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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:37pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
agaugust: Now you post like a child? First you say 120 000, and i point out that is completely wrong Then you say "no no, I meant UNITA and FNLA" I point out the number is still no where near 120 000 And now another killer blow: According to the same wiki page you posted, FNLA numbers in 1976 were only 7000 So, 60 000 + 7 000 = 67 000 So, you are still well short of your supposed 120 000 Now you say "hurr durr its impossible" Well, its not. Fact of the matter is that 20 000 (averaging only 4000 year on year) SANDF personnel stopped 150 000 Cubans and MPLA dead for 25 years in a row. We never lost a single battle. No Cuban or MPLA ever stepped foot on Namibian territory. This is a historical fact. Deal with it. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:39pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
agaugust: I dont have to. I have allready shown you one at high altitude. 42km with BB rounds is only acheivable in the Himalayas. There is no where in Africa that it can be replicated. You lose, again ![]() 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:53pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Patchesagain:won't be worth the time or effort. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 4:59pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Patchesagain:won't be worth the time or effort. Maybe next time. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 5:16pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 6:07pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
agaugust: We were 200 against approximately 3000 rebels. This is first hand information and not from newspapers. We defeated Selena on their own turf without taking to our heels like what your soldiers do. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:18pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
mzilakazi: You were "300" against 4 billion, not only 3000. "This is sparta". Good thing only you south-africans believe your own lies. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 6:32pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
I was watching Aljazeera this afternoon, and they were talking about the situation in Nigeria, they interviewed some of the Villagers where the soldiers ran aways, and the girl they interviewed there said that when the N.A soldiers came they would act all confident and fearless while guarding the Check Points, but when they heard the sound of gunfire, they just ran to their trucks and left without even checking what was going on, they left Civilians to be slaughtered. I didn't take any of those "Run away Soldiers" stories when the S.A guys mention them on this Thread, until I watched Aljazeera and they showed the actual Village, the wasn't even a single Soldier stationed there to protect the people even though there had been an attack on the Village. This is beyond disappointing 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 6:49pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Patchesagain: We have carried out multiple over-hauls on NNS Aradu on many occasions in-country. Nothing new. “According to the Review the SANDF is in a critical state of decline, is unsustainable and prime mission equipment, especially in the landward force, faces block obsolescence. “Ammunition stocks are depleted, infrastructure is falling apart, skilled staff is leaving and the arms of the various services operate in silos and are unable to manage basic procurement, which is centralised and run by the deputy director-general in the Defence Secretariat.” Nope unlike your brainless generals who have decided to chase pirates with subs, Nigeria doesn't buy, what Nigeria doesn't need. 2 long endurance ships from the U.S 2 corvettes/OPV's from china 2 additional ships from turkey and china 6 65 meters IPV's from the netherlands Additional 2 Helicopters from china. This is how you make procurements, based on the Nations needs, on a need to buy, not on a need to buy 26 jets with only 8 pilots to fly. Posting photos of 4 Augusta LUH of 30 proves absolutely nothing. Most of the SAAF’s 30-strong light helicopter fleet is grounded because of the “almost total lack of flying-hour allocation”, according to the Defenceweb site. Defenceweb writes that this “precarious financial and personnel situation” also led to the humiliation of the SAAF managing to keep its specialist maritime helicopters aloft for fewer than a dozen hours,". Again, coming here to post flight hours of your presidential fleet, which is part of the SAAF is absolute balderdash. You didn't deploy soldiers for anti-poaching ops....... ![]() ![]() http://.jacarandafm.com/post/the-sandf-and-rhino-poaching/ So, who are these guys, Opera singers? ![]() ![]()
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:32pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
lezz:There no nation called Nigeria during then. You were British colony. Do you know when your country gained independence? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:36pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
agaugust:From the same army failing to target technicals? SA artillery engagement system is advanced. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 7:40pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 7:42pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
agaugust:1. No helmets. 2. Lacking ammo. 3. No webbing. 4.Using a pick up. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 8:33pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
MikeCZAR:and there was no nation as southafrica which has never fought any real war other than in the pages of blogs and electronic media. Southafrica was an extension of anglo-dutch europe until 1994. And that's when she started existing. Sing me another song. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:42pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Patchesagain: You say that you don't have to show me, and then you say you already showed me...Contradiction. You did NOT show us any Indian Bofors artillery on top of Himalayas mountain that has slippery slope with snow....LAIR ![]() ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 8:56pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Henry120: I was among 200 strong force which defeated approximately 3000 Seleka rebels in Bangui. I travelled many places in CAR, viz, Bangassou, Bambari, Bria and many villages around Bangui enforcing security for our instructors. The most memorable spot was along the banks of Ubangi river where our sappers used to fetch water for purification and around the vicinity of university of Bangui. Not to forget the screams from the locals greeting us in sango languages with great jubilance on our way to M'poko international. The warm greeting of the sango people screaming "Balao or Bonjour" is all that is engraved on my mind to date. However, I miss my comrades who fell in CAR. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:59pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Patchesagain: .....And the same Wiki source puts the South African army at 20,000 while you cut it down to 4,000 Same source puts MPLA and Cuba at 130,000 while you pushed it up to 150,000. Then you now said 4,000 SADF defeated 150,000 MPLA and Cubans, you wiped out ALL UNITA and FLNA, then you say I am lying ? You are the liar.....4,000 Vs 150,000 Deal with it below ! [size=14pt] Patchesagain:[/size] . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 9:12pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
Centrifude: The truth comes out. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by mzilakazi(m): 10:04pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
agaugust: Firing at those woods, stones, etc is very important and always pays off. The superpowers do it most of the time. Nigerian army is failing to defeat BH whenever their strength comes to less than 300 because they lack skills that could have easily been acquired through stimulatory battle training. It gives your soldiers confidence and to know when and where they should be in any point in time during a hit up battle. It gives the technical know-how of how soldiers should position themselves in times of aerial attack and during when they request an aerial support. It gives soldiers the opportunity to learn and master how to make use of variety of weapons and to use them effectively. It boast the moral of soldiers in overall performance. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:14pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
mzilakazi: Super powers fight real wars, Afghanistan, Iraq, Falklands, Bosnia etc. All standard armies of this world fire at wood during training, even Togo Republic does it, so what's special if SANDF fires at wood in training, are you trying to impress the army of Lesotho ? Nigeria fights real wars after real training at defence academy, and periodic exercises and shooting range competitions SANDF is forever sleeping at home with wives and prostitutes that refresh their HIV viral load . . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 10:19pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
mzilakazi: You are more like a comedian by profession, your story looks like those used by Boy Alinco trying to impress Miss Pepeye .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ActivateKruger: 10:19pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
agaugust: While the Nigerian Armed forces run to the nearest border. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Centrifude(m): 10:24pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
saengine: Sh*t is messed up man, I thought Patches and the others were just screwing with them, I didn't think it was that bad. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by FighterPilot(m): 10:41pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
agaugust: American troops do stimulatory battle exercises the most part of their military career at home before they can be deployed to the battle field. No wonder Nigerian military is caused to run helter-skelter in disarray by just a ragtag Boko Haram. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:16am On Nov 17, 2014 |
agaugust: Why is a slippery slope with snow relevant? Here you go again, Bofors in the Himalaya's at over 6000 meters above sea level... the top of mount kilimanjaro is only 5,800m 4 Likes
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:19am On Nov 17, 2014 |
agaugust: I said 4000 because you first started saying that we deployed only 4000 men to the border. I quote "show us any time south africa has deployed more than 4000 men" So, well done you have just exposed your own lies!!! Hahahahah You are utterly incompetent And, all together, Russian Cuban and MPLA accounted for 140 000 men. 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:20am On Nov 17, 2014 |
agaugust: Nigeria has no major exercises or regular Battalion or Brigade training exercises 3 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:20am On Nov 17, 2014 |
agaugust: #PostingLikeA12YearOld 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:24am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Patchesagain: Your Bofors photo shows the artillery on flat ground level with grass on it, NOT on a mountain top ![]() ![]() How will artillery climb up a steep mountain slope in Himalayas, see snow all over the mountain, slippery snow ![]() ![]() Fool of Soweto ![]() ![]() . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:43am On Nov 17, 2014 |
agaugust: Why does it need to be on a mountain top? Its in a mountain range Or do you think that slippery snow makes the shell go further? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:54am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Henry120: First, no you havent. All you have done is fix it all the times you have crashed it (that is 8 times). Then Americans came to Nigeria to re-fit it for you. We didnt buy our equipment to chase pirates. We bought our equipment for military purposes. And the OPV order is about to be made. And the Valour Class is perfectly capable of anti-piracy duties, as the SAN proved where they reduced piracy in the Mozambique channel to ZERO. And submarines have frequently been deployed off Somalia on anti-piracy duties, the Chinese just sent one. Dont worry, the SAN Valour and Heroine Class will soon be coming to Nigeria to help you with your piracy problem, so you can see for yourself first hand. You see, the SANDF is geared towards defending South Africa. The Nigerian Navy cannot defend Nigeria. We have a military warfighting fleet. You do not. All our equipment is operational - as has been proven, many many times. 18 Gripen aircrew have been trained - which makes sense as 14 aircraft are fully operational. Augusta are operational - pictures and sources have been posted. You cannot avoid this point. Post a source that says that they arent - i dare you. You are the one who demands pictures. So now you have them. Also, your source is based on outdated information buddy - A109 training resumed shortly after that artical was published http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32552:a109-luh-conversion-course-resumes&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107 Feel free to post official numbers and not opinion peices about Aircraft being operational. O so the presidential fleet flew 18 000 hours? is that what you are saying now? Well, i included their numbers in the airfleet, and according to official flight hours, each aircraft in the SAAF averaged 70 flight hours per year. What do you say to that? And well done, you proved that SANDF veterinary services were involved in chipping rhino's on military land... i thought you said we deployed SF and MRAP's? Another one of your flights of fancy? You are reaching new lows Henry Now, I recommend you come with some facts, or, take your beating like a man. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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