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Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 3:23pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
chysam:Kindly go through the tithe threads for your queries. I am tired of circular arguments. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Goshen360(m): 3:25pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Bidam:No, God is MORE...God is Trinity. You disagree? 1 Like |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 3:39pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Goshen360:I disagree. God is ONE in three persons. So Abraham had to share himself into two abi? Care to explain hw you came about your two fold proposition? |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Goshen360(m): 4:12pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Bidam: So also Abraham is ONE but in 2 fatherhood - father of the JEWISH PEOPLE and father of them who are of faith. So when you asked, Bidam: Which fatherhood of Abraham are you referring to? |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 4:35pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Goshen360:No i no gree dis wuruwuru reasoning. Ishmael is of the flesh... Isaac is of the promise..both Jews and gentiles are one since the wall of hostilities is broken when Jesus died. So which one do you belong to..Ishmael or Isaac? |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by christemmbassey(m): 2:43pm On Nov 22, 2014 |
Bidam:we look up to Jesus, the author and finisherr of our faith, we are CHRISTIANS, WE ARE NOT ABRAHAMANS! 4 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by christemmbassey(m): 2:48pm On Nov 22, 2014 |
Bidam:God never told a christian to look up to Abraham! 2 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Goshen360(m): 2:59pm On Nov 22, 2014 |
Bidam:SMH literally! !! 3 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by vooks: 3:22pm On Nov 22, 2014 |
Bidam, 1. Abraham is the physical father of the Jews/Israel- Luke 16:24,30,John 8:33,39,53 2. Abraham is the spiritual father of ALL who come to Christ by faith for just as he beloved and it was accounted to him righteousness, we believe in Jesus and his righteousness is imputed on us- Gal 3:29, Rom 9:7 So a Jew can call Abraham Father and a believer can call him father. Do you now understand why you were being asked to clarify your fatherhood question? Goshen360: 2 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by christemmbassey(m): 3:28pm On Nov 22, 2014 |
vooks:Abraham is considered the father of christians ONLY IN D SENSE DAT Adam Smith is the father of economists! 2 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Goshen360(m): 12:13am On Nov 23, 2014 |
christemmbassey:...but Adam Smith had his natural or biological children. .... ***for clarification to Bidam**** 3 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 1:51am On Nov 23, 2014 |
christemmbassey:Isaiah 51:2 Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for when he was but one I called him, and I blessed him, and made him many. Does this scripture by prophet Isaiah applies to you? |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 1:54am On Nov 23, 2014 |
vooks:Good, i wanted to take them one step at a time. It is difficult for a babe to eat bones. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 1:55am On Nov 23, 2014 |
christemmbassey:Once again do you agree ABRAHAM IS YOUR FATHER? |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 2:00am On Nov 23, 2014 |
Goshen360:I already told you there is no such thing as jews and gentiles right now, the gentiles are grafted into the olive tree. Abraham was not a Jew but a gentile called of God. Is Abraham your father? |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by MarkMiwerds(m): 2:04am On Nov 23, 2014 |
Isaiah 51:2 was speaking to the children of Israel. They were to look to Abraham. We today are told to look to Christ. Hebrews 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 2:11am On Nov 23, 2014 |
MarkMiwerds:Wrong! Isaiah's prophecy was for the salvation of Zion the church. Read it again. We today are told to look to Christ..I never argued this point with you either. |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Nobody: 2:17am On Nov 23, 2014 |
^^^^ Mark, This commentary will help you in your bible study, so you will not read literally into text in a legalistic approach like goshen and christemmbassey. Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible Look unto Abraham your father,.... Not only the father of the Jewish nation, but of all them that believe: this explains what is meant by the rock, in the former verse, who is to be looked unto for imitation in the exercise of faith, and performance of duty, and for encouragement in distressed times and circumstances: http://biblehub.com/isaiah/51-2.htm |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by christemmbassey(m): 3:37am On Nov 23, 2014 |
Bidam:Sarah did NOT 'born' me(not my mother ) therefor Abraham IS NOT MY FATHER! I have natural father aka earthly father, Mr Bassey. I have God as my father who is in heaven, my creator. But for Abraham, the only thing that connects us is faith. Abraham has NOT DONE ANYTHING FOR ME, HIS FAITH IN GOD DID NOT SAVE ME, WHAT SAVED ME, IS MY FAITH IN THE SON OF GOD. Jn 3:16, 1jn 5:9-12. Remain blessed . 4 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by christemmbassey(m): 3:47am On Nov 23, 2014 |
Bidam:no sire, ABRAGAM IS NOT MY FATHER! He is not my earthly ancestor and certainly NOT MY HEAVENLY FATHER, THERE IS NO OTHER REALM TO QUALIFY HIM AS MY FATHER,. Not in heaven n not on earth. 4 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Goshen360(m): 3:53am On Nov 23, 2014 |
^ ^ ^ Leave Bidam alone to continue in his Babylon. He was quoting "look unto Abraham your father" and also scripture speaks to Christians to look unto Christ. Can one be looking unto Christ and at the same time be looking unto Abraham. I see Mark explaining to him that that verse was speaking to the national Israel which Abraham was their father. 3 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Goshen360(m): 3:57am On Nov 23, 2014 |
christemmbassey: ^ ^ ^ The above highlight truth is what Bidam refused to understand. That's why he (Abraham) was called father of THEM WHO ARE OF FAITH. I can't understand how someone like Bidam will still be reading these stuffs but still can't understand if not that they just want to argue blindly. 2 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by christemmbassey(m): 3:57am On Nov 23, 2014 |
Bidam:certainly NOT but. ''Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith........'' does, folks like you think d bible is complicated n contradictory when u blatantly refuse to rightly divide d word.... 2 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Goshen360(m): 4:08am On Nov 23, 2014 |
christemmbassey: Next time you talk to Bidam, ask him....can he be looking at his phone and at the same time be looking towards his driving path? Since he is quoting looking unto Abraham applies to Christians. SMH 3 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by christemmbassey(m): 4:14am On Nov 23, 2014 |
Goshen360:don't blame Bidam, his islamic background is his problem. You know islam is modified judaism. Again, d OT was too too beautiful dat some are like '' a bird in hand(OT) worth more than two in d bush(NT) bc d can't fathom d reality of d NT, it is 'bush' to them, so this tendency of '' make i manage d one wey i see'?. A blessed sunday to u bro! 3 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Goshen360(m): 4:21am On Nov 23, 2014 |
christemmbassey: Big brother, there's wealth of revelation in the NT I kid you know. That's why, it's an inexhaustible wealth of revelation. People haven't tapped much into it and they are digging into the OT that wasn't even meant for their application. 3 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by christemmbassey(m): 4:24am On Nov 23, 2014 |
Goshen360:and d bible says..... We are blessed WITH the faithful Abraham and DID NOT SAY ' BECAUSE OF' the faithful Abraham. What is dif for folks like Bidam to undastand here? I wonder!!! 2 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Goshen360(m): 4:31am On Nov 23, 2014 |
christemmbassey: He doesn't pay attention to tenses....which is part of good understanding. . Just like scripture says we are blessED in Christ and someone still teaching us to pay tithe in order to be bless. Or when we're deliverED through the finished works of Christ and someone teaching us to attend some mountain of fire for deliverance. Which one is better? . Like you always say, we have greater work to do in the church than outside. 2 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by christemmbassey(m): 4:41am On Nov 23, 2014 |
Goshen360:to compare OT and NT is like comparring water tank with ocean. OMG! 3 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Goshen360(m): 4:54am On Nov 23, 2014 |
christemmbassey:You have the right words to describe these things. It's like someone who came to a university (coming to Christ) to study Medicine (fullness of Christ in the NT) and he left his course of study and while enrolled in Medicine, he's studying (Linguistics) or studying Yoruba or Spanish. You can conclude what kind of argument such person will continue with those who had stayed in their course of studying. 3 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by christemmbassey(m): 4:55am On Nov 23, 2014 |
Goshen360:id bigest problem of d church today especially in Nigeria is the oga 'pastor' many are theives and some are ignorants and many are cowards, intimidated by d truth of d gospel. The day the thieves repent, the ignorants accept the knowledge and practice wisdom, the day d cowards and d fearful will haue d audacity to take God for his word, that will be they. The sheeps will follow the sherpered, they always do. 3 Likes |
Re: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by Goshen360(m): 4:59am On Nov 23, 2014 |
^ ^ ^ Can I share a verse with you before you sleep..... |
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