PastorKun:


Actually the church is liable. Churches promise their members financial prosperity if they tithe. They also promise that no devourer shall affect their finances. In the case of this man the financial prosperity promise did not materialise, his finances got devoured and the church even refused to do it's primary responsibility of bringing succour to down trodden members. I believe he has a very good case, he should go ahead and sue. Hopefully he would win the case and other tithe scammers would learn from it.

enkay4love:
Exactly!!what is misleading a lot of christians on this tithe thing is failure to read their Bibles.The admonition in Malachi 3:10 and the whole of that chapter was mainly directed at the jews or the 11 tribes of Israel who were mandated to pay a tenth of their harvest earnings(tithe)to the levitical priests(levites) who were mainly temple workers & who did'nt have any inheritance & farmlands to till & produce crops.So the curses in verse 9,were directed at these people of old(jews)and not modern day christians/believers.Jesus or His disciples never ever mentioned any where in the New testament mandating any christian to tithe.

holatin:
Sensible man spotted.
you can't help MD despite my offering, tithe and donation to your church.
if you can't give to your member, stop collecting from them

StarBoard:
asalimpo,
Who was John 1:1-4 refering to?
Abraham?

You should go and ask God for forgiveness for the sin of blasphemy. For claiming that Abraham was before Jesus.

I only wish I never wasted my precious little time arguing with a reprobate like you.

It only goes to show you are vain, empty, vacuous, fraudulent, indignant and irreverent and I shall have no parts of your ilk.

eunisam:
frustration has a way of affecting one's brain negatively.
Anyway,how much is the grand total of the tiths,donation and others. Oga you are still owning the church for the chairs,landed property and the shelters and even the prayer and preaching(sermon) you received from the church in 15 years.

nora544:


100000 liks

Why is it that nigeria has the richest pastors in the world because they brainwashed their followers, just read that Daddy go build a new school to enrich himself to build his own empire and that is with all this jetflying pastors. I know when a poor member come to a church he will not get help oh no.

I know from a woman in america she is a widow and she live from money from the state so this not much but she can pay her rent and she has food and she can pay her small bill for electricity and that she has extra money she make quilts and when she sell them she gave the little she get from this to a gready RCC pastor who take her money because he has to send every month money to Daddy go.

the next, I can remember benny hinn during a TV program an old woman had a question she has problems to pay her tite because she needs medicine for her husband, what did Benny hinn tel her she should pay the tithe and praying and fasting will help her husband please don't tell me that this is a real christian.

A real christian will help the poor the people who are in need but pentecost/charimatic superstars have lost what it means to be a real christian because they love the money more than God.

chrisviral:


God

AlfaSeltzer:
His money would be refunded as soon as he provides the receipts.

StarBoard:

Hehehehe

You should consider a career in buffoonery since I know you dont expect anyone to take you seriously.

oh so Christ never existed before Abraham abi?

I dont even know why I bothered to make any kind of an argument with a nonentity whose IQ is too low to be measured by the planck counter.

Go and sleep with your maid or lie sbout your wife because Abraham did so.

All this tomfoolery just to justify tithing.
Na wa o.

Apparently Hebrews 7 neans nothing to you either but yoir bible knowledge stops at Noah and the ark.

Abeg save your show of madness for the market. Your attempt at sounding intelligent isn't going any better thsn that of stray dogs.

I have better things to do than argue with heretics and new age believers who relegate and reduce the importance of Christ.

PastorKun:
An irate and disappointed middle aged man has demanded that his church refund his past contributions, including tithes, or else face court action.

The middle aged man claims his Accra-based church refused to assist him, in a period during which he faced extreme financial difficulties.

The disappointed man insists that his contributions to the church, which cover a period of fifteen (15) years, should have afforded him some reprieve in his time of trouble.

However, he claims the one place where he expected to find help turned a blind eye on his predicament and his pleas for help fell on deaf ears.

He has decided to move to a new church which would be more willing to assist its members but before he leaves, he says he wants the church to pay back every cedi he has ever paid into their coffers.

“I want them to pay me all the money I have given to them since I started churching [fellowshipping] with them.

His demands are not restricted to donations and collection however. The frustrated man insists that even the tithes he paid over the fifteen (15) year period should be returned to him.

“Everything. Donations, everything they should refund my money to me. The tithes I am paying is not going to God, it’s going to one particular person and that is the pastor. It is not going to God, it is going to the pastor.”

The peeved man insists that the money he paid should still be in the church coffers and that the money “can never fly”.

I want them to give me my money, he reiterated. “If they do not give me back my money, I will take them to court!”. 

Listen to the man below:
http://www.myjoyonline.com/news/2014/November-27th/return-my-tithes-or-face-court-action-man-threatens-church.php

Dailyfavour:
Is there any record to bear that claim? because evidence must be presented or case close, nevertheless, this is strange, are men tired of serving God?

asodeboyede:
UNBELIEVABLY BELIEVABLE!

Unbelievably: because it's quite strange!
Believable : because I think the man actually said it!

We must realise that when God promises us blessings in return for our tithes, such blessings transcends all what our seemingly limited human brain can
absorb! It is beyond monetary growth! Until we come to the glare and fundamental meaning of God's blessings, we would still continue to hold Him a liar! I think the said man was not taught enough or was only being rude by growing a thick skin to this TRUTH!

SEYIOKE:
payment of tithe must go with obedience and righteous christian living or else d tithe bcoms wastage

Dmeji4444:

Y r u guys getting this issue twisted,I don't think it is bad if a church help her member during trying times provided the Church have the financial stability and ability 2do so.So mayb d man saw that the church have the abilty 2do it but just don't wanna help,so what do u expect if everyone turn u down including the church.even if the Man is not frm d church,they still have 2help him, A Chistian is a Christian irrepective of d church he attends. Love ur neighbour as ur self

PastorKun:


There is nothing sacred about church tithing. Tithing as it is preached and practised today is derived from fraudulently twisting biblical tithes instructed to the Jews and mis applying it to the church. There is not one single scripture in the whole bible instructing believers to tithe money from their income. Tithing from income is derived from twisting God's word and we all know it is a sin to twist God's word.

ifeness:


I am a God,I do not need another.

Chigold101:
So in conclusion, how should tithe be paid and from what?

PastorKun:


Actually the church is liable. Churches promise their members financial prosperity if they tithe. They also promise that no devourer shall affect their finances. In the case of this man the financial prosperity promise did not materialise, his finances got devoured and the church even refused to do it's primary responsibility of bringing succour to down trodden members. I believe he has a very good case, he should go ahead and sue. Hopefully he would win the case and other tithe scammers would learn from it.

muiniz:
. Don't be naive Mr. No church promises prosperity they only read what's in the bible and am sure he read it too. Those are not the words of the pastor but God. If he wants to sue he should sue God and am sure if he stood firm with God evil wouldn't before him. The bible says obedience is better than sacrifices (tithes) 1 Samuel 15vs22. The bible also says I will punish all disobedience if your obedience is fulfilled 2 Corinthians 10vs6. If you a Muslim I will ignore you but if you a Christian please when it comes to God stuffs approach with care not because of fame on nairaland you just post and comite #Blasphemy. You where not there to know how much he requested from the Church or know the church other financial engagement. Is it everything you ask from your parents/family members you get?

PastorKun:


Tithes is not meant to be paid by christians, c0hristian giving should be as the believer decides in his heart.

Chigold101:
Thanks. But Where and Where in Bible can I find teachings that support what u just wrote? .

d3lko2i:
Can the man also return the spiritual, social and other services and benefits he got both from the Church and from God for the 15 years?

Can he pay or find a way to compensate God, the pastor and other members who voluntarily sang, cleaned the chairs he sat on, played musical instruments, visited or called him when he couldn't make it to church due to illness or any other reason, counseled him when he had issues, taught his children virtues, values and morals, and many other services and benefits for 15 years?


Was he forced to attend the church? Was he forced to make those 'donations'? Was he forced to give the freewill offerings? Was he forced to pay his tithes?

When you give to Orphanages and other non-profit organisations can you go back to demand for your donations from Charity?

The 'man' is not serious, immature and probably just acting out of frustration!

asalimpo:

the tithe pre dates the law.
Abraham and Jacob tithed,they werent under d law.

asodeboyede:


Any act of service to God is sacred and must be view as such without any form of human prejudice against whosoever deems it fit to partake in such!

Chigold101:
Thanks. But Where and Where in Bible can I find teachings that support what u just wrote? .