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Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 8:15pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
chrisviral: Not because a book said it,I said it! |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by UpLoyo: 8:17pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
PastorKun: Which law school did you graduate from? That's a no brainer, unless he gave the money under duress which he didn't. Your believing he has a case doesn't mean squat, law has no feeling. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 8:21pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
asalimpo:Do u read the Bible at all? Ur comments here are jst a reflection of ur ignorance on biblical concerns.Who told u Abraham & Jacob were not under law? Were these two(2) part of Jesus era? Pls go read ur Bible. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by chrisviral(m): 8:23pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
ifeness: Whatever rocks your boat! |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Wenom: 8:26pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
pastorkun,ur right in a way though ur presentation is nt really ok....ur right based on d fact dt many so-called men of God hv twisted d real reasons behind tithing dt is y most people pay tithes without understanding n then tend to evn b d ones dt suffer most..dz days "men of god"as dey title demselves preach based on coercion,manipulation n domination n den u see peeps giving to God for d wrong reasons n then continue to suffer n d nxt fingy dey fink christianity itself is a lie...my advice is peeps shud take tym to study d word on their own n biliv n depend on God for personal revelations instead of limiting demselves to wah d thieves dt hv com to steal,kill n to destroy say alone..as for dt man whose kirk denied him of help when he needed shud let go n let God hv His way..let God b d judge. 2 Likes |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by ICHINONYE(m): 8:28pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Some churches re so wicked, I remember wen I waz lokin 4 job,I aproached my pastor 4help,just 4him to gve my Cv out to rich pple in d church if dey can help me wit a job or help me give it out to som1 dat cud. But to my shoking belive my pastor told me I don't ned dat,he prayd 4my CV n ushered my out, am notsayn prayin on my CV wz not rite but @d same time d best he wud ve done s to help me connect d way I had wanted. D same pastor if u want 2gve thite I don't tink he wil treat u like dat dat day,God knos best. 4me I walkd out of d church n neva came back simple. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by martineverest(m): 8:29pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Dis is my first time of hearing about tithe number....nigerian churches are too desperate StarBoard: |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by hijaynation(m): 8:34pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
me nor belive all dis man of God....thats y i still say catholic is d best......tho i dont attend....what we hear in church lately is all about tithe |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by PastorKun(m): 8:35pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
UpLoyo: So you are saying it's ok for churches to obtain tithes from believers through false pretence?(A.K.A 419) it's well documented that churches make promises to church members when they are manipulating them to give tithes. Truth is that I don't expect the man to win the case but the contradictions that would come up when the churc0h is trying to defend itself in a court case would prove to many that the scriptures most churches use to justify this tithe scam are quoted out of context. 1 Like |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by veyvey: 8:36pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
This man need help if no 1 can help him at list his pastor should......put urself in his shoes. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by hijaynation(m): 8:37pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
ICHINONYE:lol dont mind those pastors dat how am sure one runed his daughter admission not thinkin of others dat av worked hard for d spot |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 8:37pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
martineverest:RCCG practices it. They give you an envelooe where you record your payment per month. your name and your tithe number is on top of the envelope.When you want to give the tithe youask the usher for your envelope before service quoting your number and they will find it for you. You will then give your tithe in a separate box during the service. Apparently it is for record purposes. Trust me that is how it's done in my parish. 1 Like |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by asalimpo(m): 9:03pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
enkay4love: dyu hav to get sarky un necessarily or ur tongue is itching with insults? Who told you they were under d law? Give ur facts . What does "Jesus era" mean? Or ar u implying that all not in the NT were under d law? Nothing cud b farther from d truth. State your facts,if you can. If ur not som1 who can reason logically and debate intelligently, just slide by.(most of u christian posters here are in these category.) Otherwise, make ur case. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by nora544: 9:04pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
StarBoard: I know that is tru and I know more about them how RCCg work it is realy that this church is only a businesscenter I know from the first time I see the face of Daddy go that he is not a real christian. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 9:08pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Dragonking: You basically just said the same thing!! It's God's duty to "deal severely" with that pastor and not his duty to sue the church! Suing the church is only gonna turn the tables to himself. God is not a forceful God. He gives people a choice and said choose either good or evil but advises you to choose good. The choice is still yours. Granted it's appalling if the pastor wouldn't help him when he can but it's still his choice to do so and if he chooses not to, God as you said will deal with him. The battle is for God and not for man. If you think speaking the truth is wickedness then you need to reevaluate your backwards thinking |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by asalimpo(m): 9:15pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
ICHINONYE: the pastor did the right thing. Problem is the words on those books you carry to church mean nothing to you. Are u not alive today? Didnt you get a job at last (though maybe not what you wanted). No wonder christianity will continue to b called a white man's religion because they are more honest with themselves. A white man will say this book says this i'll try it if it fails i'l throw it away. While we'll go to church and be doing things d worlds way. "Woe unto Him that puts his trust in the arm of flesh" (a bible verse) |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by asalimpo(m): 9:22pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
nora544: A real christian would honour God inspite of financial difficulty. It's called walking by faith and not sight. If that woman honours God God will honour her. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by ICHINONYE(m): 9:25pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Let's b honest 2our self wat my pastor dis waz so rung, n to ur info I waz stil walkng round Lagos for 3yrs + afta dat day loking 4a job dat neva came,b4 family helpd me in opening a smal busine I run til 2day. D church did notin in my time of ned n dis same church wil use so many biblical verse to tel u dat ure a thief if u don't gve thite. To b honest wit u,I left dat church n neva looked back,I erased al about d church in my memory, dis church is @ festac town lagos,its d big church oposite NEPA n Beside d market @ 22road, Church won't help u in time of trouble it only take God grace to see u tru my broda belive dat asalimpo: |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by asalimpo(m): 9:26pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
As for tithe looting pastors, the bible says Judgement shall begin from the house of God. It's not for u posters here to rain unfounded accusations on them. Leave them to God while working on removing the moat from your own eyes. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by nora544: 9:30pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
asalimpo: I know that you are a follower iof this pentecost/charismatic heresy preaching pastors, it is called prosperity gospel which is heresy there is a book you should read it and it will open your eyes because this gospel only enrich this so called Man of God because God is no money printing machine. Health, Wealth and Happiness, theologians David Jones and Russell Woodbridge characterize the doctrine as poor theology.[61] They suggest that righteousness cannot be earned and that the Bible does not promise an easy life |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Dragonking: 9:51pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
MissGdope: God will not come down from heaven to sue or deal with any fake/erring pastor or church rather he will open the eyes of men and shame the randy pastor. Ephesians 5 vs 11: Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. This simple verse simply means that we should not support wrong doings and He has given us the power to expose them e.g fake pastor or fake church. The battle is for God and God uses man to do his battles. Your statement that says that it is the choice of the church or pastor to help a member is totally wrong as I explained previously and also God will not come down to fight anyone, he uses man to do his biddings. 2 Likes |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Keluong(m): 9:56pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
lilmaxfidel:catholics are the biggest pretentious tithing sect. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by asalimpo(m): 9:57pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
ICHINONYE: oops so sad. Sorry about tht. Thank God for your family. Actually,the more i think about it, the more Jesus command to Love one another makes more sense and d more I see that theyll b less pain if christians walked in more Love. Where love simply is doing something for d betterment of anoda without hope of gain or reward to oneself. I know a christian broda who was lookin for job in choice places , talkng connections connections but it didnt materialise. He's now blaming his well placed retired uncle and all who failed him. I know this seems like i'm living in fantasy land, but if d bible isnt real and God isnt real, there's no need doing Church and christianity. And d bible clearly says we shudnt look to man for our source. It says my God shall supply all your needs acording to His riches ... If oil is selling for 10% of its value and salaries arent paid and so on how does one believe this verse? If one graduated with a poor result how does this come true? The issue is how does a christian benefit practically from the bible? Churches arent teachg this? Relatively few. Forgive the rant . Hope u get my drift. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 10:04pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Dragonking: Ok oo. I still stand my what i've said previously. If u wanna remain blind to the truth then that's ur problem cos all what u just said is weak and foolish. The battle is for God. He doesn't need men to fight his battles. This mentality is what is causing all these bloodshed in Nigeria cos pple feel they're helping God. It's madness. I have spoken! One day we shall all know the truth. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 10:04pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
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Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 10:12pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
chrisviral: Not whatever rocks my boat. That is reality! |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by asalimpo(m): 10:19pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
nora544:which gospel wud u prefer? Poverty gospel? Wat is everybody breakng their neck doing d 9 to 5 for? Isnt it for health wealth and prosperity? If anybody shud prosper who shud it be? Those tht will use the prosperity to fund terrorist or those who will use it to do more good in the earth. The christian church shud wake up and aggressively seek to know how to resources else they'll forever b irrelevant to d unbelieving world. Take tht ur book and burn it because its written by peeved bigots. Yeah, som ministers are abusing their offices but tht doesnt negate the fact tht the church has been seriously hoodwinked by d devil. On one extreme ar those who believe material gain is a sign of godliness then theyre those who believe this world's goods are evil tht poverty is godliness. Both wrong. In this world, money is power. And that's y tithing is an act of sanctifcation on all ones increase, inviting God to sanctify and bless the rest 90%. It is spiritually symbolic. In the new testamnt, Peter gave his boat to Jesus, first, tht was like an act of dedication , Jesus in turn blessed his nets. God created 7 days, then set aside a part for himself- all His. God created many nations but set aside one for Himself. Of the first born of every children a family had, one was to b set aside for God,the first born. When Jesus rose, the first born , He first went to Heaven, before He allowed any1 touch His body. How much more in money issues? |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Eziachi: 10:25pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
asodeboyede:When and how did God made this promises? I thought that his son thought that you pray for only your daily bread? How does a daily need equates to all these so called prosperities and riches or was it a question of telling greedy people what they wanted to hear and they fell for it? 3 Likes |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by nattyGENT: 10:26pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
eunisam:you sound like a co-fraudster feigned MOG... What is the essence of church, "to milk it's members dry or provide succour in time of need". No pastor's prayer without the faith of the recipient can work etc 1 Like |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by donbenie(m): 10:28pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Pastors,duping members since 1860.. 1 Like |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by donbenie(m): 10:34pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Stupidity and Religion..Bread and Butter.. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by asalimpo(m): 10:41pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
JUBILEE2000: tithe is not and will never b a fraud. First, you as an earthly citizen part with as much as 50% of your gross income to various categories of tithes and levies. And you dont call d governmnt a fraud. Yet a paltry 10% is gettg you guyz rabid! If you're going by d argumnt tht tithe is OT and as such done away with,note Jesus didnt come to abolish d law but fulfill it. E.g, the OT had laws like kill not, dont bear false witness, no graven images etc in the NT it is fulfilled as a Love commandment. In the OT, a man can ogle a woman and walk scot free ,in the NT its more stringent, dont even entertain d thought in ur heart. In the OT, an eye for an eye ,in the NT, turn d other cheek! The NT fulfillment of the OT laws are simply higher in demands. None of the OT laws just dissappeared they were replaced by higher standards. Animal sacrifice was replaced by the ont-time sacrifice of God's Son. Now, following that trend of logc , if tithe were 10% in OT, how much wud it b in NT? It wud simply be far higher. So all u arguing shud pay 50% |
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