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Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 10:47pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
asalimpo:What amuses me most about u is that, all ur comments & people's counter comments to urs, are a reflection of ur daftness & outright ignorance of the Bible. Jesus' era is the New testament era,which we(christians)his followers are basing our faith in God, on. Mathew 1:21: And he she shall bring forth a son and thou shall call his name JESUS: For he shall SAVE his people from their sins.Hebrews 7:19: For the LAW made nothing perfect,but the bringing in of a BETTER HOPE(JESUS)did;by the which we draw nigh unto God.verse 23: By so much was Jesus made a SURETY of a better testament.Verse 27: Who needeth NOT daily,as those high preists(of old) to offer up sacrifices,first for his own sins,and then for the people's:for HE did ONCE,when HE OFFERED up HIMSELF. Hebrews 8:7; For if that FIRST covenant(old testament)had been FAULTLESS,then should no PLACE have been sought for the SECOND(New Testament).Hebrews 9:1;Then verily the FIRST COVENANT had also ordinances of divine service and a WORLDLY sanctuary. EPhesians 2:8-9 For by GRACE are ye saved through FAITH; and that not of yourselves:it is the gift of God,9:Not of WORKS,lest any man should boast. Abraham was under the law,thus lived in the era of the old testament.Jesus Christ was born in the lineage of JUDA who had no bussiness with priesthood (Hebrews7:14.) It was only the Levites who were empowered to collect tithes (food,animals etc)from their brethren (Hebrews 7:5). So from the above scriptures,Jesus had nothing to do with collection of tithes becos he was'nt a Levite,and he never enforced it in the Bible. Paying of tithes with a hidden or obvious hope of amassing bountifully is covertousness which God Seriously detests,& becos God is no author of confusion,he only honours His own words and not what greedy 'SHEPHERDS twist and brainwash their flock with for selfish reasons.Ur works can't save u,only FAITH in God through Jesus, can(EPhE 2:8-9). LAST BULLET: if the One we follow(JESUS CHRIST) did'nt enforce TITHE paying,why should we pay it? That's a question for you to answer cos u're arguing like u're in the middle of a dreamland & unnecessrily displaying high level of ignorance & petty anger over an issue that's within common sense.Go & read ur Bible & stop fooling urself!! 5 Likes |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Mimipauls1(f): 11:20pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Hehehe! Even in your financial difficulties, You still have money for court case! Kai!!! There's nothing frustration wouldn't cause. But the truth be told, the church no try shaa! |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by roqrules04(m): 11:25pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
Kasala dan wear trouser ![]() |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by SeanBeezy(m): 11:26pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
d3lko2i:But the same church that taught him all these virtues and morals abandoned him! |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by NeYaB(f): 11:34pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
D man is faithless! if he is into financial problem, den he shud pray ad look up to God not d church. He has no rite to demand for wt he has given to God. Dt tithe is nt even enough for d air he breathes. Who gave him d air he breathes? He shud go on his knee ad pray for God's forgiveness. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by asalimpo(m): 11:45pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
enkay4love:you this pepper seller! See wat you scribbled. Drivel sandwiched btwn insults. For your information,the solution isnt reading d bible but rightly dividg d word of truth. Even if u want to, you cant make a decent argumnt on matters like this. Neither can catty minds like you digest a detailled argument. You'll just sweep them aside with a dismissing wave as worthless. You argue on tithes yet you dont know when the law was issued? You know nothing about the present day ministry of Jesus. You know nothing of d greater more stringent demands of the New covenant which would negate all arguments to a reduction of tax burden on christians to God's work. You hav no foundation. Yet in your uncouthness you issue cheap insults like an authority. "Wisdom is too high for a fool" go get an education and learn to be civil. Disagreeing on a point of view doesnt mean spewg insults. Now begone! |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 11:57pm On Nov 30, 2014 |
asalimpo:ur a big fooooool for resorting to insults when I hav'nt even started spitting them on u.Ur arguments are as illogical and CHEAP as ur debased mind. I thot I was even correcting a normal misguided human species,little did I know I was engaging a collosal psychiatric case.The next time u quote me,I'll come bundle u to a psychiatric home,Idiot! ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by brocab: 12:18am On Dec 01, 2014 |
I say: its a great idea, lets stand together, I have never heard it done before, the cost of tithing could be used for a great cause. One can't fight this alone without prayer-are we "not" the body of Christ. Did Jesus "not" say we come up against the principalities and against the darkness of this world. Is this "not" the argument we none tithers would agree on. A high court may open a door for God's children to "believe" the truth. Ephesians 6:13- Therefore taken the hole armour of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, put on the breastplate of righteousness, having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace, taking the shield of faith, take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; praying always with all prayer and supplication in the spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints, and for me that utterance may be given to me, that I may open my mouth boldly to make known the mystery of the Gospel. This man is "not" standing alone, He had found the truth. The truth will set you free. John 10:10-The thief does "not" come except to steal and to kill and destroy. Satan will always use his children, who "stole" monies with the tithing messages, "killing" the minds of the innocent, destroying God's children-twisting Bible verses-causing arguments within the body of Christ, men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that Godliness is a means of Gain.{Money} The body of Christ with all prayer can only stand for victory. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by gbodimowo(m): 3:03am On Dec 01, 2014 |
d3lko2i: Has a ghanian preached to you before please f fear God Na why |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by gbodimowo(m): 3:05am On Dec 01, 2014 |
brocab: Your point being? |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by bornosheikh: 3:24am On Dec 01, 2014 |
If it is better to give than to recieve, how come the Naija pastor-preneurs do not give free education, subsidised healthcare, help with accommodation etc... to their flock. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by brocab: 4:44am On Dec 01, 2014 |
A court hearing, could stop a revolution, men of corrupt minds destitute of the truth who suppose that Godliness is the means of Gain. A court hearing, could open up the truth about Christ. Millions Saved. A court hearing, could change Men and Women who are proud knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words. gbodimowo: |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 4:52am On Dec 01, 2014 |
enkay4love:You ask a fellow pertinent questions about hollow points he raised. He starts name calling and diverting the issue with needless points that have no basis. Like I said, the Bible knowledge he claims to possess does not go beyond Noah and the ark. please pay the lonely soul no attention and go about discussing with saner folk. someone who claims that Abraham was before Christ and that there would be no Christianity without Abraham (who has refused to answer what the essence of John 1:1-4 in that light thereby preaching heresy) should not be involved in discussions that normal human beings participate in. 3 Likes |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by fadolak(f): 6:08am On Dec 01, 2014 |
Up Living Faith Church. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 6:26am On Dec 01, 2014 |
2 Corinthians 9:7 Proverbs 3:9 Luke 11:42 Malachi 3:8-10 Genesis 14:20 Matthew 6:1-4 Luke 18:12 1 Corinthians 16:1-2 Deuteronomy 14:22-29 Hebrews 7:1-9 Luke 14:12-14 Deuteronomy 26:12 Leviticus 27:30-34 Numbers 18:20-24 Proverbs 19:1-29 Numbers 18:26-28 Leviticus 27:30 Acts 4:32-35 Numbers 18:21 Hebrews 7:1-28 1 Corinthians 16:2 Psalm 91:1-16 Psalm 24:1 Leviticus 27:32 John 3:1-16:33 Isaiah 1:1-31 Galatians 3:10-11 Luke 12:33 Psalm 50:7 Revelation 13:15-18 Psalm 118:19-29 John 3:16 Malachi 1:1-4:6 |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Cheny(m): 6:32am On Dec 01, 2014 |
enkay4love:Haaba! U don't need to call anyone names because he shares a different view. We as Christians are to tolerate other people's views without spewing abuses,pls control ur temper. thanks |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by d3lko2i: 7:44am On Dec 01, 2014 |
SeanBeezy: If it's true, then it's unfortunate! But there are (at least) two sides to every story, and we haven't heard the side of the church |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 7:51am On Dec 01, 2014 |
StarBoard:Thank u so much 4 ur logical input.I can't even dignify his lowly rude self with any further corrective arguments. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 8:04am On Dec 01, 2014 |
Cheny:And what gave u the audacity to jump into such nasty conclusion about me?why don't u read his earlier comments on me to realise who's actually spewing the abuses in the first place. From my comment u just reacted to with ur biased reasoning,does'nt it tell u i was reacting to the quoted comment.Its not by force to make a counter-input,if u must,read the lines carefully so u don't end up like a busy body. 1 Like |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by martineverest(m): 8:08am On Dec 01, 2014 |
What if u failed to pay for a particular month?dey ll trace u to ur home........wonderful.. StarBoard: |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Cheny(m): 8:31am On Dec 01, 2014 |
enkay4love:Please read my 2nd comment on this topic on page6 and what I said about u and on this issue.I read every single comment right from the 1st page, I saw his comments and insults even the heated debate with the other guy and I don't share his views but I was just saying we should not respond with abuses even when provoked. Please take it easy,it's an online forum. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by JUBILEE2000: 8:38am On Dec 01, 2014 |
asalimpo: If Christ has fulfilled the law why keep it? You have not answered the question i asked you earlier; why do you pick areas of the law that has to do with finances(Tithes, firstfruits etc) and leave the rest. we need to repent from this hypocrisy and teach the right doctrines. Dont worry, God is raising an army that will chase out money changers from the church and restore the glory of the church. Some of the preachers we have today are really making the love of many to wax cold. Their god is indeed their belly. There is nothing wrong with giving to the course of the gospel but the brethren MUST not be manipulated to do so, they should not be threatened to do so! Its sad that most of these preachers now compete with each other on who appears on national TV stations more (using ur tithes n offerings) while there are many reomte areas in the core North that the gospel is yet to get to, many people are deep neck into idolatry without Christ yet they are here in the cities competing for space and the available warehouses for church services. When giving is not for evangelism and charity count me out 3 Likes |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 8:41am On Dec 01, 2014 |
Cheny:Ern...no thanks.Has'nt he realised this is an online forum b4 he commenced his baseless & rude arguments? Ur advice to my comment is biased & unnecessary,cos if u actually perused through all the comments from the start to finish,u'll realise where my reactive comment was coming from.So becos am a christian I should swallow his abuses just like that? Is he not a christian too ,who's busy spitting insults on any member here, with an opposing view to his? Pls,direct ur advice to him cos he desperately needs it.Thanks! |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 8:47am On Dec 01, 2014 |
JUBILEE2000:Even with all these sane & Bible-based facts u've raised,he'll still be arguing senselessly like a fool. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by JUBILEE2000: 8:51am On Dec 01, 2014 |
StarBoard: My heart bleeds at the bolded above..May God not allow the gates of MAMMON prevail aginst his church. 1 Like |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 8:54am On Dec 01, 2014 |
martineverest:The church has your details. Phone number and house address. Visitation group comes to ascertain your address once a year. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 9:00am On Dec 01, 2014 |
JUBILEE2000:Sad but true. I stopped attending RCCG when they started broadcasting people's names on their projector screen in line with tithe records. They did so to someone I know simply because they wanted to clarify the figure on the cheque in the said envelope for a particular month simply because it differed from what she usually gave. But when this same lady had earlier undergone a surgery no one asked any questions or showed sympathy. Just collecting tithe from people without taking any concerted effort to know the givers. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Originalsly: 9:00am On Dec 01, 2014 |
Win or lose...he should take the pastor to court and expose him. Why can't the church help one of its own that has come pleading for assistance? If the Bible is being quoted to collect tithes then the very Bible must also be quoted for the use of the tithes. Wasn't one of the uses to help the poor and downtrodden? The fraudster/pastor should be taken to court for embezzlement. |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 9:05am On Dec 01, 2014 |
enkay4love:Read through the thread and see how people are reacting to him. My people say that if people are pointing at you and covering their noses while you are on your way to the market, you need to step into the bush and examine if the smell is coming from your trousers. Have a great day. 1 Like |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Nobody: 9:07am On Dec 01, 2014 |
JUBILEE2000:But the fellow tells us that without Abraham there would be no Christ. He implies that Abraham existed before Jesus even though John 1:1-4 tells us Christ existed before every other thing. Why bother argue with a heretic? |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Bowaley17(m): 9:10am On Dec 01, 2014 |
Abeg run go collect ur money my guy...d pastor dey wicked o...cant even help d man in times of trouble...whats d essence of attending d church self... |
Re: Man Asks Church To Return His Tithes Or Face Court Action by Cheny(m): 9:16am On Dec 01, 2014 |
StarBoard:What matters to the d 21st century church most (ie Money ),mattered little to the early church.Rmber Paul's warning that wolves have crept into the church. |
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