honourhim:


Sorry i didnt say god is real. I dont know god and whether he is real or not. I only know God and he is real.

LOL.

UyiIredia:


Go and read the article I referred you to earlier.

I have... can you tell me what any of it has to do with artificial codes...
Here is an extract;
"The genetic code is the set of rules by which information encoded
within genetic material ( DNA or mRNA sequences) is translated into
proteins by living cells . Biological decoding is accomplished by the
ribosome , which links amino acids in an order specified by mRNA,
using transfer RNA (tRNA) molecules to carry amino acids and to
read the mRNA three nucleotides at a time."

What part of this process can you verify to be from a mind?

The picture below is a segment of a DNA molecule...can you identify the "code" within it?

davien:
I have... can you tell me what any of it has to do with artificial codes...
Here is an extract;
"The genetic code is the set of rules by which information encoded
within genetic material ( DNA or mRNA sequences) is translated into
proteins by living cells . Biological decoding is accomplished by the
ribosome , which links amino acids in an order specified by mRNA,
using transfer RNA (tRNA) molecules to carry amino acids and to
read the mRNA three nucleotides at a time."

What part of this process can you verify to be from a mind?

The picture below is a segment of a DNA molecule...can you identify the "code" within it?

The arrangement of nucleotides in the DNA helix is what makes up the code. The extract you posted details how decoding of the genetic code is done and it is certainly a process God made. That said, if you want to still evade the argument by arguing whether the DNA has a code I should question your intelligence. Because that is a well-established fact.

UyiIredia:


The arrangement of nucleotides in the DNA helix is what makes up the code. The extract you posted details how decoding of the genetic code is done and it is certainly a process God made. That said, if you want to still evade the argument by arguing whether the DNA has a code I should question your intelligence. Because that is a well-established fact.

You have to first prove that a "god" exists,before labelling how the genetic code operates as a handiwork of "god"...
You can question my intelligence all day...DNA is a molecule....that under certain conditions,operates as a biological code....that's it..

Back in the days it was Huxley and Mazaje. Now its kay17. manfrommars aka muskeeto and xcapist.

UyiIredia:


The extract you posted details how decoding of the genetic code is done and it is certainly a process God made .

Oh mi gosh !

UyiIredia:

That said, if you want to still evade the argument by arguing whether the DNA has a code I should question your intelligence.

Wow!

UyiIredia:

Because that is a well-established fact.

Wow wow!


Hhhmmm.

Everybody is entitled to believe whatever he or she want to believe. However shoving that belief down my throat becomes a problem. Rarely do I see atheist shove the beliefs down my throat! But christians and moslems on the other hand, especially christians is annoying!.

People who can't obey the very rules that guide them, yet they come and tell you you're going to hell just for not believing in their own brand of poison.

joseph1832:
Everybody is entitled to believe whatever he or she want to believe. However shoving that belief down my throat becomes a problem. Rarely do I see atheist shove the beliefs down my throat! But christians and moslems on the other hand, especially christians is annoying!.

People who can't obey the very rules that guide them, yet they come and tell you you're going to hell just for not believing in their own brand of poison.

Nobody is forcing you to believe. You can't also force us to preach the way you want it..

honourhim:


Nobody is forcing you to believe. You can't also force us to preach the way you want it..

You also can't force us to believe the way you want it.

davien:
You have to first prove that a "god" exists,before labelling how the genetic code operates as a handiwork of "god"...
You can question my intelligence all day...DNA is a molecule....that under certain conditions,operates as a biological code....that's it..

Actually, DNA has a code. I have already referred you to an article that cements this point. You are yet to rebut my argument, instead you argue over the fact that DNA has a code. Which is the silliest argument I have ever encountered.

joseph1832:
You also can't force us to believe the way you want it.

So why were you making noise? You just want to talk.

You don't believe in God, but you spend 80% of your time on nairaland here in the religion section arguing on what you don't believe.

smh

honourhim:


So why were you making noise? You just want to talk.

The same applies to you. Should have thought of that before you post here.

honourhim:


Sorry i didnt say god is real. I dont know god and whether he is real or not. I only know God and he is real.

Lol! Why are you people taking this capital "G" seriously? Is god now an English teacher or did he told you to use capital G when referring to him? Any religion can decide to use capital "G" to represent their god(s), it doesn't makes it real. What did god told Christians who only understand Chinese, Arabic or Hindu scripts? All these little things point out to the fact that religion is formed and controlled by man.

In the English language , the capitalized form of God continues to represent a distinction
between monotheistic "God" and "gods" in
polytheism. [20][21] The English word God and
its counterparts in other languages are normally
used for any and all conceptions and, in spite of
significant differences between religions, the
term remains an English translation common to
all. The same holds for Hebrew El , but in
Judaism , God is also given a proper name, the
tetragrammaton YHWH, in origin the name of an
Edomite or Midianite deity, Yahweh . In many
translations of the Bible, when the word LORD is
in all capitals, it signifies that the word
represents the tetragrammaton. [22] Allāh
( Arabic : ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ) is the Arabic term with no plural
used by Muslims and Arabic speaking
Christians and Jews meaning "The God" (with a
capital G), while " ʾilāh " ( Arabic : ﺇﻟﻪ ) is the term
used for a deity or a god in general. [23][24][25]
God may also be given a proper name in
monotheistic currents of Hinduism which
emphasize the personal nature of God, with
early references to his name as Krishna -
Vasudeva in Bhagavata or later Vishnu and Hari .
[26] http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God

jmoore:
You don't believe in God, but you spend 80% of your time on nairaland here in the religion section arguing on what you don't believe.

smh

We should keep quiet, You would love that won't you? Reminds me of this post made by Davien not to long ago.

davien:
Sure....just keep quite while theists grow strength in numbers and then start enforcing "god's law" and other laws that permit them.....
keeping quite is the worst thing to do in a nation ruled by dogma.

Imagine if galileo kept quite while the "flat earthers" spreaded their pseudoscience.
Imagine if louis pasteur kept quite while people claimed "demons" and "bad blood" for the causes of diseases.
Imagine if einstein kept quite while people believed space and time were abstract entities.
Imagine if abraham lincoln kept quite and said nothing about slavery.
Getting out there and chatting,debating...even holding meetings is a positive step towards any progress..
we can't fly planes into towers..nor hold killing crusades but we can present our voices...and that is our strength and right.
Better to speak now,before keeping quite turns nigeria into a dictatorship.

And this by plaetton

plaetton:


For the millionth time, atheism is not a goal, and does not have goals worth succeeding in.
It is simply an individual choice to reject the idea of god.
Education, enlightenment and economic empowerment are the reasons most people begin to reject stone-age ideas and ideals.

Poorer countries are densely religious because because poorer countries are densely less enlightened, less educated, less technologically advanced, and have less freedoms and a lot more social anxieties and unrest.
Have you noticed that, sir?

Atheism is not a competing philosophy that challenges religion.
No.
Atheism is the rejection of the unproven idea of god.

Your job is to show that your god exists, not to challenge those who reject it because you have not proven it.

It is 100% inevitable that more people, your children and grand children will relegate your god and your religion to the dustbins historical myths, just like Zeus, Apollo and the rest of histories dead and forgotten gods.
And humanity will be better for it.

joseph1832:
The same applies to you. Should have thought of that before you post here.

You don't believe in God. What are you doing in religion section? When did atheism become a religion? Quite a shame.

Idrismusty97:
Lol! Why are you people taking this capital "G" seriously? Is god now an English teacher or did he told you to use capital G when referring to him? Any religion can decide to use capital "G" to represent their god(s), it doesn't makes it real. What did god told Christians who only understand Chinese, Arabic or Hindu scripts? All these little things point out to the fact that religion is formed and controlled by man.

You are talking about God in the bible then write his name as written in the english bible or hebrew. Whichever one you choose. If you want igbo or yoruba pls write as written in their bible translations.

Do you write your name beginning with a small letter?

Atheist world over, how I love how articulate y'all present your arguments, I can't say...Kudos...

Idrismusty97:
We should keep quiet, You would love that won't you? Reminds me of this post made by Davien not to long ago.
And this by plaetton

Yes, you should keep quiet on issues you know nothing about.

About your quote on Galileo speaking out about the earth not being flat. Galileo lived as a Christian and a scientist, what does that tell you? smh.

honourhim:


You are talking about God in the bible then write his name as written in the english bible or hebrew. Whichever one you choose. If you want igbo or yoruba pls write as written in their bible translations.

Do you write your name beginning with a small letter?

Like the Wikipedia article i posted said, monotheistic religion used "God", polytheistic religions used "gods". That means the word God(Without "s" ) can never be written in small letter because it is a name. So when you referred to the Muslim God you must used the capital "G" also...But Christians make it seems as if the capital "G" make their god(s) bigger. I went to a Catholic school and they are very strict specially in that aspect. If you want to refer to your God you may use Yahweh, Jehovah just like the Muslims used Allah. Using a capital "G" is a very poor way of differentiating your God from others.

jmoore:

Yes, you should keep quiet on issues you know nothing about.

About your quote on Galileo speaking out about the earth not being flat. Galileo lived as a Christian and a scientist, what does that tell you? smh.

But he was condemned by the Catholic Church for "vehement suspicion of heresy". At that time heresy could lead to death penalty. Besides since you saw the quote on Galileo you must have seen everything written up there. What do you say about that? Or you are just doing the selective reading as usual.

Idrismusty97:
But he was condemned by the Catholic Church for "vehement suspicion of heresy". At that time heresy could lead to death penalty. Besides since you saw the quote on Galileo you must have seen everything written up there. What do you say about that? Or you are just doing the selective reading as usual.

Is Catholic church God? Did Galileo reject christianity?
smh

Idrismusty97:
Like the Wikipedia article i posted said, monotheistic religion used "God", polytheistic religions used "gods". That means the word God(Without "s" ) can never be written in small letter because it is a name. So when you referred to the Muslim God you must used the capital "G" also...But Christians make it seems as if the capital "G" make their god(s) bigger. I went to a Catholic school and they are very strict specially in that aspect. If you want to refer to your God you may use Yahweh, Jehovah just like the Muslims used Allah. Using a capital "G" is a very poor way of differentiating your God from others.

Pls don't tell me about wikipedia because you only choose what suits you in wikipedia.

I said here that you can use any of God's name for me(any dialect) but when you want to use english then it has to be God as used in the bible and not god. Is this hard for you to understand?

honourhim:


Pls don't tell me about wikipedia because you only choose what suits you in wikipedia.

I said here that you can use any of God's name for me(any dialect) but when you want to use english then it has to be God as used in the bible and not god. Is this hard for you to understand?

You are right about the English part, i am also saying all monotheistic religions like yazidism, Judaism, islam etc or any religions that only worshipped one God can also use the capital "G" to refer to their gods in English. It's just language and nothing special about it.

Idrismusty97:
You are right about the English part, i am also saying all monotheistic religions like yazidism, Judaism, islam etc or any religions that only worshipped one God can also use the capital "G" to refer to their gods in English. It's just language and nothing special about it.

My dear I don't care whether others use it or not. My own is this- when discussing God with us pls use capital G as used in the bible. It matters to us. Thanks.

jmoore:

Is Catholic church God? Did Galileo reject christianity?
smh

Again you ignore the whole point to speak on Galileo..."Your job is to show that your god exists, not to challenge those who reject it because you have not proven it." The main point of those two quotes is to tell you that keeping quiet is the worst thing to do. And that is exactly what religion wants you to do while they spread their doctrines, that's why wr have words like "Apostasy" and "Blasphemy". You are the loudest to speak ill of other religions but want others to keep quiet when it comes to yours? Who cares if he reject Christianity or not, the main point is that he challenge the scriptures and ask critical questions which is what religious people are afraid to do. Religion put you in a box, and anyone who thinks outside that box is condemned.

And what does the Catholic church represent? Who do they claim they speak for?

Idrismusty97:
Again you ignore the whole point to speak on Galileo..."Your job is to show that your god exists, not to challenge those who reject it because you have not proven it."

You atheists are spiritually blind by choice so it can't be proven to you.

The main point of those two quotes is to tell you that keeping quiet is the worst thing to do. And that is exactly what religion wants you to do while they spread their doctrines, that's why wr have words like "Apostasy" and "Blasphemy". You are the loudest to speak ill of other religions but want others to keep quiet when it comes to yours?

You should only speak out if you are sure of what you are saying.

Who cares if he reject Christianity or not, the main point is that he challenge the scriptures and ask critical questions which is what religious people are afraid to do. Religion put you in a box, and anyone who thinks outside that box is condemned.

Galileo never challenged the scriptures, he challenged the Catholic church not the bible. I am sure you would have added him as one of your disciples if he was an atheist.
Quotes by Galieo
1- "Two truths cannot contradict one another". [He knew science does not contradicts the bible, neither does the bible contradicts science]

2- "For the holy Bible and the phenomena of nature proceed alike from the divine Word, the former as the dictate of the Holy Ghost and the latter as the observant executrix of God's commands. It is necessary for the Bible, in order to be accommodated to the understanding of every man, to speak many things which appear to differ from the absolute truth so far as the bare meaning of the words is concerned. But Nature, on the other hand, is inexorable and immutable; she never transgresses the laws imposed upon her, or cares a whit whether her abstruse reasons and methods of operation are understandable to men. For that reason it appears that nothing physical which sense-experience sets before our eyes, or which necessary demonstrations prove to us, ought to be called in question (much less condemned) upon the testimony of biblical passages which may have some different meaning beneath their words"

And what does the Catholic church represent? Who do they claim they speak for?

The bible is the mouthpiece of Christianity. The Catholic church of then was ignorant not to have noticed what was written in the bible as shown below.

Many a skeptic claims that the Bible depicts a flat earth. Scriptural references such as Revelation 7:1 are cited, which speaks of “four angels standing at the four corners of the earth.” However, this passage makes reference to the cardinal directions as seen on a compass – i.e. north, south, east and west. Terminology to a similar effect is used today when we speak of the sun rising and setting each day, even though we know that it is, in fact, the earth which orbits around the sun.

Another passage often referred to is Psalm 75:3, which speaks of God holding the pillars firm. However, the psalms are written in the poetry genre. Rather than referring to literal pillars, this is representative of God’s guaranteeing the earth’s stability. Even when the moral order of the world seems to have crumbled, God will not fully withdraw His sustaining power.

In contrast to the supposed “flat earth” verses, there are numerous Scriptures that clearly indicate otherwise. The earth is described in Job 26:7 as being suspended over empty space, implying a spherical figure. This notion is further entertained in Isaiah 40:21-22, which refers to “the circle of the earth.” This is further supported by Proverbs 8:27 (NKJV), which speaks of God drawing a circle on the face of the deep. From a “bird’s-eye view” of the ocean, the horizon is seen as a circle. Such an observation indicates that where light terminates, darkness begins, describing the reality of day and night on a spherical earth.

The round-earth idea is further supported by Jesus in Luke 17:31,34: “In that day, he who is on the housetop, and his goods are in the house, let him not come down to take them away. And likewise the one who is in the field, let him not turn back...I tell you, in that night there will be two people in one bed: the one will be taken and the other will be left.” This would seem to indicate the phenomenon of day on one side of the globe while darkness abides on the other.

In conclusion, the curvature of the earth is certainly a biblical concept, and there is little or no basis for the charge that the Bible teaches a flat earth. The Scriptures that seem to present a flat earth can all easily be explained when correctly interpreted and understood
Source>> http://www.gotquestions.org/flat-earth-Bible.html

No need for further replies. I don't like wasting time.

honourhim:


You don't believe in God. What are you doing in religion section? When did atheism become a religion? Quite a shame.

I never said I don't believe in God Judas! You only assumed. Anyway I am not surprised because that's what some christians do, once you don't share their brand of christianity they see you as an atheist.

UyiIredia:


Actually, DNA has a code. I have already referred you to an article that cements this point. You are yet to rebut my argument, instead you argue over the fact that DNA has a code. Which is the silliest argument I have ever encountered.

Do you have flint for eyes?...There is a difference between "DNA has a code" and "DNA operates like a biological code"...
What I am rebutting is your insistence that the biological code is from "god" which you are yet to prove...

I don't equate a "code" to a "biological code"...because though they are used interchangeably to portray DNA's function...it has been misunderstood as though the chemicals themselves are "codes" and not molecules with biochemical potential that act as one...do you understand?

davien:
Do you have flint for eyes?...There is a difference between "DNA has a code" and "DNA operates like a biological code"...
What I am rebutting is your insistence that the biological code is from "god" which you are yet to prove...

I don't equate a "code" to a "biological code"...because though they are used interchangeably to portray DNA's function...it has been misunderstood as though the chemicals themselves are "codes" and not molecules with biochemical potential that act as one...do you understand?

Actually, the chemicals are codes. In any case, what specifically are you rebutting in my argument. It sint enough to claim you are rebutting my argument my code is from God when so far you've done nothing of that sort. Go back to my initial argument I presented and do your 'rebutting' there.

UyiIredia:


Actually, the chemicals are codes. In any case, what specifically are you rebutting in my argument. It sint enough to claim you are rebutting my argument my code is from God when so far you've done nothing of that sort. Go back to my initial argument I presented and do your 'rebutting' there.

Am I to disprove that which is merely asserted as a fact,prove that the "code" is indeed from a "god"...

davien:
Am I to disprove that which is merely asserted as a fact,prove that the "code" is indeed from a "god"...

I have given a proof to back it up. Feel dree to go through my previous posts for it. Have you forgotten hoq we ended up talking about codes ?