agaugust:


6 years ago display. Bwahaahaha
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What so we magically lost Gripen pilots from 2008?

MikeCZAR:
Nigeria doesn't even have a single war fighting ship right now, what chance do you stand?

Yes, that's why they can't detect diesel engine submarines. The Gotland class sunk their vessels many times, SAN Heroine class subs sunk their vessels couple of times.

Nigeria has ZERO enemies at sea, the only threat is piracy and we wisely purchased over 300 mixed types of IPV, MPV, and OPV including over 60 Stealth combat Catamarans that no country has in Africa.

Nigerian navy has one of the most modern and largest sized patrol force in the whole world, equal to any NATO country including America, Britain and Russia.

We invested over $2 Billion on those patrol vessels instead of buying 3 submarines and 3 missile frigates with the same amount of money. Wisdom of the giant !

By 2015-2018 Nigerian navy master plan shows purchase of 4 missile warships and submarines. Foresight of the giant !

After realizing that submarines and frigates cannot do OPV workloads, South African navy is dreaming of buying OPVs in 2018. Foolishness of the dwarf !
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EVarn:
hmm hmm....though a threat aint gonna warn you before it rear its face,ask nigeria.better to be prepared than to wait to for nasty surprises.

I understand but whos going to sneaky F'ck us Namibia,Mozambique we can destroy them with our maritime police dont even need our military, just like how we sent our SAPs in to calm Lesotho's military when they attempted a coup earlier this year , as for Nigeria, you guys have no bigger threat than we do either.The only real threat to both of us might be Angola but only way in the future.

jln115:

Dont know what to say to you anymore really.

Those are photo shop images. No official proof of two seater JF-17 from Pakistan. The version is still being decided, to build or not to build. Pakis say a very experienced F-7PG pilot only needs JF-17 simulator training to fly the real jet.

I have a PhotoShop of two seater and the wings are totally different from the ones you posted, so who is building different versions of the same trainer jet when there is no known buyer for trainers yet?
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jln115:

What so we magically lost Gripen pilots from 2008?

Oh yes !
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agaugust:


Nigeria has ZERO enemies at sea, the only threat is piracy and we wisely purchased over 300 mixed types of IPV, MPV, and OPV including over 60 Stealth combat Catamarans that no country has in Africa.

Nigerian navy has one of the most modern and largest sized patrol force in the whole world, equal to any NATO country including America, Britain and Russia.

We invested over $2 Billion on those patrol vessels instead of buying 3 submarines and 3 missile frigates with the same amount of money. Wisdom of the giant !

By 2015-2018 Nigerian navy master plan shows purchase of 4 missile warships and submarines. Foresight of the giant !

After realizing that submarines and frigates cannot do OPV workloads, South African navy is dreaming of buying OPVs in 2018. Foolishness of the dwarf !
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Citation needed to prove all those purchases of 300+ patrol boats especially those 60 catamarans.You are right about the fact that frigates cannot do OPV duties, SAN should have ordered OPVs years ago, that being said the SAN will acquire OPVs in the next 4 years better late than never, and yes i do believe NN has more patrol boats(numbers you posted are debatable) than SAN, their are alot more piracy actvaties in your waters(Meaning Nigerian and adjacent countries waters) than ours(actually 0 in our waters since we started patrolling in Mozambique) and its our duty as the superpowers of Africa to keepSouthern and West African shipping routes safe from piracy, As for East Africa? not our problem.

agaugust:


Oh yes !
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Guessing those 2 seater JF-17s are also the act of magic hey?

jln115:


Citation needed to prove all those purchases of 300+ patrol boats especially those 60 catamarans

Same question @Patches asked when he joined this forum, I answered him. I will NOT repeat it for you, use your own time and find them on pages 150 to 350 of this thread.

You guys talk as if you pay me dollars to be searching through old archives of 1,000 pages just to please you.

You all just over-value yourselves, you are not worth it. Type it on google search engine or go back to old posts on this thread and find it page by page, I am not your servant
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agaugust:


Oh yes !
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I just want to apologize to you Agustine you are right those photo's are photoshopped i failed to read the links, but there are prototypes of 2 seater JF-17 which have been fully developed and tested and will go in to production.

"With an urgent need to export JF-17s, a two-seater will be built in the Block 2 time frame. The PAF had always said that a two-seater is not urgent, but Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt now admits that a dual seater is a necessity. "We realise that it is required, because the air forces interested in buying JF-17 want one," he said."


www.janes.com/article/40105/first-block-2-jf-17s-under-construction-in-pakistan.

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agaugust:


Same question @Patches asked when he joined this forum, I answered him. I will NOT repeat it for you, use your own time and find them on pages 150 to 350 of this thread.

You guys talk as if you pay me dollars to be searching through old archives of 1,000 pages just to please you.

You all just over-value yourselves, you are not worth it. Type it on google search engine or go back to old posts on this thread and find it page by page, I am not your servant
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I have, cant find anything except for the patrol boats you brought from us and the patrol boats gifted to you by the NPA(Nigerian Ports Authority) and your own navy website states nothing of the sort.

jln115:

I understand but whos going to sneaky F'ck us Namibia,Mozambique we can destroy them with our maritime police dont even need our military, just like how we sent our SAPs in to calm Lesotho's military when they attempted a coup earlier this year , as for Nigeria, you guys have no bigger threat than we do either.The only real threat to both of us might be Angola but only way in the future.

angola will be more of a threat to SA than nigeria due to its close proximity.i've realized that it positively serves national interest for a country to make a few {powerful} enemies.

EVarn:
and you gonna fight a naval battle with most of your warships in repairs or grounded?,not forgetting that you now have only one functioning submarine with an half charged battery.

1-to-3 rule applies to every navy in the world

2 subs are fully operational, 3rd is undergoing (or completing) sea trials

agaugust:


May we also begin to claim all the new ships in Nigerian navy master plan?

Scorpion jet ISR endurance time airborne 300 minutes

Gripen jet Recce Only, enducance time airborne 45 minutes

Old fashioned Gripen of 1998
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and how do you come to the conclusion that the Gripen only has a 45min loiter time?

jln115:
11 Saaf Gripen pilots in these photos, if you look carefully you will see their are 7males in the first photo 2 different males and 1female in the second photo and 2 Females in the last photo: thus 7+3+1(1 female already accounted for), hopefully this argument about saaf only having 8 pilots is know settled.

Sorry about the 1st pic link didnt want to work.

Looks more like the Irish air force to me.........

agaugust:


South African navy chief of staff CANNOT navigate a boat on the river, he has NO shipping training or certificate

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Nigerian sailors cannot swim

Which is worse, as our SAN Cheif of Staff isnt in danger of having to navigate anything other than bureaucracy

agaugust:


South African submarine was in refit for 7 years just change battery 2007 to 2014.

LST carries anything from heavy armoured vehicles, food, to fuel, it has cargo space for any cargo.

China is transferring one combat ship to Nigerian navy officially announced and posted here many times .

JF-17 Thunder is a done deal.

Nigerian navy is the biggest threat to South African navy in Sub Saharan Africa
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South Africa had two other subs in the water at that time, nigeria has no SSM armed vessels in the water

LST is not a maritime supply vessel (so no force projection for you)

No China is not

JF-17 is not either

Nigerian Navy is only a threat to its own vessels

agaugust:


I said you have a potential buyer that has not paid you one dollar yet, and your source above confirms only paper work signed, not payment for the paltry insignificant 50 units of an over-priced Mbombe
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#ShiftingTheGoalPosts

How many people have bought the half south african igirir?

agaugust:


We need to replace the F-7 jet

Mi-35 Hind can drop PGMs

We are buyng JF-17, Su-30, and for COIN we might mix Tucano + Scorpion + FrogFoot

NAF will be 10 times better in aircraft mix and diversified capabilities than SAAF....your ranking is dropping below Uganda now!
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You dont need to replace the F-7

YOUR Mi-35 CANNOT - confirmed by your Airforce Cheif

You havent bought the JF-17 yet
You arent buying the Su30
You arent buying the Tucano
You might get the scorpion (unless blocked by US)
You arent getting the Su-25

Maybe in your 12 year old mind SAAF is dropping, but in reality, in the cold hard facts, SAAF is well ahead of Nigeria

agaugust:


Your submarines are obsolescent, new version is already out in the market, Egypt is likely buying that.

South Afrcan weapons are mostly dated 1990s technology and fast becoming obsolete by now 2014.

Nigeria and Algeria are buying the most modern weapons in Africa 2014-2015
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- emotional post

Nigeria isnt buying a warship, its buying a gunboat

agaugust:


Your submarines are obsolescent, new version is already out in the market, Egypt is likely buying that.

South Afrcan weapons are mostly dated 1990s technology and fast becoming obsolete by now 2014.

Nigeria and Algeria are buying the most modern weapons in Africa 2014-2015
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- emotional post

Nigeria is buying a gunboat, not a warship

agaugust:


LOL, Saudi Arabia is buying a 3rd generation aircraft after buying 4.5th generation Eurofighter Typhoon. LOL.

I like your comedy, execpt that it degrades your public image here. LOL. Keep it up

Except Saudi is not buying the JF-17

They were looking at the JF-17 in the beginning of the year

Then in June/July they bought the Eurofighter instead

Clown

agaugust:


NN, NAF, NA are all being rebuilt with billions of dollars, that is public information known world wide. Give them another 12 months and see wonder.

SAN submarine played war game with 1970-1980s NATO ships including oil tankers, only one ship was modern in the NATO fleet.

NATO also fooled South Africa by refusing to use any of their latest anti-submarine helicopters in that war game.

Next you didn't know that real modern NATO ships have anti-torpedo decoys and if you fire torpedoes at them they will counter it, waste your torpedoes, discover your submarine position and decend on you with anti-submarine helicopters to sink your submarine.

You think NATO is a fool? NATO is built to fight mighty Russia not South Africa....fool
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Can you prove a single word of the above?

I will not bother destroying you until you post something to substantiate this

Until then it is simply the post of a man who cannot contain his jealousy

agaugust:


I have repeated full analysis of that NATO Vs SAN war game more than 5 times here on this forum I won't go back to search my 6,000 posts for every new South African that joins this forum, so you too spend your time to search the archives, google @agaugust NATO old ships vs South Africa nairaland, then sift through the search results spending your own time not mine
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No you have never

You posted a list of assumptions and ramblings, without any substantiation

and expected us to take you seriously

We dont

So, lets do this, post away clown

SAN Submarine fleet aka: NATO Busters

jln115:

Bae land systems or OMC before the name change is subsidiary of Bae group which is british but Bae land systems itself is a South African company, it will be merged/bought by Denel, dus it will still be a South African company with a 100% South African Parent.

As for the Toyota thing i might have over exaggerated abit but all the the Cressida, Corolla, Yaris, Auris, HiAce, Hilux and an assortment of Hino Truck models sold in the Southern Hemisphere are built in South Africa

"BAE Systems Land Systems South Africa is a subsidiary of BAE Systems Land Systems, itself part of BAE Systems Land and Armaments. BAE owns 75% of the company, DGD Technologies owns the remaining 25%."

BAE owns 75% of the company, nothing South-African there.

patches689:


OK.

so lets get this straight

No Bombing = ISIS winning, about to capture the town

Bombing = stalemate, Kurds are able to hold the town

Bombing stopped ISIS dead in its tracks, indisputable fact.

Bombing will not push ISIS back, that job falls on the Kurds.

If you think bombing is some magical thing that makes armies retreat and wins battles so the infantry can do nothing, you are a clown

Bombing any group which has no way to reply back would stop that group right in their tracks (military or militant). This isn't rocket science.

300+ bombings on a single town would should decimate the enemy, except if all the claims of operations fighter(s) can perform are exaggerated ( F/A18 U.S & australia / F-15E Saudi , F-16E UAE) or, you're just not using the right CAS assets.

Bombing a small town for 3 months, yet the jihadist are still dug in, that's a failure.

patches689:


O look, henry120 is suffering another breakdown

Predictable.

Dummy.

patches689:


Because the SANDF has spent the last two years studying the needs of the navy and the requirements the vessels will need as well as how to best aquire them and stimulate the economy

No the project has entered the aquisition stage with deadlines for next year june

We are not like nigeria, we do not do panic buys

Do tell us what Nigeria has panic bought?

MduZA:


big thanks to South Africa for helping Nigeria set her automotive industry....

Sharap.

Big thanks to the Nigerian Auto-Industry, the National Automotive plan, and the Nigerian industrial revolution plan.

We currently have over 23 different car assemblers and car component manufactures.

Innoson
PAN
Steyr group
Leyland
NAT,

All have absolutely nothing to do with South-Africa.

Innoson Hatch back, incorporates 70% local car components, same as Innoson taxi.

patches689:


Valour Class holds the title of the first stealth ship in africa

P18N ships are the only stealth ships in Africa.

F-91, NNS Centenary
F-92 NNS Unity

patches689:


We also build armoured boats for oil companies

Clown

No you don't, but we do, and have many facilities at Onne FTZ.