agaugust:


Yes it existed since the 1970s
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Yes, the ship doesn't have to get a lock on to its target.

mzilakazi:



Stop making a mockery of yourself. Jeez, I wonder what kind of mortar is that. Bwahahahaha.....

That's a Light weight mortar. It is very easy to see so.

patches689:


That is not a knee mortar

Its pretty obvious you dont know what you are talking about

As usual

It's pretty obvious it's a light weight mortar.

AugustineAgain:


Nope the Argentine air force showed the world how obsolete aircraft like Skyhawks and Daggers including ordinary trainers like MBB-339 can sink navy ships without guided missiles, old warplanes with ordinary free fall bombs and gun fire from cannon destroyed British Royal navy warships that has anti-aircraft missile defenses.

A pity Argentina has old and expired bombs that the air force pilots dropped on target but did not explode, they landed right inside the British warships !

Imagine if the Argentines had 3.5 generation or 4th generation jets with chaff-flares self defense and rocket pods with 6km range which are freely available today, Britain would have lost almost all her warships



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Part of the PRICE PAID (Parts 50-55)

Part 52. BRITISH SHIPS LOST & DAMAGED


Note: If the frequent unexploded bombs (1-13) had detonated on striking some of the ships listed below, the Royal Navy's additional losses might quite possibly have put the eventual success of the British Task Force in doubt.

Saturday 1st May

HMS Alacrity - slightly damaged by bomb near misses

HMS Arrow - slightly damaged by cannon fire

HMS Glamorgan - slightly damaged by bomb near misses, all off Stanley by Daggers of FAA Grupo 6.

Wednesday 12th May

HMS Glasgow - moderately damaged off Stanley by unexploded bomb (1) dropped by A-4B Skyhawks of FAA Grupo 5. Bomb passed through hull but damage took some days to repair and she shortly returned to UK.

Friday 21st May

HMS Antrim - seriously damaged in Falkland Sound outside San Carlos Water by unexploded bomb (2) dropped by Daggers of FAA Grupo 6. UXB removed but damage took some days to repair.

HMS Broadsword - slightly damaged outside San Carlos Water by cannon fire from Daggers of Grupo 6.

HMS Argonaut - slightly damaged outside San Carlos Water by rockets and cannon fire from Aermacchi MB.339A of CANA 1 Esc, and then seriously damaged by two unexploded bombs (3/4) dropped by A-4B Skyhawks of FAA Grupo 5. Removing the UXB's and carrying out repairs took a number of days and although declared operational, she soon sailed for the UK.

HMS Brilliant - slightly damaged outside San Carlos Water by cannon fire from Daggers of Grupo 6. (Different attack from "Broadsword"

HMS ARDENT - badly damaged in Grantham Sound by bombs - hits, UXB's (5+) and near misses - dropped by Daggers of Grupo 6, then mortally damaged by bombs from A-4Q Skyhawks of CANA 3 Esc off North West Island. Sank the following evening.

Sunday 23rd May

HMS ANTELOPE - damaged in San Carlos Water by two unexploded bombs (6/7) dropped by A-4B Skyhawks of Grupo 5. One of the bombs exploded that evening while being defused and she caught fire and sank next day.

Monday 24th May

RFA Sir Galahad - damaged by unexploded bomb ( and out of action for some days,

RFA Sir Lancelot - damaged by unexploded bomb (9) and not fully operational for almost three weeks,

RFA Sir Bedivere - slightly damaged by glancing bomb, all in San Carlos Water probably by A-4C Skyhawks of FAA Grupo 4.

Tuesday 25th May

HMS Broadsword - damaged north of Pebble Island by bomb from A-4B Skyhawk of Grupo 5 bouncing up through her stern and out again to land in the sea.

HMS COVENTRY - sunk north of Pebble Island in same attack by three bombs.

ATLANTIC CONVEYOR - mortally damaged north east of Falklands by Exocet missile fired by Super Etendard of CANA 2 Esc. Burnt out and later sank in tow.

Saturday 29th May

British Wye - hit north of South Georgia by bomb dropped by C-130 Hercules of FAA Grupo 1 which bounced into the sea without exploding

Tuesday 8th June

HMS Plymouth - damaged in Falkland Sound off San Carlos Water by four unexploded bombs (10-13) from Daggers of FAA Grupo 6.

RFA SIR GALAHAD - mortally damaged off Fitzroy by bombs from A-4B Skyhawks of Grupo 5 and burnt out. Later in June towed out to sea and sunk as a war grave.

RFA Sir Tristram - badly damaged off Fitzroy in same attack and abandoned, but later returned to UK and repaired.

LCU F4, HMS Fearless - sunk in Choiseul Sound by bomb from A-4B Skyhawk of Grupo 5.




History warns you not to sail frigates into war against an air force that has jet fighters like Nigeria and Angola
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The jets you mentioned there weren't obsolete in 1982.

You don't get how the Umkhonto operates I see.

agaugust:


Valour frigate CIWS has no AHEAD ammo. Your freaking CIWS has only 4km max range and only one unit on board.

The bolded part is the magic, yes ! I am flying my F-7 jet backwards, surprised? A good F-7 pilot will sink a Valour frigate, NAF is master of air to surface combat in all Africa today, even Egypt CANNOT match Nigeria in air to ground combat skills and current experience
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The Argentine air force pilots had to fly really low to avoid radar detection. And pop up at close distance making SAM(s) ineffective leaving the ship to be only protected by cannons and machine guns.


With the Umkhonto you don't have to get a lock on to fire your missile.

Today you pop a CIWS will be locked on you. And the 76mm is effective also against air targets.

Henry120:


Boko-Haram have a couple T-55's.

Captured from the nigerian army no doubt

MikeCZAR:
The Argentine air force pilots had to fly really low to avoid radar detection. And pop up at close distance making SAM(s) ineffective leaving the ship to be only protected by cannons and machine guns.


With the Umkhonto you don't have to get a lock on to fire your missile.

Today you pop a CIWS will be locked on you. And the 76mm is effective also against air targets.

76mm can engage air targets

But i wouldent say it is effective

patches689:


Captured from the nigerian army no doubt

Yes.

However, they've all most likely now been destroyed, going by the photos i've seen.

Nigerians destroy their own tanks and celebrate... geez poor armies.

SANDF DIFFERENT TYPES OF MORTARS

SANDF MORTAR SYSTEMS

jln115:
Congrats to our 7s rugby team, just won the PE 7s tournament. The blitzbokke know lead the world 7s series log.

enough already. Your boy kwametut was banned for the same thing. Did they win the competition by force of arms if no. Then how is it related to this thread.

agaugust:

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Nigerian army knee mortar.....Southies block-heads say only SANDF has it in Sub-Saharan Africa....Fools

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Do you know what's a knee mortar?

SA deploys weapon systems not weapons.

overhypedsteve:
enough already. Your boy kwametut was banned for the same thing. Did they win the competition by force of arms if no. Then how is it related to this thread.

Im sorry bro,but you guys keep going of topic, talking about the South African education system and sh;t , and when i make one comment that went of topic you wet your pants.

agaugust:


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Mandela and Buthelezi Supporters killed themselves black on black mass murder.

The whole world knows Southie blood soaked history


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNqHAPVftkA
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Not on the scale of your civil war.

Black on Black.

Hausa on Igbo.

FighterPilot:



Yes, you have a BB but your ordnance of your artillery guns have a 39L barrel. You still need to upgrade it to 52L to achieve a better range of 39-42km.

The G6-45 has a range of 54km.

agaugust:


Oh so now you confess Nigeria has Base Bleed? You denied it over 20 times here few months ago, I trapped you @Patches

Indian army video showed Bofors with NO 52 cal, it is standard barrel.

Anyway NA, NN, NAF also have AHEAD ammo Chinese/Russian equivalent. Good to go to war against every SANDF missiles now !

India cancelled the contract with Bae systems bofors for the supply of the FH77-52L .

agaugust:


Oh so now you confess Nigeria has Base Bleed? You denied it over 20 times here few months ago, I trapped you @Patches

Indian army video showed Bofors with NO 52 cal, it is standard barrel.

Anyway NA, NN, NAF also have AHEAD ammo Chinese/Russian equivalent. Good to go to war against every SANDF missiles now !

AHEAD? Fired from your admirals' ar.ses?

NaijaPikinGidi:


You mean your candles and bush lamps? Eskom and the nationwide load shedding in South Africa should be the reason to shut up and go to bed even without a generator! Tell us something else!

You mean the black outs in Nigeria?

MikeCZAR:
Dual purpose guns have AHEAD ammo, even without AHEAD they can down fighters easily.

You fly backwards making you an easy target.

SANDF has NO single AHEAD ammo, no news report or official report ever said you got it as at today. Your CIWS fires ordinary munitions .

I fly in all directions safe and secure, your warship is a sitting duck under my azz, so I can shiit my pooh on your frigate anyhow I like.

My F-7 is always outside the 4km max range of your Dual guns, you think NAF pilots are inexperienced like SAAF pilots? NAF has the best air to ground attack in modern Africa today.

Valour frigate air defense is very weak even your missiles cannot fly above 8km max ceiling, Umkhonto missile is about equal to a Roland SAM
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agaugust:


My F-7 is always outside the 4km max range of your Dual guns, you think NAF pilots are inexperienced like SAAF pilots? NAF has the best air to ground attack in modern Africa today.

Valour frigate air defense is very weak even your missiles cannot fly above 8km max ceiling, Umkhonto missile is about equal to a Roland SAM
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That's good since you would be posing no threat to the ship.

Nigeria has no frigate.

agaugust:


My F-7 is always outside the 4km max range of your Dual guns, you think NAF pilots are inexperienced like SAAF pilots? NAF has the best air to ground attack in modern Africa today.

Valour frigate air defense is very weak even your missiles cannot fly above 8km max ceiling, Umkhonto missile is about equal to a Roland SAM
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Also note that the 4km is its effective firing range.

Henry120:


Every Nigerian who lives abroad has a Nigerian Residence. Nothing to it.

Those Southies think like toddlers

MikeCZAR:
Also note that the 4km is its effective firing range.

4km is maximum anti-air range. SANDF has NO single AHEAD ammo, no news report or official report ever said you got it as at today. Your CIWS fires ordinary munitions
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agaugust:


4km is maximum anti-air range. SANDF has NO single AHEAD ammo, no news report or official report ever said you got it as at today. Your CIWS fires ordinary munitions
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That's the effective range.

Even with ordinary munition it is automatic and guided by radar. It'll be able to bring down targets. AHEAD makes it more effective

What did CSIR use to calculate trajectory of the rounds when deployed in civilian areas.

mzilakazi:


That was from your words of admission sir. I don't know why would a young man like you be ashamed of living in Nigeria. You give us impression that Nigeria is not worth a better living standards. listen, I am very proud of SA and I would never leave it for another country. My blood is black, blue, white, green and gold. That was the same voice that many whites said when they returned back home from fallacious exile. They always dreamt and longed for mzansi fever of boere wors and sput braai; picknic and tenting alongside the river banks. The true culture of Mzansi. That's one thing that will never make us leave Mzansi.

Ashamed of my Nigeria? Lol. What do you think I do on this forum daily for two years, defending America? Lol.

Anyway, I thank God for his goodness, I travel around the world and my home remains in Nigeria, what I have in America is a house, a building....Nigeria is my home
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mzilakazi:


Stop making a mockery of yourself. Jeez, I wonder what kind of mortar is that. Bwahahahaha.....

Lol, ignoramus mumu. That's a knee mortar that South Africans have been posting their own photos here since last year, boasting that only SANDF has knee mortar in Africa. Lol, Nigeria has it and I posted the photo.

Your SA friends are shocked to see the pic.

patches689:


That is not a knee mortar

Its pretty obvious you dont know what you are talking about

As usual

Lol, post those your SANDF knee mortars photo again and let's compare. Lol...Butt hurt, we too have knee mortar
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mzilakazi:



Stop making a mockery of yourself. Jeez, I wonder what kind of mortar is that. Bwahahahaha.....

Knee mortar, dude, see the man has to go down on his knee to use it, knee level mortar, knee mortar....are you a fisherman or corn farmer?
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Henry120:


That's a Light weight mortar. It is very easy to see so.

Yes bros, they are so light weight, they are the 51mm class also called Man portable mortar, Grenades discharger, Knee mortar....it knee level height and you have to go down on your knee to operate them, very short range, often below 1,000 meters max. Light infantry weapon, early introduction includes Japan in WW II.

The Southies think only SANDF has it in Africa. Those guys could say only South Africa has an airport in Africa. Lol.

MikeCZAR:
The jets you mentioned there weren't obsolete in 1982.

You don't get how the Umkhonto operates I see.

Skyhawk was an obsolete 1960s jet with no radar, yet it sank warships in a fleet that has guided anti-aircraft missile frigates and destroyers.

History has proved me right no matter how you Southies try to distort war history.....you all lost this argument....and lost your Valour frigates....sorry I had to use your expensive warships for target practice....am sorry sir.... I was provoked

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MikeCZAR:
The Argentine air force pilots had to fly really low to avoid radar detection. And pop up at close distance making SAM(s) ineffective leaving the ship to be only protected by cannons and machine guns.


With the Umkhonto you don't have to get a lock on to fire your missile.

Today you pop a CIWS will be locked on you. And the 76mm is effective also against air targets.

I have stripped your Valour frigate n..a..k..e..d and I find nothing impressive. It's air defense capability is 5 times less than NNS Aradu BVR missiles and multiple long range twin guns
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