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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by datguru: 11:42am On Dec 21, 2014 |
lomaxx: My brother! No be small thing ooo |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by optimusprime2(m): 11:42am On Dec 21, 2014 |
"free will" |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by brainiac007: 11:49am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Youngsage: I appreciate your patience in trying to inform these people. But it seems this thread was created purely to fuel arguments and not for a sincere search for truth. When they meet their maker, let them ask Him to His face or better still ask the devil since they seem to be quite intimate with him. We who believe, believe and there is nothing any mere mortal can do about it! 2 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by adexsimply(m): 11:49am On Dec 21, 2014 |
astronautog:your comment is fallacious |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Adiwana: 11:51am On Dec 21, 2014 |
falseman: No.you are the one that is wrong&he never got what he wanted.. We have powers over the angels&devils cos We were created in Gods image rather its sin that has kept us where we are.the devil wanted that throne of christ but cos of his pride was denied that place&he was casted out of heaven..its just like planning a coup¬ succeding,you know whats next.so he knew that where he could get God was tru mankind&thats why after rapture he is coming again to make people to get that mark.remeber that devil,demons,hades,death are all going to be thrown into the lake of fire,so his aim is to get as much people as he could lay his hands on |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by victorazy(m): 11:54am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Weselion: Heavengly beings are not like flesh bro! They are only designed to warship God singing "holly holly holly" Lucifer was a spirit created by God to serve him. The question, where was the force that possessed him came from? Is he the only angel in heaven? I've argued this with my friend when I told him that lucifer was possesed by a for and he asked me "who possessed him?" And I couldn't answer! Note: on the contrary of wat u said sir. Only human has the ability to make choice, not even the angels, ok?. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by NwaJesusteete(m): 11:55am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Previously their was nothing like the name davil untill the eruption of the crisis. The devil u hear or see today r all fallen angels that fought with lucifer and many more that are still fallen till date. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by kazmanbanjoko(m): 11:57am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Yu see. When GOD created angels. He created them with different feelings (love, sadness, happy, good, bad, evil, e.t.c.) datz where evil comes frm. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by DonaldGenes(m): 11:58am On Dec 21, 2014 |
Pr0ton: I pity your soul... In due time you shall answer Jesus Christ when your cup is full... For now, you can rant and insult God as you like.. She its too much freedom ? No worry |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by emperoracro(m): 11:59am On Dec 21, 2014 |
I don't know why u all keep arguing in circles! God created ALL THINGs but humans have freewill to do as they wish. If you are not satisfied with that, go and jump inside a Lagoon period! |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by johnchiii(m): 12:01pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
In the book of genesis chapter 1 verse 26, it says, let US make man; and in verse 2b; and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of waters. This means that b4 d downfall of lucifer, the spirit of God and angels and lucifer have bn in the world, and God was incharge and the ruler of evry oda angel and spirit, but lucifer became jealous of Gods powers and became hungry 4 power, so d spirit dat entered lucifer emanated from him himself uhrough his thoughts to rule d world thatthey created.. NOTE: lucifer wasnt created but he was wt God durhng the creation. So after the war wt God and failure, he was banished and vanished dwn to easth by God wtthe oda spirits that he convinced. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by DonaldGenes(m): 12:04pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Collynzo9: The answer lies in your brain.. Very simple God wanted to see how Loyal man can be...he loved us and so wanted to see how much we can loved him back...That's why he asked Adam to control everything on earth.. Name every living |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by victorazy(m): 12:09pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
johnchiii: Then who created Lucifer? You mean God is not the creator of all things we can see and cannot? Where the Lucifer came from, God's brother or cousin? |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by christconscious: 12:10pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Weselion:...immense revelation pay say.No existence of devil in our lives but we ll decide WHOM we want to be. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by xtripple: 12:15pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
ooman:even a new born baby can get angry, have u ask yourself where she copy that., every creation contain light and darkness |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 12:16pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
I'm really enjoying this.. Especially page 0.. I think we should ask ourselves first what a spirit is.. Then move on from there.. We can have this philosophical discourse without insults.. Anyone who's interested should mention and let's try n figure this out.. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by brainiac007: 12:16pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
MadCow1: Haven't you heard? He who makes the rules dictates the tunes. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by johnchiii(m): 12:17pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
victorazy:God is the creator, go and read that passage well, wen God said "Us", he was reffering to al the angels and spirits. "in OUR own image" |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by MadCow1: 12:19pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
chrisviral: It indeed is that simple... But does not make it right. Any sane man would hear both sides of the story before making a judgement.. But in Christianity the case is different. That is why I have chosen to stay neutral in this matter.. God who ordered the Israelis not to kill also ordered them to wipe out the Canaanites in the same book of Exodus. Infact, the journey of the Israelis from Egypt to Canaan was riddled with killings. God killed more people in the Bible than Lucifer yet the bible let's us to believe that Lucifer is the bad guy.. Gods word is indeed Law.. 3 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by MadCow1: 12:20pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
brainiac007: Indeed... |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by David0(m): 12:20pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
I believe right from the beginning, there exist good and evil. I believe before God started His creation, there exist a story that we may never know about. Whatever happened with Lucifer, the Angels and God, didn't begin and end in one day. It's same thing that happens today, where everyone wants to be in power. The Angels knew evil exist, but they made a choice to remain loyal to God. Lucifer kept wishing he was king, the thought kept growing, he started planning and planting the idea of a coup in the heart of the other Angels. He succeeded in convincing one third of them. When God finally banished Lucifer and the other Angels, Heaven became pure again. A typical example of that was Adam and Eve who knew no evil from the start. Lucifer gave them the code, disobey God. The question that should really be asked is "why should God plant that tree of life and tell Adam and Eve not to eat from it?. Looks more like God was calling for trouble. But then again good and evil has been in existence from the very beginning. The Bible made us understand everything God created was good. Evil may also play a minor part in the creation which may have resulted to that tree. And God warned them off it that if they eat from it, they will die. Reason been that, that tree has an element of evil. Adam and Eve were made pure with good, the typical heaven after the fall of Lucifer, the moment they ate that fruit, they knew evil immediately. They became stained. They now knew both good and evil. Nothing stops God from pardoning them, but they had evil in them God couldn't come close. There was a huge gap. No matter what, man was stained forever. Even though Adam and Eve could see God with their very own eyes, they lost it. That's why today Jesus, the sacrificial lamb, the pure blood, the man with no evil in Him, serves as the link between man and God. Even though you die today in Christ Jesus, you still won't see God in His original self, but in Jesus who is God Himself. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by daramsont(m): 12:25pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
He (lucifer) concentrated on his glory that God gave him instead of concentrating on God the giver. therefore pride came in into his life.... This is as a result of a power that God gave to all His creatures, that is the power of selfwill. To do what we want..... And that is what lucifer used. Or will u say someone is obedient when he does not have the power to disobey you? 1 Like |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by brainiac007: 12:27pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Collynzo9: No. You can only guess what the man wanted to use the fuel for. You could never be certain. Fuel could be used to wipe off the stubborn stain on a tiled floor, for his car, for arson, etc. Whatever the reason, he chose to keep it to himself, afterall he's the man of the house. The question you asked can best be asked the one who planted the tree. Please search him out, perhaps you''ll find the answers you seek. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by falseman(m): 12:28pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Adiwana: What are you talking about? What was the purpose of Christ on earth? If your answer is to wash away our sins then you are wrong with your assumption. Lucifer can't be jealous of Christ when he wasn't in existence. By the way did the rebellion of lucifer occur before or after the creation of mankind? If you answer that correctly you will understand what made lucifer jealous and it has nothing to do with Christ. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Adiwana: 12:30pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
brainiac007: people dont get it.GOD is a consuming FIRE!!! How can you put your hand in a fire¬ expect to get burnt..Devil never wanted Gods throne rather he wanted the place of christ&since we are created in Gods image,that position is ours&the devil has sworn we will never get to that position 1 Like |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by sukkot: 12:32pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
God gave him ( lucifer ) freewill in the book of genesis chapter 2. he is the tree of knowledge of good and evil meaning he has the capability to do good and evil. freewill |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Cvesta(m): 12:35pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
Youngsage:where was this account written in the Bible? and why did God the omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent not forsee the devil's opening of Man's third Eye |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Pr0ton: 12:37pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
brainiac007: and God being omniscient knew beforehand that the ability to choose between good and evil would eventually be disastrous. Being programmed as rebots would be better. No one would go to hell. We'll all do good, praise Him, worship Him, He becomes our God, we become His people. And that's love. He shouldn't be childish; creating imperfect beings and expecting all of them to turn good. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Adiwana: 12:37pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
falseman: it happened before the creation of mankind.Christ was sent to Save mankind from our sins..remeber that Christ has been there before mankind..remeber ''before Abraham,i was'' |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by falseman(m): 12:38pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
sukkot: Change that thought. Every angel was given the freewill and they all know Good from Evil. Lucifer is not the tree of knowledge. |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Kei144(m): 12:38pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
He. 2:6 But there is a place where someone has testified: “What is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him? He. 2:7 You made him a little [Or him for a little while] lower than the angels; you crowned him with glory and honour He. 2:8 and put everything under his feet.” [Psalm 8:4-6] In putting everything under him, God left nothing that is not subject to him. Yet at present we do not see everything subject to him. In Heb 2:7, we see that in the beginning God made man in such a way that for a little while he would be lower than the angels. After the little while, man would rise far above the angels and become exactly like God Himself. Is. 14:12 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! Is. 14:13 You said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. Is. 14:14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” Apparently, shortly after God created man, Lucifer saw that the newly created man would soon become greater than him. This must have excited jealousy in him. So, he said in his heart, “I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will make myself like the Most High.” Ge. 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. Ge. 3:5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” How could Lucifer raise his throne above the stars of God (mankind)? The only way was to prevent them from rising up above the angels and making them to fall. So, Lucifer went to work. He lied to mankind that the way to rise to the level of God was by rebelling against God’s word. Even though God had earlier warned mankind against receiving the fruit of Satan that leads to death, they still went ahead and accepted the supposed wisdom (or fruit) of Satan and fell. https://www.nairaland.com/2015171/purpose-jesus-mission-earth |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by OLUJOSHINS(m): 12:39pm On Dec 21, 2014 |
His proud and never satisfied heart |
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