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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by dunkem21(m): 9:11am On Jan 03, 2015
Dont worry. Things will get clearer on 6th Jan, 2015.

Nigerians will ask the military to show us a copy of the said certificate since the General can not even find a photocopy to clear the air on this very important verification exercise. So the General cannot storm their headquarters and beg demand for the immediate release of his certificate to shame critics instead of watching his political career crumble in his eyes.

Meanwhile, the campaign is on; just as the masses have been helping with funds for his campaign, we will also help him march to the DMI with ...#BringBackBuhariCertificate ..#BBBC placards.

Join us!

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:12am On Jan 03, 2015
brownlord:


Really, Buhari does not have to explain to him?

Don't you think he and other millions of Nigerians including Buhari's supporters terrified by this deserve to know as Buhari is seeking a public office? Your mentality and reasoning is whacked.

I shudder at the thought of Buhari ever becoming president where now that he is a private citizen his followers have already elevated hi. To god like status who is answerable to no one.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by D9ty7(m): 9:13am On Jan 03, 2015
Validated:


Tell me have the certificates been found? We have been searching all the military formations. But he can save us all these embarrassments by just writing to WAEC or all those big-big Colleges he attended to get copies.

We shall scrutinise them sha oo! But this delay is getting toooo looooong.
Exactly, I think one of the schools he claimed he attended can come forward to confirm him as an ex-student.
ABU already said something about VP Namadi Sambo. Let all those big-big schools say something.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:13am On Jan 03, 2015
PvtParts:


Buhari's INEC form is not his personal property but a public one. The affidavit he swore is in the public domain and as such is a declaration to all of us. If finally the Military board comes out to deny officially his claim then Buhari lied to me, Nigerians living and yet to be born.


His certificate is his personal property. He has submitted his inec form through his party. Thank God you say "IF". Why not be patient to hear whether the military will deny him?

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:14am On Jan 03, 2015
barcanista:
His certificate is his personal property. He has submitted his inec form through his party. Thank God you say "IF". Why not be patient to hear whether the military will deny him?

The affidavit he swore and the INEC form is not his property.

Buhari would have lied to all of us living and yet to born if his affidavit claim are proven false.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Tolexander: 9:15am On Jan 03, 2015
lekkie073:
Yes
Reason objectively....
Why didn't obj during his time make such pronouncements that his certificates are with the military board
Why would GMB refer to a non existent office? Secretary of the military board. Military don't use such titles in the hierarchy structure

Why would the military in the first place be in possession of his original certificates

The truth will soon be out.
In the meantime tell tinubu to show GMB the way to Toronto .......maybe they can as well get GMB one too
I'm sorry bro, the boldend doesn't nullify GMB's claim. Cos the both Generals contested the election in 2003 and GMB didn't give such claim which is enough to conclusively assume that; had the inec seriously mandated both generals to present their certificates then, Obasanjo could have made such a claim.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by modhream: 9:15am On Jan 03, 2015
lekkie073:
Yes
Reason objectively....
Why didn't obj during his time make such pronouncements that his certificates are with the military board
Why would GMB refer to a non existent office? Secretary of the military board. Military don't use such titles in the hierarchy structure

Why would the military in the first place be in possession of his original certificates

The truth will soon be out.
In the meantime tell tinubu to show GMB the way to Toronto .......maybe they can as well get GMB one too
Ediot!
There's actually the office of Army secretary,Navy Secretary,etc.
Jesus,where do you worms come up with these lies?

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by omenka(m): 9:16am On Jan 03, 2015
brownlord:


Do you give your credentials to your employer in your host country? since this issue came up i expect Buhari to do the needful.
What I think is going on is, the General just might be waiting for the propitious time to bury all the lies and deceit of PDP. Like allowing your enemies to nibble at you again and again and again, feigning defeat. Then when they've congregated at the same spot, jubilant over their presumed victory, you drop a nuke right in their centre!!!

It is a Machiavellian strategy.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by brownlord: 9:16am On Jan 03, 2015
omenka:
Like I said in the thread, what the government would trigger by tinkering with such an idea would make the subsidy protests look like new yam festival in some rural settlement. [b]Nigerians will arise and take what is duly theirs for good.

Whether they like it or not, Jonathan isn't getting a coronation on valentine's day like he did in Eagle's Square last year. I hate it when supposed "men" are always looking for ways to dodge contests. What glory is there in victory that wasn't fought for but handed on a silver plater?? He has dodged debates and elections in the past, he's not getting that this time.

Honestly you guys are something else, can you for once forget about Jonathan? The power belongs to the electorate and not Jonathan or anyone, the people choose who governs them, i wonder when some of you will realize this, politicians and electorates should be like guys wooing babes make her see reasons she needs to shun others and give him attention, you don't go about castigating her boyfriend or those asking her out. They are irrelevant, show to the electorate why it should be you and forget about Jonathan.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by brownlord: 9:20am On Jan 03, 2015
omenka:
What I think is going on is, the General just might be waiting for the propitious time to bury all the lies and deceit of PDP. Like allowing your enemies to nibble at you again and again and again, feigning defeat. Then when they've congregated at the same spot, jubilant over their presumed victory, you drop a nuke right in their centre!!!

It is a Machiavellian strategy.

Good thinking, not the senseless rant of banicansta as if buhari should not be answerable to Nigerians. I hope he comes out to shun the critics at last, if otherwise Jega and Iwu should be hanged.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by modhream: 9:21am On Jan 03, 2015
brownlord:
Does this trash make any sense to you? petition APC National secretary when Buhari can just prove his critics wrong? sometimes i wonder why we tend to be so biased in everything.

Did Obama wait for Americans to petition National secretary of Democratic Party before doing the needful?

Buhari should be compelled to show to show his credentials and if true he has no certificate, Jega and maurice iwu should be jailed, A man that contested three elections already having issues with credentials which was supposedly used during screening of previous election says a lot about the commission.

I know this is a game plan by IBB/PDP but he should prove them wrong if available
Actually,Obama waited 4yrs before releasing his long form birth certificate.Come up with another stite,this one won't fly

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:25am On Jan 03, 2015
brownlord:


Really, Buhari does not have to explain to him?

Don't you think he and other millions of Nigerians including Buhari's supporters terrified by this deserve to know as Buhari is seeking a public office? Your mentality and reasoning is whacked.
no Buhari supporter is terrified except the usual TANists. The APC which is sponsoring buhari is in the entity that Buhari reports to. APC reports to INEC and nigerians. If you have any complaints, channel it to APC office or go to court

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:29am On Jan 03, 2015
They are busy mocking buhari while their vp doesnt have his own certificates........how ironic

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:30am On Jan 03, 2015
You definitely do not understand how things are done. Buhari owe you or anyone no obligation to show his own credentials except APC. He submited an affidavit with the APC, of which I'm 200% sure have been verified by the screening committee of the party.if you need to know more kindly write APC or the Military or you approach the court. We have Military Spokespeople to enquire from
brownlord:


Good thinking, not the senseless rant of banicansta as if buhari should not be answerable to Nigerians. I hope he comes out to shun the critics at last, if otherwise Jega and Iwu should be hanged.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:32am On Jan 03, 2015
HugeCock:
They are busy mocking buhari while their vp doesnt have his own certificates........how ironic
Don't mind those mischief makers.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:32am On Jan 03, 2015
barcanista:
no Buhari supporter is terrified except the usual TANists. The APC which is sponsoring buhari is in the entity that Buhari reports to. APC reports to INEC and nigerians. If you have any complaints, channel it to APC office or go to court

Then why did you bother to start a thread here?

Typical APC antics is to cower and insult their way when cornered.

Just yesterday, Laykon one of your fellow paid shills here was caught editing a wiki article on Buhari citing economic breakthroughs during his despotic and dismall 20 months forgettable reign.

Nobody is challenging your choice of voting Buhari. That is your prerogative and constitutional rights that GEJ will guarantee by ensuring a free fair election but what I don't want to hear from you is how you present this man as a saint, intellectual genius and best next thing were every evidence and antecadants point to the opposite.

In short stop shilling here.

Kapish!

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by omenka(m): 9:32am On Jan 03, 2015
brownlord:


Honestly you guys are something else, can you for once forget about Jonathan? The power belongs to the electorate and not Jonathan or anyone, the people choose who governs them, i wonder when some of you will realize this, politicians and electorates should be like guys wooing babes make her see reasons she needs to shun others and give him attention, you don't go about castigating her boyfriend or those asking her out. They are irrelevant, show to the electorate why it should be you and forget about Jonathan.
Actually, we share a common opinion about these issues. Here's what I wrote in response to someone's post a coupla days back:

emiye said:

you cant sell bullshiit, even if packaged in
golden foil, because it stinks from afar.
And here was my response:

Steve Jobs could sell bulllshit to anyone in an
aluminium foil, believe that. It is all about
branding and apparently, the Jonathan
campaign handlers are doing a terrible job of
branding his candidacy. Their relentless attacks
even make more people sympathetic to the
General.

It is just like having to advice one's child
CONSTANTLY to be wary of some bad boy and
NEVER to get close to him, that he's a devil in
disguise. The more you keep drumming it into
her ears how dangerous the said dude is, the
stronger your daughter's resolve to want to get
into bed with the dude. Jonathanians simply
don't understand this principle!
You see. So I'm all for these Jonathanians trying to "woo" the electorates, just like you said, and not these constant attacks on him being a dictator, a coup plotter, a religious extremist, a Boko Haram sympathiser, a northerner trying to "islamise" the country, bla bla bla. They hardly try to woo us by telling us "what Jonathan has done to deserve a second shot"!! They say the campaigns should be "issues based" and to this day, I'm yet to see any "issues" in the utterances of PDP supporters or their spokespersons.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Collynzo9: 9:35am On Jan 03, 2015
LRNZH:
It is a major SNAFU on Vanguard's part.

A source in the Military became the Army spokesperson.

Failed journalism.
Punch, Sahara, Premium times and the rest do that all the time.
Isn't that failed journalism?

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by donphilopus: 9:36am On Jan 03, 2015
Monimatic:
Weather or not Military denied Buhari's claim..Pa Buhari should first show us his Original or Photocopies of his credentials...shikena!
Abi Buhari ur messiah no go school
Till Buhari show us his certificate, in the Words of APC Governor Adam Oshiomole"Barcanista u can go n die !!
grin grin grin

Like I have always said, you guys don't have the "droit moral" to question Buhari's educational qualification. If at this age you don't still know the difference between "weather" and "whether", then what makes you think that you're better than Buhari who was not only a head boy, but also an SP?!

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:37am On Jan 03, 2015
Tolexander:
I'm sorry bro, the boldend doesn't nullify GMB's claim. Cos the both Generals contested the election in 2003 and GMB didn't give such claim which is enough to conclusively assume that; had the inec seriously mandated both generals to present their certificates then, Obasanjo could have made such a claim.
God bless you.is it a Surprise that only the TAN footsoldiers are blabbing?
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Caseless: 9:40am On Jan 03, 2015
barcanista:
Can you back your words with the official response of the Military or the Presidency?
don't waste ur time on these guys- they have nothing to clutch 'unto', rather they resort to cheap lies.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:42am On Jan 03, 2015
The thread is to expose the lie of the other thread that made fp despite its malicious content
PvtParts:


Then why did you bother to start a thread here?

Typical APC antics is to cower and insult their way when cornered.

Just yesterday, Laykon one of your fellow paid shills here was caught editing a wiki article on Buhari citing economic breakthroughs during his despotic and dismall 20 months forgettable reign.

Nobody is challenging your choice of voting Buhari. That is your prerogative and constitutional rights that GEJ will guarantee by ensuring a free fair election but what I don't want to hear from you is how you present this man as a saint, intellectual genius and best next thing were every evidence and antecadants point to the opposite.

In short stop shilling here.

Kapish!
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:43am On Jan 03, 2015
barcanista:
God bless you.is it a Surprise that only the TAN footsoldiers are blabbing?

INEC does not have the power to disqualify anybody. There are several court rulings to attest to this.

INEC presents the aspirants forms and certificates for public scrutiny. Anybody in objection with the contents and or claims contained in the submitted form then takes the issue up with a petition to the AGF citing allegation of perjury or forgery. The AGF is then mandated to carry out investigations and where sufficient evidence supports the original petition the AGF will then file criminal charges and alongside a suit demanding the would be aspirant be disqualified from contesting any public position in future.

That is how it works.

This is to prevent the situation that INEC or the attorney general's office are working in tandem to frustrate an aspirant.

The real issue here is that Buhari's affidavit is a clear indication that he has no certificates. If it was not contested in the past, then it is now.

Buhari should clear the air once and for all.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Juliaann(f): 9:49am On Jan 03, 2015
They should show us the certificate already

GEJ till buhari show us his certificate

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by LRNZH(m): 9:49am On Jan 03, 2015
Collynzo9:

Punch, Sahara, Premium times and the rest do that all the time.
Isn't that failed journalism?


You miss my point.

Quoting a source and stating it as that is not the issue.

But Claiming the source is the Army spokesperson is on another level Punch, Sahara Reporters, Premium Tines etc cannot match.

That's what I mean by failed journalism.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:52am On Jan 03, 2015
barcanista:
The thread is to expose the lie of the other thread that made fp despite its malicious content
That is an issue between you APC and PDP shills.

I did not respond to that thread because I know any govt institution is not prompted by public debate but by formal applications.

Buhari can either clear the air once and for all and retrieve his personal property as you rightly stated that his certificates are his property from the military board which ought not to be in possession of it after all these years or he can wait and see this turn into a public mess with lawyers demanding the release of his documents through a formal request.

Even at that Only Buhari can be presented his "certificates" by the military board he claims is in their possession. The lawyers will then still proceed to demand he forwards his documents to back the claims made in the INEC form and in his affidavit.

This is a cluster Phuck situation that Buhari's campaingn team and the general public will not want to get bugged down with as we will want to get more of his political portfolio than his shoddy archiving.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:52am On Jan 03, 2015
PvtParts:


INEC does not have the power to disqualify anybody. There are several court rulings to attest to this.

INEC presents the aspirants forms and certificates for public scrutiny. Anybody in objection with the contents and or claims contained in the submitted form then takes the issue up with a petition to the AGF citing allegation of perjury or forgery. The AGF is then mandated to carry out investigations and where sufficient evidence supports the original petition the AGF will then file criminal charges and alongside a suit demanding the would be aspirant be disqualified from contesting any public position in future.

That is how it works.

This is to prevent the situation that INEC or the attorney general's office are working in tandem to frustrate an aspirant.

The real issue here is that Buhari's affidavit is a clear indication that he has no certificates. If it was not contested in the past, then it is now.

Buhari should clear the air once and for all.
Why not petition the AGF if you are convinced that he lied? You don't need him to "clear any air". There is no air to be cleared. The Military is there, the Army board is there, the Presidency is there, what is stopping you or any critic? If not for mischief do you actually expect Buhari to come out to satisfy the taste of mischiefmakers after swearing to an affidavit? You guys can be funny and pathetic at the same time

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by pendy79: 9:52am On Jan 03, 2015
lekkie073:
Yes
Reason objectively....
Why didn't obj during his time make such pronouncements that his certificates are with the military board
Why would GMB refer to a non existent office? Secretary of the military board. Military don't use such titles in the hierarchy structure

Why would the military in the first place be in possession of his original certificates

The truth will soon be out.
In the meantime tell tinubu to show GMB the way to Toronto .......maybe they can as well get GMB one too

I think you should keep quiet when you don't understand things. Saying there is nothing like Secretary of Military Board shows total ignorance of the military.

Who do you think handles postings and transfers or even trainings?

Some of you just say things online without knowing what you're talking about.

Buhari was staged out in a Palace Coup and everything he had in Dodan Barracks was prevented from being taken out not even his children's cloths before he was locked up for years under house arrest.

If he made a claim, let the military spokesperson deny the claim not some unknown source, the unknown source can be the reporter's mother for all I care.

Let the military spokesman, Brigadier Olaleye deny the claims before we know if he is lying or not .

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:57am On Jan 03, 2015
PvtParts:

That is an issue between you APC and PDP shills.

I did not respond to that thread because I know any govt institution is not prompted by public debate but by formal applications.

Buhari can either clear the air once and for all and retrieve his personal property as you rightly stated that his certificates are his property from the military board which ought not to be in possession of it after all these years or he can wait and see this turn into a public mess with lawyers demanding the release of his documents through a formal request.

Even at that Only Buhari can be presented his "certificates" by the military board he claims is in their possession. The lawyers will then still proceed to demand he forwards his documents to back the claims made in the INEC form and in his affidavit.

This is a cluster Phuck situation that Buhari's campaingn team and the general public will not want to get bugged down with as we will want to get more of his political portfolio than his shoddy archiving.
We shall welcome every scrutiny of lawyers, journalists and other citizens. The Lawyers and others don't have the right to collect GMB's certificate except by his permission. They can only verify the claim of Buhari. I admire your maturity so far, it tells a lot.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 9:58am On Jan 03, 2015
barcanista:
Why not petition the AGF if you are convinced that he lied? You don't need him to "clear any air". There is no air to be cleared. The Military is there, the Army board is there, the Presidency is there, what is stopping you or any critic? If not for mischief do you actually expect Buhari to come out to satisfy the taste of mischiefmakers after swearing to an affidavit? You guys can be funny and pathetic at the same time


I thought you earlier said Buhari's certificate are his personal property? Then what in God's name is his property still doing in a Military Board file cabinet?

Any how you twist it Buhari has tangled himself with this mess and the affidavit he swore to has given this a criminal twist if the board is not in posseseion of the documents and also if they don't tally with what he filled in the INEC form.

Stop defending nonsense. Tell your Buhari to retrieve the. Ertificates so that we should concentrate on his campaingn portfolio.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 10:00am On Jan 03, 2015
pendy79:


I think you should keep quiet when you don't understand things. Saying there is nothing like Secretary of Military Board shows total ignorance of the military.

Who do you think handles postings and transfers or even trainings?

Some of you just say things online without knowing what you're talking about.

Buhari was staged out in a Palace Coup and everything he had in Dodan Barracks was prevented from being taken out not even his children's cloths before he was locked up for years under house arrest.

If he made a claim, let the military spokesperson deny the claim not some unknown source, the unknown source can be the reporter's mother for all I care.

Let the military spokesman, Brigadier Olaleye deny the claims before we know if he is lying or not .
aptly put!
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by SeverusSnape(m): 10:00am On Jan 03, 2015
I'M not here for any argument... All I have to say is this...



#BringbackBuharicertificates. angry

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