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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 10:00am On Jan 03, 2015
barcanista:
We shall welcome every scrutiny of lawyers, journalists and other citizens. The Lawyers and others don't have the right to collect GMB's certificate except by his permission. They can only verify the claim of Buhari. I admire your maturity so far, it tells a lot.

Let him go and retrieve it already.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 10:03am On Jan 03, 2015
taharqa:
Shldn't Buhari and APC just release d said certificates and save all of us d pain?? Sm of us do not find d current noise interesting ... Let Buhari release d certificates and maybe there is a small chance we will start discussing issues (though I doubt that as both sides are already roaming mad)

The certificate is said to be with the military. The military is yet to deny or confirm. Anything beyond this is speculation.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 10:05am On Jan 03, 2015
PvtParts:



I thought you earlier said Buhari's certificate are his personal property? Then what in God's name is his property still doing in a Military Board file cabinet?

Any how you twist it Buhari has tangled himself with this mess and the affidavit he swore to has given this a criminal twist if the board is not in posseseion of the documents and also if they don't tally with what he filled in the INEC form.

Stop defending nonsense. Tell your Buhari to retrieve the. Ertificates so that we should concentrate on his campaingn portfolio.
"IF"... Why not be patient to get the position of the Military Board?

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Collynzo9: 10:13am On Jan 03, 2015
LRNZH:


You miss my point.

Quoting a source and stating it as that is not the issue.

But Claiming the source is the Army spokesperson is on another level Punch, Sahara Reporters, Premium Tines etc cannot match.

That's what I mean by failed journalism.
Sahara reporters, Premium times and Punch do that all the time to favour APC and you know it! They quote an unknown source and give the article an official headline.
I will dig up examples soon.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 10:21am On Jan 03, 2015
Some people and drawing senseless parallels sha.

Boka haram and biafra.

Buhari certificate and stella odua forgery.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 10:26am On Jan 03, 2015
django1:
Some people and drawing senseless parallels sha.

Boka haram and biafra.

Buhari certificate and stella odua forgery.
I don't see any parallel between BH and Biafra, because BH is a terrorist group while Biafra was a secessionist group. No one accused GMB of forgery, I challenge anyone that thinks otherwise to present fact. This is unlike Stella saga. Don't mind those ppl behind the senseless comparism

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by gratieao: 10:30am On Jan 03, 2015
barcanista:
His certificate is his personal property. He has submitted his inec form through his party. Thank God you say "IF". Why not be patient to hear whether the military will deny him?
#BringBackBuhariCertificate

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by gratieao: 10:32am On Jan 03, 2015
modhream:

Ediot!
There's actually the office of Army secretary,Navy Secretary,etc.
Jesus,where do you worms come up with these lies?
#BringBackBuhariCertificate

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by modhream: 10:47am On Jan 03, 2015
gratieao:

#BringBackBuhariCertificate
Talk about ediocy.
Ndo o nna
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by dat9jaguy(m): 10:51am On Jan 03, 2015
D9ty7:
My question is why will Buhari's certificate be with the millitary? And not just any certificate, the original copy. Ahn ahn! Where I came from, companies and firms only keep the photocoipes and not the original.
And the second question is when did he submit his certificate to the millitary? Was it before the 2011 elelction or after the 2011 election. From the look of things, it is evident that Buhari submitted his cv when he was still in service, so what has he been using.
The point is not about the TANist or whatever you call them trying to pain Buhari black. The thing is, where is his certificate?
Sambo had the same issue, it has been resolved, ABU confirmed him as one of their products. Let one of Buhari's schools confirm him as their student who graduated, then we'll keep quiet. But until then, let him provide his certificate.


The Nigeria Army has not come out to deny GMB's affidavit,so that tells me he is saying the truth.
Instead of hating,pray you achieve half of what this man has achieved in his life.


Vote for Buhari.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Kenai: 10:53am On Jan 03, 2015
Collynzo9:

Sahara reporters, Premium times and Punch do that all the time to favour APC and you know it! They quote an unknown source and give the article an official headline.
I will dig up examples soon.

- http://saharareporters.com/2014/11/09/boko-haram-releases-new-video-captured-towns-shekau-seen-preaching-locals

- http://saharareporters.com/2014/09/03/boko-haram-takes-over-another-town-yobe

- http://saharareporters.com/2014/11/02/nigeria-detains-military-commanders-abandoning-mubi-boko-haram

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by dat9jaguy(m): 10:59am On Jan 03, 2015
PvtParts:


Let him go and retrieve it already.

Why?To satisfy you?The relevant authorities are satisfied,you do your own part by voting
whomsoever you like and stop feeling important.
This reply is on the assumption that you are of voting age.

Vote for Buhari.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by D9ty7(m): 11:15am On Jan 03, 2015
dat9jaguy:



The Nigeria Army has not come out to deny GMB's affidavit,so that tells me he is saying the truth.
Instead of hating,pray you achieve half of what this man has achieved in his life.


Vote for Buhari.
Well, why should I pray that I achieve half of what Buhari achieved?
I am not suprised tho, your grandfather served Buhari, your father served him, and you are on course to serve him too. Can't you just get it?
Your family is specially designated to live under the admibistration of this man. And you are not yet recognised. It is high time you stood up and register your name among the great men we have in the world. 2015 should not pass you by.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Demdem(m): 11:20am On Jan 03, 2015
@ Topic,

Nop, the military didn't. Only Jonathan cocck suckers think they did.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by dat9jaguy(m): 11:23am On Jan 03, 2015
D9ty7:

Well, why should I pray that I achieve half of what Buhari achieved?
I am not suprised tho, your grandfather served Buhari, your father served him, and you are on course to serve him too. Can't you just get it?
Your family is specially designated to live under the admibistration of this man. And you are not yet recognised. It is high time you stood up and register your name among the great men we have in the world. 2015 should not pass you by.

Remember your grandpa and your father also served him when he was Head of State.
Don't bother yourself about me,I'm on course to being who i want to be.


Vote for Buhari.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Demdem(m): 11:24am On Jan 03, 2015
taharqa:
Shldn't Buhari and APC just release d said certificates and save all of us d pain?? Sm of us do not find d current noise interesting ... Let Buhari release d certificates and maybe there is a small chance we will start discussing issues (though I doubt that as both sides are already roaming mad)

Actually it's that pain I believe the Apc intends to continue to torment nonentities that think this is an issue in the first place.
Giving ur enemies work to do while forgetting core issues. It's a political weapon and it's well deployed.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by D9ty7(m): 11:28am On Jan 03, 2015
dat9jaguy:


Remember your grandpa and your father also served him when he was Head of State.
Don't bother yourself about me,I'm on course to being who i want to be.


Vote for Buhari.
Well, you are wrong about that. I won't explain to you how they did it, but every right thinking individual will know where I am driving at.
Am glad you have plans for yourself. Hope you won't come back here 2019 to tell us to vote for Buhari sha? No one knows about this campaign that you are doing, it is not even convincing enough.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Demdem(m): 11:33am On Jan 03, 2015
brownlord:
D

Did Obama wait for Americans to petition National secretary of Democratic Party before doing the needful?

For months, Donald Trump was on Obamas head requesting for his birth certificate. Obama had nothing to lose if he shows it publicly has demanded by him but he refused.
Trump went berserk, he continued to talk rubbish while Obama continue to look.
But one day, at a time Obama deemed it fit at his own interest he revealed it and till date trump has nothing to say again.
Brownfool, Buhari isn't bound to showcase his stuff to ur kind. If inec has issues with it, they will disqualify him.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 11:33am On Jan 03, 2015
dat9jaguy:


Why?To satisfy you?The relevant authorities are satisfied,you do your own part by voting
whomsoever you like and stop feeling important.
This reply is on the assumption that you are of voting age.

Vote for Buhari.

An affidavit can not take the place of any certificate but rather is an attestation by the sworn declarant that the certificates are genuine. It is thus left for us who Buhari made that declaration on behalf of to confirm if his claims are true.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Demdem(m): 11:36am On Jan 03, 2015
brownlord:


Do you give your credentials to your employer in your host country? since this issue came up i expect Buhari to do the needful.

Yes, most decent employers have photocopies of their employees credentials while many go an extra mile to confirm such.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Obinoscopy(m): 11:36am On Jan 03, 2015
@Barcanista, even before the source in the military stated that the Military are not in possession of Buhari's Original Credentials, I found that Buhari's statement on his affidavit very strange. Employers are not known to keep certificates of its employees.

However, I know Buhari is a man of integrity and many academic achievements. I don't doubt his credibility for this election. However, it's his responsibility and the responsibility of the party to present his certificates to INEC or if it's missing, they present an affidavit explaining what happened and attach any other form of evidence to back up the affidavit claims (like a police report or sth). Failing to do so might affect him later if legal proceedings are instituted against him.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by dat9jaguy(m): 11:41am On Jan 03, 2015
D9ty7:

Well, you are wrong about that. I won't explain to you how they did it, but every right thinking individual will know where I am driving at.
Am glad you have plans for yourself. Hope you won't come back here 2019 to tell us to vote for Buhari sha? No one knows about this campaign that you are doing, it is not even convincing enough.


I'm not campaigning bro,just showing my preference.

Vote for Buhari.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Demdem(m): 11:41am On Jan 03, 2015
brownlord:


Really, Buhari does not have to explain to him?

Don't you think he and other millions of Nigerians including Buhari's supporters terrified by this deserve to know as Buhari is seeking a public office? Your mentality and reasoning is whacked.

When we demanded that Jonathan should publicly declared his asset the same way Yaradua did, what did ur kind say then?
U said the law didn't say such instead the fool has declared and it's with the CCB.
Using the same logic, no law expects buhari to showcase his certificates to ur miserable kind. grin
Karma surely is a bictch. grin

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Montaque(m): 11:45am On Jan 03, 2015
They don catch GMB for ciki 5. Lol
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by nduchucks: 11:45am On Jan 03, 2015
Obinoscopy:
@Barcanista, even before the source in the military stated that the Military are not in possession of Buhari's Original Credentials, I found that Buhari's statement on his affidavit very strange. Employers are not known to keep certificates of its employees.

However, I know Buhari is a man of integrity and many academic achievements. I don't doubt his credibility for this election. However, it's his responsibility and the responsibility of the party to present his certificates to INEC or if it's missing, they present an affidavit explaining what happened and attach any other form of evidence to back up the affidavit claims (like a police report or sth). Failing to do so might affect him later if legal proceedings are instituted against him.

Your points are well taken.

However, as a practical matter, there are no grounds for any legal proceedings against Buhari on the basis of this affidavit. Buhari has done nothing illegal and neither has INEC. Any related lawsuit will be summarily tossed out as frivolous. If you believe otherwise, let us know what the legal grounds for such a lawsuit would be.

This statement by Attorney General Lai Mohammed is quite instructive.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Demdem(m): 11:46am On Jan 03, 2015
omenka:
What I think is going on is, the General just might be waiting for the propitious time to bury all the lies and deceit of PDP. Like allowing your enemies to nibble at you again and again and again, feigning defeat. Then when they've congregated at the same spot, jubilant over their presumed victory, you drop a nuke right in their centre!!!

It is a Machiavellian strategy.

Apt.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Demdem(m): 11:48am On Jan 03, 2015
brownlord:


Good thinking, not the senseless rant of banicansta as if buhari should not be answerable to Nigerians. I hope he comes out to shun the critics at last, if otherwise Jega and Iwu should be hanged.

Was Jonathan answerable to Nigerians when we demanded the fool should publicly declare his assets the same way Yaradua did?
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by dat9jaguy(m): 11:50am On Jan 03, 2015
PvtParts:


An affidavit can not take the place of any certificate but rather is an attestation by the sworn declarant that the certificates are genuine. It is thus left for us who Buhari made that declaration on behalf of to confirm if his claims are true.

He has made his declaration,the burden of proof is now on you to write to the Secretary,Military Board to either admit or disprove the authenticity
of Buhari's claim.Buhari himself is under no obligation to bring his certificate physically to you.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by LouisVanGaal(m): 11:51am On Jan 03, 2015
Demdem:


For months, Donald Trump was on Obamas head requesting for his birth certificate. Obama had nothing to lose if he shows it publicly has demanded by him but he refused.
Trump went berserk, he continued to talk rubbish while Obama continue to look.
But one day, at a time Obama deemed it fit at his own interest he revealed it and till date trump has nothing to say again.
Brownfool, Buhari isn't bound to showcase his stuff to ur kind. If inec has issues with it, they will disqualify him.
Bros, u r damn right! I remembered that stunt from trump..and Obama played on..until d last minute b4 he released it! Had he released it earlier enuf, trump nd the republicans ud hav quickly jumped to another propaganda to smear his name(obama) b4 that 2008 elections...

So, I guess that's what GMB might be nursing...

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 11:51am On Jan 03, 2015
Obinoscopy:
@Barcanista, even before the source in the military stated that the Military are not in possession of Buhari's Original Credentials, I found that Buhari's statement on his affidavit very strange. Employers are not known to keep certificates of its employees.

However, I know Buhari is a man of integrity and many academic achievements. I don't doubt his credibility for this election. However, it's his responsibility and the responsibility of the party to present his certificates to INEC or if it's missing, they present an affidavit explaining what happened and attach any other form of evidence to back up the affidavit claims (like a police report or sth). Failing to do so might affect him later if legal proceedings are instituted against him.
Bros, the General have sworn affidavit and he was specific with his claim. The so-called source of that thread was who? I can say Obinoscopy is a gay according to an informed source who was once his gay partner (lol kidding). I had expected doubters and enquirers to petition the Defense Headquarters to confirm if truly the documents are with them or not. I appeal to anybody that feels Buhari lied under oath to go to court and compel the AGF to charge him for pejury. However, I am 200% sure that they have no case against Buhari
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by LRNZH(m): 11:51am On Jan 03, 2015
Collynzo9:

Sahara reporters, Premium times and Punch do that all the time to favour APC and you know it! They quote an unknown source and give the article an official headline.
I will dig up examples soon.

Kenai:


- http://saharareporters.com/2014/11/09/boko-haram-releases-new-video-captured-towns-shekau-seen-preaching-locals

- http://saharareporters.com/2014/09/03/boko-haram-takes-over-another-town-yobe

- http://saharareporters.com/2014/11/02/nigeria-detains-military-commanders-abandoning-mubi-boko-haram

Maybe you assume that I will not read through your links. Even Collynzo9 won't present these.

It is obvious you still don't get the clear (but obviously moot to you) point that, I'm making.

Again, a newspaper house can quote sources like Sahara Reporters has done in all three links. But they do not attribute statement to authority.

You cannot interview and insider in an organisation and turn around to claim that his statements represent the views of the organisation, unless he is authorised to speak on the matter. Unlike Vanguard who attributes he statement by a source to the whole Army.

The Military Board official spokesperson is yet to give us an official statement on this matter.

Phew! I hope I don't not to explain this again.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by sammyj: 11:56am On Jan 03, 2015
When the enemies of change are done and tired with their propaganda, we will still go ahead and vote for the change we all are clamoring for rather than the clueless phd holder that has nothing to show for any new development than stealing is not corruption!!!!

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