barcanista:
This thread https://www.nairaland.com/2073341/not-buharis-original-copies-certificates purportedly claimed that the Military denied knowledge of Muhammadu Buhari's certificate with the secretary of the board. On reading the whole article, neither the Director of Military Information nor the Director of Army Information nor any other senior official of the military was quoted. The reporter only reported "according to our source". It begs one to ask this important question "Who is this source?"

The Nigeria Army is not a secret organisation, they have their official spokespeople who are in the best position to ascertain the veracity or otherwise of Muhammadu Buhari's claim. Buhari swore an affidavit to back his claim, it is the responsibility of political opponents and critics to probe further and petition the Nigeria Military board and the Presidency to confirm whether or not the certificates are with the Military. Why all these assassination of the character of the amiable general by some inconsequential elements and never-do-wells? For the record, Buhari or any other Presidential candidate is not mandated by law to display their credentials to the public, political parties are legally mandated to screen their candidates before presenting them to INEC. I am 100% sure that the All Progressive Congress have screened Muhammadu Buhari and have verified his claims before the presenting to INEC. Whoever is in doubt should petition the National Secretariat of APC or should go to court if unsatisfied. No amount of propaganda will deter the nigeria masses from thumb-printing for the general and APC in February.


#God Bless The General

Collynzo9:

You guys are just deceiving and consoling yourselves, there is absolutely no comparison between this and the Obama case.
In this case, he has already sworn an affidavit in court claiming that the certificate is with the military board.
Anything other than what he swore in the affidavit means trouble for him.

Demdem:


Yes ke....
I love it whenever I use Jonathanians words to hit them real hard.
If military misplaced Buhari's credentials, who else should we criticise if not CinC Jonathan himself under whose watch these guys have suddenly become incompetent in all areas. Ordinary paper, they simply can't keep again.

barcanista:
You are just blabbing and hyper emotional. Buhari is under no obligation whatsoever to show you or display his certificates to the media. No way! The law permits his Sponsor (APC) to screen him and they have done that. INEC has come out to tell the world that APC submitted an affidavit of Buhari. Go petition APC or the Military to verify or compel the Attorney General to sue buhari for perjury if yu think he's lying. Again, he isn't mandated to post it to you! No candidate are under such obligation

Montaque:
A private individual can get a fiat from the AG's office after submitting the required documents and receipts. its called private prosecution.
HNY

Collynzo9:

In this particular link presented by that guy, the quoted an unnamed souce.
See the title they gave it
Nigeria detain military commanders
http://saharareporters.com/2014/11/02/nigeria-detains-military-commanders-abandoning-mubi-boko-haram

Check out this one too, they said ''President Jonathan sends PDP governors to beg Obasanjo'' there was no official confirmation that they were sent by GEJ or even went to beg other than what their unnamed source told them
http://saharareporters.com/2014/12/04/president-jonathan-sends-frontline-pdp-governors-beg-most-prominent-critic-obasanjo

LRNZH:


Journalists can give it any title.
To attribute the statement to as a particular person or organisation, especially when they only interacted with unauthorised bodies is the issue here.

Libel is the word my dear.

Again, for the last time. We don't have the position of the Military Board or the Army on this.

barcanista:
Bros, the General have sworn affidavit and he was specific with his claim. The so-called source of that thread was who? I can say Obinoscopy is a gay according to an informed source who was once his gay partner (lol kidding). I had expected doubters and enquirers to petition the Defense Headquarters to confirm if truly the documents are with them or not. I appeal to anybody that feels Buhari lied under oath to go to court and compel the AGF to charge him for pejury. However, I am 200% sure that they have no case against Buhari

Collynzo9:

My point is that you guys do not point out the unprofessionalism when it suits you. Like I said Premium times, Punch, Sahara reporters have used such method SEVERALLY and it has helped in diluting GEJ's popularity, you guys enjoyed it without complaints because it favoured you then. It is hypocrisy.
This is another article by Premiumtimes and Sahara reporters just 2 days ago, January 1st. They tagged Nigeria Army in the title, but as usual it was from an unknown source. I repeat, they do it all the time.
Nigerian Army Dismisses 203 Soldiers After
Secret Night Trial
http://saharareporters.com/2015/01/01/nigerian-army-dismisses-203-soldiers-after-secret-night-trial

LRNZH:

Journalists can give it any title.
To attribute the statement to as a particular person or organisation, especially when they only interacted with unauthorised bodies is the issue here.
Vanguard can claim that investigations show that GMB's cerificates are not with the Miliary. But to claim that the Military has officially confirmed so?
Libel is the word my dear.
Again, for the last time. We don't have the position of the Military Board or the Army on this.

nduchucks:


Lets assume for a minute that a Perjury lawsuit is instituted against Buhari and he loses the case, what is the fine for Perjury? Nothing in the case would be enough to discredit Buhari more than GEJ has already been discredited, nothing in the case gives INEC or any other body the authorization to disqualify him from running for office, or from being removed after he wins.

So you people are simply crying over splilled milk. GEJ is a goner.

agabaI23:
You know I had the same reservation about the article after reading it. I was expecting to see official pronouncement from the military but I did not see any. However, that does not remove much from the veracity of the claim.
Reasons:
1. No establishment, government or private will withhold your original documents for a long time even after retirement. They are your private property.
2. The normal routine for government and private employment is to sight your original while they retain the photocopy. Some go to the issuing organisation to verify.
3. The information most likely came from a military officer who is in the know going by the response but who due to military discipline would not want to be mentioned
4. Even if this was not from the military, barcanista, can you fault the argument?
Be sincere!!!

lekkie073:
diverting the barrel of gun pointed at u. U try. But ur theory holds no water.

Actually on the contrary it isn't. Highly relevant.

How are we sure the document got lost under the present C-in-C?

This is no brainer. Thus wasn't an issue before now when the General contested for earlier elections but suddenly under the current fool in aso rock, some peeps said military may have misplaced it. Use ur brain.

How are we even sure he has any certificate to start with?

He claim he has and with the military. It's up to a week now the military hasn't said anything on the contrary so obviously he has.


GMB is in trouble. He will regret ever deciding to contest this year.

Yes, to u and ur co cocck suckers he is but to the vast majority of Nigerians who desires change, it's simply to keep the killer party busy.

LRNZH:


Collynzo you're not getting me.
Kindky read again



Give me an example where Premium Times or Sahara has attributed statements to persons or organisations just because they interacted with unnamed sources.

barcanista:
Bros, General Buhari made a statement and backed it with court affidavit. The military is there for enquiries by doubters, the opinion of one unnamed source by Vanguard who may be the journalist itself cannot make for the statement of the military. Personally, I believe the general 200%, however, I put it to doubters to petition the NA or the Military if they seek info.

dunkem21:
Dont worry. Things will get clearer on 6th Jan, 2015.

Nigerians will ask the military to show us a copy of the said certificate since the General can not even find a photocopy to clear the air on this very important verification exercise. So the General cannot storm their headquarters and beg demand for the immediate release of his certificate to shame critics instead of watching his political career crumble in his eyes.

Meanwhile, the campaign is on; just as the masses have been helping with funds for his campaign, we will also help him march to the DMI with ...#BringBackBuhariCertificate ..#BBBC placards.

Join us!

mu2sa2:
Many people saying show your certificate are blackheads. The constitution does not even require that a presidential condidate pass school certificate exam. Section 131 sets down the qualifications for a candidate and these include " educated " to at least school certificate "level". So even if a person were to fail school cert exam he can contest. That's why Namadi Sambo did not even submit any certificate to lnec. Buhari has sworn that his certificate is in the custody of the military, anybody who wants to refute him should go and swear to a counter-affidavit in court. Buhari haters either prove that he is not qualified to contest because he is educated to at least school certificate level or they shut up. Btw

Collynzo9:

I haven't seen even the tiniest difference between what vanguard did and what sahara Reporters, Punch and PMtimes do all the time.
We are not with Buhari’s original copies of
certificates — Army

However, against the backdrop of Buhari’s affidavit in court, a military source said ‘’that the Army can not keep anybody’s original certificate because it is the personal property of the owner,’’ adding that such original certificates were only needed at the
point of entry into the service.

Nigerian Army Dismisses 203 Soldiers After secret trial
One of the sacked soldiers, who spoke on
condition of anonymity, said the soldiers were
dismissed for asking for support equipment,
following the army’s plan to convey them in a
tipper for an operation in Bama and Gwoza, two


What is the difference?

The difference is 7up ie very clear for the uninitiated

Vanguard's title is stating that the Army has officially confirmed that it does not have GMB's certificates.

Premium Times is asserting that their investigation shows that 203 soldiers were sacked secretly by the Army.

The first is very very libelous.
The second is debateable from a libel perspective.
Get a legal practitioner's opinion if you still disagree.

Collynzo9:

What does being educated to at least school certificate level mean without a scholl certificate?
You are a clown.
Try again.

barcanista:
Bros, General Buhari made a statement and backed it with court affidavit. The military is there for enquiries by doubters, the opinion of one unnamed source by Vanguard who may be the journalist itself cannot make for the statement of the military. Personally, I believe the general 200%, however, I put it to doubters to petition the NA or the Military if they seek info.

mu2sa2:
You see why I said blocheads. You can educate yourself without even going to any school that's why the constitution says in section 131 "educated " and not "attended school". If you and the people that have brainwashed you are serious, pls go to court and make your counter-affidavit that Buhari is not educated to school cert level. These blockheads, haba!

mu2sa2:
You see why I said blocheads. You can educate yourself without even going to any school that's why the constitution says in section 131 "educated " and not "attended school". If you and the people that have brainwashed you are serious, pls go to court and make your counter-affidavit that Buhari is not educated to school cert level. These blockheads, haba!

Demdem:


Yes ke....
I love it whenever I use Jonathanians words to hit them real hard.
If military misplaced Buhari's credentials, who else should we criticise if not CinC Jonathan himself under whose watch these guys have suddenly become incompetent in all areas. Ordinary paper, they simply can't keep again.

Montaque:
.
Yes,no law has been breached SO FAR . But he must surely need to fulfil section 131(1) of the constitution before he contests. its that serious.
Tell him to act fast,because INEC has a timetable.

Collynzo9:

How can one be educated up to school certificate level without going to school ?

dat9jaguy:


He has made his declaration,the burden of proof is now on you to write to the Secretary,Military Board to either admit or disprove the authenticity
of Buhari's claim.Buhari himself is under no obligation to bring his certificate physically to you.

minister2015:
Some ill-informed Tanoids r asking of GMB's photocopoies of his credentials, not knowing that photocopies can't replace original certs only a court affidavit can. PDP owns the military, but the military has not denied it. By the way, what is the heck about degree! Patience J has one, yet even a secondary sch. student in ur village speaks better english than PEJ. Which university did J. ZUMA of south africa attend?

Demdem:


So far that section has been fulfilled by virtue of the sworn affidavit. Inec so far has gotten any objection to it. So I ask u, what do u know that Inec doesn't?