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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by kayalla(f): 9:14am On Jan 05, 2015
if everybody else is afraid to say the truth atleast someone has the guts to, “There are more than 30 million Catholics in Nigeria, Fr Mbaka is just one Catholic, if he makes a statement, it cannot be the voices of more than 30 million Nigerian Catholics speaking. they re either blinded by corruption of bribery or fear of the unkwon.
“But, like I said, Mbaka is a priest of his own type. If he was in my archdioceses, I will have sanctioned him long ago for the kind of things and utterances that he makes. But, he is not under my diocese; he has a Bishop to handle that if there is any need,” the Cardinal observed. yeah so why re u bothered?

its high time someone spoke.
when the going is good no one complains when the truth is spoken they start running like headless chicken cos they don't want to loose their source of corrupt income.

u guys should take a chill pill
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by Nobody: 9:15am On Jan 05, 2015
softnipples:

4gerrit dear! Just imagine why he did what he did! Mbaka claimed that he asked the first lady for her number and she refused. That could be the reason why he made those silly comments againt the president. Nonsense!!!
Ehn. I know, but calling him mad is totally uncalled for.
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by Nobody: 9:15am On Jan 05, 2015
funkiebully:


Thank u.

I am a Catholic too and I know Catholic church always desist from being partisan.

How do u reconcile fr mbaka's statements from d altar to a crowd of both pdp n apc supporters.

Very embarrassing.

The Catholic church pulled from CAN bc of oritsejafor's politicization of CAN so nobody will now say Catholic church is supporting GEJ now.

The church has always criticized bad governance But will never ask members to vote for a particular person or party
you can imagine APC people now calling the bible because of fr mbaka utterances. Smh

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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by chimerase2: 9:16am On Jan 05, 2015
I was even suprised to see this comment from father mbaka despite what he did late last year
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by BlackHuman(m): 9:16am On Jan 05, 2015
OH! Fr.Mbaka, I love you so much....may d lord continue to strenghten ur ministry.

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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by BlackHuman(m): 9:18am On Jan 05, 2015
He's man Of God.....Unlike those who recieved brown envelopes. Infact, he reminds me of some great prophets of the bible.

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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by ebube89(f): 9:21am On Jan 05, 2015
THIS IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCHES STANCE ON POLITICS AND CAN

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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by Nobody: 9:27am On Jan 05, 2015
The cardinal must be drunk or something. undecided Had it been that Oyedepo or Adeboye of Winners satellite and Redeem made similar statement like Mbaka did,I know that nobody would call for their heads. The priest spoke his mind,so what's the hue and cry for? And also saying that he was paid 850million to campaign agains Gej is an absolute balderdash...I mean,who believes that?

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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by funkiebully: 9:28am On Jan 05, 2015
customized13:
you can imagine APC people now calling the bible because of fr mbaka utterances. Smh

Hahahaha,

When an alfa starts quoting Bible He believes is adulterated Just to prove to u muhammed is a true prophet, u need to be on d alert.

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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by Hedybee(f): 9:33am On Jan 05, 2015
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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by loyce2015(f): 9:33am On Jan 05, 2015
fr mbaka shouldnt have made such comment

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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by Nobody: 9:34am On Jan 05, 2015
I don't xpect anything less from the pdp pastopreneur#change2015 is inevitable!
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by Rawani: 9:34am On Jan 05, 2015
kokoA:
I love the response from the Bishop of Jos diocese "there wa no uproar when the same Mbaka assured the first lady of continuity"... So much wisdom in that reply grin Why the double standard now?

Did you notice the way the biased report downplayed that statement and simply reported his opinion in the third-person? That report is obviously skewed.
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by arsetalks(m): 9:35am On Jan 05, 2015
JANK23H:

The truth as you see it. Your truth may not be my truth,because you have an opinion doesn't make it the truth.
Will it help if we take the allegations one after the other and refute or confirm them?

Firs - Has there been more killing at anytime than this?

Dismiss that claim.

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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by Reptyle(m): 9:37am On Jan 05, 2015
TeaParty:


More troubles appear to be staring the controversial Catholic Priest and Founder of Adoration Ministry, Enugu Catholic Archdiocese, Rev. Fr Ejike Mbaka, in the face following his statement urging Nigerians to reject President Goodluck Jonathan of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) and vote for Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (rtd ) of the All Progressives Congress (APC) in the February 14 presidential election.

Speaking to THISDAY in an exclusive interview, the Catholic Bishop of Abuja Metropolitan See, Cardinal John Onaiyekan, said given the rules of the church, Fr. Mbaka ought to be sanctioned.

This came as Onaiyekan cautioned the PDP and opposition, All Progressives Congress (APC) to desist from campaigns of calumny.

He  stated that prophecies of doom  ahead of 2015 elections notwithstanding, “PDP and APC have no right to disorganise Nigeria.”

Onaiyekan,  commenting on Fr  Mbaka, said the priest went overboard in his statement insinuating that President Jonathan’s administration has been plagued with ‘bad luck’ and poor performance.

Onaiyekan distanced the Catholic Church from Mbaka’s statement,  stating that, “Mbaka will take responsibilities for his own actions. I do not believe in my mind that the way things are in Nigeria, any Catholic priest has the mandate to decide which of the political contestants should be voted for. What most of us will do is to tell people to vote according to their conscience and then, we tell the authorities to allow people to vote freely and fairly.


“I wouldn’t be surprised if most people are not happy with the statement he made. From my reactions, you should see that I do not agree with him. I don’t believe a priest should be doing that.

“But, like I said, Mbaka is a priest of his own type. If he was in my archdioceses, I will have sanctioned him long ago for the kind of things and utterances that he makes. But, he is not under my diocese; he has a Bishop to handle that if there is any need,” the Cardinal observed.


Onaiyekan, rather maintained that Mbaka had earlier made insinuations  that President Jonathan’s wife, Mrs. Patience Jonathan, will continue in office.
“I hope that people are not thinking that we are sending Mbaka to talk rubbish, how can they think that? If you want to hear anything even not official but at least, authoritative, then, you listen to the bishops. Rather than him and I don’t see any bishop talking that way.”

Meanwhile, President of the Catholic Bishops Conference of Nigeria (CBCN), Archbishop Ignatius Kaigama, said Nigerians should avoid hasty generalisation, as the statement of one Catholic priest cannot be taken to represent the voices of more than 30 million Catholics in Nigeria.

Kaigama told THISDAY that though Mbaka could not have been speaking for the Nigerian Catholic Church, Nigerians should avoid making unguided statements and hasty generalisation on national issues like the 2015 general election.

“There are more than 30 million Catholics in Nigeria, Fr Mbaka is just one Catholic, if he makes a statement, it cannot be the voices of more than 30 million Nigerian Catholics speaking.

“So Nigerians should avoid hasty generalisation. Mbaka cannot speak for the church, only the CBCN can speak for the church. Those who are complaining, should go to Fr Mbaka and find out why he is saying what he is saying,” Kaigama said.

The CBCN President informed THISDAY that it is completely out of place for a Catholic priest to be partisan.

“I tell you,  even the Canon Law forbid a priest  to engage in partisan politics,” Kaigama told THISDAY.

Asked if there would be punitive measures meted out to Mbaka, Kaigama said:  “If the law has  been abused, we will ensure that we enforce the law. In this case, it is not the Catholic church; the church did not send him to say those things.

“Mbaka belongs to a diocese, so if the Bishop finds out that he has fallen out of line, the  Bishop can call him to order,” he said.

“Mbaka is just expressing his opinion, if we want to make a political statement, we know how to do it. That we keep quiet and  we are  marginalised, does not mean we don’t have strength. With more than 30 million Catholics,  we  have the  strength,” Kaigama submitted.

The Archbishop of Jos argued that there was no public uproar when the same Mbaka assured the first lady of continuity.

Fr. Mbaka has come under intense condemnation following his sermon last week, lampooning Jonathan’s administration for poor performance.

His  comment had elicited public outcry, especially, among the teeming Catholic population in South-east and South-south parts of the country where President Jonathan has a strong support base. http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/i-ll-sanction-mbaka-if-he-s-under-my-diocese-says-onaiyekan/198424/

The bolded statements above tell me what I need to know about the boldness displayed by Reverend Mbaka in his volte face grin grin grin

The truth is that no priest of the catholic church will speak so boldly without the support, tacit or direct, of the senior clergy.

Impossicant!!!
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by Nobody: 9:39am On Jan 05, 2015
Mbaka has done what many could not do, bravery and intergrity are not easy things to come by. As relating to what this bishop is stating, he should not also forget that in the bible, prophets cautioned kings and princes. If they don't fore warn us and we fall to chaos, then tell me why we pay tithes, offerings and donations for their sustenance. If mbaka was partisan he surely would have backed those that came to bribe him, afterall patience was the one with him the last we checked not buhari or tinubu or any apc affliated agencies. Please nigerians should support and encourage this kind of characters and not castigate them, else we fall to utter ruin.
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by chamboy(m): 9:39am On Jan 05, 2015
customized13:
wisdom is when you say the right thing at the right time. I am from a family of chronic catholics but I won't support this man when he tries to canvass votes for an Islamic extremist.

He's not speaking for all catholics, period.
u messed up ur quote with ur last statement
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by Nobody: 9:41am On Jan 05, 2015
chamboy:
u messed up ur quote with ur last statement
is he speaking for all catholics?
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by Nobody: 9:42am On Jan 05, 2015
I prefer u hate me for d truth than love for lies! Thumbs up fr mbaka...#change2015!
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by saintandsinnerz: 9:43am On Jan 05, 2015
kayalla:
if everybody else is afraid to say the truth atleast someone has the guts to, “There are more than 30 million Catholics in Nigeria, Fr Mbaka is just one Catholic, if he makes a statement, it cannot be the voices of more than 30 million Nigerian Catholics speaking. they re either blinded by corruption of bribery or fear of the unkwon.
“But, like I said, Mbaka is a priest of his own type. If he was in my archdioceses, I will have sanctioned him long ago for the kind of things and utterances that he makes. But, he is not under my diocese; he has a Bishop to handle that if there is any need,” the Cardinal observed. yeah so why re u bothered?

its high time someone spoke.
when the going is good no one complains when the truth is spoken they start running like headless chicken cos they don't want to loose their source of corrupt income.

u guys should take a chill pill

It is you that should take a chill pill! How can you support a man who in November endorsed the Goodluck's administration and barely one month after, he started lambasting the same GEJ administration for poor performance and asked people not to vote for him. If you look at it very well it maybe that money exchanged hands. He is a priest for Christ sake
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by arsetalks(m): 9:44am On Jan 05, 2015
HzRF:


Really Christians have nothing to fear under sharia
No second. Chance after a mistake
Got ur hand chopped off or get castrated

If buahri haven't display his bigotry
He doesn't need to try and penetrate RCCG... Rolling with pastors, taking photos at church just to make up
You mean if PDP and some of you shallow minded people who refuse to carry out a simple research had not painted him black unjustly?

Talking about bigotry, can you please tell us why you are against Buhari? Maybe then we will come to terms with who is a bigot between you both.
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by chizzypie: 9:44am On Jan 05, 2015
TeaParty:


More troubles appear to be staring the controversial Catholic Priest and Founder of Adoration Ministry, Enugu Catholic Archdiocese, Rev. Fr Ejike Mbaka, in the face following his statement urging Nigerians to reject President Goodluck Jonathan of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) and vote for Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (rtd ) of the All Progressives Congress (APC) in the February 14 presidential election.

Speaking to THISDAY in an exclusive interview, the Catholic Bishop of Abuja Metropolitan See, Cardinal John Onaiyekan, said given the rules of the church, Fr. Mbaka ought to be sanctioned.

This came as Onaiyekan cautioned the PDP and opposition, All Progressives Congress (APC) to desist from campaigns of calumny.

He  stated that prophecies of doom  ahead of 2015 elections notwithstanding, “PDP and APC have no right to disorganise Nigeria.”

Onaiyekan,  commenting on Fr  Mbaka, said the priest went overboard in his statement insinuating that President Jonathan’s administration has been plagued with ‘bad luck’ and poor performance.

Onaiyekan distanced the Catholic Church from Mbaka’s statement,  stating that, “Mbaka will take responsibilities for his own actions. I do not believe in my mind that the way things are in Nigeria, any Catholic priest has the mandate to decide which of the political contestants should be voted for. What most of us will do is to tell people to vote according to their conscience and then, we tell the authorities to allow people to vote freely and fairly.


“I wouldn’t be surprised if most people are not happy with the statement he made. From my reactions, you should see that I do not agree with him. I don’t believe a priest should be doing that.

“But, like I said, Mbaka is a priest of his own type. If he was in my archdioceses, I will have sanctioned him long ago for the kind of things and utterances that he makes. But, he is not under my diocese; he has a Bishop to handle that if there is any need,” the Cardinal observed.


Onaiyekan, rather maintained that Mbaka had earlier made insinuations  that President Jonathan’s wife, Mrs. Patience Jonathan, will continue in office.
“I hope that people are not thinking that we are sending Mbaka to talk rubbish, how can they think that? If you want to hear anything even not official but at least, authoritative, then, you listen to the bishops. Rather than him and I don’t see any bishop talking that way.”

Meanwhile, President of the Catholic Bishops Conference of Nigeria (CBCN), Archbishop Ignatius Kaigama, said Nigerians should avoid hasty generalisation, as the statement of one Catholic priest cannot be taken to represent the voices of more than 30 million Catholics in Nigeria.

Kaigama told THISDAY that though Mbaka could not have been speaking for the Nigerian Catholic Church, Nigerians should avoid making unguided statements and hasty generalisation on national issues like the 2015 general election.

“There are more than 30 million Catholics in Nigeria, Fr Mbaka is just one Catholic, if he makes a statement, it cannot be the voices of more than 30 million Nigerian Catholics speaking.

“So Nigerians should avoid hasty generalisation. Mbaka cannot speak for the church, only the CBCN can speak for the church. Those who are complaining, should go to Fr Mbaka and find out why he is saying what he is saying,” Kaigama said.

The CBCN President informed THISDAY that it is completely out of place for a Catholic priest to be partisan.

“I tell you,  even the Canon Law forbid a priest  to engage in partisan politics,” Kaigama told THISDAY.

Asked if there would be punitive measures meted out to Mbaka, Kaigama said:  “If the law has  been abused, we will ensure that we enforce the law. In this case, it is not the Catholic church; the church did not send him to say those things.

“Mbaka belongs to a diocese, so if the Bishop finds out that he has fallen out of line, the  Bishop can call him to order,” he said.

“Mbaka is just expressing his opinion, if we want to make a political statement, we know how to do it. That we keep quiet and  we are  marginalised, does not mean we don’t have strength. With more than 30 million Catholics,  we  have the  strength,” Kaigama submitted.

The Archbishop of Jos argued that there was no public uproar when the same Mbaka assured the first lady of continuity.

Fr. Mbaka has come under intense condemnation following his sermon last week, lampooning Jonathan’s administration for poor performance.

His  comment had elicited public outcry, especially, among the teeming Catholic population in South-east and South-south parts of the country where President Jonathan has a strong support base. http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/i-ll-sanction-mbaka-if-he-s-under-my-diocese-says-onaiyekan/198424/

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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by uzolexis(f): 9:45am On Jan 05, 2015
vanndubi:
This u-turn message really touched some ppl bone. Wonders shall never end, catholic priest denying their own.

Bishops around the country were interviewed expect that of Enugu dioceses. I'll be waiting for his own comment.

They r not denying him, they didn't say they don't know him did they?? They r just saying he expressed his personal opinion and he's not speaking for all Catholics wc to me is d reasonable thing 2 do.
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by Crossbelt(m): 9:50am On Jan 05, 2015
Hmmmn i smell truth in what he [Rev.fr. mbaka] said but the truth is better.
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by kayalla(f): 9:51am On Jan 05, 2015
saintandsinnerz:


It is you that should take a chill pill! How can you support a man who in November endorsed the Goodluck's administration and barely one month after, he started lambasting the same GEJ administration for poor performance and asked people not to vote for him. If you look at it very well it maybe that money exchanged hands. He is a priest for Christ sake
yeah, probably GEJ didn't do as he promised. during election them loins become mouse and after election they grow claws and vampire teeth.

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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by Anglovel: 9:52am On Jan 05, 2015
slap1:
Mbaka shouldn't have taken sides with anyone. He should have criticized the government and leave it at that.
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by tuborme: 9:54am On Jan 05, 2015
teemanbastos:
hmmm.. In weeks time,all this go end...
But dis is trash..wen Mbaka was blessing Jonathan and wife weeks ago..why didnt the man say he will sanction Mbaka?! And now he spoke THE TRUTH?
Indeed the Truth is bitter

To me this is a biased statement.

#Buhari/Osinbajo.

he said he would have sanctioned him long ago....read and understand before you criticise
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by kokoA(m): 9:54am On Jan 05, 2015
Rawani:


Did you notice the way the biased report downplayed that statement and simply reported his opinion in the third-person? That report is obviously skewed.
The most annoying thing is Nigerians usually don't read in-between the lines.. Only a careful and objective reader will notice.
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by Anglovel: 9:54am On Jan 05, 2015
ratiken:
Only a fool will believe Mbaka is a man of God.
The story is now very clear to any sane mind

In November, he declared GEJ the best president ever. He expected some compensation from the presidency for the campaign and none was forth coming. He tried calling PEJ but could not reach her either.

That was the reason he had to go against GEJ from his alter believing that is the sure way to get the presidency's attention.

Am sorry, But Mbaka is no man of God and holy spirit never ministered to him. He's just after his pocket at the election period.
Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by uzolexis(f): 9:56am On Jan 05, 2015
nduchucks:
Abuja is the epicenter of corruption so one should not be surprised that the good Bishop, Onaiyekan, may have been compromised.

Onaiyekan has criticised d present administration several times but he has not campaigned 4 any party that's d difference.

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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by uzolexis(f): 9:58am On Jan 05, 2015
omololu2020:
30milion catholics in Nigeria,dis bishops are liers let dem ask for forgiveness.yeye dey smell

They r not lieing, there r 30million catholics if not more in Nigeria tongue , my parish alone has over a million members

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Re: I’ll Sanction Mbaka If He’s Under My Diocese, Says Onaiyekan by LuckyLadolce(m): 9:59am On Jan 05, 2015
customized13:
why is the rev fr a double mouthed fellow?
Is he trying to tell us that God is confused?
welll, if i must agree with u, it has to be on the ground that, none of the two statements ought not to av been uttered by a priest. Not only the one spoken against jonathan.

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