uzolexis:


They r not lieing, there r 30million catholics if not more in Nigeria , my parish alone has over a million members

The one in France?

when the grace of thy LORD is finish upon a man life,he his finish

arsetalks:
You mean if PDP and some of you shallow minded people who refuse to carry out a simple research had not painted him black unjustly?

Talking about bigotry, can you please tell us why you are against Buhari? Maybe then we will come to terms with who is a bigot between you both.

Haha see daftness at itz peak

Buhari was painted unjustly?

Sharia must go national in a secular country

An attack on bh is an attack on Muslims in North

Travelling all the way from daura to ibadan to say You are killing my pple

Muslims vote for Muslims

My fans only lynched pdp that rig the election, the same area where underage voting was carried out as evident in the last post of 1 of the corpers that was killed blessed memory (RIP to them all)
E. t. c.. U can see if ur already leached brain will allow you to. That u have been brainwashed upon all this he's painted unjustly

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CFCfan:

The one in France?

Lol....Noo, the on in Saudi Arabia

Happy new year dear

customized13:
My point too, how can a man of God be a chronic partisan.
Smh for Christian race in nigeria, no wonder our pastors are the richest in the world.

Thank God the Man is not under Him

TeaParty:


More troubles appear to be staring the controversial Catholic Priest and Founder of Adoration Ministry, Enugu Catholic Archdiocese, Rev. Fr Ejike Mbaka, in the face following his statement urging Nigerians to reject President Goodluck Jonathan of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) and vote for Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (rtd ) of the All Progressives Congress (APC) in the February 14 presidential election.

Speaking to THISDAY in an exclusive interview, the Catholic Bishop of Abuja Metropolitan See, Cardinal John Onaiyekan, said given the rules of the church, Fr. Mbaka ought to be sanctioned.

This came as Onaiyekan cautioned the PDP and opposition, All Progressives Congress (APC) to desist from campaigns of calumny.

He  stated that prophecies of doom  ahead of 2015 elections notwithstanding, “PDP and APC have no right to disorganise Nigeria.”

Onaiyekan,  commenting on Fr  Mbaka, said the priest went overboard in his statement insinuating that President Jonathan’s administration has been plagued with ‘bad luck’ and poor performance.

Onaiyekan distanced the Catholic Church from Mbaka’s statement,  stating that, “Mbaka will take responsibilities for his own actions. I do not believe in my mind that the way things are in Nigeria, any Catholic priest has the mandate to decide which of the political contestants should be voted for. What most of us will do is to tell people to vote according to their conscience and then, we tell the authorities to allow people to vote freely and fairly.


“I wouldn’t be surprised if most people are not happy with the statement he made. From my reactions, you should see that I do not agree with him. I don’t believe a priest should be doing that.

“But, like I said, Mbaka is a priest of his own type. If he was in my archdioceses, I will have sanctioned him long ago for the kind of things and utterances that he makes. But, he is not under my diocese; he has a Bishop to handle that if there is any need,” the Cardinal observed.


Onaiyekan, rather maintained that Mbaka had earlier made insinuations  that President Jonathan’s wife, Mrs. Patience Jonathan, will continue in office.
“I hope that people are not thinking that we are sending Mbaka to talk rubbish, how can they think that? If you want to hear anything even not official but at least, authoritative, then, you listen to the bishops. Rather than him and I don’t see any bishop talking that way.”

Meanwhile, President of the Catholic Bishops Conference of Nigeria (CBCN), Archbishop Ignatius Kaigama, said Nigerians should avoid hasty generalisation, as the statement of one Catholic priest cannot be taken to represent the voices of more than 30 million Catholics in Nigeria.

Kaigama told THISDAY that though Mbaka could not have been speaking for the Nigerian Catholic Church, Nigerians should avoid making unguided statements and hasty generalisation on national issues like the 2015 general election.

“There are more than 30 million Catholics in Nigeria, Fr Mbaka is just one Catholic, if he makes a statement, it cannot be the voices of more than 30 million Nigerian Catholics speaking.

“So Nigerians should avoid hasty generalisation. Mbaka cannot speak for the church, only the CBCN can speak for the church. Those who are complaining, should go to Fr Mbaka and find out why he is saying what he is saying,” Kaigama said.

The CBCN President informed THISDAY that it is completely out of place for a Catholic priest to be partisan.

“I tell you,  even the Canon Law forbid a priest  to engage in partisan politics,” Kaigama told THISDAY.

Asked if there would be punitive measures meted out to Mbaka, Kaigama said:  “If the law has  been abused, we will ensure that we enforce the law. In this case, it is not the Catholic church; the church did not send him to say those things.

“Mbaka belongs to a diocese, so if the Bishop finds out that he has fallen out of line, the  Bishop can call him to order,” he said.

“Mbaka is just expressing his opinion, if we want to make a political statement, we know how to do it. That we keep quiet and  we are  marginalised, does not mean we don’t have strength. With more than 30 million Catholics,  we  have the  strength,” Kaigama submitted.

The Archbishop of Jos argued that there was no public uproar when the same Mbaka assured the first lady of continuity.

Fr. Mbaka has come under intense condemnation following his sermon last week, lampooning Jonathan’s administration for poor performance.

His  comment had elicited public outcry, especially, among the teeming Catholic population in South-east and South-south parts of the country where President Jonathan has a strong support base. http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/i-ll-sanction-mbaka-if-he-s-under-my-diocese-says-onaiyekan/198424/

if that is d case why CAN president sport Anything PDP nd his jet have being used to buy arms why

uzolexis:


Lol....Noo, the on in Saudi Arabia

Happy new year dear

I wish u the same, dear
Stay safe in Saudi Arabia

Thank God the man is not under you

teemanbastos:
hmmm.. In weeks time,all this go end...
But dis is trash..wen Mbaka was blessing Jonathan and wife weeks ago..why didnt the man say he will sanction Mbaka?! And now he spoke THE TRUTH?
Indeed the Truth is bitter

To me this is a biased statement.

#Buhari/Osinbajo.

If he had opened up and threaten to sanction Father Mbaka then he would have earned his respect and honor but it's when he is against the ruling Government he is now talking, the fact is that did Father Mbaka lied about the state of the Nation?

customized13:
you can imagine APC people now calling the bible because of fr mbaka utterances. Smh

Are you saying APC don't have Christians and Catholics.

You people once made REV MBAKA your authority, and when he makes comments you don't like you all denounce him.
You're like the proverbial Israelite with itching ears.
I know Mbaka comments hurts you people alot.Sorry.
Next time stop believing men including President GEJ.

Na lie u no fit. so somebody cannot air his views again in this country? I will sanction Onayiakan if he is under my parish too.

kokoA:
I love the response from the Bishop of Jos diocese "there wa no uproar when the same Mbaka assured the first lady of continuity"... So much wisdom in that reply Why the double standard now?

There was no uproar then because Mbaka, a Christian, was speaking good of a fellow Christian. The uproar now is majorly because he as a Christian is indirectly supporting a muslim against a fellow Christian.

That Spirit that has been ruling over Nigeria, seeing that its end is near has been struggling, yeah struggling, not to concede defeat. God is NOW fully ready to take over, to crush it finally. That same spirit, in an attempt to avoid/delay defeat, is now using all available arsenal/weaponll (deceit, lie, killings, fear, impatience, frustration, etc) indiscriminately. God named that spirit "ANTICHRIST". It is everywhere even in the CHURCH!!! God says He will crush it. I am aware of this fact and I have peace. GOD IS IN CONTROL. Don't Argue. Find Out yourself.

HzRF:

Haha see daftness at itz peak

Buhari was painted unjustly?

Sharia must go national in a secular country

An attack on bh is an attack on Muslims in North

Travelling all the way from daura to ibadan to say You are killing my pple

Muslims vote for Muslims

My fans only lynched pdp that rig the election, the same area where underage voting was carried out as evident in the last post of 1 of the corpers that was killed blessed memory (RIP to them all)
E. t. c.. U can see if ur already leached brain will allow you to. That u have been brainwashed upon all this he's painted unjustly

I won't call you names but let's take this allegations one after the other.

Can you provide a link to where he said an attack on boko haram is an attack on muslims in the north?

Let's do it one after the other please.

And please note that the onus lies on you to proof these allegations so don't tell me to Google anything, thats a weak way out.

arsetalks:
One would think the so called Bishops will come out and refute the allegations Father Mbaka made one by one.

Was he making point or not? Do the congregation agree or not? No wonder he is known as controversial. In Nigeria, you are termed controversial if you say the truth and refuse to dance to the gallery.

Hw do you classify what he said as the truth, how do you trust a man the is two faced. just weeks after assuring GEJ presidency now he move to GMB this sounds like 1 Of asari`s script. if it was FFK that did this people will say APC don pay am, MBAKA has been more of a politician than a priest since his Chimaroke days. MY PEOPLE SAY NO TO RELIGION TO BE SAVED, same week WINNERS general overseer told us to kill the' ISLAMIC TERRORIST' a lot of people can interpret that in a different way which one of could be kill all 'MUSLIMS' the power of words, u religious folks know what I mean.

Onaiyekan distanced the Catholic Church from Mbaka’s statement, stating that, “Mbaka will take responsibilities for his own actions. I do not believe in my mind that the way things are in Nigeria, any Catholic priest has the mandate to decide which of the political contestants should be voted for. What most of us will do is to tell people to vote according to their conscience and then, we tell the authorities to allow people to vote freely and fairly.

I agree with the highlighted but Nigeria is a place that even if a sitting president of ANY party "mistakenly" allows people to vote according to their conscience freely and fairly, election results will most likely be tampered with WITH IMPUNITY and nothing will happen as the FG has the might of the foolish rank and file police and army to shoot to kill any dissenting "commoner".

Fayose 9 days ago advocated using the Police and Army to win the Presidential Elections and he also stated that these elections are do or die and has told the SW PDP meeting blatantly to ignore the Governorship elections and focus squarely on winning the Presidential polls at all cost including using bribery of the Oba's and using students, the army and police to ensure Jonathan wins and once this happens they can then announce any result they want in the governorship elections. Mimiko agreed with him that the Oba's are hungry anyway and open to being bribed and Fayose further added that PDP can not afford to lose the Presidential elections and by implication lose power over the Army and Police which in Fayose's eyes are the perks and Power of PDP holding on to the Presidency.
http://saharareporters.com/2015/01/02/governor-fayose-explodes-presidential-contest-do-or-die-affair-advocates-use-policearmy

Factor in Bakare's submission on 4/1/15 that 50 to 70% of some rural voters will not vote as they have no PVC and in some cases their PVC's have been hijacked. Also, add the mysterious reduction (millions reduced) in the no of eligible voters in Lagos and you'll see that the stage is set for the mother of all manipulation of election results. The elections may "seem" free and fair but I doubt if the announced manufactured results will be free and fair.

Fr Mbaka is surely on his own.

[quote author=TeaParty post=29501351]

More troubles appear to be staring the controversial Catholic Priest and Founder of Adoration Ministry, Enugu Catholic Archdiocese, Rev. Fr Ejike Mbaka, in the face following his statement urging Nigerians to reject President Goodluck Jonathan of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) and vote for Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (rtd ) of the All Progressives Congress (APC) in the February 14 presidential election.

Speaking to THISDAY in an exclusive interview, the Catholic Bishop of Abuja Metropolitan See, Cardinal John Onaiyekan, said given the rules of the church, Fr. Mbaka ought to be sanctioned.

This came as Onaiyekan cautioned the PDP and opposition, All Progressives Congress (APC) to desist from campaigns of calumny.

He  stated that prophecies of doom  ahead of 2015 elections notwithstanding, “PDP and APC have no right to disorganise Nigeria.”

Onaiyekan,  commenting on Fr  Mbaka, said the priest went overboard in his statement insinuating that President Jonathan’s administration has been plagued with ‘bad luck’ and poor performance.

Onaiyekan distanced the Catholic Church from Mbaka’s statement,  stating that, “Mbaka will take responsibilities for his own actions. I do not believe in my mind that the way things are in Nigeria, any Catholic priest has the mandate to decide which of the political contestants should be voted for. What most of us will do is to tell people to vote according to their conscience and then, we tell the authorities to allow people to vote freely and fairly.


“I wouldn’t be surprised if most people are not happy with the statement he made. From my reactions, you should see that I do not agree with him. I don’t believe a priest should be doing that.

“But, like I said, Mbaka is a priest of his own type. If he was in my archdioceses, I will have sanctioned him long ago for the kind of things and utterances that he makes. But, he is not under my diocese; he has a Bishop to handle that if there is any need,” the Cardinal observed.


Onaiyekan, rather maintained that Mbaka had earlier made insinuations  that President Jonathan’s wife, Mrs. Patience Jonathan, will continue in office.
“I hope that people are not thinking that we are sending Mbaka to talk rubbish, how can they think that? If you want to hear anything even not official but at least, authoritative, then, you listen to the bishops. Rather than him and I don’t see any bishop talking that way.”

Meanwhile, President of the Catholic Bishops Conference of Nigeria (CBCN), Archbishop Ignatius Kaigama, said Nigerians should avoid hasty generalisation, as the statement of one Catholic priest cannot be taken to represent the voices of more than 30 million Catholics in Nigeria.

Kaigama told THISDAY that though Mbaka could not have been speaking for the Nigerian Catholic Church, Nigerians should avoid making unguided statements and hasty generalisation on national issues like the 2015 general election.

“There are more than 30 million Catholics in Nigeria, Fr Mbaka is just one Catholic, if he makes a statement, it cannot be the voices of more than 30 million Nigerian Catholics speaking.










“Mbaka is just expressing his opinion, if we want to make a political statement, we know how to do it. That we keep quiet and  we are  marginalised, does not mean we don’t have strength. With more than 30 million Catholics,  we  have the  strength,” Kaigama submitted.



30millions Catholics... Only in. Nigeria...
Big Lie
Iro nla


How many Members did RCCG, Living Faith, Chosen, Christ Embassy, Ecwa, Cocin, Baptist churches, CAC, C & S, Apostolic, Anglican, Celestial church of christ, ETC. Have' in Last Census, Nigeria was Over 160millions, if only Catholic gather 30millions members, den de rest totally will get up 100millions b dat + 30millions Catholics, which means Christians are abwt 130millions out of 160 in Nigeria...


Lol
Sir' Try again
We are not kids

arsetalks:
I won't call you names but let's take this allegations one after the other.

Can you provide a link to where he said an attack on boko haram is an attack on muslims in the north?

Let's do it one after the other please.

And please note that the onus lies on you to proof these allegations so don't tell me to Google anything, thats a weak way out.

www.thisdaylive.com/articles/buhari-military-offensive-against-boko-haram-anti-north/149256/

http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/stop-killing-boko-haram-members-buhari-tells-fg/

U want more

customized13:
wisdom is when you say the right thing at the right time. I am from a family of chronic catholics but I won't support this man when he tries to canvass votes for an Islamic extremist.

He's not speaking for all catholics, period.

Where in his speech did he claim he was speaking for all Catholic?! He said "God through the Holy Spirit told him to tell His people this and that" or are you saying Mbaka is lying and that he is no more a man of God? Or because the message he was given should not be delivered because it's against the president? John the Baptist and co did the same thing.

He spoke for Jonathan earlier most of u didn't shout and now that he has another message u guys are complaining! Why is he being condemned for boldly doing what most of us are too afraid to attempt?

His JOB FUNCTIONS AS A PASTOR IS TO TELL PEOPLE THE MIND OF GOD and that is what he did. He said "God said ………" . He didn't claim the message as his own.

Men of God condemning him should first tell us that Mbaka is not a man of God then we will understand their complaints.

customized13:
My point too, how can a man of God be a chronic partisan.
Smh for Christian race in nigeria, no wonder our pastors are the richest in the world.

The man's arguments are probably similar to the one used by the papacy to salve its conscience when Hitler began his purges and persecution.

We do not deny we're in a state of war, the govt concedes that much. Hundreds are kidnapped, raped, plundered and killed daily in the north and elsewhere and the current govt appears unwilling or incapable (maybe both) to do something. Doesnt the church owe a duty to humanity to seek for change from this earthly turmoil?

This is even rank hypocrisy . Pastor adeboye just declared war on "islamists" and the north as far as 2015 elections are concerned.

But then, the church of today is not the church of christ. Its the church of money and power.

HzRF:


www.thisdaylive.com/articles/buhari-military-offensive-against-boko-haram-anti-north/149256/

http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/exclusive/stop-killing-boko-haram-members-buhari-tells-fg/

U want more

Nice Try. I read through both links, no where did he say boko haram members should not be prosecuted? Or is here? He merely asked for the same treated given to the Asari Dokubo ( GEJ's best friend ) and his miscreants to be given to the miscreants in he north.

Is that a wrong call.

gerald09:

Hw do you classify what he said as the truth, how do you trust a man the is two faced. just weeks after assuring GEJ presidency now he move to GMB this sounds like 1 Of asari`s script. if it was FFK that did this people will say APC don pay am, MBAKA has been more of a politician than a priest since his Chimaroke days. MY PEOPLE SAY NO TO RELIGION TO BE SAVED, same week WINNERS general overseer told us to kill the' ISLAMIC TERRORIST' a lot of people can interpret that in a different way which one of could be kill all 'MUSLIMS' the power of words, u religious folks know what I mean.

I am not the type that uses questions to answer another but I am sorry, let me ask you these questions :

1. Are there more killings in GEJ era than any other era?

2. Is corruption been rewarded or not?

3. Has our currency become a junk or not under GEJ?

4. Did the first 5 years of GEJ administration enjoy oil boom in the world market or not?

Answer me these questions. Let's educate each other. I am giving myself an off day as I am my own boss so I have time for nairaland today. Oya let's roll.

VoteOutPDPJona:
Canon law or no canon law, Fr Mbaka followed the dictates of his spirit.

Better please God and displease man than vice versa.

y do u think from ur anus. So the law was made by d devil?smh. I am a catholic and i am voting for jonathan does that mean i want to please the devil? As far as private revelation is concerned its an opinion and He must not be partisan in order to let us know his revelation.

teemanbastos:
hmmm.. In weeks time,all this go end...
But dis is trash..wen Mbaka was blessing Jonathan and wife weeks ago..why didnt the man say he will sanction Mbaka?! And now he spoke THE TRUTH?
Indeed the Truth is bitter

To me this is a biased statement.

#Buhari/Osinbajo.

What the Bishop is saying here is that Mbaka should be man of his word, if he is for the Jonathans good for him not in deraying......

kayalla:

yeah, probably GEJ didn't do as he promised. during election them loins become mouse and after election they grow claws and vampire teeth.

That is why people are criticizing him. Not that people who are criticizing him support GEJ

kahal29:
Sanction him for saying the truth? The same way you sanctioned the Mbaise and Ahiara people for clamouring for a bishop of their own and one who is close to them and understands their needs? Haba... My dear cardinal

what are u saying, u mean Ahiara people are right to clamour for their own bishop in d catholic church. Mayb its time for Africa to clamour for their own people

customized13:
he told us himself when he insisted on sharia.

jonathan said he would leave after 4 years without electricity, that means hes a liar too right? Why is he still contesting?

arsetalks:
Are you a Christian or at least a church goer? If yes, you yourself should know that even in the bible, if you do not read some preceding verses, you may get confused.

Read the said interview in full and judge for yourself.

You people conveniently ignore the part in which he said non Muslims will be lectured so they know they have nothing to fear.

who dem one lecture? U are d biggest fool for supportin sharia openly! Dont force me to curse u!

slap1:
Mbaka shouldn't have taken sides with anyone. He should have criticized the government and leave it at that.

dats just my point and dats d meaning of not being partisan and thats also y d bishop said that he wil sanction him if he is from his diocese