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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:31pm On Jan 05, 2015
parrotibaba:
Enough of this Rooney criticism, Wayne Rooney has a great first touch, d Manutd vs Aston villa 2010/2011 season comes to mind ,he scored two goals in a 3-1 win ,his first goal in particular was wonderful, a goal kick from van der sar was plucked out of d air by wazza n with dat touch he rifled home a thunderous volley ...u guys r speaking like new man united fans ,go back to d days of cr7 at manutd n watch d clips ,den maybe dis argument won't hold

Those guys arent Man United fans at all.

Rooney has great controls and has scored the best first time shots for Man United.

When other payers score his kind of gaols from his time, we can start even talking with these guys here.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:31pm On Jan 05, 2015
@dopejemi ,against spurs in 2010 ,in dat 3-1 win at white hart lane ,his first touch was wonderful ,n with his second touch ,he nutmegged d defender n slid d ball home
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:39pm On Jan 05, 2015
coogar:



This assist is worth a billion naira. Only Rooney keeps giving this kind of passes/assists. If all had been converted, Rooney should have 10 assists now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:42pm On Jan 05, 2015
Odunharry:
Rafael could be out for 6weeks...
When is Val coming back?
LvG should go get Coleman

Yet you guys are here critizing Rooney. The guy who fougt the war in a Rugby game at Yeovil.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:42pm On Jan 05, 2015
and y'all seemed to hv forgotten his goal against city during d last season of SAF ,his first goal,his first touch took him away from kompany n co n he scored with his 2nd

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:44pm On Jan 05, 2015
Karleb:
That Rooney/Mata argument no be for here o, Mata has proven to be better than Rooney in terms of control and passes infact I'm always rest assured whenever a ball either long or short is coming towards Mata, that apart Mata doesn't play the make eno spoil for my hand football. In the last 5 matches, the edges Rooney has over Mata are goals, occasionally long ball and of course his Captain band.

Let the hype start. If Mata or RVP dos ant of a thing, they are automatically te best.

Rooney was Man United best player in December.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:46pm On Jan 05, 2015
parrotibaba:
and y'all seemed to hv forgotten his goal against city during d last season of SAF ,his first goal,his first touch took him away from kompany n co n he scored with his 2nd

There are hundreds out there.

That same season, I remember two from ame season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:48pm On Jan 05, 2015
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:53pm On Jan 05, 2015
...Against arsenal in '06 ,d cross from Giggs,he brought d cross down excellently b4 smashing in a shot...against Bolton in '07 ,cr7 gave him a pass n his first touch set him up perfectly for d lobbed goal


These r d ones I can clearly remember now but there r many others ,criticize him all u want but d truth still stands out ,he is a living manutd legend ,one of d best to play for united n England ,n he has bailed us out on numerous occasions n also carried us along(2009/2010 season comes to mind)

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:54pm On Jan 05, 2015
Short passes this season:

Rooney 644 accurate short passes to 99 inaccurate
Fellaini 455- 64
Young 347- 62
Di Maria 318 -61
RVP 304-52
Herrera 396- 49


Yet they said Rooney is worst in short passes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:59pm On Jan 05, 2015
parrotibaba:
...Against arsenal in '06 ,d cross from highs,he brought d cross down excellently b4 smashing in a shot...against Bolton in '07 ,cr7 gave him a pass n his first touch set him up perfectly for d lobbed goal


These r d ones I can clearly remember now but there r many others ,criticize him all u want but d truth still stands out ,he is a living manutd legend ,one of d best to play for united n England ,n he has bailed us out on numerous occasions(2009/2010 season comes to mind)

Guy you never see anything. They will tell you Rooney is the problem of the team.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:03pm On Jan 05, 2015
Unsuccessful touches:

RVP 28
fALCAO 21

Rooney 20
JANUZAJ 18
mATA 14
yOUNG 13
rAFAEL 13
di maria 8
wilson 7
fellaini 7
herrera 4
blind 4
Fetcher 4
Valencia 3
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:12pm On Jan 05, 2015
elampiro:
Short passes this season:

Rooney 644 accurate short passes to 99 inaccurate
Fellaini 455- 64
Young 347- 62
Di Maria 318 -61
RVP 304-52
Herrera 396- 49


Yet they said Rooney is worst in short passes.

Falcao 159- 25.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:32pm On Jan 05, 2015
parrotibaba:
dats BS ,it's not concrete evidence dat his first touch is abysmal ,I just gave u one instance n another one d same season was his second goal against westham in a 4-2 win ,Valencia crossed d ball into d area n wazza's first touch was class,it took him away from his marker n bang!!!

the villa goal that VDS assisted wasn't a great first touch. the ball bounced twice away from him before he delivered the killer touch. haven't you seen the way berbatov keeps the ball to his feet like he has a ball magnet in his boot?

elampiro:
Short passes this season:
Rooney 644 accurate short passes to 99 inaccurate
Fellaini 455- 64
Young 347- 62
Di Maria 318 -61
RVP 304-52
Herrera 396- 49
Yet they said Rooney is worst in short passes.

this is a fraudulent statistics

rooney should be compared to carrick, blind, jones & smalling. how can you compare rooney to RVP/falcao - who mostly shoot when they receive passes. who's van persie meant to give short passes to when his job is to score? should he pass backwards or pass to an opponent?

elampiro:
Short passes this season:
Rooney 644 accurate short passes to 99 inaccurate
Fellaini 455- 64
Young 347- 62
Di Maria 318 -61
RVP 304-52
Herrera 396- 49
Yet they said Rooney is worst in short passes.

99 inaccurate passes tell us all we need to know about rooney. he's been partnering carrick in the last few games. let's compare their short passing accuracy in those few games and rooney's short passing flaw becomes magnified. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 7:42pm On Jan 05, 2015
parrotibaba:
@dopejemi ,against spurs in 2010 ,in dat 3-1 win at white hart lane ,his first touch was wonderful ,n with his second touch ,he nutmegged d defender n slid d ball home

Use my logic grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:36pm On Jan 05, 2015
@dopejemi n coogar d truth still stands ,Rooney does not have an abysmal first touch n please not everybody has d "berbatov magnet first touch" (according to coogar) ...his first touches are good ,period! u can argue all u want @coogar I want no part in ur "post segregating" arguments ,it's boring actually ,case closed






Anyways


This January transfer is awfully quiet ,unlike d last January transfer dat had us being linked to virtually all players on d planet
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 8:41pm On Jan 05, 2015
FA Cup fourth round;
Cambridge UTD vs United
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:47pm On Jan 05, 2015
chrisley024:
FA Cup fourth round;
Cambridge UTD vs United
another away match ,hope we play better Dan Yeovil
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:52pm On Jan 05, 2015
parrotibaba:
@dopejemi n coogar d truth still stands ,Rooney does not have an abysmal first touch n please not everybody has d "berbatov magnet first touch" (according to coogar) ...his first touches are good ,period! u can argue all u want

rooney has the most abysmal first touch in the whole of manchester. google rooney's first touch and there are more than a million articles about his poor touch on the internet.


@coogar I want no part in ur "post segregating" arguments ,it's it's boring actually ,case closed

are you high on camel's urine? what's the meaning of this nonsense?

dopeJemi:

Use my logic grin

i think it's a waste of time arguing with these ones. rooney gets dispossessed the most in our squad and some folks still don't think rooney has the worst ball control & the worst short passing accuracy in our team?

#trollsbythedozen
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 9:02pm On Jan 05, 2015
Apparently Liverpool's back three(can ,skrtle ,n sakho) r going to battle it out with dis AFC Wimbledon's striker ,Adebayo Akinfinwa grin grin ,just d thought of dis guy out muscling our own Smalling ,Evans n Jones terrifies me cheesy

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 9:12pm On Jan 05, 2015
coogar:


i think it's a waste of time arguing with these ones. rooney gets dispossessed the most in our squad and some folks still don't think rooney has the worst ball control & the worst short passing accuracy in our team?

#trollsbythedozen

It was crystal clear yesterday, wonder why they've refused to admit it
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 9:13pm On Jan 05, 2015
parrotibaba:
Apparently Liverpool's back three(can ,skrtle ,n sakho) r going to battle it out with dis AFC Wimbledon's striker ,Adebayo Akinfinwa grin grin ,just d thought of dis guy out muscling our own Smalling ,Evans n Jones terrifies me cheesy





Mikel is Usain Bolt to this guy na.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 9:30pm On Jan 05, 2015
parrotibaba:
Apparently Liverpool's back three(can ,skrtle ,n sakho) r going to battle it out with dis AFC Wimbledon's striker ,Adebayo Akinfinwa grin grin ,just d thought of dis guy out muscling our own Smalling ,Evans n Jones terrifies me cheesy





how tf is that guy a footballer?
He looks more llke a member of the coaching staff.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 9:52pm On Jan 05, 2015
PietroRico:
how tf is that guy a footballer?
He looks more llke a member of the coaching staff.
Errm! But he scored smiley
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 9:55pm On Jan 05, 2015
chrisley024:
Errm! But he scored smiley
lol. How? How does he run?
Does he not vibrate the very core of the stadium's foundation?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:06pm On Jan 05, 2015
coogar:


this is a fraudulent statistics

rooney should be compared to carrick, blind, jones & smalling. how can you compare rooney to RVP/falcao - who mostly shoot when they receive passes. who's van persie meant to give short passes to when his job is to score? should he pass backwards or pass to an opponent?




You don't know the difference between shots and passes?
Does Young and Herrera also operate as strikers? If anything, Rooney has played as a striker and number 10. Why is Valencia doing well and RVP, Young and Falcao are woeful?

coogar:




99 inaccurate passes tell us all we need to know about rooney. he's been partnering carrick in the last few games. let's compare their short passing accuracy in those few games and rooney's short passing flaw becomes magnified. grin

So you cannot do the percentage accuracy? The error rate is depended on how many times you touch the ball. Rooney is better than many of our players is first touch and short passes.

Young and Falcao are woeful. RVP is abysmal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:08pm On Jan 05, 2015
dopeJemi:


It was crystal clear yesterday, wonder why they've refused to admit it

I have give stats. Falcao, Young and RVP are the worst in these areas.

Valencia is one of our best in first touch and passes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:15pm On Jan 05, 2015
Di Maria
Young
RVP

Are worse than Rooney is short passing. (Inaccurate short per total short pass ratio)

Rooney and Fellaini are almost tying. They are the fighter of the team. They get into hot battle zone.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 10:18pm On Jan 05, 2015
PietroRico:
lol. How? How does he run?
Does he not vibrate the very core of the stadium's foundation?
Sorry I didn't see it. Got it from livescore
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:19pm On Jan 05, 2015
elampiro:
Unsuccessful touches:

RVP 28
fALCAO 21

Rooney 20
JANUZAJ 18
mATA 14
yOUNG 13
rAFAEL 13
di maria 8
wilson 7
fellaini 7
herrera 4
blind 4
Fetcher 4
Valencia 3


* Compare Young with Val here. Even Val has more playing time.

* When I am chanced, I will bring out Rooney's matches he played as striker in comparison with RVP and Falcao.

Striking position vs striking position. Tomorrow.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 10:19pm On Jan 05, 2015
apparently Akinfenwa has scored d equaliser grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 10:25pm On Jan 05, 2015
elampiro:

You don't know the difference between shots and passes? Does Young and Herrera also operate as strikers? If anything, Rooney has played as a striker and number 10. Why is Valencia doing well and RVP, Young and Falcao are woeful?

rooney plays as a midfielder - he receives and passes the ball where opponents can't be bothered about him(low pressure zones) of the pitch.

strikers have less than 2 seconds to decide what they do with the ball - they play in high pressure zones of the pitch. one of the reasons rooney drops deep even when played as a lone striker is because of his poor ball control - he runs to areas where defenders aren't breathing down his neck.


So you cannot do the percentage accuracy? The error rate is depended on how many times you touch the ball. Rooney is better than many of our players is first touch and short passes.

% accuracy of which passes? long or short passes? which area of the pitch was rooney receiving those passes & how many minutes has he played in the midfield? you can't just pluck stats out of a baboon's arsë and present it in an argument.


Young and Falcao are woeful. RVP is abysmal.

falcao is a striker - same argument applies. young operates as a winger, same argument applies. rooney plays cinderella in front of the back four - an area where opponents can't be bothered to press.

rooney has been dispossessed 32 times this season(even from deep position) - the highest in the entire squad. it shows rooney's short passing and ball control are in shambles. you can't argue with facts - numbers don't lie.

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