jaybee3:
Why do gullible people think their prayers will only be answered within the four walls of a church

Cluelessness is a serious disease

Beats me. I still had this argument with a colleague yesterday and he concluded I was crazy . Godhead. Religion. Two different things. The dogma they have attached themselves to won't make them think

People should study and make deep findings before jumping into conclusions.I had a problem with this too a long time ago,but over the years I've seen the importance of this.The N1000 gate fee is not to extort money from members,Christ Embassy is one of the largest congregations in the world,and many people all round the world fly in to attend some very important meetings like the 31st all night,being a wall closed venue not open air,it's got a capacity limit of about 20,000 and in order to ensure those who come from various parts and the members who come from far places get a seat irrespective of what time they get to the venue,a ticket is being given,so that you know you have a seat irrespective of when you come as the church would not sell more tickets than the available seats in the auditorium.Now,the reason a fee is levied to the ticket is,most times people abuse free things,if its free that way,even some members of the church would hoard and start giving to people they know thereby making some others who want to get in unable to get into the auditorium,so a fee is levied to it to control monopoly of the tickets and may I say,different church branches in Christ Embassy pay for the tickets for some new converts and some random people who arent even part of the church yet,those who are on the street or whatever,they pay for them to gain access into the auditorium even if they can't afford it.So,summary is there are tickets to the auditorium to control crowd and a fee levied to it to control hoarding and its even scriptural maybe you should check out Mt15:26

slap1:
Whatever. Some of those who complain about the 1k would pay 20k to watch AY. Like I said, it wasn't under duress, they had a choice. Personally, I won't pay a farthing for that.

Yea i understand. This story sounds ridiculous to many cos it involves a church; a place where the word of God is expected to be disseminated freely.

It is well sha.

mencade4:
we have 3 top thieves in the church today.

They are ranked as follows:

1. Oyedepo: richest pastor in african...with 4 private jets. Which business does he run? None but stealing church money for his personal pockets. thief!

2. Adeboye: anoda grand thief....that collects tithes, using psychology to put fear into members. Last year made his members contributes 10 billion in a single week. thief.

3. Oyakhilome: a womanizer and a thief, who said masturbation is not a sin. He has succeeded in twisting the brains of members of his social clubs...believers lovers world.

Thief!


If you took tithe from the old testament why didny you acccept the rest laws of the old testaments?

Did jesus pay tithe? Where did paul pay tithe in the bible or peter?

Thieves......we need to judge these con men here in this world. God will do his own later.


Liberation for gullible nigerians!


Of any of them assume they can curse me....let the curse go back to their head and their entire generation....thieves. They can do nothing.....fake men!

be careful bruv ....did they force you to give ?

nothing is free in this world even though you might enjoy it for free ...so Gospel is free but God is payong for it through our offerings ...he paid the untimate price when he gave his son Jesus ...the Gospel is not free

oluwatobi75:
People should study and make deep findings before jumping into conclusions.I had a problem with this too a long time ago,but over the years I've seen the importance of this.The N1000 gate fee is not to extort money from members,Christ Embassy is one of the largest congregations in the world,and many people all round the world fly in to attend some very important meetings like the 31st all night,being a wall closed venue not open air,it's got a capacity limit of about 20,000 and in order to ensure those who come from various parts and the members who come from far places get a seat irrespective of what time they get to the venue,a ticket is being given,so that you know you have a seat irrespective of when you come as the church would not sell more tickets than the available seats in the auditorium.Now,the reason a fee is levied to the ticket is,most times people abuse free things,if its free that way,even some members of the church would hoard and start giving to people they know thereby making some others who want to get in unable to get into the auditorium,so a fee is levied to it to control monopoly of the tickets and may I say,different church branches in Christ Embassy pay for the tickets of some new converts and some random people who arent even part of the church yet,those who are on the street or whatever,they pay for them to gain access into the auditorium even if they can't afford it.So,summary is there are tickets to the auditorium to control crowd and a fee levied to it to control hoarding and its even scriptural maybe you should check out Mt15:26

And they can do all you have said without asking for money.

And nice misquotation of the bible BTW.

limamintruth:


Yea i understand. This story sounds ridiculous to many cos it involves a church; a place where the word of God is expected to be disseminated freely.

It is well sha.

Yes. I said it isn't by force because the 'victims ' are adults, not that I support the religious extortion in any way.

johncreek:
Wetin concern una..
Is it your ministry?
Didn't see where he wrote "compulsory to attend"

You are a big idi.ot. Now I know why these corrupt men who call themselves pastors will keep getting rich. Because of assholes like you.

ooshinibos:
nothing is free in this world even though you might enjoy it for free ...so Gospel is free but God is payong for it through our offerings ...he paid the untimate price when he gave his son Jesus ...the Gospel is not free

Well....and Jesus did not charge entrance fees for people to hear his sermons.

You men worshipers better think of a better excuse.

Follow Christ. Pastor Chris is just a man.

bigtt76:
Like $5 using the exchange rate $1 = N186

I just wish i was the attendant who sold the ticket. I would've been negotiating price for my range rover by now. Gullible Nigerian worshippers.

This is a good development. Now, the MOGs gradually making it crystal clear that this is nothing, but a business.

For every action, there is equal and opposite reaction. Hope the Federal Government is getting set to impose tax payment not less than (30%) on collection such as this (excluding that of tithe). The FG needs more money to finance the economy, now that oil revenue is dropping at fast rate.

deevatee:
am telling u! It pains me to see pple allowing demselves to be brainwashed and used all in d name of religion wen d bible is simply der for personal edificaion...my pastor will alys say "God is better experienced dan explained.

my sister......u r very correct.....i was there before......paid the usual thing, but years later, i discovered only few are genuinely called......many of them were never called.

Very true, its good to experience God.

During nysc, i stopped being hypocritic and wanted to stand for the truth and equality on both religion. No sentiments, but i was termed the devil among them. I didnt mind them, deep within me, i knew i was never bad.

This made me to stop worshipping with them, and do my own worshipping.


I have learnt to face the truth, say it as it is, nigerians hates that but we wont fall in line with that kind of mentality.


This nation must succeed and be great again.

Tanx sis.

oluwatobi75:
People should study and make deep findings before jumping into conclusions.I had a problem with this too a long time ago,but over the years I've seen the importance of this.The N1000 gate fee is not to extort money from members,Christ Embassy is one of the largest congregations in the world,and many people all round the world fly in to attend some very important meetings like the 31st all night,being a wall closed venue not open air,it's got a capacity limit of about 20,000 and in order to ensure those who come from various parts and the members who come from far places get a seat irrespective of what time they get to the venue,a ticket is being given,so that you know you have a seat irrespective of when you come as the church would not sell more tickets than the available seats in the auditorium.Now,the reason a fee is levied to the ticket is,most times people abuse free things,if its free that way,even some members of the church would hoard and start giving to people they know thereby making some others who want to get in unable to get into the auditorium,so a fee is levied to it to control monopoly of the tickets and may I say,different church branches in Christ Embassy pay for the tickets for some new converts and some random people who arent even part of the church yet,those who are on the street or whatever,they pay for them to gain access into the auditorium even if they can't afford it.So,summary is there are tickets to the auditorium to control crowd and a fee levied to it to control hoarding and its even scriptural maybe you should check out Mt15:26

and I wonder y Pastor Adeboye is not charging for the Holy Ghost congress and well as Pst Oyedepo, as well as Pst Paul Adefarasin as well as the FG and State Govt for OCT 1 celebration since they can't control the crowd,lolzzzzz

lastmessenger:

You are the biggest fool on earth. A man brings up a silly reason and extort people and you are supporting him. A simple way to control crowd is to make sure that pastors, pcf leaders, and cell leaders are registered with tags before the cross over night.
The others could be treated on first come first serve basis.when the capacity is filled then the rest can be turned back.
Again you are an Idi.ot You have sold your brain to another man.

CooI suggestion made for crowd control. But people like you are only good in ranting than acting. Keep taking it through the butthole.

slap1:
Yes. I said it isn't by force because the 'victims ' are adults, not that I support the religious extortion in any way.

Yea i gat you.

oluwatobi75:
People should study and make deep findings before jumping into conclusions.I had a problem with this too a long time ago,but over the years I've seen the importance of this.The N1000 gate fee is not to extort money from members,Christ Embassy is one of the largest congregations in the world,and many people all round the world fly in to attend some very important meetings like the 31st all night,being a wall closed venue not open air,it's got a capacity limit of about 20,000 and in order to ensure those who come from various parts and the members who come from far places get a seat irrespective of what time they get to the venue,a ticket is being given,so that you know you have a seat irrespective of when you come as the church would not sell more tickets than the available seats in the auditorium.Now,the reason a fee is levied to the ticket is,most times people abuse free things,if its free that way,even some members of the church would hoard and start giving to people they know thereby making some others who want to get in unable to get into the auditorium,so a fee is levied to it to control monopoly of the tickets and may I say,different church branches in Christ Embassy pay for the tickets for some new converts and some random people who arent even part of the church yet,those who are on the street or whatever,they pay for them to gain access into the auditorium even if they can't afford it.So,summary is there are tickets to the auditorium to control crowd and a fee levied to it to control hoarding and its even scriptural maybe you should check out Mt15:26

Mt 15:26 says nothing about charging worshippers entry fee to Church.

ooshinibos:


be careful bruv ....did they force you to give ?

tell them I said they should be careful.......a storm is coming that will sweep these con men away.

oluwatobi75:
People should study and make deep findings before jumping into conclusions.I had a problem with this too a long time ago,but over the years I've seen the importance of this.The N1000 gate fee is not to extort money from members,Christ Embassy is one of the largest congregations in the world,and many people all round the world fly in to attend some very important meetings like the 31st all night,being a wall closed venue not open air,it's got a capacity limit of about 20,000 and in order to ensure those who come from various parts and the members who come from far places get a seat irrespective of what time they get to the venue,a ticket is being given,so that you know you have a seat irrespective of when you come as the church would not sell more tickets than the available seats in the auditorium.Now,the reason a fee is levied to the ticket is,most times people abuse free things,if its free that way,even some members of the church would hoard and start giving to people they know thereby making some others who want to get in unable to get into the auditorium,so a fee is levied to it to control monopoly of the tickets and may I say,different church branches in Christ Embassy pay for the tickets for some new converts and some random people who arent even part of the church yet,those who are on the street or whatever,they pay for them to gain access into the auditorium even if they can't afford it.So,summary is there are tickets to the auditorium to control crowd and a fee levied to it to control hoarding and its even scriptural maybe you should check out Mt15:26

Why didn't they use "First come First serve basis"?when the church capacity gets filled they lock the gate! Or better still why didn't dey distribute the ticket free to their regular members prior to the 31st night! I guess you are a BLW member?

sharkhead:

You can't tell? N I guess you worship under a pastor? How did you know that the one you are worshipping under is a man of God? What happend to d "by their fruits you shall know them"? What happend to d spirit of discernment? Even d bible admonishes to "TASTE n SEE", "PROVE THE WORD"...sometimes we christians get all preachy n we wl c a REV. KING in our backyard n we Will keep quiet until he roasts someone's daughter! Simple question: What did Jesus do to the People who were Merchandising in the Temple! This days I see too many politically correct n hey ur position is ur choice though but I kno what Jesus will do in such a situation...Dnt ask me...read ur Bible!

I understand where u r coming from,it is also our duty to expose them when they do wrong, I have chosen to not say things about men of God bcus people like some here will always defend them. I haven't been to church in months cus I've realised its better for me to worship God in my own time and space than to go to church and listen tthem preach about money. In this instance people dat worship at christ embassy should've voiced their dissent. Such an act but they won't,instead they'll defend such. If u ask me I'll say dat pple now follow men of God instead of God.

sharkhead:

I have questions for u and if only u wl sincerely attempt to answer them U wl c wat u wrote up there as "SENSE" wt d prefix "NON"
Question 1
Is this d first time they are having cross over service in that place that they ddnt anticipate that crowd?
Question 2
Must everybody converge in dt one venue when it can b shown on screen in dia branches abi na only dt place dy lagos? Actually ccrossed over in a church where d servic was done ds way!
Question 3
Better still, what stops d church frm havin d service in a stadium if they anticipated that much crowd?

If u kno wat is right to do and u dnt do it-its called sin...if they know d answer to ol d mentioned n dy ddnt do it but chose to (a)extort money from people (b) send people away from God's house-(dt is if they c as such) then the Bible calls it....SIN!
Since this act of extortion started in 2011 as d article stated...its qite obvios they dnt give a damn wat we say because they have a market of gullible people in Nigeria but wat is not right no matter hw u try to justify wont make it right!

Alright, I don hear. Good recommendations. But i was talking based on what a Christ Embassy member told me. Anyways, the people that went and paid weren't forced to do so.

Dragonking:


The funny thing is that you guys dont know the difference between exposing a wrong act in the house of the Lord and judging..Why should a man drive away people that he should be saving and indirectly making money from the gullible members? Pls stop saying God will Judge because he has put us in the place to judge evil doers/con men etc(but judge rightly, yes it is the bible too).

God will judge... U know y i said it? cos its my opinion & derz rily nuttn (if u want to b sincere wit urself) dat u can do about it ... U can take a gun and shoot him down cos what he just did is far worse than what uv been doing all ur life. Ur just like those guyz who picked up stones to kill the adulterous woman in the bible.

Ur d one who does not know the difference btw exposing a wrong act and judging. First of all, im not a huge fan of the guy...never attended his church, never will.. and i found one of his tele-sermons rather disturbing.... If u want to expose him, do an article in the dailies or go ahead, fake a need to testify @ his church & expose him when u have the mic in ur hands...

Good luck!

blackjack21:


By their utterance you shall know them.


Lord, bear witness, he is blunt with the truth.

lol.....we must set people free..........the time for hiding the truth is over.

kingthreat:

I suggestion made for crowd control. But people like you are only good in ranting than acting. Keep taking it through the butthole.

Is obvious that you paid 1k to another man to worship your God. Shame on you.
Crowd control my foot. There are better ways to control crowd. CE is know to extort money from it's gullible worshipers. From pastor birthday to partnership and tithe first fruit gate fee and the rest.
Is all about man worship if not you should no that Jesus Christ disapproves of what goes on in that cult.

bushdoc9919:


And they can do all you have said without asking for money.

And nice misquotation of the bible BTW.

Lol,maybe you should ask AY,Tee-A,etc why they sell tickets even though they do it for profit making,why they sell tickets to control crowd.Its so funny how people see the beauty of the church today and they never wanna know how the financial aspect fare,all they wanna know is "Pastors are thieves".Well for that scripture,the BIBLE says Jesus told the woman who asked him to come cast out a demon from her daughter,and Jesus replied her,"it's not meet to give what belongs to the children to the dogs",now Jesus said "Freely have you received,freely give",why did the woman have to get her miracle at a cost,because she had to answer well before she got the miracle,she didn't get it easily because Jesus told her she had answered well and because of that she got her miracle.If Jesus said He was sent to the lost one of Israel first,why can't the 31st night service for the ministry be for the members first and those outside who want to be a part of it must really show they are willing to be a part of it by working for itand even the work is easy,all they need to do is go to a branch and humbly ask for a ticket by letting them know they can't afford it and it would be given unto them...Study the word better bro and get a deeper understanding of the word to show thyself approved and dividing the word of truth

bushdoc9919:




Well....and Jesus did not charge entrance fees for people to hear his sermons.

You men worshipers better think of a better excuse.

Follow Christ. Pastor Chris is just a man.

; D
honestly , i dont support the fee ,may be there should be a better way to do crowd control or whatever , i consider the 1k naira has offering if i was to pay it sha .

lastmessenger:

Is obvious that you paid 1k to another man to worship your God. Shame on you.
Crowd control my foot. There are better ways to control crowd. CE is know to extort money from it's gullible worshipers. From pastor birthday to partnership and tithe first fruit gate fee and the rest.
Is all about man worship if not you should no that Jesus Christ disapproves of what goes on in that cult.

Oya e don do. I no go support them again.

mencade4:
tell them I said they should be careful.......a storm is coming that will sweep these con men away.

AM WAITING FOR THE STORM ....if its from Naija ..am definitely sure it will not happen ..naija na naija

oluwatobi75:
People should study and make deep findings before jumping into conclusions.I had a problem with this too a long time ago,but over the years I've seen the importance of this.The N1000 gate fee is not to extort money from members,Christ Embassy is one of the largest congregations in the world,and many people all round the world fly in to attend some very important meetings like the 31st all night,being a wall closed venue not open air,it's got a capacity limit of about 20,000 and in order to ensure those who come from various parts and the members who come from far places get a seat irrespective of what time they get to the venue,a ticket is being given,so that you know you have a seat irrespective of when you come as the church would not sell more tickets than the available seats in the auditorium.Now,the reason a fee is levied to the ticket is,most times people abuse free things,if its free that way,even some members of the church would hoard and start giving to people they know thereby making some others who want to get in unable to get into the auditorium,so a fee is levied to it to control monopoly of the tickets and may I say,different church branches in Christ Embassy pay for the tickets for some new converts and some random people who arent even part of the church yet,those who are on the street or whatever,they pay for them to gain access into the auditorium even if they can't afford it.So,summary is there are tickets to the auditorium to control crowd and a fee levied to it to control hoarding and its even scriptural maybe you should check out Mt15:26

I have questions for u and if only u wl sincerely attempt to answer them U wl c wat u wrote up there as "SENSE" wt d prefix "NON"
Question 1
Is this d first time they are having cross over service in that place that they ddnt anticipate that crowd?
Question 2
Must everybody converge in dt one venue when it can b shown on screen in dia branches abi na only dt place dy lagos? Actually ccrossed over in a church where d servic was done ds way!
Question 3
Better still, what stops d church frm havin d service in a stadium if they anticipated that much crowd?

If u kno wat is right to do and u dnt do it-its called sin...if they know d answer to ol d mentioned n dy ddnt do it but chose to (a)extort money from people (b) send people away from God's house-(dt is if they c as such) then the Bible calls it....SIN!
Since this act of extortion started in 2011 as d article stated...its qite obvios u folks dnt give a damn wat we say because u have a market of gullible people in Nigeria but wat is not right no matter hw u try to justify wont make it right! Gosh..u r even tryin to justify wt scriptures!

jaybee3:
Why do gullible people think their prayers will only be answered within the four walls of a church

Cluelessness is a serious disease

!

Lord into ur hands we commits our believes.

emmydillz:
It's not by force...stay at home and watch it live or watch d repeat.

Nonsense! Absolute nonsense!

And all these armed robbers looking for what to rob, didnt they see such a huge opportunity? Five solid gun shots on air on invading the venue, everyone will scatter and leave the money behind, then you go in jejely and take your possesion. Church money is every body's money. No be only Pastor Chris go dey use am live large life.

kingthreat:


Alright, I don hear. Good recommendations. But i was talking based on what a Christ Embassy member told me. Anyways, the people that went and paid weren't forced to do so.

I kno say u don hear but let me say ds, as much as I dont buy that ur position of "they paid not under duress" talk, whats much more insensitive is d people that were sent home coz they couldnt pay to enter Gods house. Ofcoz wat do u expect-The members wl surely defend watevr explanation they are given!

kingthreat:


Oya e don do. I no go support them again.

Good