The Bible may or may not be inspired by God – we haven’t proved it yet, one way or the other – but it is nonetheless a historical document. A document that has been dated, depending on which book of the Bible and who you ask, at between 1900 and 3500 years ago. No one, no matter how skeptical, dates any part of the Old Testament at later than 2000 years ago. So then it is an absolute fact that this is an ancient document.

We have vast multitudes of independent writings – not only in the New Testament, but throughout the world – which were written 2000 years ago and speak of the antiquity of many books of the Old Testament even then.
So let us look at some of the things in those books that only a God could have known. Things that no man has ever known, or could conceivably have known, until our century. For this would prove that someone greater than a man had written those books.

1. Job 38:24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?
This particular question demands of Job how the light was parted (by day into night) and how that light makes the east wind blow. Now we today, can answer that question. Job could not.

2. Isaiah 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,.... Maps of the Earth from the times of Mesopotamia, when Job was most likely written, and even much later, portrayed a flat earth, sometimes round in the midst of an infinite ocean.

3. Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?
We didn’t “walk in search of the depth [of the sea] “the deepest part of the ocean, until 1875 when we discovered the deepest point on Earth, the Challenger Deep in the Marianas Trench (although we weren’t sure it was the deepest point until much later). We didn’t fully survey it until 1951. We didn’t actually “walk” in it until 1960! But how does this prove the existence of God? Simply the fact that in most ancient cultures, the ocean HAD no bottom! The Greek word abyss , used for the deep ocean, literally means “bottomless”! And 3500 years ago, only God could have known with such certainty that the ocean did in fact have a “depth”! In the same verse; Why would there be water pouring INTO the sea from underground – the sea is where water came from! And mankind for all his technological achievements didn’t discover underwater springs until 1949 – A.D.! Almost four millennium after Job was written! And even then, it wasn’t confirmed until 1960, and it wasn’t until 1979 that human beings first saw deep-sea springs with their own eyes!

4. Job 38:18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.
Man didn’t measure the circumference (“breadth”) of the Earth with even remote accuracy until Eratosthenes did it in about 240 BC. But God knew exactly how large it was. For He sits “above the circle of it”.

5. Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
According to everyone before 570 BC, the Earth was flat. Even then, and for millennia afterwards, the Earth was held up by something. For the Greeks it was on the shoulders of the god Atlas. For the American-Indians it was supported on the back of a giant turtle. Other cultures believed it was on the back of a hog, water buffalo, snake, or elephant. These ideas had the delightful side-benefit of explaining earthquakes, since it logically follows the theory that if Earth was on an elephant’s back and the elephant itched, the Earth would move.
The idea of the Earth literally hanging on NOTHING – as in, an Earth in free-fall through space – was one that no ancient mind could have grasped. Newton’s famous “apple incident” gave us the first real clue as to how gravity operated to control bodies at great distances. But 3500 years ago? Only God could have known!

6. Job 38:25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder; As primitive man sought answers about the natural world, lightning became a part of his superstitions, his myths and his early religions.

For more
Http://thesimpleanswers.com/2009/08/08/does-god-exist/

*SMH*

Your intended audience is definitely not the diverse forum of Nairaland, but for Christians.

Kay 17: *SMH*

Your intended audience is definitely not the diverse forum of Nairaland, but for Christians.

Job 38:38 When the dust groweth into hardness, and the clods cleave fast together? -KJV

Job 38:38 When [heat has caused] the dust to run into a mass and the clods to cleave fast together? -NIV

Job couldn't answer this but we can answer it today through cosmos theory.....though it happend just in a day.

Now see again how the huge Earth surface temperature was cooled by God.

Job 37:17 How thy garments [are] warm, when he quieteth the Earth by the south [wind]?

up till now atheist scientist don't know how the Earth surface was cooled after formation and if Earth is billions of years, the centre core of the earth suppose to be cool by now.

God knows how the GRAVITY works in the universe; Job 37:16 Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, the wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?

So only God could have known all these about 3900years ago.

Are you saying that the possession of knowledge makes one a God?

Kay 17: Are you saying that the possession of knowledge makes one a God?

What did you understand from the thread right from the beginning?

Kay 17: *SMH*

Your intended audience is definitely not the diverse forum of Nairaland, but for Christians.

Why don't you argue the validity of the claims made by the OP instead of trolling? Your attempt at trolling simply highlights your insecurities at the apparent possibility of a God, thereby shattering your whole mindset and pride. You accuse religious people of not thinking; Why don't you practice what you preach: THINK!!! then argue.

Mattew 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the SUN be darkened, and and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be shaken:

How this prove the existence of God? Because in most ancient time what the believe is that Sun and the Moon produce light on their own but only God could have known over 2000 years ago that without sun moon can't produce light.

Some people do misinterpret this very verse by saying "SUN & MOON" won't give their light, WRONG!

Let's look at this phrase again ".....shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light..." Looking at this phrase Jesus clearly stated that immediately sun darken then moon will not give her light any more.

Again second to the last phrase (".....and the stars shall fall from heaven....." is being misinterpreted by some people by saying many stars are bigger than the earth so it's not possible for stars to fall on earth.

Jesus didn't specify in His statement where the stars will fall to whether 'earth or not' yet they just assume that it was earth. The hebrew word 'naphal' is where 'fall' is translated from it could also mean 'adandon, fail'. If we replace any of these two words in the phrase it will read "....and the stars shall fail from heaven...." which could simply mean fail to give light also.

Nice thread.
What about the prophecies.
The four major empires.
The end time increase in knowledge, etc.

bobby.L:
Nice thread.
What about the prophecies.
The four major empires.
The end time increase in knowledge, etc.

All these are well fulfulled.

^^^

If God only knows these things, how come we know it too??

Kay 17: ^^^

If God only knows these things, how come we know it too??

Bible was written thousand of years ago, and the reason while God asked Job those question is because Job and his friends were talking about universe without knowledge(science), then God answered Job;
Job 38:1-2 "Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said, [2] Whos is this that darkeneth counsel(predict) by words without knowledge(science)."

So these are things in those books that only a God could have known. Things that no man has ever known, or could conceivably have known in Job's time, until our century.

Remember OT was written over 3000 years ago and poeple's knowledge were so limited to their environment as you can see the details @OP but someone who is greater than man and created all things with so much confidence could have inspired those verses accurately and we can testify with the help of science today.

But why is this thread not being well responded to.
Indeed, the prince of this world has blinded many.

bobby.L:
But why is this thread not being well responded to.
Indeed, the prince of this world has blinded many.

That's their life. They always boycott anything they don't have enough facts to support/they know is true/can not be refuted except only Kay 17 I respect him because he's an open-minded atheist. He doesn't close his mind on any topic he will clearly say his mind. I noticed that in most of my thread.

Another fact about what only God could've known!

Let's see these Bible verses
Isaiah 43:16-17 "16Thus saith the LORD, which maketh a way in the sea, and a path in the mighty waters; 17 Which bringeth forth the chariot and horse, the army and the power; they shall lie down together, they shall not rise: they are extinct, they are quenched as tow.

Verse 17 clearly stated how fossil had formed and how lives had gone into extinction.

Scientist has recorded that 98% of lives had gone into extinction which it can be traced back to Genesis global flood (for a creationist).

And generally speaking, a fossil is any evidence of past plant or animal life that is preserved in the material of the Earth's crust. But when most people talk about fossils, they mean a specific subsection of this group -- fossils in which the shape of the animal or plant has been preserved, while the actual organic matter of its body is gone.

With such certainty only God could vividly know that some lives has gone extinct and formed fossilize materials about 3000 years ago because He made them happened the way they were today.

bobby.L:
But why is this thread not being well responded to.
Indeed, the prince of this world has blinded many.

Nice thread @ op, informative and educative.

The likes of logic boy will abstain from threads like this for they 've have got nothing to say to oppose this.

New Testament was written after the death of Jesus Christ no matter how it might be dated not less than 40-80 AD even by skeptics.

Apostle Paul in his epestle to people of Romans with the help of The Holyspirit says somethings about the universe and human being and today is being comfirmed by scientist.


Let's look at his inspired statement.
The real verse(s) will appear in blue while added word will appear in default color.

Romans 8:22-23 "For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

This verse simply means every creatures are losing their original perfect creation power - 'the word GROAN was translated from Greek word 'stenazo' meaning expressing grief within oneself'.
Today scientist comfirmed how creations groan within themselve:

*Sun is losing its fuel which may end up stop giving light one day.
*Universe keeps expanding which scientist don't no its outcome.
*Earth's atmosphere keeps destroying through green-house emission which humans don't know how to put an end to.
*Earth's magnetic field keeps fading.
*Recession of the Moon keeps occuring.
And many more.....

23 And not only they, that is not only other creations but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves,
Gen 2:7 "God formed man out of the dust of the ground and the Lord God breath in his nostril a breath of LIFE and man became a living soul." meaning even humans who have the firstfruit of the spirit of God also groan within themselve.
How can this be?

The word 'MUTATIONS' or 'MUTANT' means change, this word has been used millions of times by evolutionist to support evolution of one organism to another organism.

Where this mutant occur? It only occurs in living DNA (every living things have DNA and this DNA contains an INFORMATION or what will called software of life its a genetic code similar to machine code). Time will not permit me to go deep on mutations and DNA information.

Recent research shows us that losing a code or total code from genetic information results to serious disease or death. waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body."

What causes all these creations groaning? Just because of disobedient of man.

But the same God has given us hope to withstand and overcome all these groaning.

Romans 2:28 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Do you love God?

Shalom!

Wow!

This is the undeniable truth from the bible! This op is not at all a selective reinterpretation of bible quotes! This op covers all the contradicions and inaccuracies in the bible

Logicboy03: Wow!

This is the undeniable truth from the bible! This op is not at all a selective reinterpretation of bible quotes! This op covers all the contradicions and inaccuracies in the bible

Misunderstanding of those verses is what you called contradictions and inaccuracies. Only if you really want to know the real meaning of those verses you can bring them up but I won't waste my time if you don't want to.

@Op, dem no dey climb ladder from up!

kwangi: @Op, dem no dey climb ladder from up!

Sure!

Justify yourself on that.

One of the best thread soo far.

Emusan:
The Bible may or may not be inspired by God

2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
.

Yeah the scribe who wrote the poem job said many things and such mundane knowledge is too basic for a seemingly omniscient being...if truly those verses meant what you just said they mean why didnt god detail them out plainly instead of writing it as any ancient primitive mind would put...You just quote the verses and give them the meaning you want...lol typical... you also forgot to mention the book of job mentioned unicorn and other inexistent animals... for such an all knowing god to mention an inexistent animal is a huge flaw to the writer of job. . . when you all understand that someone actually wrote those things and not a spiritual being...then we can reason.

johnw74:

2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
.

Did you read the Op at all

Lol..the way Christians give their different interpretations to Bible verses is just amusing, if not ridiculous.

@op...Mtcheew. In that case the great pyramid of giza could mot have been built by the ancient egyptians, but gods(aliens)

timonski:
@op...Mtcheew. In that case the great pyramid of giza could mot have been built by the ancient egyptians, but gods(aliens)

no mind the op they have been programmed not to see beyond their "holy book" what about the more than 500 million yrs old London hammer, (The Antikythera mechanism) a Greek
ancient computer or (The Baghdad battery) a 2000 year old
battery.
it seems job was not ignorant afterall as we have a 2015 CLUELESS op probably from otuoke oh God morE Justification for
GMB till 2019

@all atheists.
Why the noise nah? The intelligent atheists has nothing to say, that why they boycott this thread and allow you guys to rants.

Emusan:
The Bible may or may not be inspired by God – we haven’t proved it yet, one way or the other – but it is nonetheless a historical document. A document that has been dated, depending on which book of the Bible and who you ask, at between 1900 and 3500 years ago. No one, no matter how skeptical, dates any part of the Old Testament at later than 2000 years ago. So then it is an absolute fact that this is an ancient document.

We have vast multitudes of independent writings – not only in the New Testament, but throughout the world – which were written 2000 years ago and speak of the antiquity of many books of the Old Testament even then.
So let us look at some of the things in those books that only a God could have known. Things that no man has ever known, or could conceivably have known, until our century. For this would prove that someone greater than a man had written those books.

1. Job 38:24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?
This particular question demands of Job how the light was parted (by day into night) and how that light makes the east wind blow. Now we today, can answer that question. Job could not.

2. Isaiah 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,.... Maps of the Earth from the times of Mesopotamia, when Job was most likely written, and even much later, portrayed a flat earth, sometimes round in the midst of an infinite ocean.

3. Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?
We didn’t “walk in search of the depth [of the sea] “the deepest part of the ocean, until 1875 when we discovered the deepest point on Earth, the Challenger Deep in the Marianas Trench (although we weren’t sure it was the deepest point until much later). We didn’t fully survey it until 1951. We didn’t actually “walk” in it until 1960! But how does this prove the existence of God? Simply the fact that in most ancient cultures, the ocean HAD no bottom! The Greek word abyss , used for the deep ocean, literally means “bottomless”! And 3500 years ago, only God could have known with such certainty that the ocean did in fact have a “depth”! In the same verse; Why would there be water pouring INTO the sea from underground – the sea is where water came from! And mankind for all his technological achievements didn’t discover underwater springs until 1949 – A.D.! Almost four millennium after Job was written! And even then, it wasn’t confirmed until 1960, and it wasn’t until 1979 that human beings first saw deep-sea springs with their own eyes!

4. Job 38:18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.
Man didn’t measure the circumference (“breadth”) of the Earth with even remote accuracy until Eratosthenes did it in about 240 BC. But God knew exactly how large it was. For He sits “above the circle of it”.

5. Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
According to everyone before 570 BC, the Earth was flat. Even then, and for millennia afterwards, the Earth was held up by something. For the Greeks it was on the shoulders of the god Atlas. For the American-Indians it was supported on the back of a giant turtle. Other cultures believed it was on the back of a hog, water buffalo, snake, or elephant. These ideas had the delightful side-benefit of explaining earthquakes, since it logically follows the theory that if Earth was on an elephant’s back and the elephant itched, the Earth would move.
The idea of the Earth literally hanging on NOTHING – as in, an Earth in free-fall through space – was one that no ancient mind could have grasped. Newton’s famous “apple incident” gave us the first real clue as to how gravity operated to control bodies at great distances. But 3500 years ago?[img] Only God could have known!

6. Job 38:25 Who hath d[/img]ivided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder; As primitive man sought answers about the natural world, lightning became a part of his superstitions, his myths and his early religions.

For more
Http://thesimpleanswers.com/2009/08/08/does-god-exist/

Long ago, I would have typed a long response taking down every single one of the useless claims OP made. Sadly, I'm older now and I have something better to do this evening (going out drinking). I'm going to have to leave this for the younger generation of atheists to tackle.

It only took OP 2 seconds to copy and paste this nonsense and I've already spent more than that.

^^^ Before you guys start claiming victory, here's a RationalWiki article debunking all the nonsense OP posted. I would have copied and pasted it, but fixing the formatting would have taken too long and my beer is getting hot. Maybe somebody more jobless can do it for me.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Science_Confirms_the_Bible

Its too cold for beer to warm here. Make I try my hand for the OP.

Emusan:
The Bible may or may not be inspired by God – we haven’t proved it yet, one way or the other – but it is nonetheless a historical document. A document that has been dated, depending on which book of the Bible and who you ask, at between 1900 and 3500 years ago. No one, no matter how skeptical, dates any part of the Old Testament at later than 2000 years ago. So then it is an absolute fact that this is an ancient document.
We have vast multitudes of independent writings – not only in the New Testament, but throughout the world – which were written 2000 years ago and speak of the antiquity of many books of the Old Testament even then.
So let us look at some of the things in those books that only a God could have known. Things that no man has ever known, or could conceivably have known, until our century. For this would prove that someone greater than a man had written those books.
1. Job 38:24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?
This particular question demands of Job how the light was parted (by day into night) and how that light makes the east wind blow. Now we today, can answer that question. Job could not.
2. Isaiah 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,.... Maps of the Earth from the times of Mesopotamia, when Job was most likely written, and even much later, portrayed a flat earth, sometimes round in the midst of an infinite ocean.
3. Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?
We didn’t “walk in search of the depth [of the sea] “the deepest part of the ocean, until 1875 when we discovered the deepest point on Earth, the Challenger Deep in the Marianas Trench (although we weren’t sure it was the deepest point until much later). We didn’t fully survey it until 1951. We didn’t actually “walk” in it until 1960! But how does this prove the existence of God? Simply the fact that in most ancient cultures, the ocean HAD no bottom! The Greek word abyss , used for the deep ocean, literally means “bottomless”! And 3500 years ago, only God could have known with such certainty that the ocean did in fact have a “depth”! In the same verse; Why would there be water pouring INTO the sea from underground – the sea is where water came from! And mankind for all his technological achievements didn’t discover underwater springs until 1949 – A.D.! Almost four millennium after Job was written! And even then, it wasn’t confirmed until 1960, and it wasn’t until 1979 that human beings first saw deep-sea springs with their own eyes!
4. Job 38:18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.
Man didn’t measure the circumference (“breadth”) of the Earth with even remote accuracy until Eratosthenes did it in about 240 BC. But God knew exactly how large it was. For He sits “above the circle of it”.
5. Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
According to everyone before 570 BC, the Earth was flat. Even then, and for millennia afterwards, the Earth was held up by something. For the Greeks it was on the shoulders of the god Atlas. For the American-Indians it was supported on the back of a giant turtle. Other cultures believed it was on the back of a hog, water buffalo, snake, or elephant. These ideas had the delightful side-benefit of explaining earthquakes, since it logically follows the theory that if Earth was on an elephant’s back and the elephant itched, the Earth would move.
The idea of the Earth literally hanging on NOTHING – as in, an Earth in free-fall through space – was one that no ancient mind could have grasped. Newton’s famous “apple incident” gave us the first real clue as to how gravity operated to control bodies at great distances. But 3500 years ago? Only God could have known!
6. Job 38:25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder; As primitive man sought answers about the natural world, lightning became a part of his superstitions, his myths and his early religions.
For more
Http://thesimpleanswers.com/2009/08/08/does-god-exist/

1. This is a question. Where is the answer to this question? Is it in the bible? How are we to know that God knows the answer?

2. There is no place “above” the earth. “Above” would only make sense when used to describe an earth on which humans lived on just one side. Such an earth is much more likely to be flat. The use of the word “circle” in the verse suggests that it is a flat earth that is being described.

3. There are indeed deep sea springs. These springs however are not the source of the water in the oceans. I don’t think it is out of place to imagine that the sea has a bottom. After all, they imagined the earth to be finite in size. How could it have contained an infinite ocean?

4. Another question whose answer is not found in the bible. How are we to know that God knows the answer?

5. The earth does not “hang”. Its movement is not a free fall either, as alleged in the commentary.

6. What does this even mean?

Emusan:


Did you read the Op at all

You said: "The Bible may or may not be inspired by God – we haven’t proved it yet,"

There is no maybe about it, it is inspired by God, it doesn't have to be proved.
2Ti_3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: