An0nimus:

Tony misses him. Can't say for any one else. I remember JeSoul. She was a mod here once yeah?

We all miss him...he used to make this thread lively...

herald9:



We all miss him...he used to make this thread lively...

You and Tony miss him. Still can't speak for the rest

herald9:



hehehe bruh, It wasn't easy at all

You're a Catholic right?

Nope but I have a couple as good friends. Do I sound Catholic?

An0nimus:

Nope but I have a couple as good friends. Do I sound Catholic?

You always seem like one of them...I don't hate them tho...

An0nimus:


You and Tony miss him. Still can't speak for the rest

Lolz who wouldn't miss a funny nuisance like LB ... maybe those people were scared of loosing their faith

An0nimus:


Please explain this your post in simpler terms. I don't quite get it. Thanks.

APC is trying to islamize nigeria ....... It's a plan to counter n conquer christians in Nigeria ........


The reason why boko haram is displaying all this nuisance we are seeing is because the nigerian constitution was built under the laws of ISLAM "sharia" .....

I know most of you'll doubt me but it's true


Have you every wondered why boko haram wants sharia so badly??

Have you ever wondered why national n all the zonal chairman in APC are muslims?

Nowadays muslims are being pushed n voted in as Honorables n senators ...... What about the Christian ..



CHRIsTiANS where do we stand Politically??......



It's a war that has been smartly planned for more than 30years


When buhari talked about declaring the state of sharia if he becomes president ... He wasn't stupid ... He knew what he was saying ... Its because it was in the constitution

The constitution recognizes the high court of sharia

N in sharia anybody who's not a muSLIM must be killed

Have you ever wondered why all the christian schools are being controlled by the government? ..... Look around your neighborhood ... You'll barely see a christian school ... N if you see one it's being funded n controlled by the government instead of the Christian Missionaries because the government ordered a Hand over of all christian Missionary schools...n every single one is being controlled by them

Buh check out the muslim schools ... They are being funded by the mosques ..... Now gimme one reason why christian schools are being funded by the government instead of christians??

Do You know that fashola was a christian buh he converted to a muslim?

Have you ever wondered why obanikoro couldn't win the pdp primaries??... Its because if HE does.... APC'll win ... N. Muslims'll be in control of Lagos ......

Check out the whole APC governors in the southwest........ 90% of them are all muslims

Go to your local government chairman N spy you'll see that He's a muslim

In the southwest n in lagos Muslims are trying to colonize Everyone .....BECAUSE its a PLAN

If they succeed CHRISTIANS are FINISHED

It's a plan ... Don't be fooled

Most of you are saying that jonathan aint working

Have you ever wondered why boko haram are this disturbing??


Jonathan is a christian ... Tho he might not be a strong one buh still he's causing heart ache to the hausa's who want to islamize nigeria ........


When yar'adua was the president how often was he queried by other political parties

Remember when yar'adua died .... They dint want to announce it ........ Because if they do ... Jonathan who's a Christian will be in power

Upon all they did ... HE still rose to power .... It's Not A SCAM or Mere luck that His name is GOODLUCK
It's GOD's WORK ....... It's GOD's doing ....

They are trying to jeopardize his efforts .........

N we christians aren't giving his the support he needs & duely deserves

The CAN (christain association of nigeria) aren't trying .... Instead of them to support they are back stabbing their own

Do you know that christians in nigeria barely vote during elections??....... Its true ...... Go & check WE HaRDLY DO ...
But check out the muslims .. They come out in huge numbers to make sure a muslim wins An election while christians sit at home & sell themselves out

Thisday's in Nigeria people don't vote because you're from a GOOD or BAD political party but Because you're either a christian or A Muslim & if you watch muslims are wining

DO YOU KNOW that the major owners of the oil wells in nigeria are Muslims??

The buhari APC is PUSHING ...... When he was head of state did the do anything??.........


When idiagbon left Was it not the time buhari was overthrowned .......

Why is it that every major party in Nigeria'll bring out A MUSLIM as a presidential candidate .......... There's a cabal working On it ..

CHRISTIAN be wise or Else over Coming generation will be MaSSACRED like the christians in JOS

NIGERIA is the only country in the world that Has the highest number of religious DEATHS .....& CHRISTAINS are the ONES being killed

IN GERMANY there's an ongoing anti-islamic protest beacause they know that GERMANY is On the verge of being islamized

TURKEY WAS ONCE A christian nation but now 98%
Of them are muslims

They've lost it ....... N it's also a warning to nigeria because if christian don't wise up they'll fail & our On coming generation will suffer for it


We christian are the ones selling ourselves .......... TUNDE BAKARE was the one who MADE APC merge with PDP
He said if they could merge they"ld defeat PDP



IF it HAPPENS tHat APC wins this election ...... We Christians should prepare for the worst

Another worst thing we do is that .... We sell out Our brothers n sisters due to the fact that they're called hausa's while-as they aren't upon All that they're christians
BENUE , KOGI n PLATEAU state R christian states but the muslims are almost on the verge of taking-over those states ......

What have we christians done about it? ...... Absolutely nothing ........ That's why Muslims are being paraded as the core owners of the state ............ WE Christians are failing to do the needful ... & we'will pay for it in a devastating way ...........


Christian blood'll flow ....... IF we don't stop this .... & act fast in the right way ......





CHRISTIANS ARE FAILING GOD is Not HAPPY with WhAt we are Doing .....


WE ARE NOT BEING OuR brothers keeper .....


N if buhari wins we'll pay for it ....[b] Cos a christian will never BE a President of Nigeria [/b]for the next 50-100 years .....



Let's help ourselves .....

ChynoBeats so what exactly do you want us - the Christians on this thread - to do based on what you've said above...

herald9:



You always seem like one of them...I don't hate them tho...




Lolz who wouldn't miss a funny nuisance like LB ... maybe those people were scared of loosing their faith

I may seem like them cause I avoid the arguments. It's my belief that God knows those who are His and they cut across church denominations.

On the second part, someone actually posted that he doesn't miss him. Personally I'm indifferent. Oh well let's not drag the matter. As you can see, we have the Islamization of Nigeria to worry about.

An0nimus:

I may seem like them cause I avoid the arguments. It's my belief that God knows those who are His and they cut across church denominations.

On the second part, someone actually posted that he doesn't miss him. Personally I'm indifferent. Oh well let's not drag the matter. As you can see, we have the Islamization of Nigeria to worry about.

Islamization of Nigeria?
There's nothing like such...
Don't worry yourself over unnecessary matters.
Even if Buhari comes into power -which I doubt,he has enough problems to tackle till he slumps

I bet he won't even have time to think about religion...

-There's BH

-Corruption

-Devaluation of Naira

-Oil subsidy
-etc

Mehn,those people that choose that man are doing him more harm than good. At 72 abi 73,he should be under special intensive medical care...not running a failed political race.

An0nimus, you're funny...
Lol @Islamisation.
I doubt if they can

herald9:
Chynobeats That's ridiculous
Are you trying to incite hatred between the two major religions?

Lol .... Hatred??......... Think mr ....... Go n make research for yourself ..... U'll be marveled.....

herald9:

All we (Christians and
Muslims) wants is a peaceful and united Nigeria.

Omo bros forget. Such can neva happen as far as sunni muslims are concerned ......

Ok here's an article I saw while making my own research

Published on Saturday, 11 January 2014 16:29
Written by E O Eke

Nigerians should worry about the emergency of a political party dominated by those who believe in the transformation of societies through religion. We need to be very concerned, that people who see nothing wrong in the imposition of Sharia law in a part of a country, which a secular constitution, are scheming to gain political powe at the centrer.

We cannot ignore their contempt for the
constitution and the fact that they put their
religion over and above the constitution and
the rule of law. Nigerians should study
carefully the evolution of Egyptian brotherhood and why Egyptians revolted against Morsi. It is like mixing petrol with fire for a political party with religious agenda to gain power in secular democracy.
Turkey is immersed in a struggle
for its soul between secularists and Islamists. They have serious reasons to be very concerned, having seen what Islam has done to Syria, Libya, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt etc.
For the past few years, I have waxed lyrical
about the dangers of religion (Christianity and Islam inclusive) in the way it practiced in Nigeria, how it alters the mind of people with dogmas that borders on the absurd and why mixing it with politics is insanity.

Therefore, I am concerned at the increasing
segregation of Nigerian politicians along
religious fault lines. Until Nigerians as a peoplewake up to the fact that religion, particularly,
one that claims to have the ‘truth’, believes God dictated its holy book, believes that all other people and religion are wrong about God and sees its mission as world domination is intolerant; Nigeria will go the way of many other countries Islam has destroyed. Islam is an ancient religion that has no room for compromise, change, plurality of views or redefinition of its dogmas in light of new knowledge, as Christianity has demonstrated it can.

Islam often brings out the worst of
humanity in its believers. We have Osama Bin Laden, A’Qeada, El Shabab, and Nigerian Boko Haram as present examples. We have studied the role of Islam (religion) in their emergency and continued existence; what we found out is an indictment on the religion which cannot be ignored by rational minds.

‘Moderate Muslims’ do not gain power in
Islamic countries and do not campaign for the
rights of non-Muslims as Christians do in
secular democracies. This is the crux of the
matter. There are no moderate Muslims
protesting against the persecution of Christians
in Islamic countries. They keep silent when
non-Muslims are persecuted and or prosecuted
on trump up charges.

They see nothing wrong
in the use of political power by their extremist
brothers to enforce religious beliefs and
dogmas. They keep silent while Islam
perpetrates injustice in the name of God.
If they attempt to speak up, the told they are not
true Muslims or become targets.
To be safe in Islamic country, you have to keep silent in the face of evil.


On the contrary, Muslims are safe and flourish
in secular democracies dominated by
Christians, while Christians are endangered
species in democracies and theocracies
dominated by Muslims .
In secular democracies, Muslims have equal rights with every othe person. In Muslim dominated countries, Christians and other no-Muslims are second class citizens, and overtly and covertly persecuted, oppressed and discriminated against with an active policy to convert them, eliminate them or drive them away.

The way the Coptic orthodox Christians are treated in
Egypt in particular and non-Muslims in Middle
East in general are two examples.
In secular democracies, Muslims are free to
build Mosques schools and pursue their beliefs within the law. If anyone criticises their excesses and intolerance they claim the person is Islamophobic. They use the same tactics used by homosexuals to push their views because their liberty are protected by the law and they refuse to support giving the same rights to non-Muslims in Islamic countries. In Muslim dominated countries, Churches are a rarity and constantly under attack and Christianity always go into decline as a result of persecution and Christians often compelled to flee for their lives.

Muslim dominated countries frequently use
the archaic blasphemy law, which the Jews used to eliminate Jesus to target Christians and destroy them. Their strong belief that it is their duty to punish those who they believe insults God, is at the heart of their intolerance. They are oblivious of the fact that God is quiet capable of dealing with those who insult him and has not contracted this responsibility to any religion, prophet, church or preacher.

Religion commits its worst atrocities by invoking blasphemy laws, which is why blasphemy laws do not exist in secular democracies. No one who is different can be safe in a Country where blasphemy laws exist. It is a strong feature of the Sharia. The abuse of blasphemy laws is a common feature in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Malaysia and several Muslim dominated countries. The victims are almost always non- Muslims.

In Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Afghanistan,
Pakistan, Egypt, Libya, Algeria Sudan, Malaysia
etc., Christianity is regarded as an enemy and the policy is to ensure the domination by Muslims and discrimination of non-Muslims on the excuse that if they want a good life, they have a choice to convert. Herein lays the intolerance and insensitivity of Islam, its justification of discrimination and persecution of people who are different and lack of respect for their liberty and fundamental human rights.

The history of Islam shows that in Muslim
dominated countries, no other religion
flourishes and all other religions go into
decline and eventually disappear.
The irony of the attitude of Islam is that once it eliminates
other religions from its domain, it turns on
itself in a sectarian struggle for supremacy
because it is genetically incapable of understanding and tolerating differences.

You cannot have a Sunni and Shia Mosque on the
street in Islamic countries ,
just as you cannot have a protestant and Catholic Church on the same street in Northern Ireland.
In Iraq, Islam has virtually wiped out Christianity and is now
engaged in a deadly sectarian war between
Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims. They simply
fight and do not stop to ask why they are
fighting, even long after the reason for the war
has disappeared.

The same Islamic sectarian
war or conflict between Sunni and Shia Muslims
is raging in Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Bahrain,
Pakistan to mention but four countries.
Christians have been living in the Middle East
for thousands of years. It is the home of
Christianity. Jesus was born in Bethlehem in
Judea according to the Bible. In countries
where there were once thousands or millions
of Christians, there are now only a few
frightened ones, who have decided not to flee.
They live under serious discrimination and
oppression. The systematic elimination of
other religions appears to be an accepted tenet of the Islamic religion.

The fact is that Christianity and other religions eventually
disappears in Muslim dominated countries and no Muslim dominated country, gives equal opportunity and access to other religions which Islam enjoys in western democracies.

My fear for Nigeria, is that if political power at the centre, falls in into the hands of those who believe in the transformation of societies through religion as history shows Muslims do;
Such a political party would legitimise,
intolerance, discrimination and inequality in
the name of religion, and Nigeria will begin a
gradual slide into anarchy because of the
attempt to impose Islamic faith covertly and
overtly on all. What is happening in North
Nigeria would become a common feature in
the whole country and we will be presented
with the Egyptian dilemma.

How can I trust those who took Nigeria into OIC
and still justify it, to guide Nigeria into a
secular democracy? It would be unsafe to trust
the future of Nigeria in the hands of those who
introduced Sharia laws in north Nigeria. I
cannot find any reason at the moment to trust
them. This is simply a rational position. It
would be simply naïve to do so, or to believe
that people can change their deeply held
religious beliefs to appease those they believe
are in the wrong; especially when they believe
that their religion is superior to all other
religions.

Since the introduction of Sharia laws
in north Nigeria, several churches has been
burnt down and none of them has been rebuilt.
There has been a systematic cleansing of non-
Muslims from some regions.

The whole of the
north Nigeria is pursuing an Islamic agenda that
discriminates against none Muslims. Islamic
police has been established and they attempt
to enforce Islamic laws on non-Muslims, and
Northern non-Muslim minorities are
endangered.

The introduction of Islamic law, in
north Nigeria, emboldened and enabled Boko
Haram to emerge and now, it is leading the
Jihad to enable Muslim politicians gain political
power and then, they would negotiated with
them by making concessions which would give
Nigeria more Islamic flavour.


Wise Christians are leaving North Nigeria and it
would seem the wise thing to do under the
circumstance, as Islamisation can only get
worse and Islam does not tolerate diversity or
plurality of views. Sharia does not respect
whatever it does not like, approve, understand,
condemns or simply do not know.
It can only tolerate them for a time because of economic
interest, or weakness, until it gains the power
and means to impose its will.

This is why enlightened minds see Islam as a primitive
religion (this is not an insult, but simply
descriptive), a danger to secular societies and
democracies, a threat to Liberty, tolerance,
equality and peaceful coexistence. When
something refuses to change, opposes change
and fails to learn, ascribes to itself absolute
knowledge on the mysterious, it is ancient and
anti-enlightenment.

Supporters of APC may dismiss this concern as
scare mongering and argue that APC has no
Islamic agenda, and that they do not believe it
will happen in Nigeria. But that is the problem;
they apply belief in issue of probability.

Considering the evidence and the past
behaviours of the people involved in APC, it is
more likely that they would, rather than not
have and Islamic agenda for Nigeria. The
presence of non-Muslims in APC does not
affect this. There were non-Muslim in Nigerian
government when a Muslim head of state
dragged Nigeria into OIC. Nigerians continues
to bury their heads in the sand about the
reasons why Ebitu Ukiwe left the government
of Ibrahim Babangida. Moreover, it was exactly
the same thing Muslim brotherhood said in
Egypt before it gained power. More important,
Islam approves of the use of subterfuge to
achieve religious objectives and if deceiving
the people to gain power would enable it
achieve Islamisation, it would use it and the
Quran approves of it. No lover of democracy,
freedom, equality, justice, and civil values can
trust people with Islamic agenda in power in a
secular democracy, and feel safe and secure.
There is no antecedent to it in history.

The danger of religion destroying Nigeria is
real and APC must come clean about its Islamic
agenda for Nigeria. The men who took Nigeria
into OIC and introduce Sharia laws in north
Nigeria are in Charge of the party, and
Nigerians need to know what they have in store
for the country.

APC should now publish in details, its vision for
Nigeria, so that Nigerians can hold it to account,
when it deviates from them; should it succeed
in pricing power away from PDP in 2015.

ChynoBEATS:


Lol .... Hatred??......... Think mr ....... Go n make research for yourself ..... U'll be marveled.....

Omo bros forget. Such can neva happen as far as sunni muslims are concerned ......

Nah,I'll advise you to focus more on humanitarianism and leave religious sentiments and superstitions.

Try to see beyond religion...It's an ill wind that blows no one no good.

Why should we be divided along religious lines when these religions are not really ours?

The aim of religion was to lead people to the Creator and also act as a guiding principles, but since it's lost it's purpose...why not reformat your brain and start thinking like a human once again?

Saying that Nigeria cannot be islamize is laughable.
Jesus said we should watch and pray, we Christains have been doing neither, we have been sitting on the fence and this won't help us.
Muslims are aggressive when it comes to politics because they believe it's the only way to dominate and have a say But we christains? May God help us.

Mintayo:
Saying that Nigeria cannot be islamisize is laughable.
Jesus said we should watch and pray, we Christains have been doing neither, we have been sitting on the fence and this won't help us.
Muslims are aggressive when it comes to politics because they believe it's the only way to dominate and have a say But we christains? May God help us.

Nigeria is already islamized. We already have sharia law in the North despite also having a secular constitution.

However, I doubt Buhari can do much. The old man doesn't have the health to fight a battle with the south

An0nimus:
ChynoBeats so what exactly do you want us - the Christians on this thread - to do based on what you've said above...

...

Mintayo:
Saying that Nigeria cannot be islamize is laughable.
Jesus said we should watch and pray, we Christains have been doing neither, we have been sitting on the fence and this won't help us.
Muslims are aggressive when it comes to politics because they believe it's the only way to dominate and have a say But we christains? May God help us.

I still insist it can't... Or maybe they'll be grooming for another civil war...

And what should we watch and pray for again? You mean all the 100days fasting,every Sunday services and weekly programmes is not still enough?
I'm not even including other programmes and conventions and the daily evangelism done in television, those ones blaring over the speakers as you pass by,the ones they slip into your hands as you pass by...
And Are you saying MFM are just playing around?
What posture are we going to take while praying so that it will seem as if we have started praying?

An0nimus:


...

1) pray 2) start up something that'll help promote christianity ..... There are lots of things we can do ..

Mintayo:
Saying that Nigeria cannot be islamize is laughable.
Jesus said we should watch and pray, we Christains have been doing neither,
we have been sitting on the fence and this won't help us.

Yeah n we are definitely gonna pay for it

Mintayo:

Muslims are aggressive when it comes to politics because they believe it's the only way to dominate and have a say

Not just aggressive they are political bullies
They want to control everything .... I mean every single thing

Those who claim Nigeria will be islamized only expose how little they know about democracy and the duties of the legislative. They mask their bigotry with a false call to serve.

musKeeto:
Those who claim Nigeria will be islamized only expose how little they know about democracy and the duties of the legislative. They mask their bigotry with a false call to serve.

Well, I agree on one side and disagree on the other side.


On one hand, there is no way the south and central Nigeria can be islamized. No president can ever get the power or strenght to do such- especially Buhari.



On the other hand, Nigeria is already islamized in a sense. The Nigerian constitution does not support sharia but sharia was introduced in some northern states.


You mention "democracy" and the "legislative" as if they are barriers to problems such as islamization or human rights abuses. Saudi Arabia has a legislative arm of its government and Egypt is now a democracy. Go figure.




The summary for us Nigerians is that we should focus on education, roads, electricity and human rights. We should try to change the electoral processes and election candidates. ISLAMIZATION IS NOT THE ISSUE- WE HAVE THE ECONOMY AND THE STANDARD OF LIVING TO WORRY ABOUT.

AllNaijaBlogger:


On the other hand, Nigeria is already islamized in a sense. The Nigerian constitution does not support sharia but sharia was introduced in some northern states.

Lol. The same argument can be made that Nigeria is 'christianized' in a sense. It is funny how you God-followers and believers in another world are so desperate to conquer this very one.

AllNaijaBlogger:

You mention "democracy" and the "legislative" as if they are barriers to problems such as islamization or human rights abuses. Saudi Arabia has a legislative arm of its government and Egypt is now a democracy. Go figure.

Of course, they are. Our legislative arm is made up of individuals from different tribes and religions. This isn't so in SA and Egypt. Those countries are both Muslim nations. Nigeria is not. Anyways, a general who didnt islamize the country when he was a dictator surely wouldnt harbour such thoughts in a democratic setting? Oh, that is just common sense speaking.

Anyways, it is entertaining to watch the hypocrisy on both sides. At least, to an extent, hypocrites are fighting for their right to believe. Lol.

musKeeto:

Lol. The same argument can be made that Nigeria is 'christianized' in a sense. It is funny how you God-followers and believers in another world are so desperate to conquer this very one.


Of course, they are. Our legislative arm is made up of individuals from different tribes and religions. This isn't so in SA and Egypt. Those countries are both Muslim nations. Nigeria is not. Anyways, a general who didnt islamize the country when he was a dictator surely wouldnt harbour such thoughts in a democratic setting? Oh, that is just common sense speaking.

Anyways, it is entertaining to watch the hypocrisy on both sides. At least, to an extent, hypocrites are fighting for their right to believe. Lol.

Egypt had Coptic Christians in government and not only muslims, the last time I checked. Also, I fail to see how Nigeria is christianized in the same way it has been islamized in the north with Sharia. It is not like any unbeliever will go to jail in the south for insulting God or the church.


The hypocrisy is the way some atheists here bash christianity and leave islam. I am not calling for christian laws or a christian government. A good government is what we need, PERIOD! Render unto ceasar what is ceasar's.

ChynoBeats posts called me down here, I agree with him/her if Mr Buhari wins this elections ya'll will bow under sharia law like your life depend on it. I did my research so Christians, better pray, and pray hard. Pray without ceasing, like the first church did when the first apostles were in jail.

@Muskeeto is it because your sitting on the fence and don't live in Nigeria and maybe whatever happens doesn't bother you? I am a bit confused.

I wonder if someone who's never set foot in Nigeria worries so much about the country, how does everything affect the citizens?

@An0nimus your sarcasm Hmmm

HumbledbYGrace:
ChynoBeats posts called me down here, I agree with him/her if Mr Buhari wins this elections ya'll will bow under sharia law like your life depend on it. I did my research so Christians, better pray, and pray hard. Pray without ceasing, like the first church did when the first apostles were in jail.

@Muskeeto is it because your sitting on the fence and don't live in Nigeria and maybe whatever happens doesn't bother you? I am a bit confused.

I wonder if someone who's never set foot in Nigeria worries so much about the country, how does everything affect the citizens?

@An0nimus your sarcasm Hmmm

If you think Buhari can islamize Nigeria, then you don't understand Nigerian politics. The worst he can do is support the islamic activities in the northern states but in the south, east and central, such things can't fly.

musKeeto:



Anyways, it is entertaining to watch the hypocrisy on both sides. At least, to an extent, hypocrites are fighting for their right to believe. Lol.

thought as much!

AllNaijaBlogger:



If you think Buhari can islamize Nigeria, then you don't understand Nigerian politics. The worst he can do is support the islamic activities in the northern states but in the south, east and central, such things can't fly.

you keep at that because he isn't yet your president.

Once you have a muslim leader you will know what Chyno was trying to say.

Scared of Nigeria being islamized doesnt only depict paranoia but gross ignorance about certain things!!
Sharia law is not new in Nigeria,the North has been practising their penal code all these years so why keeping unnecessary fears now because Buhari is involved?
Presidents dont just make laws like its beans

HumbledbYGrace:
Once you have a muslim leader you will know what Chyno was trying to say.

HumbledbYGrace:
you keep at that because he isn't yet your president.

I'm starting to wonder if you have ever lived in Nigeria