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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 5:57pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Maakhir: Being a Zoomali gimp I can't possibly expect you to be able to decipher statistics, but I feel I should let you know that %52 of African-American children are raised in single parent households. http://www.prb.org/pdf10/single-motherfamilies.pdf %72 is the out of wed lock birth rate among African-Americans. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr62/nvsr62_09.pdf#table16 Not at all the same thing. One is the measurement of children raised with only one parent in the household(most likely the mother), and the other is the measurement of children born to unmarried parents, regardless if they live together or not. I know I said I was going to exercise patience with you, but next time actually take the time to learn what you're reading, Zoomali, so I don't have to waste my time explaining all of this s&*t over and over. So, anyway we have a %52 single parent household rate while Zoomalis boast a %60 single parent household rate. Congratulations, it's the largest in the UK. Further more, studies debunking the deadbeat AA dad myth to have been beaten to death(no pun). "Lee and kushner's finding actually seem to extend the earlier research by Lee, Kushner, and Cho(200) who found that daughters living with their single fathers performed better academically than others. Similarly, research conducted exclusively on African-American father-headed and mother-headed single parent families is also consistent with the earlier finding." http://soar.wichita.edu/bitstream/handle/10057/5423/t12042_Subba.pdf?sequence=1 A National Profile of Young Unwed Fathers, in YOUNG UNWED FATHERS supra,((finding that never married African-American fathers are more likely than never married white fathers to pay child support, 39% as compared to 34%, but amount paid by white fathers is significantly higher). http://lawreview.law.ucdavis.edu/issues/39/3/color-feminism-state/DavisVol39No3_MALDONADO.pdf "The Coley study also found that black fathers who don't reside in the home are more likely to sustain regular contact with their children than fathers of any other racial group." http://www.cafcusa.org/docs/Boston_College_Report.pdf "For instance, Danziger and Radin (1990) and Wattenberg (1993) found that unwed minority teen dads are more involved than unwed white teen dads in their children's lives." "Lerman (1993) found that black unwed fathers were more likely to live close by and visit their children than were Hispanic and white fathers, and they had a higher frequency of paying child support" "If this 10-father sample were representative, it would indicate that black fathers are more likely than white fathers to take on full parental responsibilities for daughters." "While I wouldn't want to conclude that full-time single parenting be the modus operandi for all single black fathers, it is clear that for this group of men, such a role was "a good thing." http://epublications.marquette.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1003&context=socs_fac Can't say the same thing about all of the proud khat addicted Zoomali fathers out there. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 5:57pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Maakhir: Today's your lucky day, because I'm about to take the time break down the actual numbers of both AA and Zoomali hiv infections. But, before I do that I feel I should take the time to let you know that your statistics are WAAYYY out of date and reiterate that while the hiv infection has gone down for AAs. https://www.iasociety.org/Default.aspx?pageId=5&elementId=16089 It has went up drastically for Zoomalis. http://amisom-au.org/2014/12/hiv-infections-on-the-rise-in-somalia/ Now, lets take a min to look at the raw uncooked numbers regarding the HIV rate for African-Americans. There were crude number of 19,079 new HIV infections in 2012 out of a population of 45,003,665 African-Americans. http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pdf/statistics_2012_HIV_Surveillance_Report_vol_24.pdf#Page=26 And in 2013 there were 2,691 new infections out of a population of 3.1 million in South Central Somalia(tallying the number of infections in the other two regions{Puntland & Somaliland} was proven difficult due to the lack of health care facilities or instability.) Lets do the math to come up with an hiv infection percentage shall we. 19079/45003665 = 0.00042 x 100 = 0.042 percent of African-American were newly infected with HIV 2691/3100000 = 0.00086 x 100 = 0.086 percent of people in South Central Zoomalia were newly infected with HIV Looks to me like the rumors of undercover gay refugees living all throughout Zoomalia must be true. Now, I take it this is the most comprehensive education you've ever received in you life, so I will expect some compensation in the future when your disability check comes in. Maakhir: Well, for one I can spell at a third grade level. Maakhir: Of course, she had a sad childhood if she had to grow up as a somali in the Zoomali community. Luckily for her she made her way out. Actually she has a string of similar videos just like that going in on you losers. lol And you think that posting up some random thread on an anonymous website like topix is some kind of rebuttal to a woman who had the courage to put herself in front of the camera and tell the truth about you idiots despite death and r-ape threats. lol Man I could do that all day with the threads on somalinet. http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=359310 http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=355000 Here's video on a Somali channel of a Somalian chick talking about why she was forced to date a non-somali because all of the somalis were losers. lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0wT1WS7NFk Maakhir: I'm sure this is another rectum-fact, but to me it screams "HONOR KILLING"! Maakhir: Maakhir: I don't know why you'd sit and waste your time posting that huge non-sequitur. As none of it does anything to isolate the African-American(US born black) population and the Zoomali population and then contrast the two. What you did was just clutter the page with information comparing those who are considered black/African-American, which you Zoomalis in America would be tallied under as well even though I don't like it, with whites and hispanics. What does how AAs do in education comparison to whites in America have to do with Zoomalis? Sorry, but I'm not going to let you speak vicariously through white folks. Also, wikipedia's open edit system only becomes problematic when the editors don't cite their sources, otherwise wikipedia is fine. And in this case they did, directly from the US census. You're desperate attempt to deflect the attention away from you own people's abysmal education figures is futile. Stop being a typical Zoomali coward and pull your people's educational attainment stats up and quit trying to hide behind the stats of others. I have no problem laying mine on the table for everyone to see. In fact, I'll do it again. %16.3 US born blacks have obtained college bachelors degrees as of 2003(out of date as I'm sure it's higher now) http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/p20-550.pdf %12.5 Somalia born people in the US have received their bachelors degree or higher. http://www.tadias.com/10/15/2014/census-foreign-born-africans-most-educated-immigrants-in-u-s/ ^^^^It's all in black and white for everyone to see. Maakhir: Smart move. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 5:58pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Maakhir: Sorry, but it was definitely your people in Minnesota who were campaigning to have a bill passed that would allow first cousin marriage. Liberal Democrat & Minnesota representative, Phillis Khan introduced the bill even though she knew it would get repealed by the republican, because she was trying to be sensitive towards your inbred culture. Of course, Republican Minority Leader Marty Seifert criticized the bill in response, saying it would "turn us into a cold Arkansas". "The first-cousin marriage bill is a good example; Kahn learned that it is an accepted form of marriage among some cultural groups that have a strong presence in Minnesota – Hmong and Somalian" http://www.wakemag.org/archive/20050125.pdf Just goes to show how far a lame desperate Zoomali creep will go to be able to hop in bed with his own cousin. *yuck* Read it and weep for yourself. http://isteve..com/2013/12/why-so-much-retardation-among-somalis.html Why else do you think Zoomalia is described as having "one of the highest rates of mental illness in the world" by the BBC with 1 and 3 Zoomalians suffering from some kind of mental illness? http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24539989 ^^You can't make this stuff up. And nothing in the random links you posted even alludes to AAs have a mental illness rate anywhere close to 1 and 3, the highest in the world. So, how could we have a mental illness rate higher than the highest in the world? Another non-sequitur. Do you think it's just a coincidence that Zoomalia has an average IQ score of 68 http://www.photius.com/rankings/national_iq_scores_country_ranks.html While African-Americans have one of 89 and rising!!! https://robertlindsay./2009/05/24/secular-rise-in-black-iq-and-head-size-evidence-for-a-eugenic-effect/ Come on, now. Who do you think you're kidding here? 3 Likes |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 5:58pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
This place is a warzone. Never knew I could find so many Somalis on NL. I normaly support the underdog but with this I make an exception...the purity of our strong Bantu genes Shall prevail... 3 Likes |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 6:53pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Um... I believe Supper was talking about this thread specifically and not a thread made a freaking year ago. Maakhir:If you're talking gang violence, burglary or any other crime in urban settings its extremely petty compared to Somalis robbing/attacking international ships, Somalia being considered the “Afghanistan of Africa”, Somalis suicide bombing people, Somalis engaging in Human Trafficking or Somalis killing each other over clan wars. The World’s Most Dangerous Place; Al Shabaab in Somalia http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/139805/james-fergusson-stig-jarle-hansen/the-worlds-most-dangerous-place-inside-the-outlaw-state-of-somal Paul and Rachel Chandler: why Somalia is one of the most dangerous countries in the world http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/somalia/8135255/Paul-and-Rachel-Chandler-why-Somalia-is-one-of-the-most-dangerous-countries-in-the-world.html I doubt Southside Chicago even ranks close to that. This is already to easy. And fyi(not that it matters), but violent crime in black communities has been drastically descreasing. Nor are African-Americans especially criminal. If they were, you would still see high rates of crime among blacks, even as the nation sees a historic decline in criminal offenses. Instead, crime rates among African-Americans, and black youth in particular, have taken a sharp drop. In Washington, D.C., for example, fewer than 10 percent of black youth are in a gang, have sold drugs, have carried a gun, or have stolen more than $100 in goods.http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/353485/theres-no-such-thing-black-black-crime-patrick-brennan Ha! The Clan's are regional powers, so them fighting over land and resources is much the same as two nation's fighting for the same thing.Violence is violence. Don't try to romanticize the violence in Somalia. Lol! Those gang bangers and drug dealers feel their “crime” is just as justifiable as those Somali pirates or Somali warlords. Those gang bangers and drug dealers commit crimes due to being in poverty. Just like those Somali pirates do so because their waters is not respected by the international community(lol). Again violence is violence, but Somalis do it at a LARGER scale. Maakhir:Now you're just talking out of your a$$. Most of the rapest in America are white. Sex offenders are overwhelmingly white males. Nearly 99% of sex offenders in single-victim incidents were male and 6 in 10 were white (Greenfeld, 1997).http://sapac.umich.edu/article/196 Serial killers! ![]() Statistically, the average serial killer is a white male from a lower-to-middle-class background, usually in his twenties or thirties. Many were physically or emotionally abused by parents. Some were adopted.http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/tick/victims_1.html GTFO here! And prison system overflowing with AA's ![]() More Black Men in College than in Prison http://prospect.org/article/more-black-men-college-prison And if you wanna talk about “overflowing” in prison sytem. Talk about Somalis being the majority immigrant groups in UK prison system. omalis are the largest group, followed by Romanians and Jamaicans, which make up more than 600 of the 2,000 inmates at Feltham Young Offenders Institute in west London.http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/268241/1-in-3-held-at-youth-prison-is-a-foreigner And here I thought immigrants were suppose to be ambitious. I guess Somalis are a different breed. ![]() Maakhir:I see you didn't post these. ![]() For many years Harvard University, traditionally one of the nation's strongest supporters of affirmative action, has produced the highest black student graduation rate of any college or university in the nation. But for some unexplained and possibly immaterial reason, Harvard slipped to second place in 2004. But now Harvard's black student graduation rate has increased to 95 percent, once again the highest among U.S. colleges and universities.And this... So far we have reported the latest available data on the current graduation rates of black students at the nation's most prestigious colleges. We now examine the long-term trend in black graduation rates at these universities over the past seven years. Of the 27 high-ranked universities for which JBHE has long-term college completion data, the black graduation rate has improved at 25 institutions. The greatest improvement in the black student college graduation rate occurred at the California Institute of Technology. The black student graduation rate at CalTech has improved from 60 percent to 83 percent. But there are so few black students at CalTech, usually one or two in each class, that the graduation rate figure can fluctuate to a large degree based on the performance of just one or two students. In fact, the data from CalTech shows that if just two additional black students had failed to earn their degrees, the black graduation rate at the institution would have dropped from 83 percent to 67 percent. Try again. ![]() Maakhir:Pathetic. I notice its a trend for you Somalis to compare yourself to the worst of worst of AA's(you obviously can't compare yourself to our best) and still its futile! LMAO! Because most of the things you listed are TRIVIAL repeat TRIVIAL to the errors Somalis are facing. Smoking drugs ![]() ![]() If AA's are “lowlifes” than Somalis the definition of “sh*t”. Again this is too easy. And of course you don't compare yourselfs to our best. Despite barriers restricting their educational opportunities, the number of African-Americans with bachelor’s degrees increased dramatically between 2000 and 2010, according to the U.S. census.http://www.dominionofnewyork.com/2011/10/25/census-48-increase-in-black-college-graduates/#.VMfN3f7F_s8 45% increase in black businesses drives minority entrepreneur surge http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/45-increase-in-black-businesses-drives-minority-2652178.php Black-owned Atlanta businesses increase 99 percent in five years http://www.ajc.com/news/business/black-owned-atlanta-businesses-increase-99-percent/nQqSz/ That means you too would gave to pull out your best. ![]() I’ll give you another fun fact to chew on. 72% of AA children grow up in single household most of the times the father impregnates the mother and runs away. I can understand why AA women abhor AA men.Source is not working. The barrage of news reports about the black marriage rate gives the impression that African-American women’s chances of walking down the aisle are bleak. A Yale University study found that just 42 percent of black women are married, and a variety of high profile news networks such as CNN and ABC picked that figure up and ran with it. But researchers Ivory A. Toldson of Howard University and Bryant Marks of Morehouse College question the accuracy of this finding. “The often-cited figure of 42 percent of black women never marrying includes all black women 18 and older,” Toldson told the Root.com. “Raising this age in an analysis eliminates age groups we don't really expect to be married and gives a more accurate estimate of true marriage rates.”http://racerelations.about.com/od/diversitymatters/a/Four-Myths-About-Black-Marriage.htm Also... ![]() Try again. ![]() And the other things you said were trival compared to the problems Somali faces. How about we bring this up: 1. Why doesn't the world respects Somalia and use its waters as a dump? 2. Why does Somalia have the CIA running free and committing various operations, further destabilizing the country? 3. Why does Somalia has one of the largest coastlines in Africa, which is a plus for fishing and yet people are starving from famine? 4. Why does Somalia have one of the lowest GDP's and GDP's per capita in Africa? If not the world? 5. Why is the Somali IQ at a 68? 6. Why haven't Somalis contributed anything in the field of science or engineering? 7. Why doesn't Somalia have a central government? Those are more important things than AA's being in gangs or doing drugs. LOL! PS: Most of the drug dealers in American are white American. 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 6:56pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
@Supper SCREW you!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() D*ammit I thought I was going to be the one who was gonna rip to shreds his post. 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 7:20pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
That character seriously tried to say AA's are the majority of serial killers!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 7:37pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
KidStranglehold: I know the answer to question 5, with surporting evidence. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by ababda: 7:39pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Ajuran: Question, Why do you hate the sub Saharan so much? I personally know some of them have their faults, but many i found are good people. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 7:43pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
ababda: Better question is why is he on a site dedicated to people he hates! PS: Somalia is IN Sub Sahara Africa whether he or any other people likes it or not. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by ababda: 7:53pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
KidStranglehold: Don't need the geography lesson i already know. I have a feeling he does not consider himself or his people sub saharan, i know plenty of people especially in northern parts who feel that way. I think his behavior is more of a joking matter than anything else. He is just provoking you guys, we had seen this behavior in our forums, and we learned to ignore it or don't further comment. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 7:55pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
ababda: I'm pretty sure you do, but that was directed at you but him. Based on geographic he is Sub Saharan. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by ababda: 7:59pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
KidStranglehold: Let me be more specific. Racially, he does not see himself "Sub Saharan", and folks utilize the term as a racial thing, and on occasion culture. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 8:54pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
ababda: What kind of question is this? Are you male or female? |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by ababda: 9:03pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Ajuran: Female. Now can you answer the question? |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 9:18pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
ababda:True. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 9:26pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
ababda: Bantus are afrocentric low self esteem cowards, who try to claim us when we have nothing in common. They use Horn Africans in their efforts to lift up Africa. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 10:47pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
ababda: My Sudanese sister, what faults are these? |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 10:47pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
Ajuran: |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 10:51pm On Jan 27, 2015 |
You must be delusional.Its the horn is keeping Africa down, since the Italians left.Furthermore, why would anyone claim you lol.Google horn of Africa or Somalia and see what comes up? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 12:14am On Jan 28, 2015 |
adamskutty: Erm, good for you I don't remember what it's like to dream ![]() |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 12:19am On Jan 28, 2015 |
ababda: I've met characters who see Bantus/etc this way, but I never seen such tenacity. I understand he's been at it for years. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 12:23am On Jan 28, 2015 |
Ajuran:Lift Africa? The Bantu homeland is more prosperous, fertile than the rest of Africa, the desolate fringes where you are condemned to. And where you will remain for the rest of your generations. You are a disgrace that only a person who does not know you would want to associate with. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 12:27am On Jan 28, 2015 |
Fulaman198: But you said I was being mean, and that you would respect me even if I disrespect you...that's where I took my cue. I see that you visit these threads he dominates, and see the stuff he says and the images he posts, but somehow the post with 'slut' is more worthy of censorship than all else. Currently, there are a crap ton of rule-breaking posts. Your section - Culture - is a battle zone, Fula. The irony there is not lost on me, but them again that is largely out of our hands. Hope you're having a good one. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 12:58am On Jan 28, 2015 |
Ajuran: Who here?? |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by TerryCarr(m): 1:01am On Jan 28, 2015 |
Ajuran:the horn of Africa is the poster child for starving 2 Likes |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 1:22am On Jan 28, 2015 |
TerryCarr: The entirety of Africa, and the Black world is the poster child for all kinds of things - the vast majority of it being negative. Notice how the 'debate' centers around negativity? Typical. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 2:08am On Jan 28, 2015 |
EnlightenedSoul: Loll I didn't mean to call you mean, apologies. Most of the inappropriate stuff that noobum (Axum) posts is ridiculous. That's how I see it really see it. I see it as so ridiculous that it's hilarious. I don't agree with him by any means as I find Bantu people extremely friendly. I love all African people and welcome them with open arms. In regards to threads that he dominates, he doesn't dominate anything here loll. He just makes a fool out of himself. Be it as it may, call it white knighting or w/e (I'm no white knight… I'm a konowo Pullo), I won't have anyone or tolerate anyone calling you disrespectful names. The culture section is an easy section to manage really. Axum really isn't much of a big deal. People are made big deals only if we allow it. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by barwaaqo: 3:09am On Jan 28, 2015 |
http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/topic/somali-scientists/ Somalis have made contributions to science and technology so lets throw that question away rather silly and it doesn't help the stance. America as we know it would not exist with out AA that's why they continue to down play the true level of contribution to this day. That said let's dialogue a bit more about something that can help both Somalis and AA become even greater people. The two parties should consider the private email option it would make a much more pleasurable engagement. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by adamskutty(m): 7:43am On Jan 28, 2015 |
EnlightenedSoul:This isn't good, not good at all. ![]() ![]() And about u not being able to sleep and dream, there is always a way out for u, i can make u have a good sleep and have lovely dreams alongside me. Believe me, when u close ur eyes, it won't remain shut forever but u will be awaken by the cool morning breeze and the rising sun smiling at u from the east. ![]() And a guardian by your side. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 7:43am On Jan 28, 2015 |
TerryCarr: Then if thats the case, I shouldn't hear from the Afrocentrics who debate whites about how All Africans aren't ugly with thick lips and nappy hair and wide noses, by using Somalis/Ethiopians. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 7:44am On Jan 28, 2015 |
ADAMSKUTTY, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? I THOUGHT THE BOKO BOYS TOOK YOU AWAY AND CONFUSED YOU FOR A SCHOOL GIRL ![]() THEY MUST HAVE RELEASED YOU AFTER ATTEMPTING TO COMMIT THE DEED ![]() |
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