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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 6:18pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
gallivant: Somalia as a country was created in 1960. But Somali is an ethnicity, and exist for hundreds of years, and had many kingdoms. Fyi, in the video, he says Somalis sailed an helped Kenyans against the Portuguese, in reality they helped the Arabs who enslaved the Kenyans against the Portuguese. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z98Thrtwf8A |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 6:19pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
adamskutty: My history is not those of Southern Ethiopia. My history is documented and well known by many people. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 6:19pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
Ajuran: They were? Lol Oman controlled the area for a couple hundred years. Where did you learn your history? The Somali curriculum? To the point that Swahili is made a good chunk of Arabic. More like 5pc arabic, and linguists all over the world has classified the Swahili language as a Bantu tongue. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 6:27pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
Ajuran: So did the Zulu's, Fulanis and all other African ethnicities.What's your point? ![]() Fyi, in the video, he says Somalis sailed an helped Kenyans against the Portuguese, in reality they helped the Arabs who enslaved the Kenyans against the Portuguese. Armchair historians, the Arabs, Indians and Chinese had been in East Africa centuries before the first Portugeuse Vasco da Gama sailed up the coast and saw the wealth. A few months later the Portugeuse armada came for the wealth and kicked out the Sultan. If you don't know history I can teach you. 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by adamskutty(m): 6:32pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
Ajuran:That is a lie! 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by TerryCarr(m): 6:45pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
Ajuran:if they were slaves they would not be living the way they do |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 7:02pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 7:05pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
TerryCarr: True. Even colonialism, Islam and Christianity didn't influence them.This clown is just blabbering nonesense. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 9:21pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
TerryCarr: Slavery in Ethiopia has existed for centuries. The practice formed an integral part of the Afro-Asiatic-dominated Ethiopian society, from its earliest days through to the 20th century. Slaves were traditionally drawn from the Nilotic Shanqella populations inhabiting Ethiopia's southern hinterland. War captives were another source of slaves, though the perception, treatment and duties of these prisoners was markedly different.[1] Slaves were also sold abroad as part of the Arab slave trade, serving as concubines, bodyguards, servants and treasurers.[2] In response to pressure by Western Allies of World War II, Ethiopia officially abolished slavery and involuntary servitude after having regained its independence in 1942. On 26 August 1942, Haile Selassie issued a proclamation outlawing slavery.[3] |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 9:22pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
adamskutty: What part was a lie? It is well known Somali history, its recored by ancient Egyptians, Yemenis, Turks, Greeks etc. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 9:24pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
gallivant: Your just repeating what I said. Arabs had slaves in Kenya and Tanzania for hundreds of years. Portugal came to Kenya after they were defeated by Somalis when Somalia and Ethiopia went to war. Ottoman empire was on the side of Somalis and the Ethiopians and Portugal were allied together. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 10:08pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
Ajuran: No am not.It was not just Arabs, slavery was a common practice at that time.Everybody had slaves. Also, the East African Coast was very multicultural, some Arabs happened to be slaves as well. Portugal came to Kenya after they were defeated by Somalis when Somalia and Ethiopia went to war. Huh? When did you fight the Portugeuse? Considering the Suez Canal was not in existence, the Portugeuse had to go around South Africa and sail up thr East African coast before they reached Somalia. Why would they fight Somalis anyways? Did you have established city states to conquer or trade routes to the East to monopolize? History has to be surportted with facts. ![]() Ottoman empire was on the side of Somalis and the Ethiopians and Portugal were allied together. The Ottomans were a colonizing force, they colonized Arabia why would they be on your side, considering they had no interests south of Egypt? Ethiopia and Portugal allied together?When and why lol? This guy just types what he wished had happened!! Pure jokes. ![]() |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 10:15pm On Jan 28, 2015 |
Ajuran: You have not addressed his point. The Ethiopia(Abyssinia) of the past is not the same as today. The Ras' realm did not extend to the Nilotic hinterland, even the most humble of history students would know this.Learn to read and comprehend before you type. ![]() |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 1:33am On Jan 29, 2015 |
gallivant: Arabs in east africa were not slaves. They came from Oman to enslave Kenyans,tanzanians, thats the reason why so much of their language has been wide spread in east africa and mixed with bantu languages : SWAHILI Funny you speak of a region your not from. The entire area was the backwaters of Somalis/Arabs especially after Somalis defeated Ethiopia in 1500's. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by TerryCarr(m): 1:41am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Ajuran:Swahili is a Bantu language with Arabic influence. Somali has a more Arabic words then Swahili. most Muslim groups have an Arabic influence to a degree |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 2:05am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Ajuran: Ha! That's entirely my point. ![]() |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 2:13am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Ajuran: The wahabbi funded education system(masjids) would not teach you that. They came from Oman to enslave Kenyans,tanzanians, thats the reason why so much of their language has been wide spread in east africa and mixed with bantu languages : SWAHILI They came mostly to trade for spices gold and ivory.The Omani arabs were also the last batch of arabs to the region, having been routed by the Ottomans in their realms.Languages actually spread faster through trade, a proven fact.Swahili was a medium of exchange stupid.It is not only influenced by Arabic but also Portuguese, Indian and Persian. Funny you speak of a region your not from. If you were smart enough you would have figured where I am from.Maybe its the retardation aspect? ![]() The entire area was the backwaters of Somalis/Arabs especially after Somalis defeated Ethiopia in 1500's. The Somali state has only existed since the 60s and your history compared to your neighbors is mediocre.Which war did you fight in 1500s with Ethiopia?Facts man, where are the facts?!! |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 2:52am On Jan 29, 2015 |
gallivant: I have lived in america mostly my whole life. Somalis had sultanates. Ajurran, Adaal. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 2:54am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Google abyssinian-Adal war. Adal was a Somali Kingdom Between 1529 and 1543, the Somali military leader Imam Ahmad ibn Ibrahim al-Ghazi defeated several Ethiopian emperors and embarked on a conquest referred to as the Futuh Al-Habash ("Conquest of Abyssinia" ![]() |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by barwaaqo: 3:00am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Pan africanism has to be the answer ![]() There's nothing a little pan africanism can't cure. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 3:02am On Jan 29, 2015 |
barwaaqo: Your pathetic, still trolling as a Somali.......still? If you were Somali, you would know how anti-pan african Somalis are. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by barwaaqo: 3:03am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Ajuran: ![]() |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 3:13am On Jan 29, 2015 |
barwaaqo: Its been over a month, your still trolling as a Somali. Whats funnier is your doing a terrible job. Your talking about Somalis being Pan African, yet the primary goal of Somali government and Alshaabab is to take Northern Kenya and Ogaden. The most liberal Somali government is anti Negro, and Bantus in Somali who are a small minority have no rights and live like 2nd class citizens. Good luck pretending to be Somali. A simple Somalinet read, will wake up any delusional afrocentric who is skeptical. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by barwaaqo: 3:17am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Ajuran: Whats funny is our somali leaders in minnesota wanting to promote pan africanism ![]() |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 3:22am On Jan 29, 2015 |
barwaaqo: Lol, I live in Minnesota. Their is no Pan African at all. Stop lying to yourself. Somalis opened their own schools, shops, etc. The mosques dont like NON muslims, and the non religious Somalis are patriotic and want Somalia to be successful and nothing to do with Africans. If Somalis can't get along with Kenyans, or the Bantus inside of Somalia, do you thing they are magically Pan African now? I guess a crazy person, will create their own world view. Just a few days ago, A Somali shop owner killed a Negro is South Africa. Somalis are more likely to be Pan Arab than Pan African. Somalia is part of the Arab league, even though we are not Arab. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by barwaaqo: 3:25am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Go outside and have some sunshine in Minnesota ![]() |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 3:44am On Jan 29, 2015 |
Ajuran: I, like most people would think that their primary goal would be reconstruction unless they are retards.Well, come get Ogaden and Northern Kenya back.. ![]() |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 3:51am On Jan 29, 2015 |
gallivant: Their already inhabited and governed by Somalis. Only a matter of time. Bantus are narrow minded and some how falsely believe that a land mass can dictate a peoples ambitions and world view. Somalia and Djibouti joined Arab league to counter balance African Union, and Somalia's staunchest supporter in the African Union are Egypt and Sudan. |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by gallivant: 1:40pm On Jan 29, 2015 |
Ajuran: Governed by Somalis?Are you sure? Reality dictates otherwise. Bantus are narrow minded and some how falsely believe that a land mass can dictate a peoples ambitions and world view. People and their ambitions can be controlled if need be Bantu and Woyane interests are superior in those lands. Somalia and Djibouti joined Arab league to counter balance African Union, and Somalia's staunchest supporter in the African Union are Egypt and Sudan. Both are insignificant economically and militarily.They were dead weight to the continent.To make my point short, you did us a great favor.. ![]() |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 3:03pm On Jan 29, 2015 |
Ajuran:Unfortunately, the brothers you are talking about don't share the same spirit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB0zTR0FYuE |
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 3:22pm On Jan 29, 2015 |
Ajuran:Look what I found; Kenyas workng & living in Somali like First class Citizens- At the Cafe you can see more Kenyans of Bantu Origin in the background; building your country piece by piece waiting for you to return home to find a better place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuRZrW2Ii54 |
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