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Question For Believers by Dolemite(f): 4:36pm On Jan 29, 2015
I just finished reading Things fall apart (great book) and I just thought to myself, If God really does exists, why did he not reveal himself without the use to Caucasian evangelists, I mean why didn't the white people come to Africa to find 'savages' locals worshiping Jesus, why didn't God send angels to spread his word? Why didn't Okonkwo Ebubedike experience the burning bush telling him about Yahwe and his mighty powers, same goes for Muslims, without Arabs seems like Allah is powerless, same with God, it makes no sense that it has NEVER been recorded that locals experienced Christianity years before a white man stepped into their land.

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Re: Question For Believers by Hawlahscho(m): 4:48pm On Jan 29, 2015
I ws here
Re: Question For Believers by BrightEye(m): 4:55pm On Jan 29, 2015
This indicates the fact that our ancestors blindly accepted what was not in there instinct. Also, this means we don't need religion of whatsoever, in order to rightfully exist in this world.

There is languages in nature; that lead us to the right way and can be understood by individual humans, the one our ancestors read to live a natural life before they became deluded!
Re: Question For Believers by frank317: 4:59pm On Jan 29, 2015
Sometimes I wonder a lot of things too. Its very clear that Christianity, like wise Islam is a sham.

We have been duped for long. The bad news is that we call on Jewish pagan god and believe so much in them like we are being controlled by remote control.

How can a whole creator of the world use such means to spread information about him? How can he chose a tribe among all tribes in the whole world? How can he neglect all his other creations like they didn't exist and spent more than a thousand years interacting with just the Jews? Even when his so called son came, he said nothing about other tribes in Africa and Asia.

I have never been so happy that I have been liberated from the shackles of religion.

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Re: Question For Believers by Thugnificent(m): 8:17pm On Jan 29, 2015
frank317:
Sometimes I wonder a lot of things too. Its very clear that Christianity, like wise Islam is a sham.

We have been duped for long. The bad news is that we call on Jewish pagan god and believe so much in them like we are being controlled by remote control.

How can a whole creator of the world use such means to spread information about him? How can he chose a tribe among all tribes in the whole world? How can he neglect all his other creations like they didn't exist and spent more than a thousand years interacting with just the Jews? Even when his so called son came, he said nothing about other tribes in Africa and Asia.

I have never been so happy that I have been liberated from the shackles of religion.
What do you understand by the term "Gentiles"?
Re: Question For Believers by frank317: 10:38pm On Jan 29, 2015
Thugnificent:
What do you understand by the term "Gentiles"?

Honestly... I don't know what it means

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Re: Question For Believers by Mcowubaba: 10:41pm On Jan 29, 2015
Dnt Question, just believe, Repent nd be SAVED, leave all dis facts, reasoning, science, it will only lead u to doom, I know what I am talking abt...
Re: Question For Believers by johnydon22(m): 11:11pm On Jan 29, 2015
Mcowubaba:
Dnt Question, just believe, Repent nd be SAVED, leave all dis facts, reasoning, science, it will only lead u to doom, I know what I am talking abt...
No you dont know what you are saying!! can you take a look at what you just wrote? "Dont question just believe" what type of stupid blind belief.. Some ancient men wrote that snakes use to talk and decieved some woman to eat an apple" and you just believe? where exactly did you drop your brain? Habaaa nawa oooo... Repent from what? Saved from what?

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Re: Question For Believers by frank317: 11:22pm On Jan 29, 2015
Mcowubaba:
Dnt Question, just believe, Repent nd be SAVED, leave all dis facts, reasoning, science, it will only lead u to doom, I know what I am talking abt...

Ya and u expect Muslims and Hindus to question their believes right?

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Re: Question For Believers by Mcowubaba: 11:57pm On Jan 29, 2015
frank317:


Ya and u expect Muslims and Hindus to question their believes right?
the OP was specifically referring to Christainity, nd my reply is Specifically for Christianity, i neva Generalised , pls take note..remain blessed
Re: Question For Believers by Mcowubaba: 12:18am On Jan 30, 2015
johnydon22:

No you dont know what you are saying!! can you take a look at what you just wrote? "Dont question just believe" what type of stupid blind belief.. Some ancient men wrote that snakes use to talk and decieved some woman to eat an apple" and you just believe? where exactly did you drop your brain? Habaaa nawa oooo... Repent from what? Saved from what?
Repent from condemnation, be Saved from the sins of the world, Blessed R those who have not seen but yet believed, U can never ever 'understand GOD' if u do, HE is no more GOD, only wat HE choses to reveal to you is what you will knw, those Ancient words R pure nd True nd yes the r Beyond 'normal' human science, logic nd understanding, whic is nt needed in Christianity, in Christianity we R xpected to serve God in Spirit, Truth nd Honesty wen u do this, the ancient words=BIBLE, will mak more meaning to u, without this u may neva ever understand the Bible, it will all look like a 'fairy tale' Everybody can read the Bible nd intepret it to suite anything the want, but the Bible has only 1 message of Truth without (in lay mans term)= 'subscription' u will nt knw the truth, how do u then subscrib= repent and Accept Jesus Christ as ur personal Lord nd saviour
nd nt only my Brain but my whole body is intact cheesy...God bless u bro...CHANGE=

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Re: Question For Believers by Mcowubaba: 12:18am On Jan 30, 2015
johnydon22:

No you dont know what you are saying!! can you take a look at what you just wrote? "Dont question just believe" what type of stupid blind belief.. Some ancient men wrote that snakes use to talk and decieved some woman to eat an apple" and you just believe? where exactly did you drop your brain? Habaaa nawa oooo... Repent from what? Saved from what?
U r missing a lot chai, come nd join the fellowship of Christians,,
Re: Question For Believers by johnydon22(m): 12:23am On Jan 30, 2015
Mcowubaba:
U r missing a lot chai, come nd join the fellowship of Christians,,
lolzzzzz...this guy self...
Re: Question For Believers by johnydon22(m): 12:27am On Jan 30, 2015
Mcowubaba:
Repent from condemnation, be Saved from the sins of the world, Blessed R those who have not seen but yet believed, U can never ever 'understand GOD' if u do, HE is no more GOD, only wat HE choses to reveal to you is what you will knw, those Ancient words R pure nd True nd yes the r Beyond 'normal' human science, logic nd understanding, whic is nt needed in Christianity, in Christianity we R xpected to serve God in Spirit, Truth nd Honesty wen u do this, the ancient words=BIBLE, will mak more meaning to u, without this u may neva ever understand the Bible, it will all look like a 'fairy tale' Everybody can read the Bible nd intepret it to suite anything the want, but the Bible has only 1 message of Truth without (in lay mans term)= 'subscription' u will nt knw the truth, how do u then subscrib= repent and Accept Jesus Christ as ur personal Lord nd saviour
nd nt only my Brain but my whole body is intact cheesy...God bless u bro...CHANGE=
hahahahahaha it amazes me the type of brainz these religious fanatics have... anyways leme just continue with my questions for question sake..
Condemnation?...Who condemned you in the first place?
Saved from what??...

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Re: Question For Believers by Mcowubaba: 12:28am On Jan 30, 2015
johnydon22:

lolzzzzz...this guy self...
my guy abeg abeg port come Christianity, just try am Ist make i hear say u no go like am....give it a try..
Re: Question For Believers by johnydon22(m): 12:30am On Jan 30, 2015
Mcowubaba:
my guy abeg abeg port come Christianity, just try am Ist make i hear say u no go like am....give it a try..
Lol...Ok
Re: Question For Believers by Mcowubaba: 12:35am On Jan 30, 2015
johnydon22:

hahahahahaha it amazes me the type of brainz these religious fanatics have... anyways leme just continue with my questions for question sake..
Condemnation?...Who condemned you in the first place?
Saved from what??...
Saved from the vices of the Devil (lust, adultery, murder,drunkeness, stealing e,t,c) which will then lead 'U' to condemnation ie suffering, langurish, Hell fire, hades, abyss...Whic 1 u prefer....nobody will condemn u unless u do the bidings of the Evil 1..

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Re: Question For Believers by Mcowubaba: 12:35am On Jan 30, 2015
johnydon22:

hahahahahaha it amazes me the type of brainz these religious fanatics have... anyways leme just continue with my questions for question sake..
Condemnation?...Who condemned you in the first place?
Saved from what??...
Saved from the vices of the Devil (lust, adultery, murder,drunkeness, stealing e,t,c) which is Resident in the World, d evil 1 is on earth roaming about looking for who to decieve
Re: Question For Believers by johnydon22(m): 12:41am On Jan 30, 2015
Mcowubaba:
Saved from the vices of the Devil (lust, adultery, murder,drunkeness, stealing e,t,c) which is Resident in the World, d evil 1 is on earth roaming about looking for who to decieve
Call me when you start taking responsibility for ur deeds and actions and not blaming or crediting any devil or deity for it...

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Re: Question For Believers by johnydon22(m): 12:43am On Jan 30, 2015
Mcowubaba:
Saved from the vices of the Devil (lust, adultery, murder,drunkeness, stealing e,t,c) which is Resident in the World, d evil 1 is on earth roaming about looking for who to decieve
Oh yes i do commit murder, steal, commit adultry as much as i want and the much i want is 0... i set my own standards...
Re: Question For Believers by Dolemite(f): 12:45am On Jan 30, 2015
No one can answer my question! funny isn't it? grin grin
Re: Question For Believers by johnydon22(m): 12:50am On Jan 30, 2015
Dolemite:
No one can answer my question! funny isn't it? grin grin
hahahahaha seriously how du expect deluded minds to think outside d box of reasoning set by an ancient primitive mythical book to give u a reasonable answer...
ofcus none of it makes sense to them either but they just av to believe and not question it cus they av been indoctrinated into it from childhood...grin

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Re: Question For Believers by Mcowubaba: 1:04am On Jan 30, 2015
johnydon22:

Call me when you start taking responsibility for ur deeds and actions and not blaming or crediting any devil or deity for it...
i get ur point on people blaming every misfortune (esp. Africans) on d devil, i believe u r a logical man, EVERY BAD deed/THOUGHT/action is definately 4rm d evil 1, we were created in the image nd likeness of God, but it is d Devil that pollutes our mind to do bad, as u earlier mentioned d serpant giving Eve apple to eat, dat Ancient serpant, accuser of brethren, devil (dis r the names d Bible refers d evil 1 to in Revelation) the evil 1 is always working day nd night trying to cause confusion among humans, so those that r susceptible (low immunity= non believers, weak Christians) will follow his evil.... In physics (i dnt knw weda u r a science student sha) if u R =remember law of Inertia, 1 of Newtons laws of motion whic states that an object remains in a particular postion/motion unless external forces distort it, Same is applicable to humans, a Human remains in a Godly way of life nd practise except the devil (external force) distorts the person...so yes the devil is Responsible for any bad deed, dats what he represents....

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Re: Question For Believers by Mcowubaba: 1:05am On Jan 30, 2015
johnydon22:

Call me when you start taking responsibility for ur deeds and actions and not blaming or crediting any devil or deity for it...
@ Dolemite.......
We think outside the box...i was not indoctrinated into Christianity, i grew up nd knew the True Religion nd Salvation which is Christainity, is a religion of peace, salvation, love nd prosperity...pls tell me wat exactly u dnt like about Christianity in terms of the practise

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Re: Question For Believers by frank317: 7:28am On Jan 30, 2015
Mcowubaba:
the OP was specifically referring to Christainity, nd my reply is Specifically for Christianity, i neva Generalised , pls take note..remain blessed

You don't need to generalize for me to ask you that question.

The question emanated because of your comment.

And I will like to know what you think about it.

Remain blessed too
Re: Question For Believers by johnydon22(m): 7:38am On Jan 30, 2015
Mcowubaba:
@ Dolemite.......
We think outside the box...i was not indoctrinated into Christianity, i grew up nd knew the True Religion nd Salvation which is Christainity, is a religion of peace, salvation, love nd prosperity...pls tell me wat exactly u dnt like about Christianity in terms of the practise
Tell me... what religion was ur parents practising and which of them did yo practise as a kid...
Re: Question For Believers by johnydon22(m): 7:39am On Jan 30, 2015
Mcowubaba:
i get ur point on people blaming every misfortune (esp. Africans) on d devil, i believe u r a logical man, EVERY BAD deed/THOUGHT/action is definately 4rm d evil 1, we were created in the image nd likeness of God, but it is d Devil that pollutes our mind to do bad, as u earlier mentioned d serpant giving Eve apple to eat, dat Ancient serpant, accuser of brethren, devil (dis r the names d Bible refers d evil 1 to in Revelation) the evil 1 is always working day nd night trying to cause confusion among humans, so those that r susceptible (low immunity= non believers, weak Christians) will follow his evil.... In physics (i dnt knw weda u r a science student sha) if u R =remember law of Inertia, 1 of Newtons laws of motion whic states that an object remains in a particular postion/motion unless external forces distort it, Same is applicable to humans, a Human remains in a Godly way of life nd practise except the devil (external force) distorts the person...so yes the devil is Responsible for any bad deed, dats what he represents....
SMH...
Re: Question For Believers by Mcowubaba: 8:04am On Jan 30, 2015
frank317:

You don't need to generalize for me to ask you that question.
The question emanated because of your comment.
And I will like to know what you think about it.
Remain blessed too
i will still answer from a Christian perspective reason being that i dnt knw any other Religion apart 4rm it (u can refer ur question to Holatin for Muslim view)
Back to the question, Christianity started after Jesus Christ 'came into the World nd Commissioned it' which happend in modern day Isreal, so as the World increased, more work was done to spread the Gospel throughout the Earth, dats Y in d Bible u will see Pauls' 1st-3rd missionary journeys all in d bid to spread the gospel, BUT paul nd other disciples did nt live on earth 4eva, so the gospel continually spread tru those who the converted, let me categorically state that over 2000years ago Nigeria(nd many African countries xcept Egypt, Ethiopia,Libya e.t.c) MAY nt have been existing @ the advent of christianity, if it was existing it is nt any where near Isreal, nd note dia wia no mass media in ancient times for u to deliver msg u hav to go dia in person, or send msg(in form of letter as St.paul did) tru birds whic was unreliable (imagine sending a bird 4rm Israel to Togo ) nd u will ask d people u r sending d letter to can d read/understand it
Re: Question For Believers by torchwave: 8:06am On Jan 30, 2015
Dolemite, your question is not without an answer.

First, you must know God is not a God of random actions. He is a God of order. He does things in their order so that each event comes logically after the other.

Know this, if Christ had planned to appear to people of different nations, He wouldn't have sent His followers to go to every part of the world to preach the Good News, He wouldn't have bothered creating the offices of the Apostle, Evangelist, Prophet, Teacher, or Pastor to preach His Word to all Nations, He wouldn't have sent Peter to go to the house of Cornelius to preach the Gospel to Him, neither would He have sent Philip to preach to the Ethiopian Eunuch. He could have appeared to all of them in person and preached His Gospel to them but He didn't do that because God's plan was to make us ambassadors of Christ on earth as He has granted us the ministry of reconciliation (2 Corinthians 5:18), that is, the task of reaching out to people for Him.

Thus, God does not spread the knowledge of His Word by supernatural means but by natural means according to His wisdom and good pleasure of His will.

Does that answer your question?

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Re: Question For Believers by Dolemite(f): 8:14am On Jan 30, 2015
torchwave:
Dolemite, your question is not without an answer.

First, you must know God is not a God of random actions. He is a God of order. He does things in their order so that each event comes logically after the other.

Know this, if Christ had planned to appear to people of different nations, He wouldn't have sent His followers to go to every part of the world to preach the Good News, He wouldn't have bothered creating the offices of the Apostle, Evangelist, Prophet, Teacher, or Pastor to preach His Word to all Nations, He wouldn't have sent Peter to go to the house of Cornelius to preach the Gospel to Him, neither would He have sent Philip to preach to the Ethiopian Eunuch. He could have appeared to all of them in person and preached His Gospel to them but He didn't do that because God's plan was to make us ambassadors of Christ on earth as He has granted us the ministry of reconciliation (2 Corinthians 5:18), that is, the task of reaching out to people for Him.

Thus, God does not spread the knowledge of His Word by supernatural means but by natural means according to His wisdom and good pleasure of His will.

Does that answer your question?

He could have still used both methods, using supernatural means once in the while doesn't hinder Evangelists from moving, the book of Revelation was communicated through supernatural means, doesn't make sense to me relying on one method man: a corruptible, weak, slow, inefficient method to spread a message supposedly so important it could save lives, if you had the sure for cancer it would be wicked of you to use door to door method to spread the word, when one internet post can save MILLIONS...see what I mean?

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Re: Question For Believers by torchwave: 8:22am On Jan 30, 2015
Dolemite:


He could have still used both methods, using supernatural means once in the while doesn't hinder Evangelists from moving, the book of Revelation was communicated through supernatural means, doesn't make sense to me relying on one method man: a corruptible, weak, slow, inefficient method to spread a message supposedly so important it could save lives, if you had the sure for cancer it would be wicked of you to use door to door method to spread the word, when one internet post can save MILLIONS...see what I mean?
Like I said, God is not a God of confusion. He wouldn't ask us to go into the world to preach His message while He appears to people all over the world to do that. That would have negated His command to preach the Good News, don't you think? It doesn't make sense to me.

Besides, in their days, there was no internet Paul or Peter could use to spread the Gospel all over the world.
Re: Question For Believers by 5minsmadness: 8:24am On Jan 30, 2015
Dolemite:


He could have still used both methods, using supernatural means once in the while doesn't hinder Evangelists from moving, the book of Revelation was communicated through supernatural means, doesn't make sense to me relying on one method man: a corruptible, weak, slow, inefficient method to spread a message supposedly so important it could save lives, if you had the sure for cancer it would be wicked of you to use door to door method to spread the word, when one internet post can save MILLIONS...see what I mean?

He has answered you now, but as usual you are not satisfied with the answer. Its like asking why I chose to wear a blue shirt today instead of a red shirt. Its MY choice, I CHOSE to do it that way. You people are not looking for real answers you just come here to ridicule and its very very bad. Why ask a question you don't want the answer to? Its illogical.

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