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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by ababda: 3:37pm On Jan 30, 2015
TerryCarr:

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https://www.nairaland.com/1862144/arabization-sudan


the darfur were being raped by the mixed Arabs

To be honest with you Terry, that is pretty much a tribal affair taking place within, and the fact of the matter 60 percent of the Sudanese army are Dafurians, and that say a great deal.


plus Egypt controlled you many times

I think both me and you went through this route before, but i guess you may have reading comprehension, i blame it on your American school system.

Various pharaohs of Nubian origin are held by some Egyptologists to have played an important part towards the area in different eras of Egyptian history, particularly the 12th Dynasty. These rulers handled matters in typical Egyptian fashion, reflecting the close cultural influences between the two regions.

...the XIIth Dynasty (1991–1786 B.C.E.) originated from the Aswan region. As expected, strong Nubian features and dark coloring are seen in their sculpture and relief work. This dynasty ranks as among the greatest, whose fame far outlived its actual tenure on the throne. Especially interesting, it was a member of this dynasty that decreed that no Nehsy (riverine Nubian of the principality of Kush), except such as came for trade or diplomatic reasons, should pass by the Egyptian fortress and cops at the southern end of the Second Nile Cataract. Why would this royal family of Nubian ancestry ban other Nubians from coming into Egyptian territory? Because the Egyptian rulers of Nubian ancestry had become Egyptians culturally; as pharaohs, they exhibited typical Egyptian attitudes and adopted typical Egyptian policies. (Yurco 1989) [21]

In the New Kingdom, Nubians and Egyptians were often so closely related that some scholars consider them virtually indistinguishable, as the two cultures melded and mixed together.

The history is a little complicated than that, which is obvious. You need to work on your reading comprehension skills.


you guys hate negroid features don't deny it.

Like i said Terry, come to the country an see things for yourself, and you will be surprised what people actually think, and you will be ashamed of what you written, which i think is quite silly. I hope you don't have a inferiority complex terry, i hate to see that.


Lastly, lets discontinue this dialogue because it does not serve the purpose for this thread.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by TerryCarr(m): 4:09pm On Jan 30, 2015
ababda:



Like i said Terry, come to the country an see things for yourself, and you will be surprised what people actually think, and you will be ashamed of what you written, which i think is quite silly.[b] I hope you don't have a inferiority complex terry, i hate to see that. [/b]


Lastly, lets discontinue this dialogue because it does not serve the purpose for this thread.
nope just a distrust towards mixed nations that keep blacks as slaves. it's pretty common for blacks to be the B!tch of the nation where they were/are slaves.
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 5:09pm On Jan 30, 2015
Ababda.

Do you know anything about northern Sudanese?


That Sudanese girl is mixed race, you sound like an angry Afrocentric , Anyway, I am not interested in before the Islamic period and how the people depicted themselves at all, stop living in the past.

This is the 21st Century and a real pure unmixed African men look like these African men.








NOT like these Somalis men or other HOA and northern Sudanese men.









We pure unmixed real Africans need to love ourselves and Our own real African facial features.
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 5:49pm On Jan 30, 2015
@ababda

I would ignore some of these fools as some of them describe to the "true Negroid" idea where "pure" Africans most look a certain. We obviously know Africans are the most diverse group on Earth due being the oldest group of people.

Clearly @KenyanLady does not know what see is talking about with her cherry-picked pics.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 5:54pm On Jan 30, 2015
We do you guys have to say for this?

DETROIT (FinalCall.com) - The United States and the United Kingdom are themselves causing, and then exaggerating, a “crisis” in the African “Motherland’s” largest and possibly wealthiest country—the Sudan—as it’s now called “Darfur,” the country’s president said directly in a live-interactive satellite video conference Feb. 23 with members of the Nation of Islam and reporters attending the Saviours’ Day 2007 conference at Cobo Conference Center.
The U.S. and British news media have consistently exaggerated the death toll in Darfur, just as the U.S. has consistently changed its definition of what Sudan must do, in order to gain Western approval of its peace efforts, according to Pres. Omar al-Bashir.

“There is a problem, and the main cause of that problem is the rebellion,” said Pres. Bashir during the un-rehearsed, and un-censored conversation, which was also broadcast live on Sudanese state-run television. “We’ve done everything possible to try to convince those who bore arms against the state and the people, but all efforts and mediation failed,” he said.

Western, so-called “experts” say an estimated 200,000 to even 400,000 people have been killed and 2.5 million driven from their homes in Darfur since 2003. The true number is closer to 9,000, stated Pres. Bashir.

Pres. Bashir acknowledged that his country is facing a “problem” in Darfur, but he blamed rebel groups that did not sign on to a peace agreement concluded in Abuja, Nigeria in May 2006. Those groups became the focus of media attention, as well as the recipients of aid and arms from outside of the country, he said.

First, there were what the brown-skinned president who would be considered “Black” in the U.S., called “false” charges that his “White, Arab” government enslaved some of its “Black,” African countrymen, and even engaged in rape and genocidal “ethnic cleansing” in order to rob and dominate the country’s Black population in the southern regions of the country. Those charges were proven to be hoaxes by investigative reports.

“Talk of Arabs killing Blacks is a lie,” said Pres. Bashir in what may have been the first inter-active video conference between an African head of state with a Black group in this country. “The government of Sudan is a government of Blacks, with all different ethnic backgrounds,” he continued. “We’re all Africans. We’re all Black.”

The Black “slavery” charges were made to politically bolster the Sudanese People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) and the Liberation Army—the SPLA—in the final months before the conclusion of a 19-year civil war.

With the help of former U.S. Senator John Danforth, a Republican from Missouri, the Islamic government negotiated a peace agreement with the rebels, led by John Garang. The U.S. promised that it would lift economic sanctions against Sudan once the peace treaty was put in force. After concluding a peace agreement in neighboring Nairobi, Kenya, the Sudan is now governed by a “national unity” government, including a Vice President, and several cabinet members from the South.

But then, the Darfur crisis erupted when tribal and cultural differences between nomadic herdsmen and farmers spilled into bloodshed. The U.S. again promised to lift sanctions and a peace agreement was reached last year in Abuja, Nigeria, which included the use of a peace-keeping force of nearly 10,000 troops from the African Union. But the U.S. and British paid more attention to the rebel groups which did not join the Abuja Accord, than it did to those who signed it, said Pres. Bashir.

“There is a problem, and the main cause of that problem is the rebellion,” he said. “We’ve done everything possible to try to convince those who bore arms against the state and the people, but all efforts and mediation failed,” he said.

In response to questions from reporters, Pres. Bashir reiterated his rejection of calls for the deployment of some 22,500 U.N. peacekeepers and police to take over the African Union mission in Darfur, saying it would effectively place Sudan under U.N. control, and he compared the attempt to the U.S. intervention in Iraq.

Nation of Islam Chief of Staff Leonard Farrakhan Muhammad, who extended the invitation to Pres. Bashir, said after the speech it was an important message for the Nation and for others to hear.

[b]“Whatever happens in Africa is the business of Black people,” [/b]he declared. “Don’t you dare suggest this is beyond the business of the Nation of Islam.”

There is no “conspiracy” between the Nation of Islam and the Islamic government in Khartoum, the Sudanese Ambassador to the U.S. told the crowd at Detroit’s Cobo Hall. Any U.S. group can prove the openness and accessibility of the Sudanese government by issuing an invitation to the Sudanese leaders, just as the Nation of Islam had done.
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/World_News_3/Sudanese_president_answers_questions_on_Darfur_3474.shtml


Again the situation is much more complex than "Arab vs Blacks". Plus Arabs aren't a race you m*rons!

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by TerryCarr(m): 9:59pm On Jan 30, 2015
KidStranglehold:
We do you guys have to say for this?


http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/World_News_3/Sudanese_president_answers_questions_on_Darfur_3474.shtml


Again the salutation is much more complex than "Arab vs Blacks". Plus Arabs aren't a race you m*rons!
not no more
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 10:05pm On Jan 30, 2015
They never were. Their collective ethno-lingual identity pre-dates the concept of "race".

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 10:28pm On Jan 30, 2015
KidStranglehold.


say what you need to say without being disrespectful!!
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by TerryCarr(m): 12:44am On Jan 31, 2015
Supper:
They never were. [b]Their collective ethno-lingual identity [/b]pre-dates the concept of "race".
Arab imperialism. think of it like Spanish, true Spanish are from Spain not like the mixed Latin Americans.

arab


arabized
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 1:22am On Jan 31, 2015
TerryCarr:

Arab imperialism. think of it like Spanish, true Spanish are from Spain not like the mixed Latin Americans.

arab


arabized


So according to your logic, anybody expect arabs from South Arabia, modern day Yemen, where the original bedouin tribes arose are arabized arabs. Well, that would include %95 of arabs in the world, and technically applies to those saudi people you posted in the first pic. FYI arabs invaded northeast Africa at around the same time they invaded the middle eastern levant and Mesopotamia. That would make eygptians/sudanis just as "arab" as lebanese, syrians, or iraqis.
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 2:30am On Jan 31, 2015
axum:



I can't blame you for being so angry, you were bred like animal for hundreds of years to be so ugly, and ill mannered. Luckily god created Chicken and Watermelon too cool your Negro anger and appease you since you have no intellect, only the dumbest slaves were bred. You are the by product.
Ever wonder why your own people sold you into slavery? Talk about serious family problems. cheesy


I wish February was not next month, I have to listen to your peoples crazy history of enslavement and suffering for 28 days, luckily February is the shortest month of the year. White people definitely know Irony.

OMG, you are so knowledgeable. You must have had pretty good teachers
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by barwaaqo: 2:40am On Jan 31, 2015
Bashir would tell you the sky is red just to look up and have your throat slit. What can be moronic is taking what a character like Bashir has to say at face value and expecting others to attach some sort of credibility to it. Who can trust that man

Syria iraq turkey palestine north pole arabians we deal with these arabized people at a later date, arabized africans such as northern sudanese are a top priority then come those up further north who are more heavily mixed. Sudanese are the baby so we need to keep the baby and just throw out the water.

We can deal with spaceship arabs at a later date... until then bless yourself with Blessings.
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by barwaaqo: 2:41am On Jan 31, 2015
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by barwaaqo: 2:42am On Jan 31, 2015
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Maakhir(m): 4:41am On Jan 31, 2015
KidStranglehold:


So you're basically admitting that you all bought this onto yourselves. Thanks for confirming.

And btw you're making a big mistake...

I'll be back in about two months thanks to school tongue.

Prepare to get thrashed grin
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 4:59am On Jan 31, 2015
We already stopped caring.



Just stay in school.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 5:08am On Jan 31, 2015
2 months? Really? Like we're even going to remember that long
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Supper: 5:13am On Jan 31, 2015
KidStranglehold:
2 months? Really? Like we're even going to remember that long


Must be when he graduates from internet warrior training camp.

[img]http://www.rbnpress.info/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/internet-war.jpg[/img]
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Fulaman198(m): 6:54am On Jan 31, 2015
KenyanLady:
Ababda.

Do you know anything about northern Sudanese?


That Sudanese girl is mixed race, you sound like an angry Afrocentric , Anyway, I am not interested in before the Islamic period and how the people depicted themselves at all, stop living in the past.

This is the 21st Century and a real pure unmixed African men look like these African men.








NOT like these Somalis men or other HOA and northern Sudanese men.









We pure unmixed real Africans need to love ourselves and Our own real African facial features.

This is utter bullcrap, I can't even believe I'm reading this. So you think Africans are a monolith? Please Kenyanlady, let me know what you are on so I can fool people into using it to.

With the way Africa is so diverse, blacks are not monolithic, only a primitive person with no education on the continent talks like this.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 7:03am On Jan 31, 2015
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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 7:14am On Jan 31, 2015
Warning: Watching 'Black' people define the term 'Black/African' may cause whiplash. Other possible symptoms include: 'hmmmmmm-ing', momentary cross-eye, repeat face-palming, sighs o' exasperation, a sharp raise-of-eyebrow, and uncontrollable eye-rolling.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 8:42am On Jan 31, 2015
KenyanLady:


Nonsense, they are clearly not full Somali, they are half Bantu and half Somalis, Besides, there's no such thing as a full Somalis, most Somalis have some degree of mixed race.



Sh.u.t your dum.b.a.s.s up, I am an anthropologist specializing in the facial bone structure of Africans, So I know who is and who isn't Somali ethnic.



Your opinion is irrelevant because you are an uneducated skinny refugee.





Thank you!!

Axum is mentally challenged a.s.s.h.o.l.e who most definitely needs a psychiatric help.




That Somali man is right, 90 percent of Somalis are in fact either mixed with Bantus East African, South Asian or Arabs.

Case in point these Somali men.










There is no possibility that African men would ever look like these Somali men, unless of course they are mixed race.
You are retarded.The last pic would fit quite nicely in Nyeri,Central and Taita,Coast.There are light skinned Kikuyus and Taitas in Kenya.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 8:58am On Jan 31, 2015
Samaale:

really we dont know history wasnt zanj or kenyans shipped as slaves by the arab since year 600?

let me show you real history you guys were runned by pretty much everyone. at the same time shipped as slave soldiers to the middeleast.
The arabs fu*ked/raped some of you guys in the as's and made kunte kente SWAHILI!



hahaha they were enslaving you guys dont act like that didnt happen and as for somalia kicking the super power portugese ass out
The land of the zanj slaves.



Denial is strong with this one!
Retarded analogies.
1.No Kenyans were being shipped out by the Arabs from the East African coast because Africans did not live at the Coastal strip in Kenya but in the ridges behind the Coastal strip!!! The Mijikenda kayas were heavily fortified abd Arabs never dared to venture into the interior because the Galla and Maasai held frequent raids that lead to massacres in the interior
The reverse is true. The Arabs BROUGHT slaves to Kenya because they couldn't capture the Kenyans as slaves.The descendants of these slaves who mostly came from Tanzania live in Freetown ,Mombasa.
2.The Arabs never raped anybody to form the Swahili.They MARRIED Africans to form the Swahili. You retard!!!
3.Clearly you do not know how low Kenyan Somalis,especially the elite ones regard Somalis from Somalia.
Yusuf Hajj's son almost died in Westgate.He lead the Kenyan offensive into Somalia.So guess how he feels about retards like you.
The hijabless Amina Mohammed is arranging for the Deportation of Somalis from Kenya as we speak.
Duale wants Jubaland to be Kenya's 49th County administered from Garissa.
Lol!!!The three are typical Kenyans with typical Kenyan mentalities!!!

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by TerryCarr(m): 3:36pm On Jan 31, 2015
Supper:


So according to your logic, anybody expect arabs from South Arabia, modern day Yemen, where the original bedouin tribes arose are arabized arabs. Well, that would include %95 of arabs in the world, and technically applies to those saudi people you posted in the first pic. FYI arabs invaded northeast Africa at around the same time they invaded the middle eastern levant and Mesopotamia. That would make eygptians/sudanis just as "arab" as lebanese, syrians, or iraqis.
a lot of these guys don't like being called Arab.
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by barwaaqo: 6:50pm On Jan 31, 2015
Africans do not have any neanderthal dna.

Africans are thinking too much again about the external wonderland.

Europe does not want them. The middle east does not want them. America does not want them. East asia does not want them. Antarctica hates them.

Where are these africans going to go who will take them?

North pole can't be an option santa and the elves will not take them.

Maybe their diversity can save them
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 7:47pm On Jan 31, 2015
Fulaman198:


This is utter bullcrap, I can't even believe I'm reading this. So you think Africans are a monolith? Please Kenyanlady, let me know what you are on so I can fool people into using it to.

With the way Africa is so diverse, blacks are not monolithic, only a primitive person with no education on the continent talks like this.

Race and genetics topics is too difficult for you to understand, I suggest you stick to what you know and do best which is licking a woman's foot.


GERALD710:

You are retarded.The last pic would fit quite nicely in Nyeri,Central and Taita,Coast.There are light skinned Kikuyus and Taitas in Kenya.

Have I ever mentioned skin color?

I think you have an inferiority complex, anyway, Somalis are on average lighter skinned than us Kenyans..

Please don't disturb me again.
Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 8:00pm On Jan 31, 2015
TerryCarr:

Swahili are Bantu not arab
I happen to be Swahili.I think I know the difference.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Nobody: 8:03pm On Jan 31, 2015
KenyanLady:


Race and genetics topics is too difficult for you to understand, I suggest you stick to what you know and do best which is licking a woman's foot.




Have I ever mentioned skin color?

I think you have an inferiority complex, anyway, Somalis are on average lighter skinned than us Kenyans..

Please don't disturb me again.
Really.Inferiority complexI happen to look alot like that.Am from Mombasa .Ama wafikiria nintoka wapi??

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 8:41pm On Jan 31, 2015
KenyanLady:


Yes Northern Sudanese, Ethiopians, Somalis and Eritreans are mixed race, you guys are not real Africans.


Northern Sudanese girl, She doesn't look very much like real African girl.




Your education is terrible.


1- No such thing as looking African, its a continent.

2- It's like saying Indians are not Asian because they dont like Chinese

3- You are simple minded and assume that because Cushitic people dont look like Bantus/Nilotic that we are Mixed. Have you ever thought we might be the original humans, as the horn provides the two ways to go out of Africa via red sea, and nile river? Maybe have you thought that you are the one who degenerated downward from the original people in the horn of Africa?

4- This map is based on Genetics and tells you who came first, and you can see as the people move farther away from the Horn, the less they have our DNA, which means people came from the Horn.

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Re: Why Can't People Embrace Pan-africanism? Why So Much Hatred On This Forum?? by Ajuran: 8:43pm On Jan 31, 2015
GERALD710:

Really.Inferiority complexI happen to look alot like that.Am from Mombasa .Ama wafikiria nintoka wapi??


Aren't those the ones who are Mixed? No pure Bantu/Negro can look like a Somali/Ethiopian.

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