TerryCarr:

i mean "white" north Africa

What do you mean "white" North Africa? Do you know North Africa is not one monolithic entity and contains various groups both "white", middle eastern and "black" and mixed? The coastal densely parts are usually Middle Eastern and "white"; white especially for Algeria. While the more inland/Southern parts are mixed or black. I.e Libya and Southern Egypt. Are you not aware that Sudan is in North Africa? And most Sudanese in the west would be considered "black" whether they consider themselves Arab or not?

So what do you mean by "white North Africa". Are you talking about the coastal parts?

IMO North Africans like Moroccans seem to have a "mulatto/biracial" look. Neither black, white or even Middle Eastern. This Moroccan chick I use to mess wit looked biracial. She didnt consider herself Middle Eastern, but just North African. She was also into Hip Hop heavily. Though all of this could simply be due to her being Americanized like rapper French Montana.

Algerians to me seem to be the whitest North Africans and there's a reason for that.

TerryCarr:

i mean "white" north Africa

Funny because Tuaregs aren't white, there about 1 million Tuaregs in Nigeria.

KidStranglehold:


What do you mean "white" North Africa? Do you know North Africa is not one monolithic entity and contains various groups both "white", middle eastern and "black" and mixed? The coastal densely parts are usually Middle Eastern and "white"; white especially for Algeria. While the more inland/Southern parts are mixed or black. I.e Libya and Southern Egypt. Are you not aware that Sudan is in North Africa? And most Sudanese in the west would be considered "black" whether they consider themselves Arab or not?

So what do you mean by "white North Africa". Are you talking about the coastal parts?

Pretty much this. Also a lot of "white" North Africa are people with Greek and Roman Ancestry who have melded into African cultural aspects.

KidStranglehold:


Thats what I'm essentially saying. Which is why I made it a point to say it does not mean their mixed.

And I doubt the early humans were making ships. They simply crossed across the Red Zone due to the Red Sea not as large as it is today. The water levels was much lower.

I doubt they made ship but rather get on some small craft

In the mean time Ajuran/Axum is logged onto 2 accounts simultaneously:

Fulaman198:
In the mean time Ajuran/Axum is logged onto 2 accounts simultaneously:

A whole new level of trolling LMAO

Fulaman198:



Pretty much this. Also a lot of "white" North Africa are people with Greek and Roman Ancestry who have melded into African cultural aspects.

Actually most of the "white" North Africans are descendants of not only European slave women(which shows in their maternal DNA), but those expelled Muslims from Algeria. This is especially for Algeria, which was sparsely populated throughout history. This is why Algeria is so "white".

"white-looking" Berbers like the Kabyle are actually recent.

Fulaman198:
In the mean time Ajuran/Axum is logged onto 2 accounts simultaneously:

Your site is messed up. I only logged into Axum account so I can see if any new comments or likes also to see when ban was lifted. Then i LOGGED on to Ajuran account. But this site is slow and still shows that I am on two accounts

Ajuran:



I doubt they made ship but rather get on some small craft

They simply crossed. There are no archaeological findings of any water crafts.

KidStranglehold:


They simply crossed. There are no archaeological findings of any water crafts.

It doesnt take much intelligence to get on a log or tie several logs together. But your idea is a possibility too. I wouldn't expect a log from thousands of years ago to be discovered.

KidStranglehold:

Actually most of the "white" North Africans are descendants of not only European slave women(which shows in their maternal DNA), but those expelled Muslims from Algeria. This is especially for Algeria, which was sparsely populated throughout history. This is why Algeria is so "white".

"white-looking" Berbers like the Kabyle are actually recent.

Not all Kabyle Berbers are white looking:

[img]http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/workman/algerian/189.jpg[/img]

[img]http://lestizis.free.fr/Divers-1900/Scenes-Types/Types-Kabyles/slides/Femme-Kabyle-03.jpg[/img]




A lot of them have that Southern Sahara/Sahelian look like many Fulani and Touaregs/Tuaregs (who are also Berber).

Ajuran:



Your site is messed up. I only logged into Axum account so I can see if any new comments or likes also to see when ban was lifted. Then i LOGGED on to Ajuran account. But this site is slow and still shows that I am on two accounts

No worries my friend, you know I'm just joking around with you lol. I gotta catch up to you with the jokes.

Fulaman198:



No worries my friend, you know I'm just joking around with you lol. I gotta catch up to you with the jokes.

Your jokes are not funny. I say this in them most polite way possible. As I do not want to get banned again.

Fulaman198:


Not all Kabyle Berbers are white looking:

[img]http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/workman/algerian/189.jpg[/img]

[img]http://lestizis.free.fr/Divers-1900/Scenes-Types/Types-Kabyles/slides/Femme-Kabyle-03.jpg[/img]




A lot of them have that Southern Sahara/Sahelian look like many Fulani and Touaregs/Tuaregs (who are also Berber).

Aye... Thanks for correcting me. I forget the Kabyles were said to be black even during the 18th century!
890 –“The Kabyles or Kabaily of Algerian and Tunisian territories…besides tillage, work the mines contained in their mountains…They live in huts made of branches of trees and covered with clay which resemble the Magalia of the old Numidians…They are of middle stature, their complexion brown and sometimes nearly black.” Written in The Encyclopedia Britannica: Dictionary of Arts, Sciences and General Literature Henry G. Allen Company p. 261 Volume I 1890.

But yes most white Berbers are recent.

Ajuran:



It doesnt take much intelligence to get on a log or tie several logs together. But your idea is a possibility too. I wouldn't expect a long from thousands of years ago to be discovered.

Indeed. But we have to take into account that the Red Sea water levels were significantly lower compared to today. Enabling a those migrates to cross.

Fulaman198:
I bet most Americans won't even know where these guys are from? It shows the naivety of Westerners. YouTube Video

I'm sorry, but why should Americans give 2 f'ks about the subjects (who sing auto-tuned) of your posted YouTube video : Babba s'adou and bano Aishatou ??

Ajuran:



Your jokes are not funny. I say this in them most polite way possible. As I do not want to get banned again.

You can't blame me for trying

KidStranglehold:


Aye... Thanks for correcting me. I forget the Kabyles were said to be black even during the 18th century!
890 –“The Kabyles or Kabaily of Algerian and Tunisian territories…besides tillage, work the mines contained in their mountains…They live in huts made of branches of trees and covered with clay which resemble the Magalia of the old Numidians…They are of middle stature, their complexion brown and sometimes nearly black.” Written in The Encyclopedia Britannica: Dictionary of Arts, Sciences and General Literature Henry G. Allen Company p. 261 Volume I 1890.

But yes most white Berbers are recent.

Pretty much, now this isn't to say that black Berbers don't exist, as a matter of fact, Black Berbers are actually the ones still living in the mountains and living the traditional life, whilst 'white berbers' don't really practise Berber culture and claim Berber heritage but live in the cities. Most people don't realise that North Africa was once all brown/dark brown peoples with looks like the women posted.

kobonaire:
I'm sorry, but why should Americans give 2 f'ks about the subjects (who sing auto-tuned) of your posted YouTube video : Babba s'adou and bano Aishatou ??

Because white people seem to study Fulani people like crazy and yet, they even try to claim us and call us Caucasian all the time. I have never seen so many Discovery channel, PBS and Nat Geo documentaries about any other group except my own Fulani people, and within the Fulani ethnic group, they seem to study the Wodaabe Fulani the most.

Or what about this Berber woman?

The dress and the headress itself is very similar to those found in West African Sahelian cultural groups like the Fulani, Songhai (Sonrai)/Zarma/Gabero/Dendi, Kanuri and other Sudo-Sahelian groups.

The thing is luckily we live in the age of technology, because I can assure you if there wasn't Youtube and other advanced forms of tech, 1000 years from now, white people would be claiming that Fulani, Songhai/Sonrai, Hausa, Kanuri, Toubou/Tebu, etc. etc. people are all white and try to brainwash people into thinking so like they did with Ancient Egypt, and then we would have even naive Africans believing them like we often see.

Look at Bidiat people in Libya:

[img]http://3.bp..com/-leJgIxZuwTs/Te6_wOqvGaI/AAAAAAAAAEo/Du3QLY5_Yvw/s1600/Bidiat+1922.jpg[/img]

Present day Berbers are mainly mixed now due to centuries of intermarrying with Greeks, Turks and Romans:

Siwa Berbers, they can easily pass a Fulani or someone from Nigeria, Chad, Niger, Libya, Southern Algeria, etc.:

Tuaregs in Algeria, though Tuaregs in Nigeria and Niger can look like this too:



That's the former Algerian president meeting with Touaregs.

The problem is that the West has lied so much about Africa and how Africa is like (especially West Africa), that most people have a very false notion of what West Africa truly is like. Even many West Africans are very brainwashed. But for centuries from Morocco to Present day Nigeria, there have been relationships between us in the Sahel and others in the Sahara.

Typical Tuaregs in Nigeria, as dark as Charcoal:

I was just going through KenyanLady's posted pictures and having a very goood LAUGH for the night. I just can't stop laughing.

ArtanK:


A whole new level of trolling LMAO

Indeed lol but he says our site is slow ROFL

Fulaman198:


Funny because Tuaregs aren't white, there about 1 million Tuaregs in Nigeria.

they are mixed

TerryCarr:

they are mixed

Says who? The West?

They are amongst the darkest people in West Africa