Supper:


My vote for the toughest would be Zulus. lol Sorry, I just can't think of anyone that out grinds them in African history. Ashantis/akan would be close second.

But, Angolans even have competition from their neighbors in Congo. Don't forget the Kongo-Portuguese war. Though, Angolans did tear it up in the New World. But, so did ashantis/akan(Maroons in Jamaica).

I mentioned the Kongo-Portuguese war in 2.

IMO I think Angolans suffered more than the Zulu's. IIRC their wars with the Portuguese was longer than the wars the Zulu's fought with the British.

KidStranglehold:


I mentioned the Kongo-Portuguese war in 2.

IMO I think Angolans suffered more than the Zulu's. IIRC their wars with the Portuguese was longer than the wars the Zulu's fought with the British.

Now, that I think about it, you're probably right.

Because not only did they fight a wars over the slave trade.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ndongo#The_Portuguese_Colony_of_Angola

But, they fought a series of wars over colonialism too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_War_of_Independence

Plus, all of the trouble they caused slavers in the New World. As you know US slavers hated them.

KidStranglehold:


How was your experience with American blacks while you were in America?

I ask because some characters on this site like to view African Americans as stereotypical things such as "thugs, drugs addicts, prisoners, single parents,etc" without even ever being in America.

which is funny because whats the difference between this


and this

Supper:


Now, that I think about it, you're probably right.

Because not only did they fight a wars over the slave trade.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Ndongo#The_Portuguese_Colony_of_Angola

But, they fought a series of wars over colonialism too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angolan_War_of_Independence

Plus, all of the trouble they cause slavers in the New World. As you know US slavers hated them.

Ding! Ding! Like I said the Angolans endured a lot of tough things during their history. I see their history similar to Russians. As both groups endured the most hell. The Congolese people would come close.


To me I just see Bantu people in general as the "Slavs" of Africa for MANY repeat MANY reasons.

TerryCarr:

which is funny because whats the difference between this


and this

Indeed.

KidStranglehold:


How was your experience with American blacks while you were in America?

I ask because some characters on this site like to view African Americans as stereotypical things such as "thugs, drugs addicts, prisoners, single parents,etc" without even ever being in America.

My experiences with black Americans was mainly positive with a lot of them treating me specially because I am from Africa. Only 1 or 2 out of the hundreds I met with were hostile towards me. But I've experienced hostility at the hands of whites more so than blacks in America.

The reason that many idi.ots on this site view African Americans as thugs, drug addicts, prisoners, single parents, etc. is due to an anti-black media that portrays not only black Americans in a negative and dishonest light, but Africans and Afro-Caribbeans as well. It's a pity that too many people on this website are too uneducated to know this or not well-read enough that you often see them side or take the side of white bigots whose only mission is to harm blacks.

Black Americans liked the fact that I came from a very proud culture, one of the cultures least integrated with white culture ROFL. Most Africans these days, are proud when they are white-washed or white wannabes. My people the Fulani are not. We are proud of our tradition and even when we become educated, we never forget about our roots.

Fulaman198:


My experiences with black Americans was mainly positive with a lot of them treating me specially because I am from Africa. Only 1 or 2 out of the hundreds I met with were hostile towards me. But I've experienced hostility at the hands of whites more so than blacks in America.

Interesting. Most Africans on here say they experience hostility from AA's due to them being straight from Africa. I know this is not true for the most part since most AA's are curious of African culture. Only those from urban settings are hostile to African culture. Which part of America were you in if I may ask?


Curious to know why you experienced more hostility from whites?

Fulaman198:

The reason that many idi.ots on this site view African Americans as thugs, drug addicts, prisoners, single parents, etc. is due to an anti-black media that portrays not only black Americans in a negative and dishonest light, but Africans and Afro-Caribbeans as well. It's a pity that too many people on this website are too uneducated to know this or not well-read enough that you often see them side or take the side of white bigots whose only mission is to harm blacks.

You and @onila are the least tribal people on this site. And agreed.

Fulaman198:

Black Americans liked the fact that I came from a very proud culture, one of the cultures least integrated with white culture ROFL. Most Africans these days, are proud when they are white-washed or white wannabes. My people the Fulani are not. We are proud of our tradition and even when we become educated, we never forget about our roots.

It mainly seems like coastal West Africans like southern Nigerians, Ghanians, some French speaking Africans and Kenyans seem to be the most happiest to be integrated into white/European culture. This is what it seems like.

KidStranglehold:
Forth would be the Nubians? Even though there really isn't a such thing as one "Nubian" people, the people of Sudan are like the Vietnamese of Africa. If you catch my drift.

Can you explain that? because i don't get it

The nubian people Wadi Halfan, Dongola, among others.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5cJdp1cx2w

Typical wedding.

ababda:


Can you explain that? because i don't get it

Which part?

KidStranglehold:


Which part?

All of it actually?

ababda:


All of it actually?

Well for one there was never really a "Nubian" people during antiquity. Especially during the time of the Ancient Egyptians. There were various different ethnic groups in the area of Sudan. When the Romans came they referred to the people south of Egypt as "Nubian". The Nubian people today are a recent entity. As again the word "Nubian" is recent. Not only that, but Nubians today are not one monolithic people, but various ethnics. You should know this since I'm guessing you're from Sudan.


As for them being the "Vietnam" of Africa. I say this because not only were both the Nubians and Vietnamese fighters that NEVER gave up, people found it EXTREMELY hard to conquer the two. Egypt only conquered Nubia once, but Nubia not only also conquered Egypt but on many occasions came close to destroying Egypt. Not only that, but Nubia not only OUTLIVED Egypt, but the area of Nubia resisted the Egyptians, Assyrians, Persians, Romans(yes Romans!), Arabs, British,etc. They were extremely hard to conquer/suppress. Just like the Vietnamese who resisted the Chinese, Mongols(yes Mongols), French, Americans,etc.

To put it simple the Nubians like the Vietnamese were underdogs always resisting other people.

KidStranglehold:


Well for one there was never really a "Nubian" people during antiquity. Especially during the time of the Ancient Egyptians. There were various different ethnic groups in the area of Sudan. When the Romans came they referred to the people south of Egypt as "Nubian". The Nubian people today are a recent entity. As again the word "Nubian" is recent. Not only that, but Nubians today are not one monolithic people, but various ethnics. You should know this since I'm guessing you're from Sudan.


As for them being the "Vietnam" of Africa. I say this because not only were both the Nubians and Vietnamese fighters that NEVER gave up, people found it EXTREMELY hard to conquer the two. Egypt only conquered Nubia once, but Nubia not only also conquered Egypt but on many occasions came close to destroying Egypt. Not only that, but Nubia not only OUTLIVED Egypt, but the area of Nubia resisted the Egyptians, Assyrians, Persians, Romans(yes Romans!), Arabs, British,etc. They were extremely hard to conquer/suppress. Just like the Vietnamese who resisted the Chinese, Mongols(yes Mongols), French, Americans,etc.

To put it simple the Nubians like the Vietnamese were underdogs always resisting other people.

Oh, you are talking about ancient history. Like i told Terry the history of the region is waaaay to complex.

Egypt only conquered Nubia once,

Due to the fact you had supposedly Nubians in Egypt especially during the 12th dynasty and part of the 18th dynasty went to war with groups further south, So it is pretty much a complex history which does not fit neatly in the narrative of the Egyptian vs Nubian dynamics. We discuss this on instragram, both some like minded Sudanese and Egyptian alike. It was more or less ruling families or good old fashion nepatism. They elevated themselves to "gods". Similar to many countries, group of people or individuals today unfortunately.

for example this
https://books.google.com/books?id=jF2jq5JrkS4C&pg=PA253&lpg=PA253&dq=mentuhotep+ii+nubian+origin&source=bl&ots=SK2UnzDC2a&sig=hL3Szu-YIeL3cWYpsBw0Sz8_2mU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=nlqvVIXZCMrToATghoGYDQ&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=mentuhotep%20ii%20nubian%20origin&f=false

It is a little more complicated. I wish it was not.

but Nubians today are not one monolithic people

When people think of nubians in Sudan, it is usually the people that live in the Dongola, and Wadi Halfa area as i noticed. I know you were saying Darfurian nubians, but honestly i have never heard a Darfurian say they were nubian, but i can be wrong but i never personally encounter that.

You should know this since I'm guessing you're from Sudan.

Family from Sudan yes, and don't assume everyone in Sudan knows about the history of the Nile valley especially from different regions within the country. It is like saying the average (not all) igbos or yorubas from Nigeria is knowledgable about Fulani, Hausa, or Kanuri history, in fact most of them are not. Also, some people may go to the National Museum during primary school especially nile valley Sudanese, and like everyone else may develop other interests, and pay little attention or care less for history, and from most people perspective that is a long time ago. instead of living in the past, most people like to live in the here and now. It is usually people that has a interest in history that really care for these kind of things. You have many people especially Northern Sudanese who are archaeologist along with their Egyptian, and western colleagues that study the history of the Nile kingdoms intensively. Like i said earlier you have a growing group on facebook, instragram, and other social media outlets, that are discussing the history of the region more. That is where i get my information from Sudanese on instragram.

KidStranglehold:

Interesting. Most Africans on here say they experience hostility from AA's due to them being straight from Africa. I know this is not true for the most part since most AA's are curious of African culture. Only those from urban settings are hostile to African culture. Which part of America were you in if I may ask?


Curious to know why you experienced more hostility from whites?


You and @onila are the least tribal people on this site. And agreed.




It mainly seems like coastal West Africans like southern Nigerians, Ghanians, some French speaking Africans and Kenyans seem to be the most happiest to be integrated into white/European culture. This is what it seems like.

I was in California (the West Coast) where I experienced hostility from whites.

I dunno about that man, I'm kind of tribal (well to some extent). I am very proud to be a Fulani man and a Sahelian. Though, I will never bow down to someone just because some slaves want me to, it's never going to happen. I'm too proud. I mean why should I bow down to whites? They are just human beings like me.....They aren't better than me, that's why I get fed up with these modern day slaves sometimes.

We north sudanese are mixed nilo saharan and arab we are not cushite we are more related to other nilo saharans

superdog531:
We north sudanese are mixed nilo saharan and arab we are not cushite we are more related to other nilo saharans

Finally, someone with some sense.Last time I checked Sudan was not in the horn.I would also like to add that Ethiopians are hamitic, not cushites.

ababda:


Oh, you are talking about ancient history. Like i told Terry the history of the region is waaaay to complex.

I'm aware of that. Which is why I said a diverse group of people lived in the area of "Nubia" and were not one monolithic people. Hell some people of "Nubia" not only warred with Egypt, but ALLIED with Egypt. It was not always Egypt and Nubia fighting.

ababda:

Due to the fact you had supposedly Nubians in Egypt especially during the 12th dynasty and part of the 18th dynasty went to war with groups further south, So it is pretty much a complex history which does not fit neatly in the narrative of the Egyptian vs Nubian dynamics. We discuss this on instragram, both some like minded Sudanese and Egyptian alike. It was more or less ruling families or good old fashion nepatism. They elevated themselves to "gods". Similar to many countries, group of people or individuals today unfortunately.

for example this
https://books.google.com/books?id=jF2jq5JrkS4C&pg=PA253&lpg=PA253&dq=mentuhotep+ii+nubian+origin&source=bl&ots=SK2UnzDC2a&sig=hL3Szu-YIeL3cWYpsBw0Sz8_2mU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=nlqvVIXZCMrToATghoGYDQ&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=mentuhotep%20ii%20nubian%20origin&f=false

It is a little more complicated. I wish it was not.

Indeed.

ababda:

When people think of nubians in Sudan, it is usually the people that live in the Dongola, and Wadi Halfa area as i noticed. I know you were saying Darfurian nubians, but honestly i have never heard a Darfurian say they were nubian, but i can be wrong but i never personally encounter that.

I was talking about the Midob Nubians. But my point was that modern Nubians are not monolithic.

ababda:

Family from Sudan yes, and don't assume everyone in Sudan knows about the history of the Nile valley especially from different regions within the country. It is like saying the average (not all) igbos or yorubas from Nigeria is knowledgable about Fulani, Hausa, or Kanuri history, in fact most of them are not. Also, some people may go to the National Museum during primary school especially nile valley Sudanese, and like everyone else may develop other interests, and pay little attention or care less for history, and from most people perspective that is a long time ago. instead of living in the past, most people like to live in the here and now. It is usually people that has a interest in history that really care for these kind of things. You have many people especially Northern Sudanese who are archaeologist along with their Egyptian, and western colleagues that study the history of the Nile kingdoms intensively. Like i said earlier you have a growing group on facebook, instragram, and other social media outlets, that are discussing the history of the region more. That is where i get my information from Sudanese on instragram.

With that statement I was talking about modern Nubians and how they are not monolithic. But good posts and good people are getting involved. Nubian history needs to be more widespread. Its always Egypt getting the shine.

Fulaman198:



I was in California (the West Coast) where I experienced hostility from whites.

I dunno about that man, I'm kind of tribal (well to some extent). I am very proud to be a Fulani man and a Sahelian. Though, I will never bow down to someone just because some slaves want me to, it's never going to happen. I'm too proud. I mean why should I bow down to whites? They are just human beings like me.....They aren't better than me, that's why I get fed up with these modern day slaves sometimes.

What I meant in you and Onila being the least tribal is that you two are more open minded and don't make it a point to ignorantly bash other ethnics or say your ethnic is superior to another. There's A LOT of tribal wars on this site.

superdog531:
We north sudanese are mixed nilo saharan and arab we are not cushite we are more related to other nilo saharans

THANK YOU somebody gets it

gallivant:


Finally, someone with some sense.Last time I checked Sudan was not in the horn.I would also like to add that Ethiopians are hamitic, not cushites.

i know right

Fulaman198:


You really have no idea what you are talking about and I will spend my energy on more sensible and intelligent people like TerryCarr.

Whatever floats your boat.

You sound like an adolescent boy who desperately want to be seen as dark skinned Caucasian, anyway, you are clearly clueless about genetics and race.

KenyanLady:

Whatever floats your boat.
You sound like an adolescent boy who desperately want to be seen as dark skinned Caucasian, anyway, you are clearly clueless about genetics and race.

Genetics is a science who's conclusions depends on how you interpret the data.

Race is a social construct that has been invented to advance a certain social order.

Kenyalady is obsessed with "Afro Caucasian" and doesn't really know why. Check yourself lady

gallivant:


A little dose of reality did him good. The BDF(bantu defence force)is still making regular patrols round here. Dude has been reduced to talking about vajayjay!

This monkey is still alive, I thought the HIV virus has taken you from us

Just patrolling guys.No problem here.

superdog531:
We north sudanese are mixed nilo saharan and arab we are not cushite we are more related to other nilo saharans

You are totally wrong, Northern Sudanese are more closely related to Horn of Africans than they are to Nilo Saharans or any other Africans, and that's why northern Sudanese women and HOA women are in fact indistinguishable from one another.

Northern Sudanese.

morpheus24:


Genetics is a science who's conclusions depends on how you interpret the data.

Race is a social construct that has been invented to advance a certain social order.

Kenyalady is obsessed with "Afro Caucasian" and doesn't really know why. Check yourself lady

You are worse than Fulaman.

KenyanLady:



Whatever floats your boat.

You sound like an adolescent boy who desperately want to be seen as dark skinned Caucasian, anyway, you are clearly clueless about genetics and race.

Loll you just pull the most ridiculous things out of your rear end, like people are mixed when they are not, or that Ajuran is half-Bantu....have you ever met him in person to come to such a conclusion?

You are also from Kenya unless if you have lived in the western Sahel, I highly doubt you have met any Fulani people in your lifetime.

You act as if you know people's people better than them which is why I'm laughing my nose off.

Fulaman198:


Loll you just pull the most ridiculous things out of your rear end, like people are mixed when they are not, or that Ajuran is half-Bantu....have you ever met him in person to come to such a conclusion?

You are also from Kenya unless if you have lived in the western Sahel, I highly doubt you have met any Fulani people in your lifetime.

You act as if you know people's people better than them which is why I'm laughing my nose off.

Dude she is mentally ill, and lives in an alternative universe. Her single most daring achievement in this world is opening her legs to a white man and bringing to term two half white kids.

Wow.That's uncalled for but then again Ajuran parents are probably be siblings, don't expect him to reason right.

gallivant:
Wow.That's uncalled for but then again Ajuran parents are probably be siblings, don't expect him to reason right.

Bantus are dim witted. Just because Somalis are the same ethnic group, you think we marry our sisters? lol

Somalis/Ethiopians/Eritreans all have the same origins, and marry with in each others ethnic group which are in the Millions.

It's like saying Yoruba marry their sisters because they happen to only marry Yourba's. Don't be jealous that since our people are good looking

and we find you Bantus to be ugly, that their is no way we would ever marry outside our ethnic group.


There are many Somalis who will marry Ethiopians and vice versa if their Muslims, because we find each other's features the same meaning we are attractive, but no Horn African finds Bantu features attractive, same for every race on earth. No one finds kinky hair, big lips, and wide nose attractive.

gallivant:


Finally, someone with some sense.Last time I checked Sudan was not in the horn.I would also like to add that Ethiopians are hamitic, not cushites.

You agree with him, because it's probably your Troll account. It was created today, and all it talks about is how Nubians are Negro lol

Bantus are so desperate that they troll and pretend to be Somali/Ethiopian/Nubian only to say how they are related to Fufu Negroes.

Pathetic. If you think their related to you , plz talk to the South Sudanese who were killed by them in the millions

Most cultures value brains over looks, not that the looks favor you.You need to stop living in denial, there is nothing special about Somalis.



[img]http://www.snaradio.so/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/65768260_13_somali-femalesoldiers_reuters.jpg[/img]

Ajuran:



Bantus are dim witted. Just because Somalis are the same ethnic group, you think we marry our sisters? lol

Somalis/Ethiopians/Eritreans all have the same origins, and marry with in each others ethnic group which are in the Millions.

It's like saying Yoruba marry their sisters because they happen to only marry Yourba's. Don't be jealous that since our people are good looking

and we find you Bantus to be ugly, that their is no way we would ever marry outside our ethnic group.


There are many Somalis who will marry Ethiopians and vice versa if their Muslims, because we find each other's features the same meaning we are attractive, but no Horn African finds Bantu features attractive, same for every race on earth. No one finds kinky hair, big lips, and wide nose attractive.

Come on, you know what inbreeding is.Your first cousins is also naturally a NO NO! Only pigs mount their siblings, its haram.

Ajuran:



You agree with him, because it's probably your Troll account. It was created today, and all it talks about is how Nubians are Negro lol

Bantus are so desperate that they troll and pretend to be Somali/Ethiopian/Nubian only to say how they are related to Fufu Negroes.

Pathetic. If you think their related to you , plz talk to the South Sudanese who were killed by them in the millions

Give me a break, I don't need another account to wash your mouth with soap.Facts and the truth are enough.I don't think we are related to the Sudanese but they look down on you just like the rest of humanity.The Ethiopians too, they would rather die than get involved with you.Stop lying to yourself, their distaste for your kind is well documented so claiming them is kinda pathetic.