Timbuktou:
Oponu, stop grumbling. Talk am make we hear. Odenson. Hahhahahaha. I'd still love to kill you Sophy. Want to feel your heart give up under the pressure of my squeeze. Please, don't let me down. Come and die now, biitch.

YHHBT!! BW!! Ciao!

carefreewannabe:


I agree.

Times have changed
You seem more amiable nowadays

Timbuktou:
No mind dem jor. Na yapping dem sabi. I pity all these white knights around believing this nonsense they spout.

LOL

pickabeau1:


Why is he being called a time waster

By nairaland's most famous feminists, no less....

Sophyrocks:


YHHBT!! BW!! Ciao!

You're a meanie. You let me fantasize and then pull the plug when I'm so closed to fulfilling. I hate you Sophy, I hate you. Please, don't leave me Sophy, I need to kill you to be happy. Pleeeeeaaasssse, biitch I swear, I'll kill you only once.

pickabeau1:


You seem more amiable nowadays

Allow me take credit for this, she's been trying to impress me lately.

coogar:


that's the fair deal. if you didn't contribute a kobo to the acquisition of the house, you have no right to stay in it.



because in the west, men don't have a voice. if i report you to the police that you physically abused me, i would be the one that would get arrested. the law presumes men are the primary aggressors.

from the OP, the women were all shipped from various villages in nigeria - many of them couldn't rub 2 nickels together. the men already had their houses before bringing her in. so what has she contributed?



is she not working, like you have claimed?
didn't you say she must have contributed financially to the upkeep of the house & yet she still wants 50% of his assets?



shepherd's pie.

What do you mean by not having a right to live in the house? You guys are married, where would you rather she stayed? The house is now also hers by virtue of marriage.

I don't want to believe the law presumes, there's no way you have all evidence that your wife physically abused you and you'd still be the one getting arrested.

They were shipped from their villages to come and work, are you saying their husbands gained nothing at any point in time from the women's earnings?

Ofcourse she works but he fathered the kids, he might be a danger to them, that doesn't mean they have to suffer for his madness, 50% of his assets combined with hers, goes into their well being/upkeep.

Lay off the pie sweetie, it's bad for you.

Timbuktou:
You're a meanie. You let me fantasize and then pull the plug when I'm so closed to fulfilling. I hate you Sophy, I hate you. Please, don't leave me Sophy, I need to kill you to be happy. Pleeeeeaaasssse, biitch I swear, I'll kill you only once.

YHHBT!! BW!! FTLT!!

coogar:


like this example, i guess....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2397002/Daughter-sent-father-prison-40-years-lying-raped-pleads-release.html

his daughter ended his happiness.

Sophyrocks:


YHHBT!! BW!! FTLT!!

Alright, alright. I get it. Let's play the alphabet game. XYz!!! CAC!! DJIDJKOHCKUGBB!! I seem to have better keyboard than you.

freecocoa:
What do you mean by not having a right to live in the house? You guys are married, where would you rather she stayed? The house is now also hers by virtue of marriage.

the same marriage you don't longer desire?

I don't want to believe the law presumes, there's no way you have all evidence that your wife physically abused you and you'd still be the one getting arrested.

she only needs to cry to be believed. the cops will arrest the man instantly before he can spell freecocoa.

They were shipped from their villages to come and work, are you saying their husbands gained nothing at any point in time from the women's earnings?

gained what exactly?
how was the hubby surviving before shipping her over? who paid for her ticket and the entire process to migrate her? who paid for her nursing school, transportation to school and other miscellaneous bills?

so this man suddenly became poor to start depending on the wife?

Ofcourse she works but he fathered the kids, he might be a danger to them, that doesn't mean they have to suffer for his madness, 50% of his assets combined with hers, goes into their well being/upkeep.

if you don't want a man, leave his properties alone. walk away....work out how much his quota would be in supporting the kids and let him pay it. allow him supervised visits to his kids & i can assure you 100% he will not come for you with a semi-automatic weapon.

Lay off the pie sweetie, it's bad for you.

pie is my addiction.

freecocoa:
his daughter ended his happiness.

the mother forced the daughter to lie against her dad. the daughter was just 9 years of age when this false claim was made. the mother ended his happiness!

Timbuktou:
Alright, alright. I get it. Let's play the alphabet game. XYz!!! CAC!! DJIDJKOHCKUGBB!! I seem to have better keyboard than you.

.

Sophyrocks:


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5minsmadness:

Timbuktou:
A Detroit man has been ordered to pay $30,000 in child
support despite not being the father.
Carnell Alexander has proven in a DNA test he is not the
father of the child born in 1987, but the state wants him to
pay anyway - and is threatening him with prison if he does
not.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2810878/Michigan-man-ordered-pay-30-000-child-support-court-agrees-NOT-father.html


Freecocoa, if this man killed the woman wouldn't he be justified?

No, he couldn't.

The order to pay came before the DNA test abi? So that's understandable but I don't know what kinda judge would insist even after its been proven that he isn't the child's father, the man should just appeal.

Plus, it may have been a honest mistake on the woman's side, she may not have known the child wasn't his, especially if she had been with other men before realizing she was with child.

freecocoa:
No, he couldn't.

The order to pay came before the DNA test abi? So that's understandable but I don't know what kinda judge would insist even after its been proven that he isn't the child's father, the man should just appeal.

Plus, it may have been a honest mistake on the woman's side, she may not have known the child wasn't his, especially if she had been with other men before realizing she was with child.

she knew it wasn't his but she still used his name as the father of the child for the financial benefit. although, she hes since told the court to stop hounding the man - a judge still wants the man to pay some of the money & they are threatening him jail time if he fails to pay.

freecocoa:
No, he couldn't.

The order to pay came before the DNA test abi? So that's understandable but I don't know what kinda judge would insist even after its been proven that he isn't the child's father, the man should just appeal.

Plus, it may have been a honest mistake on the woman's side, she may not have known the child wasn't his, especially if she had been with other men before realizing she was with child.

First of all, those sorts of judges are the norm not the exception. If they could do this to this man who has proof of paternity, imagine the fate befalling millions of men in a 'he-said-she-said' divorce case.

Honest mistake sha. What stops her from staying the judgement and telling the judge to let off? So, when the man pays will she refund him the cash or collect it and say sorry o, na wetin judge talk?

pickabeau1:


Times have changed
You seem more amiable nowadays



LOL

Thanks, you too.

coogar:


the same marriage you don't longer desire?



she only needs to cry to be believed. the cops will arrest the man instantly before he can spell freecocoa.



gained what exactly?
how was the hubby surviving before shipping her over? who paid for her ticket and the entire process to migrate her? who paid for her nursing school, transportation to school and other miscellaneous bills?

so this man suddenly became poor to start depending on the wife?



if you don't want a man, leave his properties alone. walk away....work out how much his quota would be in supporting the kids and let him pay it. allow him supervised visits to his kids & i can assure you 100% he will not come for you with a semi-automatic weapon.



pie is my addiction.



the mother forced the daughter to lie against her dad. the daughter was just 9 years of age when this false claim was made. the mother ended his happiness!

An agreement is an agreement, so long as part of the house is what comes with getting married, she earned it and should have it, in and after marriage.

Now you are just messing with me, like men don't cry too abi? We are all blessed with the ability to cry, so if you feel the popo responds faster to tears, then cry your way out.

Who told you he paid for everything? Let's assume he did, is that not enough reason to want to take everything the woman owns as pay back for what he supposedly spent on her? He decided to pay, he wasn't forced to, so that one isn't even a point to be considered here, so long as they got married, whatever they both have in the marriage, belongs to both of them.

It's not just about not wanting the man, there has to a reason, now if the reason is that she no longer loves him, I don't think anyone would ask the man to give her half of his assets nor stop him from visiting his kids, he might actually get custody in this case sef.

Pie is messing with your head.

coogar:

she knew it wasn't his but she still used his name as the father of the child for the financial benefit. although, she hes since told the court to stop hounding the man - a judge still wants the man to pay some of the money & they are threatening him jail time if he fails to pay.

Are you saying she knew from the get go or after the DNA test?

pickabeau1:

I wish cheating was not involved

It will hv been a topic with less hyperventilation

Let's assume he's not cheating

So once again I ask
Why should she bothered about marriage, getting fat with post birth fat, surrendering her career

The man is not interested in marriage..

Why is he being called a time waster

People marry for different reasons. You have to ask her why she wants to get married. I cannot answer on her behalf.

I can only say that marriage can be a beautiful thing with the right partner but it can also go wrong and it is not for everyone.

Timbuktou:
Of course, you should. It is I, after all. Hehehe. How's your day going?

LOL

It's good. I am still working but distracted by Nairaland, which means that I won't finish early. Never mind.

Why do you think husbands kill their wives? And wives their husbands? Some people even kill the children. Why?

Timbuktou:
First of all, those sorts of judges are the norm not the exception. If they could do this to this man who has proof of paternity, imagine the fate befalling millions of men in a 'he-said-she-said' divorce case.

Honest mistake sha. What stops her from staying the judgement and telling the judge to let off? So, when the man pays will she refund him the cash or collect it and say sorry o, na wetin judge talk?

the money she owes has been forgiven by the judge but the same judge wants an innocent man to pay the money owed to the state. can you imagine such nonsense? there are many men forced to pay child support for kids that are not theirs.

this is how men get screwed up for things they know nothing about. if he wants an american passport as we speak, he will not get one. if anyone owes more than $2500 in child support in the US, he cannot get an american passport regardless of where he was born.

how is murder not expected?

Timbuktou:
First of all, those sorts of judges are the norm not the exception. If they could do this to this man who has proof of paternity, imagine the fate befalling millions of men in a 'he-said-she-said' divorce case.

Honest mistake sha. What stops her from staying the judgement and telling the judge to let off? So, when the man pays will she refund him the cash or collect it and say sorry o, na wetin judge talk?

If you believe such judges are a norm then there has to be a reason for that, and the reason is simply that men abandoning their kids and abusing their wives is also a norm, except you are trying to say that almost all the judges are anti-men.

Coogar already said she did so.

mutter:
When you have nothing to live for, then you have everything to die for!

The fact that it keeps happening shows that the men are not all suddenly going mad.

A man that had worked so hard brought his much younger wife here to Germany, when they come to church the wife was so rude to the man, perhaps because she was better educated. I quickly grabbed hold of her and drew her aside. I warned her that her husband was respected in this community and if she ever tried it again where I was I would shred her to bits. Foolish girl!

These greedy bitches accept a man they do not love and are ashamed of just to get out of Nigeria and then they want to ruin the man.
Do you know that these men have worked so hard for so many years! Received all kinds of insults from society and then you bring this young girl and she gives you the final insult to let you know you are = 0.
How many of them come here with nothing and soon the man is out of his own home on the streets and having to pay maintenance.
When the study in America, they are able to do so because the man brought them there.
Nursing is not even a good paying job, like any menial job you can gather money if you work enough hours. While they are at work they cannot perform as wife`s so of what use is the work if it does not benefit the family?

No matter how educated or how much money they have a woman must humble herself and treat her husband with the utmost respect in all situations. That is not just good for the man but also for the children. The children are raised in an environment where the learn respect and manners.
That is what you get when a man that has struggled for years gets dragged into the mud in his own home. A man that has struggled and faced discrimination and abuse outside. Treat him like a king at home so that he can feel like the man he is, that will give him the strength to keep struggling.
Instead these women get rude, function like they don`t have a family, neglect the welfare of their husbands and homes and go running after the dollars.

I quite agree with some of your posts, however, nothing justifies murder.
Agreed, those men were pushed to the wall but ending the marriage as opposed to the wife's life is a better option.

Well, the ladies are the ones getting killed because of their greed. You know you don't love a man, then don't jump into marriage just so you escape poverty.

freecocoa:
An agreement is an agreement, so long as part of the house is what comes with getting married, she earned it and should have it, in and after marriage.

so how are we sure that wasn't her motive of getting married in the first place? i mean what stops you now from marrying mikel obi, stay with him for 3 months and ask for a divorce? you mean you have earned the right to take his house by the virtue of signing a piece of paper?

Now you are just messing with me, like men don't cry too abi? We are all blessed with the ability to cry, so if you feel the popo responds faster to tears, then cry your way out.

all she needs to say is the man was the abuser. the cops will cuff the man instantly. that's the way it works unless there's another witness that states otherwise.

Who told you he paid for everything? Let's assume he did, is that not enough reason to want to take everything the woman owns as pay back for what he supposedly spent on her? He decided to pay, he wasn't forced to, so that one isn't even a point to be considered here, so long as they got married, whatever they both have in the marriage, belongs to both of them.

the reason for this kinda brawl has nothing to do with her income. the real reason is her total disregard for her hubby and sometimes infidelity. how much do nurses make sef?

It's not just about not wanting the man, there has to a reason, now if the reason is that she no longer loves him, I don't think anyone would ask the man to give her half of his assets nor stop him from visiting his kids, he might actually get custody in this case sef.

91% of all custody cases go to the women. she must be a drug addict or mentally unstable to not be awarded the custody. women always often get to keep everything - all she needs to do is to lie she's the victim.

Pie is messing with your head.

if i catch you...

Are you saying she knew from the get go or after the DNA test?

she knew from the get go......this was her comment concerning the matter.

"I had to turn to welfare to get assistance to take care of them and I had to put him down as the father. That was the only way I could get into the system. Everything is my fault, He shouldn’t have to pay it at all. I want everything to go away for him so he can get on with his life.”

carefreewannabe:


LOL

It's good. I am still working but distracted by Nairaland, which means that I won't finish early. Never mind.

Why do you think husbands kill their wives? And wives their husbands? Some people even kill the children. Why?

Nairaland does have that effect, doesn't it? Try finish up on time o, no late hours woman.

Well, it's simply really. For some it's mental instability, for some it's as we have said, just the feeling of hopelessness or rage. The ones done in rage are probably regretted shortly afterwards, those does due to hopelessness that one dear o. Imagine Cantrell Alexander going to jail for failing to pay child support for another man's child. His mind would fry, in that state he'd do anything

ifyalways:

I quite agree with some of your posts, however, nothing justifies murder.
Agreed, those men were pushed to the wall but ending the marriage as opposed to the wife's life is a better option.

Well, the ladies are the ones getting killed because of their greed. You know you don't love a man, then don't jump into marriage just so you escape poverty.

Nothing justifies murder!
But to find a solution one should try and find out the reason it is happening and how one can avoid falling victim!
That is what this is about.

coogar:


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this is silly coming from you.
why are you putting her personal stories here just because her opinion is different from yours?

you are irritatingly immature!

Standing Ovation for this guy.

I was going to do this before I saw your reply. Aisha2 thinks she is God.

ifyalways:

I quite agree with some of your posts, however, nothing justifies murder.
Agreed, those men were pushed to the wall but ending the marriage as opposed to the wife's life is a better option.

Well, the ladies are the ones getting killed because of their greed. You know you don't love a man, then don't jump into marriage just so you escape poverty.

well, that's the norm.
they pretend to love him just to get on the plane to america. once they start working, the hubby suddenly becomes a monster, a lazy dirty stinking man.

coogar:


so how are we sure that wasn't her motive of getting married in the first place? i mean what stops you now from marrying mikel obi, stay with him for 3 months and ask for a divorce? you mean you have earned the right to take his house by the virtue of signing a piece of paper?



all she needs to say is the man was the abuser. the cops will cuff the man instantly. that's the way it works unless there's another witness that states otherwise.



the reason for this kinda brawl has nothing to do with her income. the real reason is her total disregard for her hubby and sometimes infidelity. how much do nurses make sef?



91% of all custody cases go to the women. she must be a drug addict or mentally unstable to not be awarded the custody. women always often get to keep everything - all she needs to do is to lie she's the victim.



if i catch you...



she knew from the get go......this was her comment concerning the matter.

"I had to turn to welfare to get assistance to take care of them and I had to put him down as the father. That was the only way I could get into the system. Everything is my fault, He shouldn’t have to pay it at all. I want everything to go away for him so he can get on with his life.”

Who is to say his motive for getting married isn't to bring her to work and take all she earns, plus even abuse and enslave her? He married her, right? Why did he marry her?

Paddi me na lie jor, there are procedures/processes in a criminal case, it is not a he said/she said thing jare, anything other than this is not lawful, no be who first call popo dey win case, get real.

The disregard can be on the part of the man, he cheats,abuses her and expects her to be an obedient and faithful wife, she refuses and wants to fight back, he shoots her, boom!

Now you are making it sound like the legal system should not be taken serious here, so all lies win in court now, haba Oga sir, if that's the case, we shouldn't be having this conversation.

I will catch you first, punch your face, lie and have you thrown in jail.

That's one desperate and wicked woman, we can't judge all women based on her actions, now can we?

Timbuktou:
Nairaland does have that effect, doesn't it? Try finish up on time o, no late hours woman.

It does, I enjoy the discussions a lot.

Don't worry, I can finish part of the work from home.

Well, it's simply really. For some it's mental instability, for some it's as we have said, just the feeling of hopelessness or rage. The ones done in rage are probably regretted shortly afterwards, those does due to hopelessness that one dear o. Imagine Cantrell Alexander going to jail for failing to pay child support for another man's child. His mind would fry, in that state he'd do anything

You are right to say that it happens for different reasons.

However, to kill anyone or yourself because you have to pay child support for a child, that is not yours, is defeat. That's not the right way to go about it, not effective and not reasonable.

I also agree that men are OFTEN treated unfairly in family courts and that something has to be done about it, even though in many cases it is not as bad as Nairalanders portray it , but killing or suicide are not the way out.

There are also cases, and it shouldn't be forgotten, in which women are treated unfairly.

A good friend of mine told me that after divorce her aunt had to pay alimony for her husband, which made her income just enough to live on. Her husband used to have a shop and he never correctly stated how much he sells and earns in his tax declaration in order to pay less tax on income.
Officially she was the higher earner even though he made more money than she did. The judge ordered her to pay her ex husband alimony, leaving her back with very little, when her husband actually earned more and had the guts to take the money from her, the judge ordered her to pay.

To say that men in the West are victims of the system and always on the receiving end is too simple. The reality is more complex.

i hate long stories

lmao.........This made my day. Cant stop laughing.......