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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by spacefreak: 10:43pm On Feb 09, 2015
otokx:
Are you guys tired of striking? I hear NUC has issues with this course which ought to have been purely HND/OND paroles. Water will always find its level.

Don't comment on things you know nothing about. Thank you.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by nationwide1(m): 10:50pm On Feb 09, 2015
idealsico:
Successful treatment of any disease begins with accurate diagnosis. If precise diagnosis can not be guaranteed, no matter the genuineness of drugs administered on the patient, it can not be efficacious. Nigeria should get it right from the roots.
Do you know that 70% of diagnosis is made through history and medical examination and laboratory and radiology make up the rest of 30%? Do you also know that doctors receive excellent medical laboratory training before graduation? I think industrial court has the solution to your problem.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by ugou: 10:50pm On Feb 09, 2015
Sctests:


Igwebuike Charles
Chairman
Assoc. of Medical Laboratory Scientistsof Nigeria Imo State
Phone No.: 08033826056, 08095450675.


Please can you talk about the histroy of the profession medical laboratory science and secondly what is obtainable in other developed climes of the world.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by eaglechild: 10:51pm On Feb 09, 2015
Sctests:


Do not make too much noise here, go to Abuja and repeal the Med lab laws. The average Nigerian now knows who actually runs those tests that promotes and saves their lives in our hospitals. Mr pathologist go consult with your physician-friends on clinical disease management and leave the lab for those who have spent all 5 university years +1year internship learning how to run it-The Medical Lab Scientist.
The degree of ignorance oozing from your post is lethal.

The pathologist heads the histopathology laboratory. This is standard practice the world over.
If they give you a tissue section from a breast biopsy for example how will you make a definitive diagnosis from your so called 5 years +1.
You forgot that the pathologist spent 6+2+4-6 years to be able to make that diagnosis.
Learn to know your job description and be satisfied with it.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by Sctests: 10:54pm On Feb 09, 2015
nobilis:


I hope you have heard of automated machines that do most of these tests you guys do in the laboratory.

That's all I have to say.

Tomorrow you guys will also blame doctors for the suspension of the MLS program by NUC.
All your woes are caused by the doctor, SMH. It's pitiable.

When you people make this statement i laugh. Automation is welcome with open arms, there are more 20,000 tests that can be run in a laboratory,
It will help reduce the Turn-around-time and give the Nigerian Medical lab Scientist time to venture into biomedical research and improve his professional fortunes among the health team, something currently enjoyed other health professionals except him. What we can not wish away is heavy workload in the laboratory.

Despite automation and advances in lab testing, more lab tests have been requested in the last 10 years than in all of the preceding 25 years put together. People are now very much aware about who does the testing, so they go directly to lab collection centers, these have given birth to direct access testing/ consumer-ordered tests. We also have Dieticians, Nutritionists, homeopaths, naturopaths and holistic practitioners helping people choose tests that could help them seek alternative cures. The demand is unprecedented, so my friend for at least the next 2 centuries, the demand will ensure that Medical lab Scientists continue to contribute to the health needs of people.


As for the suspension of MLS course in Nigeria, there is a clear Political undertone. Everyone knows Dr Ahmadu Alli is an NMA member and also the chairman of the NUC BOT. Even idiots can see the connection. MLSCN is empowered "to determine the level of knowledge it's practitioners must have before they can practice. Faculty of MLS is not an issues in civilized countries, why should it be so in Nigeria?
University of Minnesota has a Faculty of MLS. http://cahp.umn.edu/mls

Let me also bring it to your notice that Robotics and technology will also take it's chunk of your jobs too. Telemedicine, Da vinci surgical system and health informatics technology are the future of medicine. We'll be needing only fewer but efficient physicians in years to come. I'd be worried about that if i were you.

http://qz.com/193919/most-of-what-your-doctor-does-a-robot-can-do-better/

http://www.davincisurgery.com/da-vinci-surgery/da-vinci-surgical-system/

http://fortune.com/2012/12/04/technology-will-replace-80-of-what-doctors-do/

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by taofeeq137(m): 10:55pm On Feb 09, 2015
nobilis:


Diagnosis starts before the lab. Not in, or after the lab.

Secondly, a pathologist is always in charge of laboratories anywhere in the world. It is not encroachment, it is how things ought to be. Until Medical Laboratory Scientists in Nigeria learn to humble themselves and work in conjunction with the pathologists, they will always feel cheated and raped.

Know your position in a place and gladly and proudly occupy it. That's the best way to gain pride and recognition for your profession.

Nigerian mumu sense talking, so na pathologist go check out d cause of death of a specimen, or d rightful owner of a child, or what bullshit are u sayin, ur patho...wtf... field sef should be under med lab science, and u r dere talkin twash.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by mankan2k7(m): 10:59pm On Feb 09, 2015
Medical laboratory scientist, a doctor consultant, a bedrock of modern medicine. An heart attack to a Nigerian physician. Medical laboratory sciences has evolved over the year. 85% of hospital data emanates from the laboratory.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by Onyiridike(f): 11:02pm On Feb 09, 2015
Sctests:


Dear friend, There is no discrimination between a B.MLS and B.Sc.
MLS is a professional degree by international standard while the Chemistry/ Biology degrees are academic/research-based. A degree in pharmacology here and in many parts of the world can get you a research assistant position but you can't practice as a Pharmacist. Pharmacy degree are professional. That's how it goes. Research positions and Professional positions are both important.
www.unb.ca/academics/programs/undergrad/fr/medical/

1. MLS have a lot in their curriculum that B.Sc biology/chemistry does not. Anatomy, Physiology are key basic medical courses that must be learned as you'll need to understand structure and functions of what you studied in school and apply them in the lab. Scenario- When you told to explain the collection of endocervical smears at squamo-coloumnar junction, how do you explain that as a chemist?.

2.There are drugs that interact and alter medical laboratory results giving false-positives or false-nagatives, it is the Lab. Scientist's job to know this and factor it in before signing and releasing lab results. This is one of the many reasons Pharmacology is taught to Lab. Scientists. This course is absent in Biologist's/chemist's curriculum.
We also have medical counselling medical ethics and jurisprudence. CLS are also sued by patients for malpractice(e.g giving out wrong results), they also testify in court in rape cases. Is the chemist/biologist equipped with this knowlege. That's why it is regulated and licensed. Lives are involved. Those aforementioned courses are missing in Biology and chemistry curriculums.
We need to stop seeing the lab as an afterthought kitchen where any joe can come in and run medical tests. The Medical Laboratory now plays a central role. Infact the HIV battle was fought and won in the laboratory.

3. Importation of diagnostics by law is supposed to be regulated by Medical Lab profesionals through the MLSCN, but our wardmen in labcoats believe otherwise. CBN have released a circular to that effect in accordance with the law.

Scientists and pathologists can work together but on different frequencies, in different offices towards a better health for the patient but they are distinct professions and none should seek to head the other. Pathologists should head theirs MLS should also head theirs. That's what the law says.








Is it B. Sc. Biochemistry that you are referring to as B. Sc Biology/Chemistry?

What makes you different from an illiterate?

Mr. Man every course is professional. You can ONLY be a lab. Scientist and that doesn't make you more professional than a Biochemist, Microbiologist. Economist, Chemist, Zoologist e.t.c.

You think a Biochemist, Chemist or Microbiologist is NOT a professional?

You think working in the hospital in a nice lab coat is what professionalism is all about?

This MADNESS only happens in Nigeria.

Obviously, you guys are overrated and you should learn to respect other disciplines.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by ACM10: 11:03pm On Feb 09, 2015
Till they quit telling me that Staphylococcus aureus is the causative organism of UTI, I have no respect for the medical lab scientists. Most of them are MedSurg rejects and some are glorified charlatans.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by canalily(m): 11:06pm On Feb 09, 2015
nobilis:


Jittery??
In what sense am I jittery?

Isn't it paradoxical that the people who always clamor for "international best practices" just want to abandon the same international best practices just to further their own selfish gains and purposes?
This behaviour is only expected of worshippers of the god, Janus.
are you now GEJ that is full of jittrey undecided ?
Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by zeezahbee(f): 11:06pm On Feb 09, 2015
ACM10:
Till they quit telling me that Staphylococcus aureus is the causative organism of UTI, I have no respect for the medical lab scientists. Most of them are MedSurg rejects and some are glorified charlatans.
how old are you?

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by Quelme: 11:06pm On Feb 09, 2015
nobilis:


Diagnosis starts before the lab. Not in, or after the lab.

Secondly, a pathologist is always in charge of laboratories anywhere in the world. It is not encroachment, it is how things ought to be. Until Medical Laboratory Scientists in Nigeria learn to humble themselves and work in conjunction with the pathologists, they will always feel cheated and raped.

Know your position in a place and gladly and proudly occupy it. That's the best way to gain pride and recognition for your profession.
I thought your case was a minor one but after reading these trash, i finally gave up on you...

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by spacefreak: 11:08pm On Feb 09, 2015
nationwide1:
Do you know that 70% of diagnosis is made through history and medical examination and laboratory and radiology make up the rest of 30%? Do you also know that doctors receive excellent medical laboratory training before graduation? I think industrial court has the solution to your problem.

Doctors receive excellent medical laboratory training? Really? Tell me more. Asking you questions is pointless. You would just run to google cheesy

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by Profayo: 11:09pm On Feb 09, 2015
The writer of this should understand this,technology has so much grown that very few lab scientists are actually required in the hospitals now as most tests has been automated,remember what happened to cashiers when ATM came into place? Why would I need to employ 10 people for a job that one person can do with an automated equipment?So it is nobody's fault,it's just advancement.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by BuddhaPalm(m): 11:10pm On Feb 09, 2015
A clash of egos...

Hehe.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by olympus121: 11:11pm On Feb 09, 2015
I've heard so much abt this wahala in d health sector. My brother is a Doctor and he often tells me about these problems and honestly told me that d Doctors are just heading every departments in the hospital even where they hav no experience about. It's so wrong to hav a doctor heading d engineering department or Physiotherapy department where he has no single knowledge about. Nigeria has to enact laws to show clear definition of jobs especially in a multiprofessional sector like Health. Doctors dnt knw other people's profession enof to head dem, it's more like imperialism. Thank God I'm not in such a crazy environment.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by zeezahbee(f): 11:11pm On Feb 09, 2015
spacefreak:


Doctors receive excellent medical laboratory training? Really? Tell me more. Asking you questions is pointless. You would just run to google cheesy
They are just jokers. same doctors that said they can do the work of a pharmacist.

Now they also want to be MLS/MLT. una wicked o cheesy

With the stipend they pay you guys in Nigeria, una wan work other people work join. More muscles to una elbow.

An adage says ''the clock will work till its battery stop working, that is what doctors are''.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by nationwide1(m): 11:12pm On Feb 09, 2015
spacefreak:


Doctors receive excellent medical laboratory training? Really? Tell me more. Asking you questions is pointless. You would just run to google cheesy
That's a fact you can't dispute bro. Has a doctor ever sent a laboratory request form to you without stating the working / provisional diagnosis and almost always correct after your results?

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by luckize: 11:15pm On Feb 09, 2015

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by ACM10: 11:17pm On Feb 09, 2015
olympus121:
[s] I've heard so much abt this wahala in d health sector. My brother is a Doctor and he often tells me about these problems and honestly told me that d Doctors are just heading every departments in the hospital even where they hav no experience about. It's so wrong to hav a doctor heading d engineering department or Physiotherapy department where he has no single knowledge about. Nigeria has to enact laws to show clear definition of jobs especially in a multiprofessional sector like Health. Doctors dnt knw other people's profession enof to head dem, it's more like imperialism. Thank God I'm not in such a crazy environment. [/s]

What a load of excrement!

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by spacefreak: 11:18pm On Feb 09, 2015
nationwide1:
That's a fact you can't dispute bro. Has a doctor ever sent a laboratory request form to you without stating the working / provisional diagnosis and almost always correct after your results?

You do know that diagnosis is very different from actually running a test? You can't confirm diagnosis without running accurate tests. Going from your initial statement doctors can diagnose and run accurate tests which I vehemently disagree still.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by Sctests: 11:18pm On Feb 09, 2015
Onyiridike:


Is it B. Sc. Biochemistry that you are referring to as B. Sc Biology/Chemistry?

What makes you different from an illiterate?

Mr. Man every course is professional. You can ONLY be a lab. Scientist and that doesn't make you more professional than a Biochemist, Microbiologist. Economist, Chemist, Zoologist e.t.c.

You think a Biochemist, Chemist or Microbiologist is NOT a professional?

You think working in the hospital in a nice lab coat is what professionalism is all about?

This MADNESS only happens in Nigeria.

Obviously, you guys are overrated and you should learn to respect other disciplines.

You are not intelligent, does Biology and Chemistry mean the same thing as Biochemistry?. Unlike some of you i respect other professions.
But a universal principle says that ethical issues are involved in Medical testing, that's why only a specialized group of professional equipped with the fundamental and basic medical background must practice it. If you drag a physician to court in the U.S, the American Medical Association will be very much involved, if drag a Clinical lab scientist to court, The American Society for Clinical Lab Scientists will be involved.

In Nigeria, the NMA will defend their members, the AMLSN will defend their members too as they are recognized as health professional groups.
Who comes to your rescue when you send out that poorly cross-matched blood and the patient dies of transfusion reaction? Institute of Science Lab Technologists?. They won't help,they'll stay off, I assure you

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by ACM10: 11:22pm On Feb 09, 2015
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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by ACM10: 11:22pm On Feb 09, 2015
zeezahbee:
how old are you?

Stick to the topic. . .

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by Profayo: 11:23pm On Feb 09, 2015
If these people feel so threatened,why don't they go and setup private laboratories?

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by Sctests: 11:25pm On Feb 09, 2015
ACM10:
Till they quit telling me that Staphylococcus aureus is the causative organism of UTI, I have no respect for the medical lab scientists. Most of them are MedSurg rejects and some are glorified charlatans.

Reminds me of that physician in UBTH that said Pseudomonas aeroginosa is a gram positive and Oxidase negative organism. The pathologist Kpanthologist can't recognize a swarmed pseudo agar plate, even if it's hung on his neck. Yet he wants to head the Medical Lab. Scientist. The feeling is mutual. grin

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by nationwide1(m): 11:26pm On Feb 09, 2015
spacefreak:


You do know that diagnosis is very different from actually running a test? You can't confirm diagnosis without running accurate tests. Going from your initial statement doctors can diagnose and run accurate tests which I vehemently disagree still.
Meaning you either didn't get me clearly or you wanted to interpret me in the way that best suits you. There are many cases a doctor can diagnose 100% through history and medical examination without laboratory investigation. However, medical laboratory science is very important in medical practice.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by taofeeq137(m): 11:27pm On Feb 09, 2015
zeezahbee:
how old are you?

2 MONTHS AND 3 DAYS, smh for him
Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by Rich4god(m): 11:27pm On Feb 09, 2015
Virtually every profession is been raped in Nigeria... I once met a HOP in zenith bank... The lady has a degree in Yoruba and she is working in the bank... So op, just find one place relax...

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by zeezahbee(f): 11:28pm On Feb 09, 2015
ACM10:


Stick to the topic. . .
I saw your comments and i really want to know if it was an adult that typed so i will know how to respond.

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Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by skabber2: 11:30pm On Feb 09, 2015
Re: Rape Of Medical Laboratory Science Profession by spacefreak: 11:31pm On Feb 09, 2015
zeezahbee:
They are just jokers. same doctors that said they can do the work of a pharmacist.

Now they also want to be MLS/MLT. una wicked o cheesy

With the stipend they pay you guys in Nigeria, una wan work other people work join. More muscles to una elbow.

An adage says ''the clock will work till its battery stop working, that is what doctors are''.

cheesy cheesy cheesy

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