dejilg:
.."The Father is God, The Son is God and the HolySpirit is God, yet there is for us ONE GOD" ... or don't u know wat "AND" means in mathematics and that "OR is +" Shame on dis followers of allah, like their god like d muslims

Dont worry urself about inheritance law. No one complains to you.

"AND" "means" + (plus) i:e plus another god or in addition to.....

"Or" is substituting one god for another.

CAPTIVATOR:


ONE God ? NO, its 3 .... Should I prove it

God number 1 = the Father

God number 2 = the Son, Jesus

God number 3 = holyspirit.

INFACT they are all different persons, and each is God! 3




I Love it when people quote that passage in full

Who is called the ONE GOD ? THE FATHER

Does it tell us why he is called the ONE GOD ? YES , " FROM WHOM all things are, and we for him"

Who is called the One Lord ? Jesus
WHy is Jesus called the One Lord ? " through whom all things are, and we through him " .

IS JESUS THE FATHER ? NO! NO!



THE Firstborn of CREATION! CREATION! cannot be the source, he is the "beginning"

Scriptural Definition Of Firstborn ....... " The BEGINNING OF pro creativ power" . Gen 49:2

So beginning is the right translation



Of course,

Jesus refer to the FATHER as "the ONLY TRUE GOD" JOH 17:3

Hmmmm _ " THE ONLY .. GOD " JOH 17:3



" FOR US THERE IS ONE GOD, THE FATHER" 1 Cor 8:6



- That verse says the Father annoints Jesus!

- That Verse says the Father is the God of Jesus .

- 1) Didnt the Father also call humans"GODS"?

2) DIDNT the Father also inspire scripture writers to call Satan " GOD" ? ( or av u forgotten that the original greek doesnt separate "G" and "g" )

THE FATHER Remains " THE ONLY ... GOD" Joh 17:3

" THE ONLY .. GOD" Joh 17:3

" THE ... TRUE GOD" Joh 17:3! WOW

U keep repeating this pale story, I guess any person reading through this thread will find answers to dis...the Persons of God share the ONE BEING of God...if u can't interact with wat Trinitarians teach, den atleast stay silent and don't attribute to them wat they don't believe...
I will repeat it, Trinitarians show that God's nature is very different from the human nature of (1 being, 1 person)....but I guess all dis "copy and paste" dude wud just limit their own god(s)..."God must be 1 being, 1 person --- sounds more like a human to me"

Empiree:
Dont worry urself about inheritance law. No one complains to you.

"AND" "means" + (plus) i:e plus another god or in addition to.....

"Or" is substituting one god for another.

Yep!!! That proves that u failed "Logic" in mathematics, my assertion is now brought out by u...no wonder, Trinitarianism just dazzled U (like God's Glory would)....
and we are also told that, "forget allah's mathematical failure, we don't care (probably cos he failed mathematics too) --- best defence so far is "Shut Up"

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and he just kept saying "Person = Being" ...I guess it all goes back to my earliest response!!!
Interact with wat Trinitarians believe, and stop attacking strawman!!! how pathetic! Taqiyya at best!!!

Trinitarians read up

http://badmanna./2014/03/24/the-intellectual-triunity-of-god-by-joel-parkinson/?relatedposts_hit=1&relatedposts_origin=4620&relatedposts_position=2

as the topic implies, that is for the intellect!!!

dejilg:


Yep!!! That proves that u failed "Logic" in mathematics, my assertion is now brought out by u...no wonder, Trinitarianism just dazzled U (like God's Glory would)....
and we are also told that, "forget allah's mathematical failure, we don't care (probably cos he failed mathematics too) --- best defence so far is "Shut Up"

You still not making any sense. You havent said anything. I dont worry myself going to your link cuz I already gone through your nonsense for yrs. Whether you like it or not. Whether you agree or not, you are polytheist. Hear what Quran says about this:


O People of the Book!(i:e Christians) Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. (Qur'an 4:171)

dejilg:


Which version did muhammed read

Hafs, Warsh, Qalun, Al-Bazzi, al-Duri, Qunbul, al-Qari, al - Suri, Hisham...etc!!!

This Is My Refutation To Your Allegations:

It has become a standard method of deception by Christian missionaries like Jochen Katz to superficially project issues that have been exhaustively addressed by both Muslims and Orientialsts, as we will see soon, inshallah. These missionaries are well aware of the difference between a transmission and a text (to be discussed in detail below). Yet, they intentionally replace one with the other in order to give the false impression to lay readers that the Qur'an exists in different texts. Thus, in order to address the questions of Hafs and Warsh, we will first offer a short introduction to the key concepts involved herein and then proceed to the heart of the matter, inshallah.

Revelation Of The Qur'an In Seven Ahrûf

It is a well-known fact that there are seven different ahrûf in which the Qur'an was revealed. In the Islamic tradition, this basis can be traced back to a number of hadîths concerning the revelation of the Qur'an in seven ahrûf (singular harf). Some of the examples of these hadîths are as follows:

From Abû Hurairah:

The Messenger of God(P) said: "The Qur'an was sent down in seven ahruf. Disputation concerning the Qur'an is unbelief" - he said this three times - "and you should put into practice what you know of it, and leave what you do not know of it to someone who does."

From Abû Hurairah:

The Messenger of God(P) said: "An All-knowing, Wise, Forgiving, Merciful sent down the Qur'an in seven ahruf."

From cAbdullâh Ibn Mascud:

The Messenger of God(P) said: "The Qur'an was sent down in seven ahruf. Each of these ahruf has an outward aspect (zahr) and an inward aspect (batn); each of the ahruf has a border, and each border has a lookout."

The meaning of this hadîth is explained as:

As for the Prophet's(P) words concerning the Qur'an, each of the ahruf has a border, it means that each of the seven aspects has a border which God has marked off and which no one may overstep. And as for his words Each of the ahruf has an outward aspect (zahr) and an inward aspect (batn), its outward aspect is the ostensive meaning of the recitation, and its inward aspect is its interpretation, which is concealed. And by his words each border ...... has a lookout he means that for each of the borders which God marked off in the Qur'an - of the lawful and unlawful, and its other legal injunctions - there is a measure of God's reward and punishment which surveys it in the Hereafter, and inspects it ...... at the Resurrection ......


And in another hadîth cAbdullâh Ibn Mascud said:

The Messenger of God(P) said: "The first Book came down from one gate according to one harf, but the Qur'an came down from seven gates according to seven ahruf: prohibiting and commanding, lawful and unlawful, clear and ambiguous, and parables. So, allow what it makes lawful, proscribe what it makes unlawful, do what it commands you to do, forbid what it prohibits, be warned by its parables, act on its clear passages, trust in its ambiguous passages." And they said: "We believe in it; it is all from our Lord."


And Abû Qilaba narrated:

It has reached me that the Prophet(P) said: "The Qur'an was sent down according to seven ahruf: command and prohibition, encouragement of good and discouragement of evil, dialectic, narrative, and parable."

These above hadîths serve as evidence that the Qur'an was revealed in seven ahruf. The defination of the term ahruf has been the subject of much scholarly discussion and is included in the general works of the Qur'an. The forms matched the dialects of following seven tribes: Quraysh, Hudhayl, Thaqîf, Hawâzin, Kinânah, Tamîm and Yemen. The revelation of the Qur'an in seven different ahruf made its recitation and memorization much easier for the various tribes. At the same time the Qur'an challenged them to produce a surah like it in their own dialect so that they would not complain about the incomprehensibility.

The verses of the Qur'an dealing with the challenge are given below (Hilali and Muhsin Khan's Translation):

Say: "If the mankind and the jinns were together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another." [Qur'an 17:88]

And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Qur'an) to Our slave (Muhammad Peace be upon him ), then produce a surah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah, if you are truthful. [Qur'an 2:23]

And this Qur'an is not such as could ever be produced by other than Allah (Lord of the heavens and the earth), but it is a confirmation of (the revelation) which was before it [i.e. the Taurat (Torah), and the Injeel (Gospel), etc.], and a full explanation of the Book (i.e. laws and orders, etc, decreed for mankind) - wherein there is no doubt from the the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns,and all that exists).

Or do they say: "He (Muhammad(P)) has forged it?" Say: "Bring then a surah (chapter) like unto it, and call upon whomsoever you can, besides Allah, if you are truthful!" [Qur'an 10:37-38]

Or they say, "He (Prophet Muhammad(P)) forged it (the Qur'an)." Say: "Bring you then ten forged surah (chapters) like unto it, and call whomsoever you can, other than Allah (to your help), if you speak the truth!" [Qur'an 11:13]

Or do they say: "He (Muhammad(P)) has forged it (this Qur'an)?" Nay! They believe not! Let them then produce a recital like unto it (the Qur'an) if they are truthful. [Qur'an 52:33-34]

For example, the phrase 'alayhim (on them) was read by some 'alayhumoo and the word siraat (path, bridge) was read as ziraat and mu'min (believer) as moomin.

dejilg:


Which version did muhammed read

Hafs, Warsh, Qalun, Al-Bazzi, al-Duri, Qunbul, al-Qari, al - Suri, Hisham...etc!!!

Further Refutations

Difference Between Ahrûf & Qirâ'ât

It is important to realize the difference between ahruf and Qirâ'ât. Before going into that it is interesting to know why the seven ahruf were brought down to one during Uthmân's(R) time.

The Qur'an continued to be read according to the seven ahruf until midway through Caliph 'Uthman's rule when some confusion arose in the outlying provinces concerning the Qur'an's recitation. Some Arab tribes had began to boast about the superiority of their ahruf and a rivalry began to develop. At the same time, some new Muslims also began mixing the various forms of recitation out of ignorance. Caliph 'Uthman decided to make official copies of the Qur'an according to the dialect of the Quraysh and send them along with the Qur'anic reciters to the major centres of Islam. This decision was approved by Sahaabah and all unofficial copies of the Qur'an were destroyed. Following the distribution of the official copies, all the other ahruf were dropped and the Qur'an began to be read in only one harf. Thus, the Qur'an which is available through out the world today is written and recited only according to the harf of Quraysh.

Now a few words on Qirâ'ât:

A Qirâ'ât is for the most part a method of pronunciation used in the recitations of the Qur'an. These methods are different from the seven forms or modes (ahruf) in which the Qur'an was revealed. The seven modes were reduced to one, that of the Quraysh, during the era of Caliph 'Uthman, and all of the methods of recitation are based on this mode. The various methods have all been traced back to the Prophet(P) through a number of Sahaabah who were most noted for their Qur'anic recitations. That is, these Sahaabah recited the Qur'an to the Prophet(P) or in his presence and received his approval. Among them were the following: Ubayy Ibn K'ab, 'Alee Ibn Abi Taalib, Zayd Ibn Thaabit, 'Abdullah Ibn Mas'ud, Abu ad-Dardaa and Abu Musaa al-Ash'aree. Many of the other Sahaabah learned from these masters. For example, Ibn 'Abbaas, the master commentator of the Qur'an among the Sahaabah, learned from both Ubayy and Zayd.

I will stop here now. Is there anything in this writing to suggest there versions of Quran?. The answer is No. But if you think there versions of Quran in Arabic, kindly bring it forward. But if you can't find or bring it forward, then shut up....FOREVER

yOU aRE dEfEAteD oN tHIs

Empiree:
Ride on bro...they are polytheists. They want us to believe 1+1+1=1. rilwayne001 abeg come to this one. Ineresting. I de gbadun am

Salam bro,

You are doing a great job on this section.


Jazakumullahu Kairan.

We all know 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 to the deluded trinitarian, trying to explain to them, they will tell you that you cant understand it unless you have holy spirit...SMH...The question I always ask this people is that, Why for so many years non of the old prophet taught this erroneous nature of God? atleast moses should have, if actually he did, the jews would also believe God is 3.

Rilwayne001:


Salam bro,

You are doing a great job on this section.


Jazakumullahu Kairan.

We all know 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 to the deluded trinitarian, trying to explain to them, they will tell you that you cant understand it unless you have holy spirit...SMH...The question I always ask this people is that, Why for so many years non of the old prophet taught this erroneous nature of God? atleast moses should have, if actually he did, the jews would also believe God is 3.

walaikum salam, Jazakumullahu Kairan for the compliment. Hope they get it

Is the Trinity doctrine in the Bible? See here http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/trinity/

Empiree:
You still not making any sense. You havent said anything. I dont worry myself going to your link cuz I already gone through your nonsense for yrs. Whether you like it or not. Whether you agree or not, you are polytheist. Hear what Quran says about this:


O People of the Book!(i:e Christians) Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs. (Qur'an 4:171)

When will u ever make sense do u realize that YHWH never claimed to reveal the quran but the quranic deity (allah) claimed to have revealed d Bible (hence saying according to Islam, d Bible is a divine revelation) and also asks muslims to ask "people of the book" when they are confused...so its d quran dat is tryna equate "YHWH as allah".

now let's move on to the error of wat u jst quoted from d quran, the translation u used is dubious, did allah mention d word "Trinity" in the Quran as far as I can tell, the word translated as Trinity is actually "three"...so why did d translator used the word "Trinity"? Isn't this a stupidity? Puttin words in "allah's mouth"?...and dis verse also shows d ignorance of the quranic deity (allah).... We Christians shld "desist from say three"....if we may ask, "three what?"...isn't this d ignorance of muhammed being attributed to allah? Or is allah talking to other groups aside from Christians?

Stop dragging allah in the mud by quoting "its" ignorance

dejilg:


When will u ever make sense do u realize that YHWH never claimed to reveal the quran but the quranic deity (allah) claimed to have revealed d Bible (hence saying according to Islam, d Bible is a divine revelation) and also asks muslims to ask "people of the book" when they are confused...so its d quran dat is tryna equate "YHWH as allah".

now let's move on to the error of wat u jst quoted from d quran, the translation u used is dubious, did allah mention d word "Trinity" in the Quran as far as I can tell, the word translated as Trinity is actually "three"...so why did d translator used the word "Trinity"? Isn't this a stupidity? Puttin words in "allah's mouth"?...and dis verse also shows d ignorance of the quranic deity (allah).... We Christians shld "desist from say three"....if we may ask, "three what?"...isn't this d ignorance of muhammed being attributed to allah? Or is allah talking to other groups aside from Christians?

Stop dragging allah in the mud by quoting "its" ignorance

These are other translations (Qur'an 4:171):

"O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one Allah; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector." Shakir


"O people of the Scripture (Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah aught but the truth. The Messiah 'Îsa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Ruh ) created by Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allah is (the only) One Ilah (God), glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All-Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs." Khan


"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs." Sahih International

The Arabic word:[size=15pt]ثَلَـٰثَةٌ[/size] which means Three (3). So Qur'an is telling you to desist from saying 3 i:e in reference to you who say "three people bear witness" i:e God, Holy spirit, Jesus joined and became One. That's polytheism.

And no, Qur'an doesn't say we should ask you if 'we' are confused. We are not confused....you are

Only a lie has different versions

AgricSalt:
Is the Trinity doctrine in the Bible? See here http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/trinity/

You might need to tell this to true2god, ifeann aka parisbookaddict, pastorkun,allnaijablogger and other like them that worship "3-headedgods" like picture seen below.

Empiree:
You might need to tell this to true2god, ifeann aka parisbookaddict, pastorkun,allnaijablogger and other like them that worship "3-headedgods" like picture seen below.

Please don't mention me unnecessarily.

^ okay, you believe in "trinity" or not?. I know ifean does. Is this nonsense you people want muslims to worship?. Hell, no.

Empiree:
You might need to tell this to true2god, ifeann aka parisbookaddict, pastorkun,allnaijablogger and other like them that worship "3-headedgods" like picture seen below.

You are a real dunce, where have you ever seen me support the trinity doctrine

PastorKun:


You are a real dunce, where have you ever seen me support the trinity doctrine

You don't support trinity and you don't believe paul, so what type of christian are you? I hope you are aware that Catholic protestant, JW consider you as heretic and hell fire bound.

Rilwayne001:


You don't support trinity and you don't believe paul, so what type of christian are you? I hope you are aware that Catholic protestant, JW consider you as heretic and hell fire bound.

Why do you muslims enjoy lying so much When did I ever say I don't believe Paul For the record I consider Paul as the greatest of the Apostles, a Man who worked tirelessly to preach God's glorious gospel to the gentiles. A man far greater than that character you call a prophet.

PastorKun:


[s] Why do you muslims enjoy lying so much When did I ever say I don't believe Paul For the record I consider Paul as the greatest of the Apostles, a Man who worked tirelessly to preach God's glorious gospel to the gentiles. A man far greater than that character you call a prophet. [/s]

Sorry for that, I mistake you for Pastor.AIO.

Yet, Catholic and protestant consider you as heretic and hell fire bound for not believing in trinity and for being an anti-tithe.

Rilwayne001:


Sorry for that, I mistake you for Pastor.AIO.

Yet, Catholic and protestant consider you as heretic and hell fire bound for not believing in trinity and for being an anti-tithe.

That's there problem, my salvation is not dependent on their unbiblical beliefs.

PastorKun:

You are a real dunce, where have you ever seen me support the trinity doctrine

So which bible trinitarians like ifeann and dejilg read?....that means you have different bibles, right?

oh wait ! you are "son of God" guy? I see.

That's there problem, my salvation is not dependent on their unbiblical beliefs.

But dejilg is proving trinity from bible. Look up there for his argument....are you not reading same book?

Rilwayne001:


Salam bro,

You are doing a great job on this section.


Jazakumullahu Kairan.

We all know 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 to the deluded trinitarian, trying to explain to them, they will tell you that you cant understand it unless you have holy spirit...SMH...The question I always ask this people is that, Why for so many years non of the old prophet taught this erroneous nature of God? atleast moses should have, if actually he did, the jews would also believe God is 3.

Doesn't it just annoy you. That one needs spirit to understand the same English that you read and write? HAHAHA. But I blame ALL of you for this. The emperor has been walking around n.aked for a while now, and you guys have been complimenting him on his elegant robes. Why won't somebody else compliment the n.aked emperor on the design of his trousers?

Rilwayne001:


Sorry for that, I mistake you for Pastor.AIO.

Yet, Catholic and protestant consider you as heretic and hell fire bound for not believing in trinity and for being an anti-tithe.

Lol. U are deluded.


Pastorkun is not considered hell fire bound for not believing or undertanding the trinity or triune nature of God.

For u to be a christain u have to accept Christ and be baptised. Acknowledge his sacrifice and his relationship with God the father.

This is the basics. People are always looking for ways to complicate things. Especially musliims who over complicates their quran, hadiths, sharia etc.

Peace.

Ifeann:


Lol. U are deluded.


Pastorkun is not considered hell fire bound for not believing or undertanding the trinity or triune nature of God.

For u to be a christain u have to accept Christ and be baptised. Acknowledge his sacrifice and his relationship with God the father.

This is the basics. People are always looking for ways to complicate things. Especially musliims who over complicates their quran, hadiths, sharia etc.

Peace.

have ya heard dat justice uwais son took his 2 wives and kids to join ISIL? I just pray dat tartar9 tola9ja 9jaforlife and co won't do same, tartar9 is back from depression ifeann, our prayer worked for him!

OREMUSSANCTUS:
have ya heard dat justice uwais son took his 2 wives and kids to join ISIL? I just pray dat tartar9 tola9ja 9jaforlife and co won't do same, tartar9 is back from depression ifeann, our prayer worked for him!

I am not surprised. . Devout muslims know that isis is doing exactly what the fraud prophet of Islam did during him time..

Let they go and get annihilated if it makes them happy.

Ifeann:


I am not surprised. . Devout muslims know that isis is doing exactly what the fraud prophet of Islam did during him time..

Let they go and get annihilated if it makes them happy.

guess we nid to pray harder for tartar9 and co. I only pity d innocent children dat were forced by a wicked decendant of muhammed to go and fight a war against dem wish.islam is false.

Empiree:
You might need to tell this to true2god, ifeann aka parisbookaddict, pastorkun,allnaijablogger and other like them that worship "3-headedgods" like picture seen below.

Stop mention ing this moniker. .I only use it when u Muslims ban my main account

Empiree:

So which bible trinitarians like ifeann and dejilg read?....that means you have different bibles, right?

oh wait ! you are "son of God" guy? I see.


But dejilg is proving trinity from bible. Look up there for his argument....are you not reading same book?

Again, I can see dat u do not relent on claiming to know the Bible, but its ur ignorance that u'd expose, even as it concerns the quran!!! now let's have fun showing how d muslim IQ is so bad!!!

Empiree:
These are other translations (Qur'an 4:171):

"O followers of the Book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the Messiah, Isa son of Marium is only an apostle of Allah and His Word which He communicated to Marium and a spirit from Him; believe therefore in Allah and His apostles, and say not, Three. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one Allah; far be It from His glory that He should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His, and Allah is sufficient for a Protector." Shakir


"O people of the Scripture (Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allah aught but the truth. The Messiah 'Îsa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Ruh ) created by Him; so believe in Allah and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allah is (the only) One Ilah (God), glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is All-Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs." Khan


"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs." Sahih International

The Arabic word:[size=15pt]ثَلَـٰثَةٌ[/size] which means Three (3). So Qur'an is telling you to desist from saying 3 i:e in reference to you who say "three people bear witness" i:e God, Holy spirit, Jesus joined and became One. That's polytheism.

And no, Qur'an doesn't say we should ask you if 'we' are confused. We are not confused....you are

Now dis shows how dubious and desperate d quran translators are, now that u hv agreed that allah never mentioned d "Trinity"...can we den say that "allah" never touched on the topic Or u stil wanna claim allah did? Show us this from the quran if so...
I really laff at ur eisegesis and how u shout "Paganism" even wen we have told u to stop misrepresenting the Christian faith...why do muslims set up "strawman argument"?...haven't I told u severally to stop saying we worship "3 gods"...? If u disagree abt ur ignorance on the "Trinity"...den define it according to ur undastnding here and let's see!!!

dejilg:


Again, I can see dat u do not relent on claiming to know the Bible, but its ur ignorance that u'd expose, even as it concerns the quran!!! now let's have fun showing how d muslim IQ is so bad!!!

This is irrelevant. All you have to do is prove it to your fellow Christians. You don't have to worry about me at all.

dejilg:

Now dis shows how dubious and desperate d quran translators are, now that u hv agreed that allah never mentioned d "Trinity"...can we den say that "allah" never touched on the topic Or u stil wanna claim allah did? Show us this from the quran if so...
I really laff at ur eisegesis and how u shout "Paganism" even wen we have told u to stop misrepresenting the Christian faith...why do muslims set up "strawman argument"?...haven't I told u severally to stop saying we worship "3 gods"...? If u disagree abt ur ignorance on the "Trinity"...den define it according to ur undastnding here and let's see!!!

Are you blind...?you didnt see it in my post?. Here it's again in Arabic

The Arabic word:ثَلَـٰثَةٌ which means Three (3). So Qur'an is telling you to desist from saying 3 i:e in reference to you who say "three people bear witness" i:e God, Holy spirit, Jesus joined and became One. That's polytheism.

And what concerns me with your nonsense doctrine. You the one that believe and defended it against op. So take me out of it.