You killed it particularly your last paragraph. I agree with you totally. Nigerians are funny people..at the end of the day they are all living in the economic cities rather than their so called graveyard called "livable cities".


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This post is so Pazienza..A mix of reality of situation and some dislike for PH.

PH cannot offer equal opportunities as Oil and its related business are the backbone of the city.If not the society we find ourselves, how would a graduate of Agric or the Arts migrate to PH and expect to hit it big in an Oil company.

Anyone desirous of striking gold in PH and not into the Oil should get creative and use his imagination to its utmost best..The opportunities abound.Get busy, start something.

I would take an economic city anyday to a laid-back, low-income city as i consider liveability a product of the serenity of my pocket.
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holysainbj:

You are so so wrong
Wen last u bin there?

2014

HopeAtHand:


This post is so Pazienza..A mix of reality of situation and some dislike for PH.

PH cannot offer equal opportunities as Oil and its related business are the backbone of the city.If not the society we find ourselves, how would a graduate of Agric or the Arts migrate to PH and expect to hit it big in an Oil company.

Anyone desirous of striking gold in PH and not into the Oil should get creative and use his imagination to its utmost best..The opportunities abound.Get busy, start something.

I would take an economic city anyday to a laid-back, low-income city as i consider liveability a product of the serenity of my pocket.

Haha! I can't hate PH, never,as an Igbo, I can't hate PH, I was just pointing out some observations I made in PH.

Cost of living in PH is so high, yet the cash flow is not much, except for those in oil and gas companies and related coys. For normal folks, money made in PH can often get spent there with not much to send home.

This is a complete contrast to Lagos, where employment opportunities abound for everyone, and prices of food and services so low that one can afford to save and repatriate home.

It's just a sentiment free, lay man observation that might not be true, but that's the way I see it.

You would observe that I never recommended any city as the best place to reside.


Btw, how are you nwanne, you are scarce these days,your absence allowed "aldrickay", an Ikwerre poster here, to get under my skin.

eaglechild:

True Ibadan is cheap but it comes with it's downside.

Recall flagging down a cab with a colleague of mine, when we came for a conference in Ibadan.

We needed to get to an ATM but all we got was blank stares from the driver.

He could not understand a single word of English, even broken down to the simplest phrases, and this was in the heart of the city.

We were almost stranded.

I take it that's the only driver/taxi in the whole of Ibadan, no?

cindicandy:
In no particular order: Ibadan, Calabar, Uyo and Abuja

remove uyo there...u think say na by good road? No adequate housing in uyo,epileptic power supply,keke nuisance, no investment in the state,akpabio is a thief

clevvermind:
i'm at abuja and i'm ok. abuja is the best.

Yes! Until boko haram meets you at your front door.

justmag:



Yes! Until boko haram meets you at your front door.

boko haram is not here ok.

pazienza:



Haha! I can't hate PH, never,as an Igbo, I can't hate PH, I was just pointing out some observations I made in PH.

Cost of living in PH is so high, yet the cash flow is not much, except for those in oil and gas companies and related coys. For normal folks, money made in PH can often get spent there with not much to send home.

This is a complete contrast to Lagos, were employment opportunities abound for everyone, and prices of food and services so low that one can afford to save and repatriate home.

It's just a sentiment free, lay man observation that might not be true, but that's the way I see it.

You would observe that I never recommended any city as the best place to reside.


Btw, how are you nwanne, you are scarce these days,your absence allowed "aldrickay", an Ikwerre poster here, to get under my skin.

Love your post.

@bolded, Wene, im good.. just that there are periods i just dnt get in the NL mood..Cant wait for elections,things are too stagnant.

clevvermind:
boko haram is not here ok.

maybe not now but they were and they maybe coming back.

justmag:


maybe not now but they were and they maybe coming back.

never again.

HopeAtHand:


Love your post.

@bolded, Wene, im good.. just that there are periods i just dnt get in the NL mood..Cant wait for elections,things are too stagnant.

Ok, good to know you are. good.

fatjo:
ah...blood of Jesus

what?is abuja not too expenses like my friend tolded me?

haitto99:
says who?

Me!!! I school dere

team lagos

listenersky:
I didn't type enugu, I said ibadan, read read again

No employment in naija generally. So wen talking employment in any naija city u av to do it comparable to oda city .....do u get dat sir?

Taylor86:
GEJ d transformer, always teaching APC how to tackle issues

APC where is buharis corpse.

Buhari's corps u wish pples general death? Ok ur wish to our on-coming president shall be urs Insha Allahu Amen

[quote author=forgiveness post=31246769]if it is based on Mercer's Quality of Living survey, the following categories are;

1, Consumer goods

2, Economic environment

3, Housing

4, Medical and Health consideration

5, Natural environment

6, Political and Social environment

7, Recreation

8, Schools and Education

9, social and cultural environment

10, Public services and Transportation

now, lets start with consumer goods

1,Consumer goods are Products that are purchased for consumption by the average consumer. Alternatively called final goods, consumer goods are the end result of production and manufacturing and are what a consumer will see on the[b] store[/b] shelf. Clothing, food, automobiles and jewelry are all examples of consumer goods.

Therefore, some of these goods most be easily available and in large quantity at an affordable price for average consumer. e.g Stores, shopping malls, fast food eateries, restaurants, markets, branded boutiques, car lots, car dealerships, antiques, home furniture show rooms, ecetera.

and these are the cities that meets the criteria; Ibadan and Lagos.

2, Economic environment; it consists of external factors in a business market and the broader economy that can influence a business. it can be divided in microeconomics environment and macroeconomic environment.

macroeconomic influences are broad economic factor that either directed or indirectly affects the entire economy and all its participants. These factors include such things as; Taxes, interest rates, currency exchange rates, inflation, consumer discretionary income, saving rates, consumer confidence levels, recession, depression and unemployment rate.

microeconomics factors influence how your businesses makes decision. factors are; Market size, Demand, supply, Competitors, Suppliers and Distribution chain, such as retailer stores.

the cities with such criteria are; Ibadan, Lagos and Abuja.


3, Housing; Housing generally refers to the social problem that ensuring members of the society have a home in which to live, whether this is a house or some form of dwelling, shelter or lodging. i.e housing must be affordable to an average member of the society.

considering this, Ibadan with more than 10 G.R.A, Estates and others, at an affordable price, and also rentable for one year, tops the list on housing, followed by Enugu and calabar.

4, health and medical consideration; Health is the level of functional or metabolic efficiency of a living organism. In humans it is the ability of individuals or communities to adapt and self-manage when facing physical, mental or social challenges.[1] The World Health Organization (WHO) defined health in its broader sense in its 1948 constitution as "a state of complete physical, mental, and social well-being and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity.

ii. medical consideration; relating to the study or practice of medicine; "the medical profession'' in the said cities.

considering the level of sanitation, cheap and quality public health, and advance medical services practices in some of cities. Lagos, port Harcourt and Ibadan top the list.



5, Natural environment; The natural environment encompasses all living and non-living things occurring naturally on Earth or some region thereof. It is an environment that encompasses the interaction of all living species. Climate, weather, and natural resources that affect human survival and economic.

Top on the list is Calabar, followed by Abuja and Enugu.


6, Political and Social Environment; Government actions which affects the operations of a company or business. These actions may be on local, regional, national or international level. Business owners and managers pay close attention to the political environment to gauge how government actions will affect their company. This has to do security issues that deals political violence, robbery, kidnapping ecetera.

ii, Social environment; the environment developed by humans as contrasted with the natural environment; society as a whole, especially in its relation to the individual.

The environment developed by humans as contrasted with the natural environment; society as a whole, especially in its relation to the individual. e,g if evidence for nepotism, tribalism is present in such a complex social environment or the tremendous stress of poverty and social isolation, then such cities lacks social relationship.

Ibadan, Lagos and .......


7, Recreation; Recreation is an activity of leisure, leisure being discretionary time.[1] The "need to do something for recreation" is an essential element of human biology and psychology.[2] Recreational activities are often done for enjoyment, amusement, or pleasure and are considered to be "fun".

Calabar with world class and jaw dropping places like Tinapa resort, Marina resort, Beach, top the list followed by Ibadan(Agodi resort and u.i zoo) and Abuja.


8, Schools and Education; Education in its general sense is a form of learning in which the knowledge, skills, values, beliefs and habits of a group of people are transferred from one generation to the next through storytelling, discussion, teaching, training, and or research. Education may also include informal transmission of such information from one human being to another.

Education is commonly and formally divided into stages such as preschool, primary school, secondary school and then college, university or apprenticeship. Therefore, schools with good schools from preschool, primary school, secondary school and then college and up university or apprenticeship are highly considered.

Ibadan with good schools that can educate your children from preschool up to university level top the list followed by Lagos and Enugu.


9, social and cultural environment.; Cultural environments consist of the influence of religious, family, educational, and social systems within the marketing system. Various features of a culture can create an illusion of similarity.

This also has to do with human relationship, religious tolerance, cultural history, and it influence the society to blend together.

Ibadan with her great cultural influence tops the list followed by Abuja and ......


10, Public services and Transportation; A public service is a service which is provided by government to people living within its jurisdiction, either directly (through the public sector) or by financing provision of services. The term is associated with a social consensus (usually expressed through democratic elections) that certain services should be available to all, regardless of income.

This is where the performance of the governments comes in. In terms of;
Electricity
Education
Emergency services
Environmental protection
Fire service
Gas
Health care
Law enforcement
Military
Postal service
Public broadcasting
Public library
Public security
Public transportation
Public housing
Social services
Telecommunications
Town planning
Waste management
Water supply network

And top one the list are; Lagos, port Harcourt and Uyo.

If we sum all these factors together, thn, IBADAN TOPS THE MOST LIVABLE CITY IN NIGERIA, FOLLOWED BY LAGOS AND .........

eaglechild:

Which Ibadan?

Is it there another Ibadan in Nigeria apart from the one i know?

Any time i visit Ibadan i wonder how people cope, i really pity the residents.

I cannot forget the rat experience i had in a supposedly 5 star hotel.
Would not want to go back there.

pple go just dey typ trash,wots d name of dis 5 star hotel located in ibadan?

mmsen:


I have to say that I am shocked to see people proclaiming Ibadan as the best city in Nigeria to live in. Have those people ever visited Calabar?

First place is Calabar followed by Uyo and Enugu.

All of the places I've listed are clean, orderly, safe, great roads (Uyo and Calabar in particular), great local eateries, with respectful and charming locals.

Abuja would be on that list were it not for the security issue.

guy u haven't been to ibadan before,so say ur own,n mak oda pple say dia own too...ao many industry dey dis calabar wey una dey alwas shout sef...I dey see plenty pple from d same cross river for lagos n ibadan.

walemoney007:
guy u haven't been to ibadan before,so say ur own,n mak oda pple say dia own too...ao many industry dey dis calabar wey una dey alwas shout sef...I dey see plenty pple from d same cross river for lagos n ibadan.

I've been to Ibadan, that is why I am surprised.

eaglechild:

I believe most of them have not really left Ibadan or are just doing so based on sentiment.

i'm really sure u av neva been to ibadan

walemoney007:
i hate guys lik u,,i'm really sure u av neva been to ibadan

I have been to Ibadan and that is not my idea of a liveable city.

They even dispose waste in the road median.

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walemoney007:
bull shit,so dey dont dispose waste on d road in d oda cities.....with all dis shout of enugu,why are igbos mot movin to enugu in large numbers...nah civil servant city b enugu

Ibadan may have a relatively large population but so does Bangladesh.

It does not make it liveable.

Ibadan lacks appeal to the outsider. It is poorly planned and falls short in basic amenities and sanitation when compared to its size and population.
I do not find rusted roofs appealing.

Ilorin for example is a more liveable.

mmsen:


I've been to Ibadan, that is why I am surprised.

Honestly, i just feel pity for some of these folks.

They really need to get out and explore the world around them.

RedBenson:


That's cool. Would love to meet you too. Can i PM you so we talk privately?

okay

Menace2Society:
Must u always tribalise everything u this stupid Ibo boy?

What has this got to do with tribe?

eaglechild:

Ibadan may have a relatively large population but so does Bangladesh.

It does not make it liveable.

Ibadan lacks appeal to the outsider. It is poorly planned and falls short in basic amenities and sanitation when compared to its size and population.
I do not find rusted roofs appealing.

Ilorin for example is a more liveable.

alalubosa,oluyole extension etc has rusted roofs abi,but dia are no rusted roof in ilorin.u avent been to dis two cities before

walemoney007:
alalubosa,oluyole extension etc has rusted roofs abi,but dia are no rusted roof in ilorin.u avent been to dis two cities before

I have been to the two cities and i find Ilorin to be saner, cleaner and more livable.

Every city has good and bad sections.

The bad in Ibadan by far outweighs the good

Takim107:
okay

Sent you a PM. Reply asap.