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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by Dkbb: 10:53am On Mar 04, 2015 |
@kizluv(f):Hospital name Missouri baptist hospital , st Loius, missouri. How are u doing & baby? I sent u PM but no response from u. I would like to have more details on Baptist hospital in Missouri, can I also have Dr. Timothy's email address. kindly send me a mail or PM me and I would respond. Thanks Sis |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by pepeflavor: 10:56am On Mar 04, 2015 |
pepeflavor: Please help a sister with some info abeg |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by Terese69: 11:06am On Mar 04, 2015 |
Hi Guys, Please I have a question that's bothering me. I am due in September but I have a visitor's visa that will expire in May. I have the visa twice since I got it. My dilemma now is do I just renew my current visa after expiry via dropbox and then notify them of my intent to give birth in the US in September afterwards. Or am I required to apply for a Medical/Tourism visa instead? What do you guys think? I am scared of being turned back at the POE. Please help! |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by Nobody: 11:24am On Mar 04, 2015 |
justwise: So na clear eye you take put this thread for front page? I thought you were under the influence. . . ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by justwise(m): 11:34am On Mar 04, 2015 |
Phema: I did not, the admin did...going FP brings a lot of crooks here 1 Like |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by mabels: 11:55am On Mar 04, 2015 |
[quote author=sayoberry post=31267149] I travelled at 31weeks cos Its twins. The tests were divided Into two. Had them on two different appointments and the results were sent to me through mail. thank sayoberry |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by mabels: 12:11pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
@ princeadeade Tvegas, sayoberry. Pls i would like to confirm where you had your appointments That is, office address of Dr Fagbohun. Just want to know how close the place is. thanks |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by fayemzbaba: 12:36pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
Hello nairalanders, And so I have been silently learning from y'all and I really want to commend everyone who has at some point given pointers, shared personal experiences for the success of fellow expecting mums and Dads. My situation goes thus, wife had previously travelled to the US (visa obtained while she was in the UK), but was denied twice on renewal because she had an issue at ATL POE ( was stopped and visa almost got cancelled) but was later allowed to continue her trip but I am sure it was recorded because it was mentioned in her interviews. she is 27 weeks pregnant and plan to use Oakbend Medical Centre, I have contacted Dr Fagbohun and he has accepted to cater for her delivery. My issue is this; a. At the third attempt she was issued the visa for vacation as stated in her application but was not questioned if she was pregnant or expecting and she didn't disclose since she wasn't asked (probably due to fear of being denied again) as she wasn't really showing. b. Visa was issued in February and she is due in May; I am of the opinion she should send a letter of change on intent to the US Consulate notifying them she intends to have a baby in the US. That she wasn't decided on having the baby in the US initially when applying for the US visa but has a change of mind and wants to. In order to avoid POE issues, proof of funds, and Dr's appointment is not an issue at this point but I hope the reason stated is (b) above is viable to avoid any allegations of visa fraud or not disclosing true intent of applying for the visa. Constructive opinions please. Thanks everyone and any mum due in May/June with a 2 bedroom apartment to share in Richmond or Sugarland should also contact me. |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by Nasadiva: 2:08pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
[quote author=Ivylane post=31285148]PRESENT!!!!!! PRESENT TOO.!!! |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by Nita2013: 2:22pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
Hello, when ur wife applied for d visa, was it with d intention of birthing or vacation? If it was for birthing then she should av declared it because she was far gone in February (that is if it's February 2015) I don't think she should send d letter oh cos it might be dicey. My advice will be she should arm herself with all d doctor's correspondence, accommodation booking et all and also enough cash and also go tru a stress free POE like new york. Also if u don't mind u can let d house kno what happened at her ATL POE so advice can be given based on that too. fayemzbaba: |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by tbaby2015: 2:31pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
fayemzbaba: My opinion from other people's experiences on the thread is, sheshould send a letter to the embassy informing them. She has a point in that, she was not asked at the interview which she could state as a reason. However, just like earlier advised, also avoid difficult POEs. I believe she'll be fine with that and all her docs intact. My opinion though |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by worry359(m): 2:45pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
tbaby2015:She needs to notify the embassy, otherwise at POE if they do the calculation they could say she committed fraud by not telling the visa officer. 1 Like |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by Nita2013: 3:03pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
Someone on this thread notified d embassy after she came across this thread. That page was amongst d pages we lost (but I can't remember if she was asked durin d interview if she was pregnant) and her visa was cancelled. That's y I said it's dicey to send that letter cos it's obvious she wanted to birth but used vacation cos of d previous denials. Even if she wasn't asked and she was sure she wanted to birth, then she should av declared. worry359: 4 Likes |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by ebonychic18(f): 3:04pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
Hello everyone please pls @make sure you inform the embassy by sending an email to them. My bff ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by lahips: 3:05pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
fayemzbaba: I may not have the direct answer to your question but maybe you could learn from my experience. i applied for a B2 visa dec 2013 and was given, the intention was to go for Easter with my husband, i later realized in Jan i was pregnant, i had to travel Feb 2014 with the pregnancy though it did not show. ( This was so as to avoid my first entry being with obvious pregnancy as i assume first entry with a big stomach might be tricky). Then in July i traveled again this time to have the baby, at the point of entry nobody asked me any pregnancy related question, i remember all we where asked to do was to fill out a form, which had to do with declaration of money, and we where verbally asked what we where going to do with the money and my husband said we intend to spend the summer there as well as shop for the baby, that was when the lady looked at me and did not still ask any question relating to the pregnancy. she just showed us where to submit the form and we passed You can call the consulate office via this number to make your enquiries, 014406218-US visa enquiry help desk. So if you ask me i would say writing back to the embassy is useless. that is my personal opinion so long as she has her visa and cash. The intensity of her initial issue at ATL POE too could affect her, just be guided. but i guess the help desk will be useful since we do not work at the embassy. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by Nita2013: 3:07pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
This embassy pple are sensible oh. Take a look at d scenerio, u got ur visa in February and u said u were goin for vacation. Then 3months later u are comin to say u changed ur mind and u want to use it for birthing cos u r pregnant. She can use POE like JFK where they don't really stress pple or better still take d risk and inform d embassy and pray to get d normal response 1 Like |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by Nita2013: 3:14pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
Ur own case my dear is a little different cos from ur story u didn't even know u were pregnant as at d time of application. And u even still went ahead to use d visa for d purpose it was issued but some pple won't av that luxury of time/money. My opinion though, she should not inform d embassy. [quote author=lahips post=31295350] I may not have the direct answer to your question but maybe you could learn from my experience. i applied for a B2 visa dec 2013 and was given, the intention was to go for Easter with my husband, i later realized in Jan |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by Nita2013: 3:23pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
It's not just about informing d embassy dear. Kindly ask ur bff if she declared her pregnancy when she applied or if she wasn't pregnant when she applied. In my case I wasn't pregnant when I applied and afterwards I informed d embassy. That's been truthful unlike knowin fully well why u applied for d visa and telling them otherwise. Also in cases like that, houston POE is a no go area cos they r super strict there even with those that declared, some were still stressed at houston POE not to talk of who did not . [quote author=ebonychic18 post=31295344]Hello everyone please pls @make sure you inform the embassy by sending an email to them. My bff ![]() |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by justwise(m): 3:31pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
fayemzbaba:Your wife has a history already and refusing to inform the embassy in this occasion will not help her case. She was clearly pregnant during the interview and refused to disclose that, it's even better to face the embassy in Nigeria than been sent back at POE. Let her get all required documents then send the embassy an email with those documents attached. Whatever the reply is will be better than the ugly experience at the POE. 5 Likes |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by dere5: 3:39pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
Phema:Phema you are in the spirit. I think say na only me think say Justwise shack something. Lol. |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by Terese69: 3:40pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
Terese69: PLEASE HELP ME OOOO!!! (See my previous message) Thanks ![]() |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by Nkem234: 3:47pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
[quote author=Nita2013 post=31295290]Someone on this thread notified d embassy after she came across this thread. That page was amongst d pages we lost (but I can't remember if she was asked durin d interview if she was pregnant) and her visa was cancelled. That's y I said it's dicey to send that letter cos it's obvious she wanted to birth but used vacation cos of d previous denials. Even if she wasn't asked and she was sure she wanted to birth, then she should av declared. I totally agree with you. The wrong was done when she did not inform the VO of her intentions of birthing with the visa.The US is not against foreigners coming to birth if we are capable of paying for our medical bills.Rather,they are concerned about the lies we tell to obtain visas (FRAUD) I will travel without sending the letter choosing a very friendly POE and let God do the rest. Good luck 3 Likes |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by dere5: 4:01pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
Terese69: You can renew via drop box since your present B1/B2 allows for medical ( i'm assuming you have a b1/b2 visa) You can then do a mail to the embassy afterwards informing them of your intentions, worse case scenario is that they might invite you for a chat as we have seen happen here with some folks and you go with your burden of proof. |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by abbyode(m): 4:16pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
I dont really agree that u will be sent back home at POE because of failure to write a letter of intent. Plans do change. Look at my own scenario, my wife has gone to US twice in with her initial visitor's visa. The visa was to expire in April ending at the same time she will be due to give birth. Obviously the visa will expire before leaving the US around May thereabouts. Several suggestions came that she should not renew the visa here for possibility of getting refused coz shez now pregnant and all that. Another school of thought said it doesnt matter as she will be stamped in for 6 mths at the point of entry etc. At the end of the day, I looked at the whole case OBJECTIVELY and i acted without any intent to lie. She applied for renewal (drop box) in February that she would be going on vacation. Afterall, there is nothing like pregnancy visa and giving birth may as well qualify for going on vacation(maternity leave). She was given another two years without sneezing. Remember, there was no interview, meaning no opportunity to see her pregnancy. At the POE in atlanta two weeks ago, we were there together and i was the one answering questions: VO: Why are you here? ME: On vacation, and my wife will stay back to give birth (Pure truth) VO: Have you contacted any doctor? ME: Yes VO: Do you have any evidence? ME: Yes, and i handed him the letter from the doctor (Mwhile, we have made some part payment of the doctor's fees alone) VO: How much do you have with you? ME: $1100 VO: Is that all you have with you? ME: Yes, but I have some funds on my Mastercard (Showed him my Union Bank Card) VO: Where would you be staying? ME: with my Sister VO: Stamped my passport, handed it over to me. Stamped my wife's passport and put in a yellow bag and called a lady . The lady took us to another office, i think for secondary inspection. We were alone in one room. Then they called my wife. (Now first time she was gonna talk herself) After few mins she came back. VO: Why are you in the US? My wife: To deliver a baby VO: How much do you have with you? My wife: $1100 VO: He checked the declaration form (we wrote same amount there) The visa officer asked her to go back and have a seat. 2 mins later, he called the two of us out. VO: (Handed my wife her passport) VO: Good luck with the baby, rmber to collect all the receipts. My wife: Thank you. Then we left. Next time, she will appear at POE all she has to do is to have zero balance letter handy just in case she requires it. Plans do change. Just make sure that whatever you are saying is nothing but the truth per time. Thank you, hope this helps someone. We plan to use Gwinnett hospital though. Any experience to share as per Gwinnett? Thanks. 8 Likes |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by tbaby2015: 4:19pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
dere5: thanks @dere5 and @nefertitiram |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by dere5: 4:22pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
MrMandilas: After getting a hospital and doctor that is willing to accept your wife,if your correspondence with both doctor and hospital is by phone,then you should request them to send you a mail in the case of the hospital with their fee breakdown,while that from the doctor should also indicate that he is willing to accept you and a breakdown of his fees,these you will then print out as part of your burden of proof Some doctors demand for a fee for this service while others dont,it all depends on the doctor you are using. Your wedding certificate can be from any church,the important thing is that they are authorised by law to conduct mariages. |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by justwise(m): 4:25pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
fayemzbaba: abbyode: Are those two cases the same? 3 Likes |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by Airpure(f): 4:41pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
fayemzbaba: This might not fall under constructive but there is clearly Visa Fraud here she got d Visa in February n she is due in may too close na . I think u should put ur burden of proof together cos she might be invited to d embassy when u send d intent letter. |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by MrMandilas: 4:42pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
dere5:thanks a lot. Pls do u have any hospital and doctor i can use? |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by dere5: 4:45pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
abbyode:My brother,you guys enjoyed devine favour. First of all you guys had just $1100 cash and told CBP officer that the rest was inside card, did you go with your bank statement . I know of someone that was sent back at POE because she had only $3000 on her and claimed the rest was inside card and she dint have her bank statement with her, the cbp officer just told her that her $3000 will not cut it and that there is no way he can confirm how much she has on her card,na from there wahala burst o. And moreover your case is even totally diffrent from her,your wife did dropbox renewal,while she appeared in person at interview and told them she was going for vacation and will show up at poe 2or 3 months latter with big belle. Enough advice has been given,she should weigh her options and decide. I wish her all the best 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by happytbaby: 4:46pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
Federal agents raid 20 suspected 'maternity hotels' in California Reuters By Steve Gorman LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Federal agents raided about 20 Southern California locations on Tuesday suspected of involvement in "maternity tourism" schemes offering travel and lodging services to pregnant foreign women seeking to give birth in the United States, U.S. immigration officials said. Authorities say the so-called maternity hotels targeted in the sweep catered largely to women from China who paid $15,000 to $50,000, depending on services provided, in hopes of obtaining U.S. citizenship for their children. The locations searched included apartment complexes and other sites in Los Angeles, Orange and San Bernardino counties that were suspected of housing foreign clients, according to a statement issued by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency, or ICE. No criminal arrests were anticipated from Tuesday's raids, which were carried out by federal agents and local law enforcement, the agency said. The U.S. Constitution grants citizenship to any child born on U.S. soil, regardless of parentage, and immigration experts say there was nothing inherently illegal about women coming from abroad to give birth to children in the United States. But investigators are seeking evidence related to such possible criminal offenses as visa and tax fraud, money laundering and conspiracy, immigration officials said. Any women encountered at the locations raided on Wednesday were to be interviewed, and those identified as potential material witnesses will be instructed where and when to report for further questioning, ICE said. Businesses engaged in maternity tourism, also known as "birth tourism," are believed to have been operating for several years, relying on websites, newspaper advertising and social media to promote their services, immigration officials said. Based on the results of previous investigations, the women who subscribe apparently pay cash for pre-natal medical treatment and actual delivery of their babies. As part of the package, clients were promised they would receive Social Security numbers and U.S. passports for their infants - documentation the mothers would take with them when they returned to their home countries, ICE said. Once the children, who by birth are U.S. citizens, reach adulthood they can apply for visas for family members living abroad. More expensive packages "include recreational activities, such as visits to Disneyland, shopping malls and even an outing to a firing range," the ICE statement said. The practices came to public attention in California in recent years when residents of some Los Angeles-area communities complained about what they said were maternity hotels springing up in their neighborhoods, causing sanitation and other issues. 2 Likes |
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 2 by Nita2013: 4:47pm On Mar 04, 2015 |
Exactly what I was tryin to say. It's just too close. Airpure: |
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