davien:
So tell us the ideologies that atheists share, I'm sure you're the usual guy who copies and pastes stuff without any knowledge....So you'll probably start listing materialism...and scientific axioms that have nothing to do with atheism.

folaski:
All human beings are religious without any exception. It is what they worship and how they worship that differs. For anyone to say he/she does not have a religion is not true. This is because we all hold ideologies or believes systems.

For instance if you are a strong believer in Carl Max's philosophy of life, that will be the guiding principle that governs your life. So in a sense Carl Max is your god who's opinion guides your life. You have idolised him.

If you are so bound to anything or anyone then you have a god in them ad so you are religious.

folaski:


your assumption about me is wrong to start with. I wonder if i have ever even met you.

Note that i did not say that there is a general ideology. But for clarity you share yours and i will point you to your god from it. Dare to try?

davien:
I'm not aware of any ideology I follow nor idolize...

laniyi07:
a fool says in his heart 'there's no God'. does this mean atheist are fools?



na question o and as una like to reason na im I say make we reason this matter o

laniyi07:
a fool says in his heart 'there's no God'. does this mean atheist are fools?

davien:
Well...If you're a christian...that's what you're bro believe...
But if you aren't then that statement becomes nonsensical...because the bible is riddled with foolish ideas....like how birds blood could cure leprosy and how stars can be trampled on...

timmy2409:


"A foolish God says in his heart, there are no other Gods" - logicboy03

laniyi07:
hmmm....... I didnt mention the bible in my initial post cos I wanted people like u to figure it out.lemme now quote another powerful one to answer you. 'the message of the cross is foolishness to them that are perishing but to usward is the power of God'.

I still would v preferred u had not mentioned the bible but now that u have. maybe we should talk about the book small na

davien:
It's funny that you'd think I wouldn't know that you were highlighting a verse in the "bible"..
And I think if you'd like to draw out your "bible", then do so instead of putting your tongue in your cheek and missing one verse after the other...

laniyi07:
ur knowledge of the bible is impressive....do you or use to have a relationship with the author of the bible?

DProDG:
Why do we bother arguing about definitions when we've got dictionaries?

DProDG:
Role models do not equate to gods. Even if you decide to use that word, bear in mind that it has different meanings and does not always mean deity as used in the religious sense.

DProDG:
Also, being enthusiastic about something/someone doesn't make you religious.

onetrack:
I'm atheist but I generally agree with humanist thought. WHO IS MY GOD??

FOLYKAZE:


Defining the word "religion" is fraught with lot difficulties. No one definition can encompass all the varieties of belief and practice that have been called religion. Actually, it is a universal social institution, but it takes a multitude of forms. The dictionaries you have will only define one aspect or form of it while leaving the rest uncovered which is uneven justice.

An influence person is god according to dictionary.

Titan which is god and mean powerful person.
According to many organised religion; especially christianity, human is god.
So this assertion is wrong.

reverance is equivalent to worship which is a very constant word in many definitions.

We worship people and that makes them a god.

davien:
The numerous authors of the bible are long dead...

laniyi07:
reason comes to play here again.....kudos.....look at it this way. the people who wrote the bible were inspired to do so(u just have to agree to this fact), my question is; do you know who/what inspired them?

davien:
Evidence sites they were inspired by previous incarnation of myths....like the epic of gilgamesh and ancient pre-judaic legends like the coming of immanuel....

DProDG:

The conventional definition of a religion only has to do with the worship of a deity, based on faith. Any group or organisation that does such can be classified as a religion.

DProDG:

I used the word deity previously so we could put the semantics surrounding 'god' to rest. You said it yourself, the word 'god' has different meanings and yet the OP uses it as one.

DProDG:

And no, according to Christianity, Yahweh/Jehovah is God.

DProDG:

Yes, more word games. God≠deity.

FOLYKAZE:

The Op is talking about religion generally and not conventional form of it.

And going by your assertion that religion has to do with worship of deity then we have to agree that confusionism, taosim and buddhism is not a religion. This assertion as you know is wrong because confusionism, taoism, buddhism and jainism neither worship deity not necessarily recognise it existense.

Deity is (could mean) the samething as God. Human as well is God.
History justified that kings and emperiors are worship in the ancient worlds. In many cultures today, human being are being worship as God. I can list human god in there number to you.

wrong sir

Reference to http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=definition%20deity&spell=1&sa=X , deity = god/goddess

[s]Religion as defined by many scholars spread over atheism[/s]. Going by your conventional religion definition stated as worship of deity, [s]atheism is still under the tent of religion[/s].

Let me define those two important term in religion; worship and deity/god.

1. Worship is acknowledging worth of someone or something.

2. God/deity is very much a cap that fit man's head esp influencial person.

Atheists generally acknowledge the worth of influencial person. This when put back in few words mean atheist worship god. This is a religion.[quote]
I've addressed the emboldened. Acknowledging the worth of Karl Marx doesn't make it a religion till he's considered a deity. You also seem to forget that there are both religious and non-religious definitions of 'worship'.

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There are many definition of religion atheisms still stand under for shade.

Prof. Robert Bellah defines religion as a set of symbolic forms and acts that relate man to the ultimate conditions of his existence. This definition certainly extends the concept to cover non-theistic philosophies of life such as materialism, naturalism etc and including atheism.

Edmund Optiz said your religion is the fundamental way you approach, understand, and evaluate all subjects. It consists of your first principles, the truths you regard as self-evident, the basic axioms you take for granted, and through which you view everything else.

So pls tell me sir, from the two definitions how atheism doesnt fit in.

laniyi07:
can you site a specific example to support your 'evidence'

johnydon22:
Uuuuhm so atheism is a religion Eeeehn am starting to wonder when "OFF" is a tv station.

davien:
I'm not aware of any ideology I follow nor idolize...

DProDG:
Why do we bother arguing about definitions when we've got dictionaries?


Role models do not equate to gods. Even if you decide to use that word, bear in mind that it has different meanings and does not always mean deity as used in the religious sense.

Also, being enthusiastic about something/someone doesn't make you religious.

folaski:


yes atheism is way of life and its a belief that some people hold religiously the way Christian holds Jesus; very religiously.