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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Scatterboss(m): 9:51am On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista: Ogun state is not Abeokuta alone. SDP is only popular in Egba cos of Osoba. I cant stop laughing at your post, dont wanna argue with you anymore. 1 Like |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 9:54am On Mar 17, 2015 |
ilugunboy:I was in Abk few days ago bros. |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 9:54am On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista:You definately dont know what you are talking about. What do you mean by APC is not on ground? Few weeks ago. Governor Ibikunle Amoun and Prof Yemi Osibanjo took their campaign to Ijebu waterside, a journey of about 2hours on boat. I doubt if PDP, SDP or any of those mushroom parties have campaigned inside the interiors of Ogun state as APC |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 9:56am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Scatterboss:I don't based my positions on assumption but on events. |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by mandarin: 10:00am On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista: Barcanista, your aggressiveness isn't going to determine the outcome of the election. People mention names of influencers but I tell you all those can't amount to more than 10%. You have money you spend and still lose election.Voters awareness is different and believe me, over 70% will not vote according to godfather dictates. That's two edged sword cos in Lagos, some won't vote APC too. You see, its easy to per mutate, talk about active godfathers and think elections in the SW follows a national pattern, that's a lie. Governorship elections in Ogun and Oyo will be hotly contested but Lagos will be colder. Pls challenge me after the Presidential election and convince me how GEJ intends to win 50% of SW votes |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Gbawe2: 10:02am On Mar 17, 2015 |
SirShymexx: You are one of the few posters here I like and respect. This is the only reason I am even responding. I have absolutely no interest in contributing my opinion on any thread started by this OP. Doing so is like a father with young children having to 'hang out' with a hardened and unrepentant paedophile. The OP, as you know now, is a totally disgusting human being any decent and morally upright person , whether APC or PDP, will avoid. Suffice to say, as is the case with unprincipled mercenaries like FFK, OP is delusional attempting to speak for the SW. I can tell you all that majority of average Yorubas do not have a single reason to vote for GEJ. Not one and they are determined to resist and reject him. People can believe me if they want or not but I can authoritatively state here that it is the overwhelming defeat GEJ was facing in the SW that necessitated the much-condemned election postponement. They wanted to try and use the 7 extra weeks to buy every opinion leader in the SW to help them deliver a GEJ win. It is not working so far and GEJ is on a 'long thing'. "Maga don come" things. Anyone giving credibility to the analysis of the hungry OP is simply naive. OP is a discredited character who works on 'guestimates' while trying to be the insider he will never be. He is the same character who started panicking here about Buhari losing the APC primaries because info was put in the public domain, by PDP desperados, that Atiku had successfully out-bribed all others and was on course to defeat Buhari. Him and others will confess I told them it was all hogwash. I was privy to information that made me realise Buhari would win overwhelmingly because the SW 'big boys' were working for him and would not entertain any derailment of their 'mission'. I told them this but many did not believe me. Yet we all know what happened. It is the same with the upcoming election never mind the delusions of GEJ and his crew. Similarly, as I predicted the outcome of the APC presidential Primaries and Lagos guber primaries, I am saying here and now that GEJ will not win in the SW if elections are free and fair. On the contrary, the people of the region will disgrace him and the PDP. I can't speak about some things publicly but I will tell you that the PDP, because it is a Party of desperate men and women scared about their future, is operating on 'dutch courage' and pretence bravado. The underground truth is that the APC is not talking much but the Party is fully ready, on all fronts, to counter and overcome the PDP. Who is Gani Adams , Fasehun, FFK, Obanikoro et al? Is it because the Yoruba heavyweight are silent that makes the 'omo ales' think they now run the show? Those who matter in Yoruba land know what they have to do. I will leave it at that. The wise and experienced heads here should ask themselves why Lagos did not fall into PDP hands even under the uber-bully OBJ was. Therein lies the clue to the omerta-style code that will play out to leave the PDP stunned. Imagine silly TANdroid children who are not from the SW pinning their hopes on loquacious, turncoat and desperate opportunists like Fayose, Obanikoro, FFK, Adams et al when the real self-made leaders of the region, that the people respect and obey , have already passed on the message about what must happen. I dey laff. As they say " e go do dem like film". 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 10:02am On Mar 17, 2015 |
lakhadimar:Who's mobilising for APC in Ogun State? The Onabanjos are with SDP, all 3 Senators who are even executing projects are with SDP, the Osoba Structure is firmly with SDP, cabinet members and SAs of Amosun resigned their jobs to join SDP. 5 Reps are with SDP with only 2 for APC and 2 for PDP. In the State House of the 26 members, 13 are with APC, 10 PDP and 3 SDP. The APC 13 were promised and given automatic tickets. Who mobilises for APC? Kaka is SDP. Who? Amosun will find it tough in his Central disctric. #Remember Ekiti 2 Likes |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 10:03am On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista: Accord has never overtly or covertly supported Jonathan's re-election anywhere. |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Scatterboss(m): 10:06am On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista: We are talking of OGD vs Amosun and not Dipo Dina. Everyone knows Dipo was a strong force and reason the OGD squad arranged a Funsho Williams style for him. What history? We are talking of live politics as a witness and you talking newspaper propaganda, so you mean the same Amosun that introduced a nonentity OGD to Obasanjo and co in 2003 to defeat Osoba is a nobody. Go ask about the tribunal case of OGD vs Amosun in 2007 and why it was struck out. SIMPLE! 2015 election is between Amosun/Osoba and OGD is even out of it. GNI will lose woefully, he destroyed gateway holdings during the time of OGD and people believe a vote for him is automatically for OGD. I dont need to argue with you anymore, we shall see in few weeks time. 4 Likes |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Scatterboss(m): 10:09am On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista: So you know more than people on ground? Your argument are based on newspaper stories, Amosun that refused to reconcile with Osoba is no fool, he even allow his deputy to decamp and ignore him. Hehehehehe. Politics of Ogun is local and secretive. 1 Like |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Demdem(m): 10:14am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Scatterboss: Barcanista is a ND man. Is like u saying in Rivers, who mobilizes more than Peter Odili ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by maestroferddi: 10:15am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Bruteforce1o1:You guys have tunnel vision. Amosun would probably win re-election but that does not signify that Ogun is done and dusted for APC. There are a lot of political heavyweights fighting a battle of survival/relevance here just like @Baywater rightly pointed out. It would amount to living in a fool's paradise to assume that PDP will not give a good account of itself in Ogun. Not with the likes of Buruj Kashamu, Osoba, Gbenga Daniel, Gbenga Kaka and two other senators. I am sure that even Amosun himself knows what he is up against and therefore will never display the ignorance most people are exhibiting here. 1 Like |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 10:18am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Scatterboss:Obasanjo is politically irrelevant in Ogun politics. I have earlier stated that the combined forces of OGD, Amosun and Obj sent Osoba packing in 2003. However, Amosun became governor majorly because of the split in PDP and the political magnanimity of Osoba. Why didn't Amosun remain in CPC in 2011? Who had most slot for that 2011 poll within the AC.N in 2011? repeated argument won't help, however, writing off PDP shows that you need to do a thorough review of Ogun politics. The PDP of 2011 is not same PDP of 2015. |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 10:19am On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista: . . . . . . .@bolded . . . . .bloody liar . . . . . . .results for Ogun in 2007 were as follows; PDP Gbenga Daniel 426,132 ANPP Ibikunle Amosun 135,149 AC Dipo Dina 79,915 DPA Gbenga Kaka 6,403 AD Deji Osinowo 2,521 PPA Oluwaseun Omotayo 1,817 NCP Lanre Banjo 579 1 Like |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Gbawe2: 10:22am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Scatterboss: Don't pay attention to that charlatan. He knows nothing and tries to guess as he goes along. Amosun is an underground gangster. I won't mention names but those who know Ogun politics will know how many 'enemies' Amosun has 'wasted' to be where he is today. The forces that congregated against him was no joke. It included people who staked their political future to take Amosun down by leaving the APC to join the Osoba SDP brigandage against the Ogun State Governor yet they have serious regrets today because they have realised that Osoba is nothing but a bitter, disgruntled, frustrated, dishonourable and very dishonest old man. Some of these guys, underground, are even trying to now come back to the APC after Osoba used, extorted and dumped them. We all know the OP is an uninformed joker and the gullible children here can entertain his ego but every informed Nairalander knows he is someone with no credibility or useful knowledge about anything let alone SW politics which is a very complex 'smorgasbord' of permanent interests. 5 Likes |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Bruteforce1o1: 10:25am On Mar 17, 2015 |
maestroferddi: Ogun state politics is not like the SE politics. Which Buruji? ![]() ![]() Amosun will surely win, not with wide margin but GEJ will lose woefully in Ogun state. 5 Likes |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 10:26am On Mar 17, 2015 |
maestroferddi:The odds is not favorable to Amosun. SDP is the party dictating the pace in Ogun State as at today. How can Amosun win the election? The structure that brought him to power is no longer with him. The division in PDP that catalysed his emergence is no longer there. Amosun's mistake was to think that his incumbency is enough. Even Kwakwaso that performed a lot lost to Shekarau of ANPP in Kano 2003. Why? Because the structure that brought him to power in 1999 moved to ANPP to support GMB/Shekarau. In politics, you don't just sit and lose associates just like that, not to talk of influential associates. I said it in Ekiti after analysis that Fayemi will lose. I analysed Osun and predicted victory for Aregbesola. We shall see the outcome in Ogun and Oyo States. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Scatterboss(m): 10:29am On Mar 17, 2015 |
torkaka: You dey mind that one, i saw that aspect and just laugh. That was why i said he should go ask about the tribunal case of OGD Vs Amosun. He only relies on newspaper reports. 1 Like |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 10:31am On Mar 17, 2015 |
torkaka:Thanks for the refresher. Daniel- 426132 Amosun- 135149 The difference is cleaaaaaaaar!!!! The point is Amosun need alliance to retain his seat. |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by integralng: 10:34am On Mar 17, 2015 |
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Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Scatterboss(m): 10:35am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Gbawe2: Bros, you are absolutely right. All those boys that work with OGD during his terror reign fled in 2011, most are now in UK, South Africa and US. I have many of them as friends and we do gist daily. I feared that man Amosun more when he refused to reconcile with Osoba and also ignore his Deputy that decamp with Osoba, politics in SW is not a tea party. They run things underground and you can only convince Ogun voters with your performance before doing some other minor underground jobs and that was why Amosun performed wonderfully well and even execute more projects cos of his 2nd term. I just laugh at people that come on nairaland to say what they dont know. I dont discuss politics of other region cos i dont know much about them. 3 Likes |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Scatterboss(m): 10:39am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Gbawe2: God bless you for that coded message. The mighty Do or Die Obasanjo was disgraced in Lagos and Ogun, Who the hell is Gani Adams? Cant stop laughing. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Walelavender(m): 10:40am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Write-off APC @ your own peril. Why did the South-West (except Osun) vote GEJ(PDP) massively in 2011 on a saturday of the presidential election for them to turn around to vote in Fashola,Amosun,Ajimobi (APC) on the day of the governorship elections. This research doesn't hold water. PDP has had close to 16 years. We need something different and better. We ain't a one party state! Since 1999, this would be the first time the ruling party is catching severe cold. Give the opposition a CHANCE for CHANGE! 1 Like |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by ElFenomeno1: 10:42am On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista: Flawed analysis! LP, SDP and Accord parties are all political light weighted bodies who lack regional spread, popularity and credence across the SW geopolitical zone! They will fail massively ..... I predict only a few lawmaker seats will be shared amongst those lightweight parties in the region! Ogun State, the only area likely to do something tangible in the house of reps.... Senate and Governorship and Presidential will be swept by APC! In Oyo State, APC will muscle most of the prominent seats in the state and the presidential polls should go to APC. The buber will be fiercely contested but i expect Ajimobi to shade it! In Ekiti, we will witness surprises..... and Ondo as well.. Bookmark this! Lagos will vote enmasse for APC at all levels and the rest of the South Western States will also swing APC way! |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Bruteforce1o1: 10:42am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Walelavender: That is the clear message. They vote for candidate that perform well, I dont know about those Ekiti people anyway. 1 Like |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 10:46am On Mar 17, 2015 |
This matter is simple, we all know majority of ibos will vote jonathan and it is evident from the comments of south easterners here and everywhere else across the internet, and no one contests that, it is exactly the same with yorubas too, it is all too clear that the majority of yorubas will not be voting jonathan, if you like deny it, it wont change the facts on ground. This thread itself is a testament to the fact that yorubas are not with jonathan, no one opens a thread to tell us south easterners will be voting gej because we already know. 3 Likes |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Gbawe2: 10:48am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Scatterboss: Eyan mi, the OP is an egotistical, desperate and uninformed charlatan who relies on newspaper info alone. Even in the SDP camp, as we speak now, there is serious backstabbing and underground treachery going on. Ogun State politics? I dey laff. 5 Likes |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Scatterboss(m): 10:53am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Gbawe2: Of course, but we have to set the record straight. Politics in Ogun state politics is tough and more reason they assasinate people anyhow. You cant see Amosun talking about anyone or doing much advert, he is working underground and people are solidly behind him. 2 Likes |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 10:54am On Mar 17, 2015 |
ElFenomeno1:Accord in Oyo a lightweight? SDP in Oyo and Ogun also lightweight? LP in the SW that has always been the dark-horse a lightweight too? You overrate APC bros.. |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Chigold101(m): 10:55am On Mar 17, 2015 |
slimmy05:Which report? whathappend in 2011? GEJ won SW. PERIOD |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 10:57am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Gbawe2: 10:57am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Scatterboss: Oga mi, I dey laff. There is so much we cannot say here. Do people know how many desperados Osoba coerced, even when they had nothing against Amosun originally, to fight the Ogun State Governor? How many know that Osoba promised all these guys the single guber SDP ticket? How many know Osoba extorted as much as N30 million each from these guys to 'guarantee' them the SP guber ticket? How do people think all these guys are feeling today knowing Osaba 'punked' them? 'Pound of flesh' things. I just dey laff. Uncharacteristically of me, I have even said too much yet I want some things known so that we can refer to it after free and fair elections has given some wannabe upstarts a lesson about how nuanced and complex SW politics is. 2 Likes |
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