Nice scale of our missile systems

saengine:


Like i have always said, i find it funny how people start panicking when they are trapped in a corner .

Listen very carefully. Understand this....

1. When i posted the pics of the white men at the gun turret of Reva III, why did you feel the need to tell us in BIG BOLD letters that Equitorial Guinea bought Reva III? Why? There are plenty other countries who bought it. Who asked you to do that for us?

I'll tell you why. Because it was clear to you and everyone here that those white men at the gun turrets were private combatants. But you were so desperate to hide the fact private combatants are fighting with Nigerian army, that you chose an African country as close as possible to Nigeria that has Reva III. In the sad attempt to remove any link between those Reva III and Nigeria.


2. You later found out that Nigeria does infact have Reva III. This is where you seriously panicked. Let me show you the mistakes you made.....

You now claim that those men, in Nigerian Reva III's, are indeed private military contractors. But you deny they are South African. Here is your critical mistake......you forgot that your very own president said all private contractors are simply providing training on NEW EQUIPMENT on the front line because there wasn't enough time. You have agreed with your president on this point.


So those men in the picture must come from the same country in which Reva III is produced, which is South Africa.

And i know your next step, you will say those men can come from any other country which also operates Reva III. So tell us, which country are they from?

-UAE
-Somalia
-Yemen
-Equatorial Guinea
-South Sudan
-Nigeria

Or South Africa?

Long story with no sense in it.

The Equatorial Guinea Vs Maiduguri location/street REVA MRAP story came backstage from an online source and was circulated in Nigeria.

You cannot blame anybody for anything, war reports are hard to confirm unless you are a top military commander directly reporting from the field. I owe nobody any fvcking apology, Nigerian army never gave public information on it's versions of REVA MRAPs, we are the ones working so hard to fish out Nigerian weapons and identify their specifications from half complete photos, how is that easy? Can you do better?

Yourself can you tell us the difference between REVA Mk III and MK V ? Tell us now !

War reports gets cleared better after days have passed. BBC said 2,000 people died in Baga, a whole BBC relied on a Facebook source because Nigerian military did not comment in the matter for many days before pegging Baga casualty at 150 dead.

Have you written letter to BBC about their 2,000 casualty story and ask BBC editor in chief to keel down and bow to one gay Southie named Saengine?

You must be hurting badly by now, because the only confirmed South African ex-soldier in Nigeria is a casual labor mechanic who found a better life in Nigeria after South Africa wasted his time and career, we save your unemployed people from financial mess
.

Patchesagain:


the average Nigerian soldier uses a weapon that went into service in 1948

That is all.

Nope, OBJ-006 rifle came into service about year 2006 and that's what the average Nigerian soldier uses
.

agaugust:

Long story with no sense in it.
The Equatorial Guinea Vs Maiduguri location/street REVA MRAP story came backstage from an online source and was circulated in Nigeria.
You cannot blame anybody for anything, war reports are hard to confirm unless you are a top military commander directly reporting from the field. I owe nobody any fvcking apology, Nigerian army never gave public information on it's versions of REVA MRAPs, we are the ones working so hard to fish out Nigerian weapons and identify their specifications from half complete photos, how is that easy? Can you do better?
Yourself can you tell us the difference between REVA Mk III and MK V ? Tell us now !
War reports gets cleared better after days have passed. BBC said 2,000 people died in Baga, a whole BBC relied on a Facebook source because Nigerian military did not comment in the matter for many days before pegging Baga casualty at 150 dead.
Have you written letter to BBC about their 2,000 casualty story and ask BBC editor in chief to keel down and bow to one gay Southie named Saengine?
You must be hurting badly by now, because the only confirmed South African ex-soldier in Nigeria is a casual labor mechanic who found a better life in Nigeria after South Africa wasted his time and career, we save your unemployed people from financial mess
.

Bwahahaha - so in short (now that you've been exposed), you're crying because youve been screaming long and hard and contradicting yourself.

Now you confirm that you can't be taken seriously because you scream long and hard based on incomplete stories and photos.

What a sad little person.

Patchesagain:


With only 1000 ordered and paid for, in an army of 150 000 it is then not standard

Standard max range: 350 meters

Standard max range of OBJ006 rifle is classified so you DON'T know it
.

jln115:


"SANDF infantry man has NEVER used his R4 rifle in any combat since he was recruited"
Uhm.... have you forgotten CAR,DRC,SUDAN ect ect

How many SANDF men fired R4 rifle in C.A.R Bangui? You had about 300 men and the special forces refused to fire a single shot, they were the fastest to escape to the airport while your confused Paratroops ran from behind sticking out their tongues like water lapping dogs escaping from Seleka Bush hunters
.

agaugust:


How many SANDF men fired R4 rifle in C.A.R Bangui? You had about 300 men and the special forces refused to fire a single shot, they were the fastest to escape to the airport while your confused Paratroops ran from behind sticking out their tongues like water lapping dogs escaping from Seleka Bush hunters
.

"You had about 300 men and the special forces refused to fire a single shot, they were the fastest to escape to the airport while your confused Paratroops ran from behind sticking out their tongues like water lapping dogs escaping from Seleka Bush hunters "

Believing your own lies wont make them true.

The SANDF has more than a thousand troops in the DRC alone and have seen combat quite a few time, the SUDAN contingent has had its fair share of action too.

DieVluit:


Bwahahaha - so in short (now that you've been exposed), you're crying because youve been screaming long and hard and contradicting yourself.

Now you confirm that you can't be taken seriously because you scream long and hard based on incomplete stories and photos.

What a sad little person.

You need to first close down the offices of BBC, VOA, AFP, REUTERS, News24, CNN, Al Jazeera, New York Times newspapers and all other war media that have ever published an incomplete or inaccurate war situation report that was later found inaccurate, then I can also be blamed.

Until you achieve that, I owe nobody any apology. Get that straight into your thick skullz
.

jln115:

Dont think it will be a problem besides there are lots of countries operating more than one type of apc, South Africa alone operates the MAMBA Casspir and Ratel, and it would be much cheaper to just convert our current Ratel than to buy all new APC/IFVs.

Mamba and Casspir are classified as APCs in the SANDF. Though they don't serve the same role.

I'd rather prefer acquiring the RG41 and Mbombe IFVs than to convert our Ratels.

Henry120:


You are illiterate!

Who said anything about manufacturing. I'm referring to actual quantities.

Not, close to SA production capabilities provided PMP.

Who boasts about rifle ammunition? Who does that? Only Nigerians.

stillchris:


still south africa.

or was koevet Nigerian? papa ajasco.

Not South West Africa not South Africa.

http://news.yahoo.com/foreigners-train-nigerian-troops-final-onslaught-hits-boko-150912277.html

[b]
LONDON (Reuters) - Foreign private security personnel from South Africa, Russia and South Korea are on the ground in northeast Nigeria to train Nigerian troops and are not engaged in frontline combat against Boko Haram, the government said on Tuesday.

According to security and diplomatic sources, Nigeria has brought in hundreds of mercenaries to give its offensive against the Islamist militant group a shot in the arm ahead of the March 28 presidential elections.

But government spokesman Mike Omeri said foreigners on the ground were only engaged in training Nigerian troops.

"There are trainers on the ground to assist in the handling of equipment," Omeri told Reuters on the sidelines of a news conference in London. "They simulate, they teach. These are the things they do."

Asked if they were directly involved in fighting, he said: "I am not aware of that."

Africa's most populous nation and top energy producer has been plagued by the Boko Haram insurgency since 2009, when insurgents intensified efforts to establish an Islamic caliphate in the northeastern Borno state.

However, this year Nigeria and its neighbors have launched a series of offensives to recapture territory, turning the tide against Boko Haram in the run-up to the hotly contested presidential poll.

Omeri would not confirm how many foreigners were involved but said they had come from the same countries that had provided military equipment. He cited South Africa, Russia and South Korea.

"Acquisition of recruitment and military hardware is done through a number of processes. There are government-to-government exchanges and there are those who also come through contractors," he said.

The contractors' stay in Nigeria would end when local troops had become proficient at handling the equipment, he added.

"This is training on site and maybe this is why the people on the ground have been described as mercenaries."

He declined to predict how long it would take for the military to regain full control.

"We have started the final onslaught," he said. "This is the road to the finish and we are on it already."

(Reporting by Karin Strohecker; Editing by Giles Elgood)[/b]

agaugust:


How many SANDF men fired R4 rifle in C.A.R Bangui? You had about 300 men and the special forces refused to fire a single shot, they were the fastest to escape to the airport while your confused Paratroops ran from behind sticking out their tongues like water lapping dogs escaping from Seleka Bush hunters
.

R4 has been fired in Angola, Namibia, Lesotho, DRC, Burundi, CAR, etc.

jln115:

"You had about 300 men and the special forces refused to fire a single shot, they were the fastest to escape to the airport while your confused Paratroops ran from behind sticking out their tongues like water lapping dogs escaping from Seleka Bush hunters "

Believing your own lies wont make them true.

The SANDF has more than a thousand troops in the DRC alone and have seen combat quite a few time, the SUDAN contingent has had its fair share of action too.

How many troops does SANDF have in Congo DRC, and how many are combatants among them, or your vehicle drivers, mechanics, cooks, nurses, and army female prostitutes also fight in battle firing rifles?

Out of the 80,000 soldiers in SANDF armed forces combined, less than 900 have fired R4 rifle in battle since the day they were born by their mothers.

You have an internet based virtual army called SANDF, bunch of rookies with ZERO war experience
.

Henry120:


Good, I don't know what the rest of the irrelevant posts are there for.

South Africans who committed such acts weren't part of the SADF, but police units like Koevoet.

agaugust:


Standard max range of OBJ006 rifle is classified so you DON'T know it
.

its 350mm. bros i have shot that stuff, its so out dated. nigerian army has experience but they are terribly equipped. its only few who even use the AK74. the standard is AK47 wish is so outdated. chadians where able to gain grounds against boko haram in our territory because of their fire power. those guys use standardised AK74 with complete accessories. army spec ops still use that out dated AKM's and AK47's which is very very bad. I still give thumbs up to the NAF and NN anyday,they stand out. south african army dwarfs Nigerian army anyday.they have superior fire power. Boko Haram dont fight conventional warfare, the use anti-aircraft and anti-tant guns on human beings so you dont send your army after such fools with old rickety AKM's and AK47's... AK74 would have being far more preferable.!!

MikeCZAR:


Not, close to SA production capabilities provided PMP.

Who boasts about rifle ammunition? Who does that? Only Nigerians.

You still don't get it.

rka1:
http://news.yahoo.com/foreigners-train-nigerian-troops-final-onslaught-hits-boko-150912277.html

[b]
LONDON (Reuters) - Foreign private security personnel from South Africa, Russia and South Korea are on the ground in northeast Nigeria to train Nigerian troops and are not engaged in frontline combat against Boko Haram, the government said on Tuesday.

According to security and diplomatic sources, Nigeria has brought in hundreds of mercenaries to give its offensive against the Islamist militant group a shot in the arm ahead of the March 28 presidential elections.

But government spokesman Mike Omeri said foreigners on the ground were only engaged in training Nigerian troops.

"There are trainers on the ground to assist in the handling of equipment," Omeri told Reuters on the sidelines of a news conference in London. "They simulate, they teach. These are the things they do."

Asked if they were directly involved in fighting, he said: "I am not aware of that."

Africa's most populous nation and top energy producer has been plagued by the Boko Haram insurgency since 2009, when insurgents intensified efforts to establish an Islamic caliphate in the northeastern Borno state.

However, this year Nigeria and its neighbors have launched a series of offensives to recapture territory, turning the tide against Boko Haram in the run-up to the hotly contested presidential poll.

Omeri would not confirm how many foreigners were involved but said they had come from the same countries that had provided military equipment. He cited South Africa, Russia and South Korea.

"Acquisition of recruitment and military hardware is done through a number of processes. There are government-to-government exchanges and there are those who also come through contractors," he said.

The contractors' stay in Nigeria would end when local troops had become proficient at handling the equipment, he added.

"This is training on site and maybe this is why the people on the ground have been described as mercenaries."

He declined to predict how long it would take for the military to regain full control.

"We have started the final onslaught," he said. "This is the road to the finish and we are on it already."

(Reporting by Karin Strohecker; Editing by Giles Elgood)[/b]

The last people we should listen to are Nigerian government personnel. We know the truth and we can never be deviated from it.

The South African mercenaries


http://www.snipview.com/q/South_African_mercenaries

Henry120:

R4 a copy of a copy = obsolete

R5 = you don't have it in service, neither can the SANDF afford EO TECH scope.

3. CR-21 = failed concept, you also don't have it.

4. Truvelo Raptor = now, you're day dreaming.

Mechanised and armour units use the shorter R5 rifle since the 80s.

The SANDF has the upgraded DMR in service.

Patchesagain:


Lots of insults

No facts

Insults , where did I insult you?

Didn't the Afrikanner government negotiate with terrorists?

Isn't your minister fat?

Didn't she describe the SANDF as lacking in skill, motivation and ethos?

Aren't there 1 in 5 South-Africans living with HIV?

Point out where I insulted you?

agaugust:


[s]Long story with no sense in it.

The Equatorial Guinea Vs Maiduguri location/street REVA MRAP story came backstage from an online source and was circulated in Nigeria.

You cannot blame anybody for anything, war reports are hard to confirm unless you are a top military commander directly reporting from the field. I owe nobody any fvcking apology, Nigerian army never gave public information on it's versions of REVA MRAPs, we are the ones working so hard to fish out Nigerian weapons and identify their specifications from half complete photos, how is that easy? Can you do better?

Yourself can you tell us the difference between REVA Mk III and MK V ? Tell us now !

War reports gets cleared better after days have passed. BBC said 2,000 people died in Baga, a whole BBC relied on a Facebook source because Nigerian military did not comment in the matter for many days before pegging Baga casualty at 150 dead.

Have you written letter to BBC about their 2,000 casualty story and ask BBC editor in chief to keel down and bow to one gay Southie named Saengine?

You must be hurting badly by now, because the only confirmed South African ex-soldier in Nigeria is a casual labor mechanic who found a better life in Nigeria after South Africa wasted his time and career, we save your unemployed people from financial mess[/s]
.

Moral of the story. Next time don't try be a clever f*ck here. If people post pics that YOU dont know their source, you ask. Dont try say those pics dont belong to this place or this place....when others know.

In all this rubbish post of yours you think i didnt notice you ignored my question? Which country do those white men come from, since they are operating South African equipment?

Day 10....which website did you find those missile launch screengrabs from? You think i forgot?

I will demolish you each and every time.

jln115:

Dont think its a DMR(could be) the handguard and stock look different to the DMR, but it is R4 based.
secondly the R5 is in service with our special forces, the R5 is a R4 with a shorter barrel or basically a R4 carbine.
and we destroyed Seleka btw 1000+dead vs 15dead and they surrenderd.
http://www.army.mil.za/equipment/weaponsystems/infantry/R4_R5%20Assault_Rifles.htm
Pic: Special Forces operative with an R5

No, his a "scout". Though they refer to them selves as operators.

SA intelligence corps, they field the Cytoon.

BOTH BLACK AND WHITE SOUTH AFRICAN MERCENARIES ARE FACING ARREST ON THEIR WAY BACK HOME.

[b] JOHANNESBURG ( AA) – South African
mercenaries fighting the Boko Haram militant
group in Nigeria could face arrest when they
return home, experts have warned.
“What they are doing is illegal under South
African law,” Jakkie Cilliers, executive director of
the Institute for Security Studies, told The
Anadolu Agency on Friday.
He said South Africa’s Foreign Military
Assistance Act prohibited South African citizens
from engaging in combat activities abroad.
“The reason why Nigeria employed these South
Africans is because they were successful in
fighting in Angola against UNITA and in Sierra
Leone against the RUF,” he said in reference to
two African rebel groups.
Cilliers said that most of the mercenaries had
previously served in the South African Defense
Force during the apartheid era.
“There are both black and white mercenaries,” he
said when asked by AA about the mercenaries’
backgrounds.
The media has reported that hundreds of
mercenaries from South Africa and other
countries were fighting alongside Nigerian forces
against Boko Haram militants.
The reports, some of which quoted senior
regional officials in West Africa, claimed that the
mercenaries – with the use of attack helicopters
and armored personnel carriers – were currently
fighting to retake towns and villages captured by
the militant group.
Recent media reports have also quoted South
African Defense Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-
Nqakula as saying that South Africans helping
the Nigerian army against Boko Haram should
we arrested upon their return home.

-Denial-

Asked if he thought that the mercenaries’
activities could put South Africans at risk of
attacks by militant groups, Cilliers said, “I don’t
think so.”
“The government has strongly condemned them;
they are there on their own,” he said.
Meanwhile, the South African National Defense
Force (SANDF) reiterated on Friday that it did
not have any troops in West Africa.
“The South African government has not sent
anybody to Nigeria. There are no South African
troops anywhere in West Africa,” SANDF Head of
Communications Siphiwe Dlamni told AA.
“These people [mercenaries] are not our
responsibility. We deal with uniformed people in
the SANDF,” he said.
Dlamni added that they would be prosecuted if
they were found to have broken any South
African laws.
In the past, former South African soldiers who
had served under the country’s former apartheid
regime have been accused of working as
mercenaries in different parts of the world.
Earlier Friday, the Nigerian authorities denied
reports that mercenaries were helping army
troops in their fight against Boko Haram.
© 2015, Hassan Isilow. All rights reserved. – The
views expressed here are purely those of the
author and not necessarily those of the
publishers. – Newstime Africa content cannot be
reproduced in any form – electronic or print –
without prior consent of the Publishers.
Copyright infringement will be pursued and
perpetrators prosecuted.[/b]


http://www.newstimeafrica.com/archives/38109

MikeCZAR:
No, his a "scout". Though they refer to them selves as operators.

SA intelligence corps, they field the Cytoon.

Jap, someone already corrected me think it was @Patches, but thanks.

agaugust:


You need to first close down the offices of BBC, VOA, AFP, REUTERS, News24, CNN, Al Jazeera, New York Times newspapers and all other war media that have ever published an incomplete or inaccurate war situation report that was later found inaccurate, then I can also be blamed.

Until you achieve that, I owe nobody any apology. Get that straight into your thick skullz
.

How does this piece of comical defiance change the fact that you personally confirmed that the Reva IIIs in the picture are NOT Nigeian?

How does it change the fact that they are in Maiguduri?

The fact that your president says foreign contractors are training your people on new equipment is changed how.

South Africa's synonimity with the MRAP is changed by your comical piece of defiance...how?

ukemeramat:


its 350mm. bros i have shot that stuff, its so out dated. nigerian army has experience but they are terribly equipped. its only few who even use the AK74. the standard is AK47 wish is so outdated. chadians where able to gain grounds against boko haram in our territory because of their fire power. those guys use standardised AK74 with complete accessories. army spec ops still use that out dated AKM's and AK47's which is very very bad. I still give thumbs up to the NAF and NN anyday,they stand out. south african army dwarfs Nigerian army anyday.they have superior fire power. Boko Haram dont fight conventional warfare, the use anti-aircraft and anti-tant guns on human beings so you dont send your army after such fools with old rickety AKM's and AK47's... AK74 would have being far more preferable.!!

Abeg find one corner siddon! Your level of ignorance no get substitute.

agaugust:


How many troops does SANDF have in Congo DRC, and how many are combatants among them, or your vehicle drivers, mechanics, cooks, nurses, and army female prostitutes also fight in battle firing rifles?

Out of the 80,000 soldiers in SANDF armed forces combined, less than 900 have fired R4 rifle in battle since the day they were born by their mothers.

You have an internet based virtual army called SANDF, bunch of rookies with ZERO war experience
.

What ever dude, ill rather be at peace than at war, but hey if you enjoy it so much and want to boast about it, who iam i to tell you otherwise.

agaugust:


How many troops does SANDF have in Congo DRC, and how many are combatants among them, or your vehicle drivers, mechanics, cooks, nurses, and army female prostitutes also fight in battle firing rifles?

Out of the 80,000 soldiers in SANDF armed forces combined, less than 900 have fired R4 rifle in battle since the day they were born by their mothers.

You have an internet based virtual army called SANDF, bunch of rookies with ZERO war experience
.

Every soldier receive basic infantry training from movement to marksmanship.

Henry120:


You still don't get it.

SUPERIOR!

Superior production capabilities so your point is irrelevant.

saengine:


Moral of the story. Next time don't try be a clever f*ck here. If people post pics that YOU dont know their source, you ask. Dont try say those pics dont belong to this place or this place....when others know.

In all this rubbish post of yours you think i didnt notice you ignored my question? Which country do those white men come from, since they are operating South African equipment?

Day 10....which website did you find those missile launch screengrabs from? You think i forgot?

I will demolish you each and every time.

You demolish nothing

I don't owe you answer of where I got missile screenshots from, am I your servant to obey your command? I got images, I posted, anyone who is angry can go jump into river Zambezi.

The mercenaries in the Maiduguri photos drive a South African MRAP same way Americans, Yemenis, Nigerians, etc all drive South African MRAPs.

Until you prove those white men's true nationalities, they are NOT South Africans.....and who cares anyway, NO MERCENARY is doing combat in Nigeria's war.

However, I admit that Nigeria uses the whiteheads of South Africa for casual labour duties, live with that even if it hurts whatever remains of your shattered national pride
.

Henry120:


Insults , where did I insult you?

Didn't the Afrikanner government negotiate with terrorists?

Isn't your minister fat?

Didn't she describe the SANDF as lacking in skill, motivation and ethos?

Aren't there 1 in 5 South-Africans living with HIV?

Point out where I insulted you?

Oga Henry120...u nailed it...
Well I don't want to bash anybody again...

Let every one be on der own news....