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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:32am On Mar 18, 2015
rka1:


No they are not. No SANDF Hollywood army there. This is real life.

Real life sources have confirmed

Over 100 south africans operating at the moment
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 10:34am On Mar 18, 2015
rka1:


They can't even look after SANDF trucks. Super power my behind. grin

We can and do look after trucks.

The Cubans provide a cheaper and more effective solution than private companies who did it in the past
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:48am On Mar 18, 2015
ukemeramat:

please channel your frustration to the govt not me...thanks

but bro we b we we nw...why u dey open our yansh 4 pple make dem laugh our unclad fah....wats ur tribe make i code some message for u
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 10:50am On Mar 18, 2015
NaijaPikinGidi:


Clearly you were frustrated by Government out of the Niger Delta creeks. Now you come here venting the same frustration. This is Page 1935 ... you need to go through from Page 1 to educate yourself and become free from your chronic ignorance.

Just one bullet to your knee-cap and your brain go rearrange!!

Commot for road jare!

cool cool cool

wagba yi....mo dey see how he go turn for them...
there is a difference btw a war movie and real life battle

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 11:03am On Mar 18, 2015
REALLY PHOTOS FOUGHT BY SADF AGAINST CUBANS IN ANGOLA

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Thiza: 11:06am On Mar 18, 2015
REALLY ARMIES FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER NOT A RAG TAG ARMY WHICH IS RESCUED BY NEIGHBOURS FIGHTING A RAG TAG BAND OF TERRORISTS

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 11:06am On Mar 18, 2015
These south african rats are so stup1d it makes me wonder sometimes.

they insult us for hiring trainers to help with equipments we are not familiar with, while SANDF had to bring in cuban mercs to help them fix trucks they've had for years

their fat minister was right. there is shortage of skilled personel in SANDF.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 11:07am On Mar 18, 2015
ukemeramat:

take your frustration to the govt...if you really believed in those riffles, why did our same govt smuggled millions of dollars illegally to south africa to procure their arms....

Did Nigeria buy rifle from South Africa? We bought SAMIL transport trucks and MRAP including medical ambulances.

You have no wide knowledge of military stuff beyond your AK-47 rifle and some ancient low tech Niger delta militancy war.

The AK-47 rifle remains the most reliable assault rifle in the world today. Even Algeria the oil rich nation with the biggest defence budget in Africa is still using AK-47 rifle locally manufactured and also using the Chinese version of AK-47.

Nigeria is now fighting war with guided missile armed drones and we are the first in Africa and the only nation in Africa to do that, yet you still still say Nigeria is poorly armed. No country in Africa can match Nigeria's ISTAR capability NOT even Egypt or South Africa, they are 66 years behind us in combat ISTAR equipment technology.

Mister delta fisherman, go mend your canoe and go back fishing after you watch the BBC video in the weblink below :

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-31902503
.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by stillchris: 11:09am On Mar 18, 2015
patches689:


We can and do look after trucks.

The Cubans provide a cheaper and more effective solution than private companies who did it in the past

are you ttrying to say SANDF army engineers are not well trained or too daft to maintain your equipments?

you do realize the cubans you hired are from their army engineers and not private firn.

dull armygrin.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by charlos14: 11:14am On Mar 18, 2015
ukemeramat:

i don't deal with internet touts too. i have been in battle front too with that stuff so i know what am talking about. when i SAY accessories,have u ever heard of maintenance kit, TDI style rail covers,Handguard and top rail RIS,heavy night-vision devices etc ?..... apply let me coach u on weaponry... u have a very bad habit on social media..
Are you confused with the Bir or navy SBS?

I really see handguards and that perky nv scope on that ak47 shocked

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:20am On Mar 18, 2015
asuoka:


but bro we b we we nw...why u dey open our yansh 4 pple make dem laugh our unclad fah....wats ur tribe make i code some message for u

So when people try to be realistic and you don't have worthwhile response, you switching to tribal politics just to satisfy your ego.

Shame
tonguetonguetonguetonguetongue

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:31am On Mar 18, 2015
saengine:
http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/key-denel-dynamics-products-entering-production-for-clients-here-and-abroad-2015-03-13

Three key Denel Dynamics products poised to enter production phase



No fewer than three of the development projects being carried out by local missile, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) and satellite company Denel Dynamics (part of the State-owned Denel group) are coming to an end and being transformed into industrialisation and production programmes for local and foreign customers. They are the A-Darter missile, the Seeker 400 UAV and the Umbani precision guided bomb kit. “We are really proud of our achievements in these programmes,” highlights company CEO Tsepo Monaheng. “Now we are in a position to release critical engineers and other resources to work on new development programmes.”


[b]The A-Darter is an infrared homing air-to-air missile, conceived by Denel Dynamics but jointly developed with Brazil. Development of the missile has now reached completion, and it is expected that the first contract for industrialisation and production of the weapon will be signed later this month or next month. There will be two such contracts, one for each of the two partner countries. The second such contract will be signed later this year. There will be production lines in both countries. “We will start to establish the production line here in April,” he states. “We’ll also be assisting our Brazilian partners to establish a production line there.” Recently, at his farewell function, the outgoing Brazilian Air Force attaché to South Africa highly praised the A-Darter’s performance and Denel Dynamics’s cooperation with his country.


Already, another country is seriously interested in acquiring the A-Darter. If a contract is signed, the missiles would be assembled on the South African production line. “The potential for more customers is now considerable, because we now have a product, not just a programme,” points out Denel Dynamics deputy CEO Denise Wilson. “We’ll be ramping up to produce five A-Darters a month, on the South African production line. We’ll source most components from local industry and so create local jobs.”[/b]

The third and final development guided test series was recently completed. This proved the performance of the missile. “It has exceeded expectations!” she reports. “Now we’re finishing the qualification of the missile. The final qualification flight tests are planned for later this year. “The missile will fly whatever mission is specified by the client. We now have the latest state-of-the-art processors on the missile.”

The Seeker 400 is actually more advanced than the A-Darter, because it is already in production for its launch customer, an overseas client. “The Seeker 400 has just been through a range of performance evaluation tests, including range and altitude and it performed very well against specifications,” notes Wilson.


“We have one customer for the Seeker 400 now, but we’re talking to four other potential customers,” points out Monaheng. “One of these witnessed the recent successful demonstration of the Seeker 400.” In addition to the Seeker 400, a large tactical UAV (with the potential to be armed), the company also offers the Seeker 200 tactical UAV and the Hungwe small UAV. Once, the South African Air Force was a leader in UAV operations, but it has not operated any UAVs for many years now. “We’re hoping that UAVs are going to be re-introduced into the air force later this year,” he says.

As these projects become production programmes, new development projects are taking their place. A major new project is the Marlin. This will be a beyond-visual-range radar homing missile, with more than one role. “The Marlin is in the technology demonstration phase. It is being funded by the Department of Defence. “We have the funding for the technology demonstration,” says Wilson. “It is intended for air-to-air, ground-to-air and naval surface-to-air roles. Its rocket motor has already been tested. “Certain preliminary tests of the airframe will take place during this year.” Although intended to fulfill the requirements of the South African National Defence Force, it has already attracted overseas interest.

“It’s a really interesting technology programme,” she cites. “It’s giving the opportunity for young engineers to grow with the programme. “It’s delivering a new generation of engineers. “Ideally, you want people to be with this programme for the next 15 to 20 years,” adds Monaheng.




This article is dedicated to HENRY120 smiley smiley. Remember what I told you just a few days ago, I wonder what your excuse will be when these products start going onto the production line to feed the SANDF.

Thank you for dedicating this article to me.

The Problem is, we are First.

With 10 CH-3A UCAVs in service, we have not only carried out Africa's and the developing world's PGA from a UCAV, we also have Africa's largest Fleet.


Deal with it.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:40am On Mar 18, 2015
patches689:


Freedom fighters are not terrorists

The weight of a person is irrelevant unless you are making insults

You have taken her quote out of context

Infection rate in the SANDF is below 20% (citations have been provided many times)

A lack of factual substance makes it insults. Act your age.


- Tell that to Margaret tharcter, Ronald Regan, the U.S senate and the Afrikanner government.

- She is Fat, this is a fact.

- no I didn't, to push home this point, the SANDF had to hire mechanics from Cuba, plus you have an insufficient number of Gripen pilots for 26 planes after 15 years. She was spot on.

- 1 in 5 South-Africans is a filthy HIV carrier.

These are facts.


Deal with them!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:40am On Mar 18, 2015
DictatorZAR:


So when people try to be realistic and you don't have worthwhile response, you switching to tribal politics just to satisfy your ego.

Shame
tonguetonguetonguetonguetongue


if i come against you...i swear to God ull cry for a whole week..pls i wasn't referring to you...lets just act like we didn't see each other

thank you

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 11:42am On Mar 18, 2015
Henry120:

Thank you for dedicating this article to me.
The Problem is, we are First.
With 10 CH-3A UCAVs in service, we have not only carried out Africa's and the developing world's PGA from a UCAV, we also have Africa's largest Fleet.
Deal with it.

1. Makes claim that South Africa will be getting no such equipment, because SANDF is broke

2. saengine corrects him. Asks him what he'll say when production starts.

3. He ignores the fact that proof has been brought to him, that in fact we are getting such equipment.
He rather goes on a random tangent about who is first. Assuming that people would somehow forget his original claim
made just a day or so ago.

4. You think the SANDF can't go onto the market to buy whatever equipment it wants like Nigeria?
It is SANDF and South African policy to purchase as much strategic equipment from South Africa as possible.
As soon as Seeker 400 was qualified, it was stated at IDEX 2015 that SA Air Force will get such equipment.

5. So go crawl back into your uninformed hole, and deal with it.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 11:52am On Mar 18, 2015
Henry120:


Thank you for dedicating this article to me.

The Problem is, we are First.

With 10 CH-3A UCAVs in service, we have not only carried out Africa's and the developing world's PGA from a UCAV, we also have Africa's largest Fleet.


Deal with it.
"Africa's largest Fleet."
Also one of the most outdated ones, the only modern ships in the NN are the 2 P18Ns.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 11:57am On Mar 18, 2015
overhypedsteve:
ok what you are now saying is that only south africa have a military academy in africa?
A battle school isn't an academy.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:08pm On Mar 18, 2015
saengine:
http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/key-denel-dynamics-products-entering-production-for-clients-here-and-abroad-2015-03-13

Three key Denel Dynamics products poised to enter production phase



No fewer than three of the development projects being carried out by local missile, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) and satellite company Denel Dynamics (part of the State-owned Denel group) are coming to an end and being transformed into industrialisation and production programmes for local and foreign customers. They are the A-Darter missile, the Seeker 400 UAV and the Umbani precision guided bomb kit. “We are really proud of our achievements in these programmes,” highlights company CEO Tsepo Monaheng. “Now we are in a position to release critical engineers and other resources to work on new development programmes.”


[b]The A-Darter is an infrared homing air-to-air missile, conceived by Denel Dynamics but jointly developed with Brazil. Development of the missile has now reached completion, and it is expected that the first contract for industrialisation and production of the weapon will be signed later this month or next month. There will be two such contracts, one for each of the two partner countries. The second such contract will be signed later this year. There will be production lines in both countries. “We will start to establish the production line here in April,” he states. “We’ll also be assisting our Brazilian partners to establish a production line there.” Recently, at his farewell function, the outgoing Brazilian Air Force attaché to South Africa highly praised the A-Darter’s performance and Denel Dynamics’s cooperation with his country.


Already, another country is seriously interested in acquiring the A-Darter. If a contract is signed, the missiles would be assembled on the South African production line. “The potential for more customers is now considerable, because we now have a product, not just a programme,” points out Denel Dynamics deputy CEO Denise Wilson. “We’ll be ramping up to produce five A-Darters a month, on the South African production line. We’ll source most components from local industry and so create local jobs.”[/b]

The third and final development guided test series was recently completed. This proved the performance of the missile. “It has exceeded expectations!” she reports. “Now we’re finishing the qualification of the missile. The final qualification flight tests are planned for later this year. “The missile will fly whatever mission is specified by the client. We now have the latest state-of-the-art processors on the missile.”

The Seeker 400 is actually more advanced than the A-Darter, because it is already in production for its launch customer, an overseas client. “The Seeker 400 has just been through a range of performance evaluation tests, including range and altitude and it performed very well against specifications,” notes Wilson.


“We have one customer for the Seeker 400 now, but we’re talking to four other potential customers,” points out Monaheng. “One of these witnessed the recent successful demonstration of the Seeker 400.” In addition to the Seeker 400, a large tactical UAV (with the potential to be armed), the company also offers the Seeker 200 tactical UAV and the Hungwe small UAV. Once, the South African Air Force was a leader in UAV operations, but it has not operated any UAVs for many years now. “We’re hoping that UAVs are going to be re-introduced into the air force later this year,” he says.

As these projects become production programmes, new development projects are taking their place. A major new project is the Marlin. This will be a beyond-visual-range radar homing missile, with more than one role. “The Marlin is in the technology demonstration phase. It is being funded by the Department of Defence. “We have the funding for the technology demonstration,” says Wilson. “It is intended for air-to-air, ground-to-air and naval surface-to-air roles. Its rocket motor has already been tested. “Certain preliminary tests of the airframe will take place during this year.” Although intended to fulfill the requirements of the South African National Defence Force, it has already attracted overseas interest.

“It’s a really interesting technology programme,” she cites. “It’s giving the opportunity for young engineers to grow with the programme. “It’s delivering a new generation of engineers. “Ideally, you want people to be with this programme for the next 15 to 20 years,” adds Monaheng.




This article is dedicated to HENRY120 smiley smiley. Remember what I told you just a few days ago, I wonder what your excuse will be when these products start going onto the production line to feed the SANDF.

Dreams of others!

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 12:13pm On Mar 18, 2015
Henry120:


Thank you for dedicating this article to me.

The Problem is, we are First.

With 10 CH-3A UCAVs in service, we have not only carried out Africa's and the developing world's PGA from a UCAV, we also have Africa's largest Fleet.


Deal with it.
ROTF(L). grin grin grin grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 12:26pm On Mar 18, 2015
patches689:


Real life sources have confirmed

Over 100 south africans operating at the moment

Yes, contractors for newly delivered equipment from Russia, South Africa, Ukraine, Belarus etc. to train on the job and as advisers, not fighters. Doesn't mean they can't be armed for self defence.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 12:29pm On Mar 18, 2015
rka1:

Yes, contractors for newly delivered equipment from Russia, South Africa, Ukraine, Belarus etc. to train on the job and as advisers, not fighters. Doesn't mean they can't be armed for self defence.


You know this because Goodluck Ebele Jonathan said so.

Right. Next.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 12:34pm On Mar 18, 2015
DieVluit:



You know this because Goodluck Ebele Jonathan said so.

Right. Next.

No, the COAS and others on the ground who understand what is happening and not sensationalists.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 12:37pm On Mar 18, 2015
Henry120:


Thank you for dedicating this article to me.

The Problem is, we are First.

With 10 CH-3A UCAVs in service, we have not only carried out Africa's and the developing world's PGA from a UCAV, we also have Africa's largest Fleet.


Deal with it.

All of those operated by mercs, while skills transfers will take place in 2020
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:39pm On Mar 18, 2015
agaugust:


Did Nigeria buy rifle from South Africa? We bought SAMIL transport trucks and MRAP including medical ambulances.

You have no wide knowledge of military stuff beyond your AK-47 rifle and some ancient low tech Niger delta militancy war.

The AK-47 rifle remains the most reliable assault rifle in the world today. Even Algeria the oil rich nation with the biggest defence budget in Africa is still using AK-47 rifle locally manufactured and also using the Chinese version of AK-47.

Nigeria is now fighting war with guided missile armed drones and we are the first in Africa and the only nation in Africa to do that, yet you still still say Nigeria is poorly armed. No country in Africa can match Nigeria's ISTAR capability NOT even Egypt or South Africa, they are 66 years behind us in combat ISTAR equipment technology.

Mister delta fisherman, go mend your canoe and go back fishing after you watch the BBC video in the weblink below :

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-31902503
.


AK-47 is a trash weapon, its only redeeming quality is that it is cheap

Nigeria has no missile armed drones

Gripen can operate in the ISTAR role

And since we are comparing, Nigeria has no subs, no modern missile armed warships, no modern aircraft, no PGM's, no fast recon assets, no dedicated attack helo's, no data-link, no bluefor trackers, no advanced communication equipment, no mobile radar systems, no feild camp systems, no feild bakery systems, no mobile feild hospital systems, no adequate surveillance equipment, no advanced training facilities or equipment, no ability to air-drop supplies, no air-deployable assets or weapons systems, no standardized equipment (webbing, unfirorms, chest-rigs)

Stop talking out your arse

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by DieVluit: 12:40pm On Mar 18, 2015
rka1:

No, the COAS and others on the ground who understand what is happening and not sensationalists.

First - They "understand" what is happening because Goodluck Ebele Jonathan said so.

Second - you are not "on the ground".

Third - reports from officials "on the ground" confirm that the South Africans are fighting; and that their role has been significant. Just ask and we will give you the links....again.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:42pm On Mar 18, 2015
stillchris:


are you ttrying to say SANDF army engineers are not well trained or too daft to maintain your equipments?

you do realize the cubans you hired are from their army engineers and not private firn.

dull armygrin.

How are you not understanding this?

SANDF does light maintenance on equipment, and some heavy maintenance on small number of equipment, heavy maintenance on large numbers of equipment is outsourced to private companies - this is cheaper than keeping large numbers of specialist personnel on the SANDF pay-roll

The deal with the Cubans is an even cheaper option as they can perform the same repairs as private companies for less and at the same time assist with the training

Read what I posted again, SANDF is not doing anything different, it is simply choosing the cheaper alternative
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:43pm On Mar 18, 2015
Henry120:


Thank you for dedicating this article to me.

The Problem is, we are First.

With 10 CH-3A UCAVs in service, we have not only carried out Africa's and the developing world's PGA from a UCAV, we also have Africa's largest Fleet.


Deal with it.

1. You dont have any CH-3A UCAVs
2. You have not performed any deployments of PGM's from drones or any other aerial asset

Stop making things up

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 12:46pm On Mar 18, 2015
Patchesagain:


AK-47 is a trash weapon, its only redeeming quality is that it is cheap

Nigeria has no missile armed drones

Gripen can operate in the ISTAR role

And since we are comparing, Nigeria has no subs, no modern missile armed warships, no modern aircraft, no PGM's, no fast recon assets, no dedicated attack helo's, no data-link, no bluefor trackers, no advanced communication equipment, no mobile radar systems, no feild camp systems, no feild bakery systems, no mobile feild hospital systems, no adequate surveillance equipment, no advanced training facilities or equipment, no ability to air-drop supplies, no air-deployable assets or weapons systems, no standardized equipment (webbing, unfirorms, chest-rigs)

Stop talking out your arse

None of the above, you claim, and we are routing BH. NATO had all the above in Afghanistan with over a hundred thousand troops during the surge and didn't touch the Taliban.

What will happen when Nigeria has all the above equipment? cool

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 12:46pm On Mar 18, 2015
Henry120:


- Tell that to Margaret tharcter, Ronald Regan, the U.S senate and the Afrikanner government.

- She is Fat, this is a fact.

- no I didn't, to push home this point, the SANDF had to hire mechanics from Cuba, plus you have an insufficient number of Gripen pilots for 26 planes after 15 years. She was spot on.

- 1 in 5 South-Africans is a filthy HIV carrier.

These are facts.


Deal with them!

1. According to 90% of the South African population - they are freedom fighters

2. How is heir body type relevant to anything at all?

3. Cuban mechanics are replacing the role that private companies used to have in the SANDF. Has nothing to do with anything other than the SANDF improving its fiscal efficiency.

4. We have sufficient pilots to utterly destroy the Nigerian airforce
4a. The Gripen is not fully operational yet.

5. 8.5% of the SANDF are infected with HIV/AIDS
http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2013/03/19/sandf-hivaids-rate-at-8.5-defence-force

Again, lots of petulant insults, no facts.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:01pm On Mar 18, 2015
DictatorZAR:


So when people try to be realistic and you don't have worthwhile response, you switching to tribal politics just to satisfy your ego.

Shame
tonguetonguetonguetonguetongue

Ek smeek jou in die naam van Jesus hoef haal my weer
or

i ngininxuse egameni likaJesu dont ukucaphuna me aphinde

please
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by ukemeramat(m): 1:02pm On Mar 18, 2015
NaijaPikinGidi:


Clearly you were frustrated by Government out of the Niger Delta creeks. Now you come here venting the same frustration. This is Page 1935 ... you need to go through from Page 1 to educate yourself and become free from your chronic ignorance.

Just one bullet to your knee-cap and your brain go rearrange!!

Commot for road jare!

cool cool cool

warri!! warri!! see okpolo oooo!!!! friend let me tell u, put us back in the north east and give us 3weeks and see what happens... we will march boko fire for fire and bring them down even the govt knows this...anyway, this is social media...pikin flex!!

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