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Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by DRANOEL(m): 10:34am On Mar 19, 2015 |
PapaBrowne: the big six local governments in Benue are Gboko, Makurdi, Katsina Ala, Vandeikya, Kwande, Oturkpo; Gboko - Akume's stronghold Makurdi - within Akume's zone, within Ortom's zone ACN won Makurdi by a small margin the last time, now ortom is onboard Katsina Ala - 50 - 50 Vandeikya - Gemade's territory, note that the last election, Vandeikya was split between Gemade's and Hembe's influence. Both took 50/50, now they are both on the same side Kwande - has always voted opposition Oturkpo - David Mark's stronghold, definitely PDP also note that breaking it down to senatorial districts, most of Jonathan's key men are from the same zone (zone c) where Mark & Morro hail from, Zone C is the smallest population wise amongst the 3 zones. For the other zones things have changed, in 2011 you had Ortom and Gemade pulling weight for Jonathan in zones A & B now you have them gone. Jonathan's men in the two zones are at best paper weights especially zone B where Iorchia Ayu a failed politician is being paraded as leader. 1 Like |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by Nobody: 10:47am On Mar 19, 2015 |
PapaBrowne:You seem to forget that senatorial elections holds on the same day as the presidential election. Akume and gemade i believe are both running for Senate. |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by DRANOEL(m): 10:53am On Mar 19, 2015 |
Obiagelli: infact the senatorial elections running on the same day makes it more interesting, Akume is standing against a weak candidate, while Gemade is standing against Suswam (who is even considered a liability to Jonathan and the governorship candidate) |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by Nobody: 10:56am On Mar 19, 2015 |
DRANOEL:It will be a miracle for gej to win benue, a lot has changed since 2011. |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by ahaika23: 11:31am On Mar 19, 2015 |
You forgot to consider the pvc card reader, if you know what I mean. I reserve my case. |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by zendy: 12:03pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
At least everyone agrees that no one will this presidential election with a landslide. I'm more interested in what happens after the election regardless of who wins.It will be a tragedy with no real winners. Whoever wins,the other side is going scream blue murder and post election violence will ensue which will claim lives and property. Nigeria is so badly structured that even if the Pope won the election,he won't be able to save Nigeria so there's nothing to be happy about. The election is all about who is in control and not about the people. APC and PDP are just as bad as each other. The same bunch of thieves except that one group is hiding under an umbrella and the other,under a broom. 1 Like |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by Jesusloveyou: 12:52pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
dabigwalls:if gej appoint or employed pple does it make a diff,because d unemployed and non-appointed pple are more,d angry once are more than d happy one,those who need change are more than those who benefit in dis corrupt govt.i don't even know why buhari is campaigning,and gej know this,that is why pej have be having nightmare about prison.sai buhari. |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by PapaBrowne(m): 1:35pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Obiagelli: Interesting assumptions. Wish you understood the dynamics. If Benue is dissatisfied with GEJ, what you would see is low turnout and not support for GMB. At the core of voting decisions in the middle belt is not so much Boko haram as it is Fulani herdsmen. Benueans are farmers and have been getting the beating from Fulani herdsmen. Voting a Fulani is the last thing on the Benue farmer's mind. Now that's in the rural areas. In the cities its a different ball game. And most of the chatter you get is from the cities. However, majority of votes come from rural areas. Akume, Ortom and Gemade would have an impact, but that's why you see the 25% allocation for Benue. 1 Like |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by Nobody: 2:06pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
PapaBrowne: @Papa Brown,you did a good job with you predictions but you are also killing and making your own predictions insignificant if you are holding your word and understanding as the only superior argument. Predictions and assumptions work a lot using all information available to you at that moment and going forward. For instance you have 4-5 people from Venue & Nasarawa saying your assumptions are flawed. Right there stats beat you by 5:1 but instead of filtering it into your assumption you are arguing it. Same with Kaduna & Lags, Edo. Your assumptions then have too much possibility of being insignificant if you do not filter in even slightly such information available. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by PapaBrowne(m): 2:16pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
BluIvy: I agree with you. The statistics are seperate from my opinions. What I shared that you quoted is my opinion which is seperate from my assumptions which were based on historical data and current realities as well as other permutations. For instance, I can confident express an opinion that Jonathan would score above 95% in Bayelsa, Akwa Ibom and Cross River, but they were placed statistically at 85% for GEJ. All in all, I agree with you. I ought to assess and probably accept the opinions about Benue since they posters appear to be on ground. However, the practical realities don't point in that direction. |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by Nobody: 2:36pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
PapaBrowne: Yes, since all of you are basing your assumptions on your opinions not facts it is right to use the numbers of opinions in support of yours or against yours. That will present an average. Use the participaters on this thread as your own available pool of samples. But great thread! |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by Mustay(m): 2:36pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
What voids all these permutations and combinations is one thing - % of total registered voters who come out to vote on election day. Seeing this at a 100% in this topic makes it a no-brainer! A 100% PVC collection can never translate to everyone turning out. We only know today, no one knows tomorrow - even death (constant k) and other natural cum psychological/logistical events will make 100% impossible. |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by henryangelo: 3:19pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
sincerenigerian: The igbos you think they are supporting buhari is by mere mouth not from the mind,those igbos are paid to campaign but will definitely go their way on the election day Trust igbos, they go collect your money and do their mind |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by Nobody: 3:20pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
PapaBrowne:Are you saying on March 28, the people of Akume and Gemade's zone will tomb print Apc for senatorial and pdp for presidential on the same spot? That will be very interesting. |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by ahaika23: 3:26pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Did you put into consideration the 40% pvc accreditation failure in kano and the 100% recorded in Delta? |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by henryangelo: 3:29pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
warriiboguy: Are you sure? Can you bet your life on it?one APC member on NL have already bet his life on the bases that if Buhari loses he will commit suicide ,will you still go by that? 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by IVORY2009(m): 3:35pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
BluIvy: you are a real researcher, the money spent on your education was not wasted! 1 Like |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by DRANOEL(m): 3:58pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
PapaBrowne: I think it is you who has misunderstood the dynamics, it is actually the rural farmers that have formed the core of opposition against Goodluck/Suswam, to them there's the mentality that Buhari as a former military man is more kitted to tackle the security challenges facing them. It is in the rural areas that there's the feeling of abandonment by Suswam/Jonathan and it is this feeling that has given birth to resentment. Go to Benue, Suswam is called 'or gyo' (the pig man), suswine etc in the rural areas. When you talk of grass roots politicians in Benue you talk of Akume & Ortom. In 2011, Akume single handedly created a viable opposition in Benue, today he has Gemade & Ortom with him. In the cities, the PDP will have a hard time, that's where you find the middle class who have been directly affected by non salary payment, that's where you find the young hustlers who have not been favourably treated. And mind you, APC has taken full advantage of this, you need to visit Benue (both rural & urban) and sample the opinion of the people you meet, you will be shocked!! 1 Like |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by Nobody: 4:39pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Benue will vote for Jonathan becos of the rumour that Mark is likely to succeed Jonathan. Atiku will betray APC becos Buari's victory is an end to his political career and Jonathan's victory will return power to the North and there is no stronger candidate than himself. Yoruba's will vote for Buari becos most of them beliv that a vote for Buari is a vote for Osibanjo presidency becos Buari will do a Yaradua. Large number of Igbos and Ijaws in Lagos should be factored in when allocating that state to any candidate. Finally those assuming a low turn out in South East is making a mistake becos an average Igbo sees this election as THE SECOND BIAFRAN WAR. If u factor in the power of incumbency, the pattern of appointments the current administration is making since last year and electoral history of Nigerians, am giving the election to GEJ. Buari will be disqualified few days to the election and will stand judgement for forgery. #myopinions |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by emiye(m): 4:47pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
PapaBrowne: Benue state had the ACN/APC broom structure since 2011, that structure produced a sitting senator, infact, Ribadu had a better showing in Benue than his adamawa state,the gubernatorial election in 2011 was also a close one between ACN and PDP. It has two sitting senators now in APC, all contesting elections on the same day, infact, Benue is a perfect example of where contest is like PDP vs PDP in APC. The APC gubernatorial candidate is also a former minister and PDP man, the current governor perceived failed performance of 8 years will take its toll a bit, to now award 75% to PDP in such contest is way too optimistic . Nassarawa State has the CPC structure that produced a governor, whatever that structure has lost, it had gained more, if not, the governor would have been impeached. Bear in mind, that GEJ will not get a better result than 2011 in any state, he didnt get 60% in 2011 when a PDP structure was in charge of the state, he wont get it now. Thread carefully with the Osun state election, Omisore had bloc votes from Ife, his place of origin, which has like 8 local government , it wont necessarily translate to bloc votes for GEJ, Civil servants revolt against Aregbesola also had its impact in the gubernatorial election, to what effect, it will have in 2015 presidential election is subject to varying perceptions, but it is better to place it at neutral. |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by OKPARIPO(m): 5:20pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
I sincerely agree with your analysis. However, I have some questions regarding the card readers: 1. Are the card readers tied to a particular pooling unit? If yes then rigging won't be allowed Bt if no, I see a situation where INEC in collaboration with APC will make use of those cards to vote from remote location there by increasing the Talley for APC |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by Nobody: 6:37pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
IVORY2009: Thank you! |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by bondingman: 6:45pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Op good one You're witty close to what it'll be like Though I expect a wider margin of victory |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by Adminisher: 6:55pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
tuniski: You guys are building hope on nothing. |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by lakesidepapa(m): 7:38pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
emiye: u can lie o, Ife have just 4 local government while Ijesha have 6 local government and ijesha is a very stronghold of Apc |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by TRUTHTOPOWER: 8:39pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Your analysis clearly ignores PDP strategy:- Religion and Culture. if muslims are nearly 50% of voters, you should know how they will reply GEJites for denigrating GMB? As for The remaining 50% who are Christians, majority may sit idly by and trust God to literally come down to cast the deciding vote! under the circumstances, GMB has more than 60% chance to win a free and fair election. it would have been better if GEJites acknowledged lapses in governance and make genuine moves for reconciliation and reforms. Instead they are telling 30million Unemployed youths (as per National Bureau of Statistics and Fed min of Youths) that some 2 million jobs were created. Voting PDP will be as a result of personal conviction and experience. Sadly, i don't know how many people the party touched at `uplifting level` in the last 16 years. For many therefore it is not even the president, an amiable gentleman, it is the party that has been in power for 16 years and keep blaming its previous candidates of 12 years for poor governance. |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by emiye(m): 8:52pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
lakesidepapa: Ok, sorry, 4 major lga + Ife east, but you will agree with me that bloc votes came from those 4 LGAs. I am also aware Ife central has the largest voting poulation after Oshogbo the state capital. The kind of bloc votes for Omisore , i doubt that of Aregbesola were as such from Ijesha. |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by macpetrus(m): 9:21pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
Nice analysis...You guys should remember that election are not won in the cities alone but in rural areas/villages.... I each villages you must see PDP/APC chaiman.. Since PDP has a lot of resources to give interms of Money to the villagers.. They will surely pull more vote in the village!!!.... And most Top Guns usually goes to their village to vote and must time the boss tell them what to do especally in the North.... It going to be a close vote but PDP is going to win!!! |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by Nobody: 9:41pm On Mar 19, 2015 |
if i use your post and reduce the turn out in the east and SS to 65%and north to 80% GMB wins. However GMB Will win in many of the Northern states if not all. The closest GEJ can get in any Northern state and FCT is 50%. BENUE,TARABA,ADAMAWA ARE FOR APC. |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by chrisooblog: 4:06pm On Mar 20, 2015 |
op good analysis but these are the areas I disagree on 1.SW gej wont win lagos even the sizable SS, SE vote will be influenced more by level of performance like their fellow lagosians and not ethnic/religious politics. as for osun forget that was local politics you think yorubas will choose gej/sambo over osinbajo their son? ok o ogun bigger margin for gmb ondo think it might be 50/50 rest are spot on 2.SE bigger winning margin for gej around 90 to 95% few votes gmb will get will come through ngige and rochas. might be low voter turnout 3. SS 75 to 85% winning margin for jona. expect edo and ameachi to boost gmb 4. NC nassarawa gmb should nick it kwara would be brutal for gej kogi hmm I'm not convinced but ok for sake of argument. benue yes gmb has political heavyweights on his corner but the recent Fulani attacks might counter this in gej favour 5. NW 80 to 85% winning margin in favour of gmb kaduna will be 65-35 in buhari's favour 6. NE 65 to 70% winning margin for gmb expect bokoharam insecurity to lead to descent but poor voter turnout. adamawa should go 60-40 for gmb overall what might doom gej in this election is the lack of huge support of political heavyweights unlike 2011 plus the north still don't fancy him no thanks to mama peacy and bokoharam. while his performances have not been exactly earth shattering to convince Yoruba voters. infact if not for sentiments SS too for bone am. the only thing going for gej is power of encumbency even that won't likely save him |
Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by idrizzle07(m): 8:05pm On Mar 21, 2015 |
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Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by wwwkaycom(m): 4:45am On Mar 22, 2015 |
warriiboguy:This look more realistic, one thing most PDP supporters don't think about is the issue of religion, Muslims are more determined when it comes to electoral things than Christians, did you hear that SW Muslims refused to meet with GEJ! 90% of Muslims in the SW will vote for GMB, I am so sure of this, I traverse most of the southwestern states on a weekly basis, I have not met any Muslim who have good words for GEJ, then you forget the RCCG factor, Pastor Enoch Adeboye actually banned political activities in all parishes of the RCCG but that hasn't stop the rank and files of the church echelon to be secretly canvassing for Prof Oshibajo who is a RCCG pastor, perhaps you guys didn't read about the new year message of the highly influential Pastor JT Kalejaye, a close ally of PYO, the secret hatred for GEJ among the priests of the catholic church is there, though Winners Chapel is favourable to GEJ but members have been sharply divided over the issue, GEJ can be assured of 60% of winners chapel members votes but that will be insignificant bearing in mind that some Christian leaders in Ogun and Lagos even organised prayer rallies for PYO just last week, in Lagos and Ogun, I see a 65:35 for GMB:GEJ In Oyo State, religious factor, power of incumbency, an army of young people who are angry with GEJ and a divided PDP will give victory to GMB, however, money politics by PDP may get GEJ up to 40% of the votes in Oyo state, In Osun PDP will win in Ife zone but GMB will win the state however, I see GEJ getting up to 25% this time around unlike in 2011, salary issues and the heavy dollarisation of GEJ may Jack up his performance this time around, in Ondo State, if people votes would count, GMB will win hands down, the governor Dr Mimiko is no longer as popular as he was in 2012 when he won a 2nd term but as an experienced politician in the art of political manoeuvring, a 50:50 thing may occur here, Ekiti state may be won by GEJ narrowly because of stomach infrastructure and a governor who sees the election as do or die In the NW, GEJ will get a shocker, just yesterday, about 10 commissioners of Gov Sule Lamido decamped to APC, Kano is about 90% in favour of GMB, you guys also confused the idea of popular PDP governorship aspirants being able to swing victory in favour of GEJ, this may not be true, In Kano State in 2011, Buhari led GEJ with a huge margin but PDP'S governor Kwankwaso was voted in the gubernatorial election, Naaba just left PDP and more politicians of NW extraction I am reliably informed will dump PDP this week including former GEJ'S ministers, Kebbi with a PDP governor is tightly in GMB's hand, the governor hasn't done much in campaigning for GEJ, in Zanfara, Katsina and Sokoto, GMB is like a deity, so 30% for GEJ in the NW is ambitious, an 80:20 thing in favour of GMB is more realistic In the NorthEast, Taraba may still go for GEJ because of religious consideration but the rumoured differences between GEJ and Gen Theophilus Danjuma may not be a good one for the president since the state is more at the Beck and call of the deep pocket general, Adamawa will go for GMB since individuals like Turaki Adamawa, Atiku Abubakar, Murtala Nyako remains in the APC, PDP bigwigs like Prof Jubril Aminu is canvassing for a northern president at the moment, the state governor Bala Ngilari who was not given the PDP'S ticket is not totally committed to the victory of the party, PDP in Adamawa State today is as divided as a divider however I believe that GEJ will garner 35-40% in the state, GMB hold the ace in Borno, Yobe, Bauchi and Gonbe, but FCT minister Bala Muhammed and Incumbent gov Dankwabo of Gonbe will do a little magic to give GEJ some 10-15% of votes in their respective states, in NE, its likely an 80:20 thing in favour of GMB In the North Central, Nasarawa will go with GMB, the incumbent governor is very strong, religious factor and former minister Labaran Maku's factors will give GMB an hedge, Maku was not well managed by the PDP and his christian tribe will give protest votes to GMB for PDP'S treatment of their son, Niger and Kwara of course are for GMB, in Kogi, the incumbent governor Idris Wada hasn't done much to impress the State and he is hated by a cross section of the people, religious and ethnic issues will play a big role here so I see a 60:40 thing in favour of GMB, in Plateau State, I sense a 55:45 thing in favour of GEJ, Benue is difficult to predict but I think a 55:45 thing in favour of GEJ might come out there so in the NC, a 65:35 thing may come out for GMB and GEJ respectively SE will be a 90:10 thing for GEJ, SS will likely be 70:30 in favour of GEJ because of Oyegun/Oshio in Edo, Amaechi in Rivers, APC/GMB's growing popularity in Akwa Ibom and Cross River and the Itsekiri/Urhobo who will vote GMB Delta due to misunderstandings with the Ijaws/GEJ GMB will win this election convincingly with or without rigging, cheers! 2 Likes |
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