patches689:


Augustus

I am seeing lots of opinion and no citations.

If it has 35km range then it has a ceiling of 6km

Simple as that
The wording of the source is the word of god!

Also: [size=15pt]please explain why the Uhmkonto has a shorter range but a higher service ceiling than the PLC9 SAM[/size]

EXACTLY- THAT SOURCE THAT AGAUGUST ATTACHED HAS SO MANY FLAWS.

patches689:


Yet Nigeria is unable to do even this.

What does that say about your intellect?

Nigerian engineers and scientists built Nigeria's second earth observation satellite now orbiting the earth and watching Jacob Zuma in his swimming pool

That's our brain level
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agaugust:


Nigerian engineers and scientists built Nigeria's second earth observation satellite now orbiting the earth and watching Jacob Zuma in his swimming pool

That's our brain level
.

Unfortunately your second earth observation satellite which was built for you by Britain is not a spy (Surveillance) satellite to can watch every move of Zuma.



http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-15098493

agaugust:


Nigerian engineers and scientists built Nigeria's second earth observation satellite now orbiting the earth and watching Jacob Zuma in his swimming pool

That's our brain level
.

We too have built satellites

Why are you unable to develop our armaments industry?

And lets not even talk about medical, nuclear and other advances we regularly churn out such as a working pebble bed reactor or the worlds first digital laser

patches689:


We too have built satellites

Why are you unable to develop our armaments industry?

And lets not even talk about medical, nuclear and other advances we regularly churn out such as a working pebble bed reactor or the worlds first digital laser

The worst of it all is that theirs was built in Britain. Nigeria has never built any satellite.



http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-15098493

THE BRITISH SATELLITE ENGINEERS CONFESSED THAT THEY GAVE SO CALLED NIGERIAN SCIENTISTS AND ENGINEERS ONLY PARTS TO ASSEMBLE (JOIN TOGETHER) SO THAT IT MAY LOOK AS IF THEY CONTRIBUTED SOMETHING. THAT WAS AFTER THE BRITISH POCKETED ABOUT $30 MILLION HARD CASH OF OIL MONEY.

THE MOEGOES INDEED.

dacostaANG:
Ok for a guy who speaks about others murdering English yet they can't even spell Portuguese correctly you are very funny.On the plane issue we call them crop dusters you I.d.iot.You Nigerians think you are the centre of Africa.
Nigeria don't even have a air superiority aircraft in service as we speak yet you call Angola ordinary.
Relax please english is not my preferred means of communication but don't ever think you're dealing with a fool here. Keep your rage to yourself and go educate yourself before trying to act like Queen Elizabeth.

lol.I aint Queen Elizabeth,rather,I am Prince Leonard Evarn,
Ok,thanks for admitting that you only have the elementary skill of tinkering around with crop dusters,what are you doing arguing about the capabilities of a fighter jet?,when did a mechanic become an aeronautic specialist?.
"keep your rage to yourself"?,whatever gave you the idea that i was raging?,please go and learn english in Namibia before coming here to spray bullets

patches689:


What does a bangladeshi F-7 have to do with yours?

F-7BGI =/= F-7NI

I am showing you another example of what F-7 jets became in the last modern variants purchased or upgraded by Pakistan, Nigeria and Bangladesh from 2008 - 2013, those are generations ahead of a basic 1950s MiG-21.

Jets don't fight according to your personal opinion about them, they fight according to the equipment installed on them.

Education for you Southies
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agaugust:

I am showing you another example of what F-7 jets became in the last modern variants purchased or upgraded by Pakistan, Nigeria and Bangladesh from 2008 - 2013, those are generations ahead of a basic 1950s MiG-21.
Jets don't fight according to your personal opinion about them, they fight according to the equipment installed on them.
Education for you Southies
.

The F7-BGI is still by far inferior to JAS 39c Gripen, it has a fire control radar with a range of a mere 35 KM.

EVarn:
lol.I aint Queen Elizabeth,rather,I am Prince Leonard Evarn,
Ok,thanks for admitting that you only have the elementary skill of tinkering around with crop dusters,what are you doing arguing about the capabilities of a fighter jet?,when did a mechanic become an aeronautic specialist?.
"keep your rage to yourself"?,whatever gave you the idea that i was raging?,please go and learn english in Namibia before coming here to spray bullets

Can you read and write portuguese?

Earn:
loll ain't Queen Elizabeth,rather,I am Prince Leonard Earn,
Ok,thanks for admitting that you only have the elementary skill of tinkering around with crop dusters,what are you doing arguing about the capabilities of a fighter jet?,when did a mechanic become an Aeronautics specialist?.
"keep your rage to yourself"?,whatever gave you the idea that i was raging?,please go and learn english in Naming before coming here to spray bullets

You are such a petty little man.

agaugust:


I am showing you another example of what F-7 jets became in the last modern variants purchased or upgraded by Pakistan, Nigeria and Bangladesh from 2008 - 2013, those are generations ahead of a basic 1950s MiG-21.

Jets don't fight according to your personal opinion about them, they fight according to the equipment installed on them.

Education for you Southies
.

You do realize that your Nigerian and Bangladeshi platforms are still miles behind the Gripen?

andrewza:


Still have not answered the question.

Still have your brain malfunctioning.

EVarn:
lol.I aint Queen Elizabeth,rather,I am Prince Leonard Evarn,
Ok,thanks for admitting that you only have the elementary skill of tinkering around with crop dusters,what are you doing arguing about the capabilities of a fighter jet?,when did a mechanic become an aeronautic specialist?.
"keep your rage to yourself"?,whatever gave you the idea that i was raging?,please go and learn english in Namibia before coming here to spray bullets

welcome back. where have you been.

patches689:


You do realize that your Nigerian and Bangladeshi platforms are still miles behind the Gripen?

the russian still operate their ancient Tupelov Bombers on their strategic bombing fleet. and they ve not even done any upgrade to them apart from COM so that it can share data with modern systems. it is miles behind the American B2 spirit but the Americans still look on it with dread.

patches689:


This guy is from the shallow end of the gene pool

If we needed amphibious abilities we would have built the ratel badger to incorporate them

Anything SANDF does not have, it's because you don't need it.

The world standard armies have thousands of amphibious armoured vehicles, USA, UK, Germany, France, Russia, China, Nigeria.

Your army is a dry land only local force for homeland defense, ZERO force projection
.

MikeCZAR:
Can you read and write portuguese?

what kind of asinine question is that,do i look portuguese to you?

overhypedsteve:
welcome back. where have you been.

i dey kampe o,oga mi.
lol,i was just on hibernation mode,got a very tight schedule these day.
moreover,i sighted you guys doing a very wonderful job,so i just sat back and enjoyed the show.
too many cooks,they say spoils the broth.

EVarn:
do i look portuguese to you?

Homenzinho mesquinho

patches689:


training > experience

Thanks ! So NAF does not need air to air jet fighter war experience, and NAF don't need air to air combat experience in a contested airspace because we already have the training with Pakistani air force using our F-7 jets with extra trainer versions PL-9C missiles with BVR range.

NAF is superior to SAAF, we have fired BVR missiles in combat training with Pakistan, but SAAF has NEVER fired a single IRIS-T missile on Gripen jets, you have NO SINGLE training missiles IRIS-T, so your pilots training is incomplete and inferior.

South African air force is dead....

1. No BVR missile
2. No missile training rounds
3. Only 6 pilots for Gripen
4. No fighter jet pilot qualified with combat rating 150 hours standard
5. No aviation fuel
6. Flights are restricted to V.I.P transport for ANC politicians only.

Mandela's air force is as dead as Mandela himself
.

agaugust:


Still have your brain malfunctioning.

Again not answering the question.

patches689:


Also: [size=13pt]please explain why the Uhmkonto has a shorter range but a higher service ceiling than the PLC9 SAM[/size]

That's the specification each manufacturer desires for his product, CITAC prefers better range, DENEL prefers better altitude.

It's a foolish question, but I still answered just for the fun of t.ormenting you more and more with NAF F-7 jet BVR missile. Am sure you have been sweating under ceiling fan since 3 days ago now .

Why does Toyota Company make the Camry have longer travel range than BMW 525i, while the BMW makes it's product with faster travel speed than Camry? That's the kind of foolish question you asked like a confused toddler.

Olodo
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dacostaANG:


Homenzinho mesquinho

lol.you call me an unsavory young boy,you must be in real pain.
homem louco velho.

agaugust:


Anything SANDF does not have, it's because you don't need it.

The world standard armies have thousands of amphibious armoured vehicles, USA, UK, Germany, France, Russia, China, Nigeria.

Your army is a dry land only local force for homeland defense, ZERO force projection
.

SANDF DOES NOT NEED AMPHIBIOUS ARMOURED VEHICLES.

agaugust:


Anything SANDF does not have, it's because you don't need it.

.

Exactly

agaugust:



Thanks ! So NAF does not need air to air jet fighter war experience, and NAF don't need air to air combat experience in a contested airspace because we already have the training with Pakistani air force using our F-7 jets with extra trainer versions PL-9C missiles with BVR range.

NAF is superior to SAAF, we have fired BVR missiles in combat training with Pakistan, but SAAF has NEVER fired a single IRIS-T missile on Gripen jets, you have NO SINGLE training missiles IRIS-T, so your pilots training is incomplete and inferior.

South African air force is dead....

1. No BVR missile
2. No missile training rounds
3. Only 6 pilots for Gripen
4. No fighter jet pilot qualified with combat rating 150 hours standard
5. No aviation fuel
6. Flights are restricted to V.I.P transport for ANC politicians only.

Mandela's air force is as dead as Mandela himself
.

ONLY SIX GRIPENS WILL R.APE THE WHOLE OF NAF NON-STOP.

agaugust:



Thanks ! So NAF does not need air to air jet fighter war experience, and NAF don't need air to air combat experience in a contested airspace because we already have the training with Pakistani air force using our F-7 jets with extra trainer versions PL-9C missiles with BVR range.

NAF is superior to SAAF, we have fired BVR missiles in combat training with Pakistan, but SAAF has NEVER fired a single IRIS-T missile on Gripen jets, you have NO SINGLE training missiles IRIS-T, so your pilots training is incomplete and inferior.

South African air force is dead....

1. No BVR missile
2. No missile training rounds
3. Only 6 pilots for Gripen
4. No fighter jet pilot qualified with combat rating 150 hours standard
5. No aviation fuel
6. Flights are restricted to V.I.P transport for ANC politicians only.

Mandela's air force is as dead as Mandela himself
.

Gripen fired the A-darter a few days ago. What proof of you firing training rounds?

1. Nigeria has no BVR
2. Says who?
3. 18 aircrew and pictures of 8 Gripen say otherwise
4. You have access to Gripen fighter pilot training hours? Amazing
5. 18 000 hours says otherwise
6. Video related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VpL_hJQMa8

SAAF is what the NAF dreams it could be

[quote author=agaugust post=31996197][/quote]

Answer the question

agaugust:

That's the specification each manufacturer desires for his product, CITAC prefers better range, DENEL prefers better altitude.

It's a foolish question, but I still answered just for the fun of t.ormenting you more and more with NAF F-7 jet BVR missile. Am sure you have been sweating under ceiling fan since 3 days ago now . gringringrin

Why does Toyota Company make the Camry have longer travel range than BMW 525i, while the BMW makes it's product with faster travel speed than Camry? That's the kind of foolish question you asked like a confused toddler.

Olodo gringringrin

Why cant you answer the question?

Which BVR missiles does Nigeria have?

Just like you had Tucanos? Just like you had Otomat Mk2? Just like you have Su30's? Just like you had T80 Oplot? Just like you had FH77 B05 L52? Just like you had CEASAR SPG?

You are simply continuing your foolish trend of imaginary arsenals

andrewza:


Again not answering the question.

Hmm, I can feel the heat across the platform. A great military isn't made on the pages of an internet forum by idle citizens who wish to project their wishful thinking on their country's military.

EVarn:
what kind of asinine question is that,do i look portuguese to you?

Nigeria was colonised by the British empire while Angola was colonised by Portugal.

I don't care what other men look like.

patches689:


Why cant you answer the question?

Which BVR missiles does Nigeria have?

Just like you had Tucanos? Just like you had Otomat Mk2? Just like you have Su30's? Just like you had T80 Oplot? Just like you had FH77 B05 L52? Just like you had CEASAR SPG?

You are simply continuing your foolish trend of imaginary arsenals

I have repeated it here 24 times in 24 hours, Nigeria has PL-9C near BVR missiles with 35 km effective range. Your argument CANNOT change the fact.

F-8 III Finback jet fighter order cancelled, replaced with JF-17 Thunder jet fighter

Chinook helicopter order cancelled, replaced with Terminator armed transport helicopter

Sea Knight helicopter order cancelled replaced with Super Puma armed transport helicopter

Cobra helicopter gunship order cancelled, replaced with Gazelle helicopter gunship

T-84 Oplot tanks order, shipment delayed in Ukraine

BMP-1 IFV order status uncertain, replaced with BVP-1 IFV

Super Tucano COIN airplane order cancelled after evaluation, replaced with Su-25 KN Scorpion COIN jet Israeli upgrade.

Su-30 jet order, aircraft still under evaluation

Bofors FH-77 B L52 Order, consult original source, Army Guide website.

Otomat Mk II, consult original source, military today website.

CEASER SPG order NEVER mentioned on this forum

Sandcat MRAP order, status uncertain, replaced with Big Foot MRAP and REVA MRAP.

Predator armed Drone order cancelled, replaced with CH-3 guided missile armed Drone .

Any other thing ya wanna rant about ? All questions answered in 5 minutes with latest procurement updates.

CASE CLOSED FINALLY !!!
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