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Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 9:49pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Islam, in no uncertain terms, denies the Sonship of Jesus Christ. However, the Qur’an provides numerous internal evidences that testify to the Biblical truth that Jesus is indeed the Son of God. The testimonies regarding Jesus in the Qur’an itself clearly show that he is more than a prophet. One of the most important points of agreement between Islam and Christianity concerns the conception of Jesus is the virgin birth.but the quran does not clearly state the reason of the virgin birth. The Qur’an teaches that the virgin-birth of Jesus was simply a manifestation of God’s power>>>> Surah 3:47: “She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So it will be. Allah createth what HE WIlL. If he decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: BE! And it is.” (Pickthall) The truth of the matter is that the virgin- birth of Jesus Christ was not a random manifestation of God’s creative power as implied in the Qur’an. While the fact that it was brought about by the power of God is without any doubt, however, this in itself does not explain its meaning or purpose. What necessity was there to give a new demonstration of this power? The Qur’an itself teaches that the mere fact that God could create men out of nothing is surely proof that God can raise them from the dead; Surah 22:5: “O mankind! If ye have a doubt about the Resurrection, consider that We created you out of dust…” (Yusuf Ali) As such, Allah is saying that no proof of the ultimate resurrection is needed for the unbelievers since his initial act of creation is sufficient for man to perceive his creative powers. In other words, there no need for Allah to show his creative work as long as he can create man. Why was the virgin-birth of Jesus a necessity? Surely, God would not do such an unusual act without reason if it were unnecessary. He would cause the virgin- birth to take place only if it was utterly necessary to do so. Something must have required that Jesus be born in this way.The virgin-birth is an article of faith, which is repeatedly upheld in the Qur’an, and yet we find that there is no explanation for the miraculous birth. In the Qur’an we are assured that, it took place, but we are not told why. However, the answer is made clear in the Bible. It tells us that unlike all other prophets, Jesus is the unique Son of God. Thus, it is absolutely necessary that he be born of a virgin-woman if he comes in the likeness of men. This is indeed what the angel told Mary when he came to explain the miraculous conception: Luke 1:32: “He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High.” Luke 1:35: “Therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the SON OF GOD.” In the Gospel, the virgin-birth is also shown as a vital link in the out-working of God’s purpose for the salvation of mankind. It was the very heart of God’s divine purpose to redeem fallen mankind who by their sinful nature was subjected to futility. (See Romans 8:20). Therefore, mankind’s salvation – your salvation – is essentially linked to the gaining of an accurate knowledge of the divine purpose behind the miraculous birth of Jesus Christ. Let us now look at other evidences in the Qur’an that points to the Sonship of God 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by simplemach(m): 9:50pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
And yet 'they' fail to accept that fact. |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 9:52pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY PROPHET WHO IS CALLED THE “WORD OF GOD” Surah 3:45: Behold! The angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth Thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus. The son of Mary, held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah;” (Yusuf Ali) Surah 4:171: “Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which he bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from him: so believe in God and His apostles.” (Yusuf Ali) In Surah 4:171, Jesus is called, “His Word.” And in Surah 3:45 the Qur’an states that Allah gave Mary a glad tidings “of a Word from Him.” In the original Arabic, the expression used here is “kalimatim-minhu.” It means kalmia (word), min (from), hu (him). It is of vital importance for Muslims to note that Jesus is the only Prophet who ever lived, who is called a Word from God. Centuries before the Qur’an came into existence, this same title was given to Jesus in the Bible: John 1:14: “And the Word became flesh and made is dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son who came from the father, and he was full of undeserved kindness and truth.” Revelation 19:13: “…the name by which he is called is the Word of God.” But why is Jesus called the “Word of God”? In view of the fact that the Qur’an attributes this title to Jesus without explanation, it is in the Bible that we find the ultimate meaning of this term. He is designated as such not only during his life here on earth but also during his pre- human spirit existence in heaven. |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by Psalm351(m): 9:53pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Hmmm.. |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 10:03pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Adam was created without the agency of a human father or mother because, as the first man on earth, he could not have had earthly parents. Such an act of creation was necessary at the beginning of the world of mankind. Someone had to be created first. But in the case of Jesus, he was born without a human father when God’s natural process of procreation had long been in existence. Here we see God interrupting the course of nature, and overriding the very laws of procreation that he had himself established, in order that Christ might thus have a virgin-birth. Why? Surely such an act could not have been without meaning. It points to the profound truth that Jesus Christ held a very special relationship with the One who was the architect of this miraculous conception – a relationship that is shared by no other prophet. The birth of no other prophet has been anything as remotely close as the miraculous conception of Jesus Christ. To deny that God does anything without a purpose behind it amounts to a denial of God himself. ( Surah 38:27) In the Qur’an, it is the very absence of such a clearly defined purpose in the unique conception of Jesus, which perplexes the seeker of truth as to the meaning behind this miraculous birth. 3 Likes |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by asadike(f): 10:27pm On Feb 19, 2015 |
Op, you dey mind them? Continue to tell them d truth, for only d truth shall set them free. 3 Likes |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by Mezie01(m): 12:27am On Feb 20, 2015 |
Malvis,u did a great job here..Actually,av been following many Christian apologist for long so as to boost myself.Now,m not good at dis socialized stuff of a thing..But I have so many articles on Muhammad Like Did Allah kill Muhammad?? Did Muhammad ever took alcohol? How prophet Muhammad hid Jesus' identity? Did they bible prophesy abt Muhammad? All written down manually.. I have so much articles but I don't know how to post dem hia because its too long to type Will u help me out ? |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by Mezie01(m): 12:32am On Feb 20, 2015 |
Pls do go down n c my post. U COULD HELP One of the most important points of agreement between Islam and Christianity concerns the conception of Jesus is the virgin birth.but the quran does not clearly state the reason of the virgin birth. The Qur’an teaches that the virgin-birth of Jesus was simply a manifestation of God’s power>>>> Surah 3:47: “She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So it will be. Allah createth what HE WIlL. If he decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: BE! And it is.” (Pickthall) The truth of the matter is that the virgin- birth of Jesus Christ was not a random manifestation of God’s creative power as implied in the Qur’an. While the fact that it was brought about by the power of God is without any doubt, however, this in itself does not explain its meaning or purpose. What necessity was there to give a new demonstration of this power? The Qur’an itself teaches that the mere fact that God could create men out of nothing is surely proof that God can raise them from the dead; Surah 22:5: “O mankind! If ye have a doubt about the Resurrection, consider that We created you out of dust…” (Yusuf Ali) As such, Allah is saying that no proof of the ultimate resurrection is needed for the unbelievers since his initial act of creation is sufficient for man to perceive his creative powers. In other words, there no need for Allah to show his creative work as long as he can create man. Why was the virgin-birth of Jesus a necessity? Surely, God would not do such an unusual act without reason if it were unnecessary. He would cause the virgin- birth to take place only if it was utterly necessary to do so. Something must have required that Jesus be born in this way.The virgin-birth is an article of faith, which is repeatedly upheld in the Qur’an, and yet we find that there is no explanation for the miraculous birth. In the Qur’an we are assured that, it took place, but we are not told why. However, the answer is made clear in the Bible. It tells us that unlike all other prophets, Jesus is the unique Son of God. Thus, it is absolutely necessary that he be born of a virgin-woman if he comes in the likeness of men. This is indeed what the angel told Mary when he came to explain the miraculous conception: Luke 1:32: “He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High.” Luke 1:35: “Therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the SON OF GOD.” In the Gospel, the virgin-birth is also shown as a vital link in the out-working of God’s purpose for the salvation of mankind. It was the very heart of God’s divine purpose to redeem fallen mankind who by their sinful nature was subjected to futility. (See Romans 8:20). Therefore, mankind’s salvation – your salvation – is essentially linked to the gaining of an accurate knowledge of the divine purpose behind the miraculous birth of Jesus Christ. Let us now look at other evidences in the Qur’an that points to the Sonship of God[/quote] |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by Nobody: 12:37am On Feb 20, 2015 |
Passing by, buh don't be shocked if ya see Empiree 9jaforlife tartar9 de depressed Rilwayne001 and co follow me enter dis thread ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by joseph1832(m): 11:33am On Feb 20, 2015 |
So if Jesus is truly the Son of God and the Quran attest to this what does it prove? Does it prove that Christians and Moslems (most of them) are the greatest set of hypocrites ever?. |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by Alone90: 11:58am On Feb 20, 2015 |
Pls poster, ur knowledge for d Quran is poor and little. Even d Bible disclaimed the fact that jesus is a son of God in d begotten nature. As a Godly person, a saint person and a prophet of God, he is a son of God. But if u say a begotten son, then ur language is not befitting God. Because begetting is an animal act, it belongs to the lower animal function of sex. And we are not to attribute such a quality to God. Pls go 2 d bible, 82dn psalm, it says 'ye are Gods and all of u r d children of d most high' and in so many other places in d bible(old and new testament), people (jews) are called either Gods or sons of God. To this we muslims have no problem. It means they are Godly pple and not begotten sosn of God. That is blasphemy. Thank you And remember Jesus was refered to as 'the son of man' 83 times in the new testament but only 13 times he is called 'son of God'. So 70 more times he is being addressed as the son of man, only to remind you of this misconception of him being a legitimate or begotten son of God 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 12:43pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
Alone90:All what you wrote are your own interpretation,the op is clear,the quran called Jesus the spirit and word of God,why? The quran never state the reason for giving Jesus this title. We are called the sons of God, infacte we are god because we are created in his image and likeness but after satan deceive man,man lost everything,that why Jesus had to be born of the spirit or God ,once you believe in him, you shall be called "son's of God" to know who Jesus really is ,read colossian 1 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Colossians%201:15-20 Jesus son of man, WHO WAS THE MAN? If you don't know the father of Jesus you do not know the true God. 2 Likes |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 12:58pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
Mezie01:thank you my brothe,there are a lot of question we need to ask this Muslims, God will not wait for over 600 years before sending muhammed to say "Jesus is not the son of God" what about thoes who have died believing Jesus is the son of God,who gonna take the blame for there unbelief?God or satan? Do it step by step, if you post a long comment,the viewers will not get the time to read it all.even me u have so many questions to ask this Muslims but am waiting for the day my ban will expired in the Islamic section.thank you 2 Likes |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 1:26pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY PROPHET WHO IS DESCRIBED AS A “SPIRIT FROM GOD” In Islam, Jesus is given the title, Ruhullah, meaning “Spirit of God.” Surah 4:171: “The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a SPIRIT FROM HIM.” The words used in Surah 4:171 are ruhun-minhu, “a Spirit from him.” Thus, the Qur’an clearly describes the human, Jesus, as a Spirit from God himself. With Jesus being the only exception, no humans are ever depicted as such. However, no attempt is made to explain this absolutely unique statement of belief in the Qur’an. Yet, the Qur’an strongly supports the Christian belief that Jesus was a pre-existing Spirit creature who took on a human form. Surah 4:171 presupposes that Jesus existed before he was conceived by a virgin-woman. For the Qur’an to identify Jesus as a Spirit from God who was committed to Mary indicates that he was with God even before he was given to her. It is the closest the Qur’an comes to admitting the pre-existence of Jesus before his conception on earth. The lack of any explanation of its significance, however, suggests that Muhammad heard and adopted Christian teachings and titles applying to Jesus without understanding them or seeing their ominous implications that Jesus was more than a prophet. Jesus was a Spirit before he came to earth as a human. The Bible, in no uncertain term, testifies to this divine truth: John 16:28: “I came out from the Father and have come into the world. Further, I am leaving the world and am going my way to the Father.” If Jesus was spoken in Qur’an as “The Word of God” and as “A Spirit from God” then these two statements would make Jesus more than a prophet because no man can be called by such titles. Such titles would be appropriate only for the one who is the unique Son of God. 1 Like |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 9:00pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY PROPHET WHO IS DECLARED “HOLY” OR “FAULTLESS” IN THE QUR’AN The Angel said to Mary: Surah 19:19: ““He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son.” (Pickthall) The Arabic word, “zakiyya” (faultless) implies that Jesus was totally without sin. Among mankind, only Jesus Christ is described as faultless or sinless in both the Qur’an and the Bible. Take note of the following examples in the Qur’anthat shows that even the great prophets sinned and required God’s forgiveness: ADAM Surah 7:23: They said: “Our Lord, we have wronged our own souls. If thou FORGIVES us not and bestow not upon us Thy mercy, we shall certainly be lost.” (Yusuf Ali) ABRAHAM Surah 26:82: “And Who I hope will forgive me my FAULT on the Day of Judgment.” (Sher Ali) MOSES Surah 28:16: “He prayed: ‘O my Lord! I have indeed wronged my soul! Do Thou then FORGiVE me!’ So God forgave him.” (Yusuf Ali) DAVID Surah 38:24: “And David gathered that We had tried him; he asked forgiveness of His Lord, fell down, bowing in prostration, and turned to God in repentance.” (Yusuf Ali) SOLOMON Surah 38:35: “He said, ‘O my Lord! Forgiveme’…” (Yusuf Ali) JONAH Surah 37:142-144: “Then the big Fish did swallow him, and he had done acts worthy of blame. Had it not been that he repented and glorified God, he would certainly have remained inside the fish.” (Yusuf Ali) The Qur’an also testifies that even Muhammad is a sinner and is in need of forgiveness. MUHAMMAD Surah 48:1-2: “Lo! We have given thee O Muhammad a signal victory, That Allah may FORGIVE THEE of thy SIN that which is past and that which is to come.” (Pickthall) Surah 47:19: “So know (O Muhammad) that there is no God save Allah, and ask forgiveness for thy sin and for believing men and believing women. Allah knoweth (both) your place of turmoil and your place of rest.” (Pickthall) THE ONLY EXCEPTION – JESUS CHRIST 1 Peter 2:22: “He (Jesus) committed no sin, and no deceit was found in his mouth.” Tola9ja,rilwayn001. This is the question I wish you guys should answer; Both the Qur’an and the Bible tell us very clearly that Jesus had no human father and was sinless . We must therefore ask ourselves this vital question, “Since Jesus is addressed as a ‘SON’ by the angel Gabriel both in the Qur’an (Surah 19:19) and in the Bible (Luke 1:35), WHOSE SON IS HE?” Is it Mary’s? In Surah 19:19, the angel Gabriel said to Mary: “I am only a messenger of thy LORD, to announce to thee the gift of a holy son .” Here, Gabriel refers to a SON who was to be given as a “GIFT” by God to Mary. Since the Qur’an makes it very clear that the son is a GIFT from God, it shows that Mary was only the recipient of that gift. She is not the source of that gift but God. The gift belongs to God. The gift was a son. Therefore, the son belongs to God which means the son was His or His son. In other words, God’s son. This testifies to the Gospel truth that Jesus is the Son of God. Pleased open your eyes, JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by Mezie01(m): 11:47pm On Feb 20, 2015 |
malvisguy212: By d way,have u come across d burning of some Quran part?? |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 7:07am On Feb 21, 2015 |
Mezie01:yes,you may want to check out this thread https://www.nairaland.com/1970166/lying-deity 2 Likes |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by Mezie01(m): 12:28pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Since u r good at surfing here,I will like u to check these?? Who killed Prophet Muhammad by David Wood? Top Ten Verses for Understanding ISIS by David Wood Just Google it out |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 2:33pm On Feb 21, 2015 |
Mezie01:thank you very much for This Info. God bless you. |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 6:21am On Feb 22, 2015 |
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Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 7:44am On Mar 27, 2015 |
THE QUR’AN STATES THAT GOD CANNOT HAVE A SON WITHOUT A CONSORT (WIFE). Surah 6:101: “To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort?” (Yusuf Ali) Yet, the Qur’an itself records that Mary had a son without a consort. Surah 19:20-21: She said: How can I have a son when no mortal hath touched me, neither have I been unchaste! He said: So (it will be). Thy Lord saith: It is easy for Me. And (it will be) that We may make of him a revelation for mankind and a mercy from Us, and it is a thing ordained. (Pickthall) QUESTION IS: If Mary could produce a son without a husband, why would it be impossible for the Almighty Creator to produce a son without a wife? Why do you believe that the Almighty God is incapable of doing something that he himself empowered Mary to do? If Mary can beget a son without the sexual involvement of a husband, why cannot the Almighty God produce a son without the sexual association of a wife If Almighty God was able to create the vast universe and every living being in it out of nothing, why is he unable to produce a son for himself without a wife? When you say that God cannot have a son without a consort, is this not limiting God’s almightiness? And the Qur’an acknowledges: Surah 39:4: “If Allah had willed to choose a son, He could have chosen what He would of that which He hath created.” Well, does not this Qur’anic verse prove that God can and could have a son? That he could have a son anytime he wants? And that He could simply create a son for himself?Is this not exactly what the Holy Bible teaches? ( Colossians 1:15) |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by kay1one2(m): 5:19pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Sexual depravity fills islam! Once "Son" is mentioned the first thing they think of is "wife"! Re.tards! Even scientists are cloning and creating embryos with three genes! Re.tards! Op nice wonderful post! Religion is a game of power not necessarily words alone. Jesus power is above all and will keep transforming lives and the world. Islam will destroy itself with its dependence on human works! 1 Like |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 7:06pm On Mar 27, 2015 |
kay1one2:thank you my good friend. God bless you. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by shahydbinaliyu(m): 10:01am On Mar 29, 2015 |
malvisguy212: God miracle which God has already solved the existence and meaning of the miracle you twisting like this (jesus is the miracle in context) If you claim that jesus is God son because he has no biological father... What of a man that has no father nor mother nor siblings nor family.. He wasn't born. That man is in Bible. His birth is far more superior than Jesus . If na birth circumstances you using to judge son of God, it means this man who wasn't born is the real son of god . Besides, the real meaning of son of God in Bible is righteous man. .. Became we have many sons of God and em good people 3 Likes |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by shahydbinaliyu(m): 10:09am On Mar 29, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Laughing... Jesus commits no sin? Why did he curse a tree and the tree died afterwards? (_according to Bible) Nobody is sinless... God forgives sins 4 Likes |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 11:26am On Mar 29, 2015 |
shahydbinaliyu:I don't even understand what you are saying here, who was the man you are talking about?when I read your post, I know I will be wasting my time, but I decided to reply you so that you won't be so proud that you answer the question(even though you dint) No muslims have been able ro answer this question; Quran called Jesus spirit and word of God and the bible called him son of God, how can you reconciled all this. |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by shahydbinaliyu(m): 11:31am On Mar 29, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Where in Quran is jesus called spirit and word of God? Which Bible call him son of God! When Jesus himself said he's servant of God, when jesus said he is a prophet of God. Do you know how many people was called son of God in bible? SMH |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 11:46am On Mar 29, 2015 |
shahydbinaliyu:read the op again,or let me paste it for you. Surah 3:45: Behold! The angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth Thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus. The son of Mary, held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah;” (Yusuf Ali) Surah 4:171: “Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which he bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from him: so believe in God and His apostles.” (Yusuf Ali) In Surah 4:171, Jesus is called, “His Word.” And in Surah 3:45 the Qur’an states that Allah gave Mary a glad tidings “of a Word from Him.” In the original Arabic, the expression used here is “kalimatim-minhu.” It means kalmia (word), min (from), hu (him). It is of vital importance for Muslims to note that Jesus is the only Prophet who ever lived, who is called a Word from God. But why is Jesus called the “Word of God”? In view of the fact that the Qur’an attributes this title to Jesus without explanation, it is in the Bible that we find the ultimate meaning of this term. He is designated as such not only during his life here on earth but also during his pre- human spirit existence in heaven. Furthermore, the Bible book of Revelation reveals that even after his heavenly resurrection, Jesus is still known as the “Word of God.” Biblical titles often describe the function served or the duty performed by the bearer. For instance, in Exodus 4:16, it is stated that God made Aaron the “mouth” or the “spokesman” of Moses, saying: “He must speak for you to the people; and it must occur that he will serve as a mouth to you, and you will serve as God to him.” JESUS IS CALLED THE SPIRIT OF GOD; Surah 4:171: “The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit from Him.” The words used in Surah 4:171 are ruhun-minhu, “a Spirit from him.” Thus, the Qur’an clearly describes the human, Jesus, as a Spirit from God himself. With Jesus being the only exception, no humans are ever depicted as such. However, no attempt is made to explain this absolutely unique statement of belief in the Qur’an. Yet, the Qur’an strongly supports the Christian belief that Jesus was a pre-existing Spirit creature who took on a human form. Surah 4:171 presupposes that Jesus existed before he was conceived by a virgin-woman. For the Qur’an to identify Jesus as a Spirit from God who was committed to Mary indicates that he was with God even before he was given to her. It is the closest the Qur’an comes to admitting the pre-existence of Jesus before his conception on earth. |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by Nobody: 12:34pm On Mar 29, 2015 |
malvisguy212 may not know anything about the Quran because nowhere the Quran says Jesus [AS] son of Mary is a son of God. nowhere i say. Also, Jesus is "a word" [like each of us is a word] but not "the word or word and no one else is same" of God. Nowhere God says Jesus is His son, but always 'son of Mary' because it has been falsely established by the christians that God is his father. In fact, in Maryam, the God says for their saying that God has taken a son, the heaven [other creation, too] is about to collapse [except God does not permit it to happen]. God says it is not 'fitting' God to have/take a son because everything in heavens, on earth [known and unknown] comes to God as a 'slave/servant. God says the similitude of creation of Jesus is the same as that of Adam; God created Adam from the earth [this is the womb now since there is no woman], then He says Be [a word], so it [the earth] becomes [a living Adam]. when the angel appeared to Mary, and Mary was saying how can i have a child, the Angel was commanded to tell her it is a thing decreed and it is easy for God and when God decrees a thing it says Be, so it Becomes. sofry, sofry ooo, because openly lying will not get you anywhere. and those encouraging you to take david woods as hero should along with you and david woods take up the challenge of drinking liquid paper if you are sure that you are on guidance. I know you will say you don't wanna tempt God. i have heard this weak line from those bigger apologetic and it is frankly a cop out. i am telling you now that you will find Jesus son of Mary not to be the greatest prophet of his Lord and he Jesus is indeed a slave servant prophet of the Merciful. Jesus, based on your lies on him will not look in your direction because he is busy with his condition; read your bible ans see how he will forsake you, the 'miracle workers'. do not die except you are a muslim. its an advise from a messenger [me; a word of God] of The Messenger [SA] of God to you, a brother in humanity. 1 Like |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by malvisguy212: 1:08pm On Mar 29, 2015 |
RoyPCain: Surah 3:47: “She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So it will be. Allah createth what He will. If he decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! And it is.” (Pickthall) If you pay close attention to the reply of the angel in this verse, the angel was trying to say God just want to demonstrate his creative power as he did from the beginning, do you think God will interrupt the process of prcreation just for Jesus to have the virgin birth? The purposed of the virgin birth was not started in the quran,after the encounter Mary had with angel, the virgin birth was not mention and there is no place in the quran the virgin birth was prophesied do you think God will no prophesied this important event? It was only in the bible the reason of the virgin birth was given, observe the reply of the true angel Gabriel here; Luke 1:30-35: And the angel said to her: “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. Behold! You will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you are to call his name Jesus. This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule as king over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end of his kingdom.” But Mary said to the angel: “How is this to be, since I am a virgin?” In answer the angel said to her: “Holy spirit will come upon you and POWER of the Most High will OVERSHADOWED you. Therefore the child to be born will be called holy — the Son of God.” As the power of God overshadowed Mary an holy seed is planted in her, it was the spirit of God that overshadowed her that is why the angel called him the SON OF GOD. Surah 39:4: “If Allah had willed to choose a son, He could have chosen what He would of that which He hath created. Be He Glorified! He is Allah, the One, the Absolute.” (Pickthall) Well, does not this Qur’anic verse prove that Allah can and could have a son? |
Re: Conclusive Evidence In The Quran That Proof Jesus Is The Son Of God. by Nobody: 2:41pm On Mar 29, 2015 |
Angels do not come down or say anything of their own, except they are commanded [19/64]. this is why they are servants and what they convey is revelation/message. if you think that angel was improvising answer to the question of Mary, you are wrong. Mary herself was not talking to the Angel because she knew that the Angel was getting word from God to her. so she herself was addressing her concerns to God, since the Angel said to her from the beginning i am a messenger of God to you. . . . so the answer [3/47] of the Angel is actually Answer of God on the lips of the Angel that appears in good human man form. while you are going about copying pickthall in english, Alhamdulillah, i read Quran this morning in arabic. and inshaAllah, in about 2 hours, i have to read it, again and later, and later and everyday of my life. Amin. you can't teach me my religion that i have been steady in for about 6/7 decades and pray daily that i remain and die upon. I am happy that i am a muslim. am on top of the world in my happiness in Islam. i am inviting you away from hell to paradise and you are enticing me to hell. i speak english all day long and you can't teach me anything in that language; i dream in it, making it my language even more than yoruba. you need to start thinking because prophesy since this is the most important in your life is only to support who it comes out of his mouth and its always about the future, so prophesying the past is illogical, but affirming the truth of the past is what is logical, eliminating falsehood of the past is what boils your blood and you are an open enemy of truth. the Quran affirms that Mary was a virgin and no male agent got her pregnant. so what the heck are you thinking? Allah made Adam from dirt. from Adam He made his mate. from both of them coming from same source in different forms because of the time of creation came their children, all of us and from a gender from us, came another of the other gender. so the other gender Jesus from Mary so befuddled you so much he must be God or son of God Who created all, in whatever manner pleased Him? please don't compare Quran with Bible because part of Bible will agree with Quran at the same time that part will disagree with the very Bible. go look at bible disagreeing with itself and see your misguidance so that you can find your way out of the danger you are locked in; save yourself and your family from hell, please. 39/4 did not say God has a son. read it clearly because you may need to learn how to read and understand english materials. Quran 112 shows that God does not have any child, no parent, no beginning or anything comparable. 18/4-5 deny that could ever have a son. 39/9 gives the scenario to consider which servant is at peace; the one that has quarreling masters or the the servant with just 1 master? of course the one that has master if each master is sending the servant he has on an errant, at the same time. 39/64-66; do the ignorant disbelievers wish that we worship than Only Allah, when believers who worship Allah in His Right are the grateful? 19/80-82 say that you will come to God alone without any support while you have associated partnership with God [which in itself is a lie against God] 19/85-93 say your action is that of criminal for lying on God, no one will have power of intercession except who God allows to have it, while you accuse God of having a son, hence heaven almost erupted because of it when everyone is a slave of God. no verse proves God desires or has a child. in fact the Quran goes against such opinion, if not by anything else, all i have listed and how can God be God except everything else is subject to Him? 2 Likes |
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