sample042: Two days ago while listening to a prosperity preacher(pastor), i heard him sayn "poverty is by choice". This got me baffled n confused at d same time. I tried to comprehend his expression bt it was to n avail. Please palz, i nid ur sensible insights on diz. Mukina n Seun dis may likely b d last post i'll update on dis forum if nt placed in frontpage(abeg place am).

fizzyshoes: Our eyes are placed in front because it's more important to look ahead than to look back. Poverty is a choice because God told moses as far as you can see so shall it be onto you. Think about that.

fizzyshoes: Our eyes are placed in front because it's more important to look ahead than to look back. Poverty is a choice because God told moses as far as you can see so shall it be onto you. Think about that.

cyrexx:

1. you said we should think about this and you didn't leave us anything worth thinking about.
2. if poverty is a choice why are most nigerians (who are incidentally very religious) still poor. cant they simply "look ahead" and see as far as they can see. how come only the prosperity preachers have this ability to "look ahead"
3. why do you think God was talking about money when He was talking to Moses. nigerian prosperity preachers are very good at interpreting scriptures to mean just about anything they want it to mean.
4. if poverty is a choice. then you can choose anything that happens to you. you can choose to be born to a rich family, choose to live in the best economy in the world, choose that rain will not disturb your plans etc. is that true? i need ur answer.

cyrexx:

1. you said we should think about this and you didn't leave us anything worth thinking about.
2. if poverty is a choice why are most nigerians (who are incidentally very religious) still poor. cant they simply "look ahead" and see as far as they can see. how come only the prosperity preachers have this ability to "look ahead"
3. why do you think God was talking about money when He was talking to Moses. nigerian prosperity preachers are very good at interpreting scriptures to mean just about anything they want it to mean.
4. if poverty is a choice. then you can choose anything that happens to you. you can choose to be born to a rich family, choose to live in the best economy in the world, choose that rain will not disturb your plans etc. is that true? i need ur answer.

iyayi05: IS IN THE HANDS OF GOD...

Yield: It depends on the situation. Some people're born into it. And when they're not given the proper aid or don't encounter opportunities to help them get out, the cycle will continue.

Youngsage:
yes, u may be born into it, but to remain in it is a choice. Even the bible says ...and u shall make your way prosperous. Joshua 1. If u sit down there, saying i'm waiting for proper aid and opportunities without striving, seeking knowlege to develop urself, then sorry.
Someone jokingly, once said, when u die and angels ask u why u didnt live life to their xpectation and u answer because i was poor, and they ask u why, u say because my parents were poor, right then u'll receive a knock on ur head!
You may be born poor, dats okay. But if u die poor, dats not okay!

cyrexx:

you are not being realistic, you can sit down in your comfortable house and say anything sweet to the ears, but if you have been in a situation where you tried everything you know to do and you dont have the favourable circumstance and opportunities to actualise what you know, then maybe you'll understand life better. i work among some remote villagers who are farmers, so i understand the situation i'm talking about. if its easy to make one's way prosperous, then why are so many religious people still poor in Nigeria. cant they simply apply the knowledge and make themselves prosperous. its more than knowledge, my dear brother, it has more to do with opportunities, without which little can be done, no matter the knowledge you acquire. so one should just thank God for his opportunities and stop saying its because of his knowledge and efforts that he's not poor. i'm not jusifying poverty; i'm just strongly against the prosperity pastors that says poverty is a poor man's choice, ITS A BIG LIE.
they just want to blame the victim for his predicament and make people feel like they can control everything as if they are God.

fizzyshoes: if you take your time and discover your potentials than you will know that poverty is a choice. Many people are wasting there time beating around the bush instead of looking means by which the can unfold there hidden potentials. Believe me or not what you need in life to succeed is in you, any battle you can not win in your heart you will never win it fiscal.

2good:

All your post are based on theory and make no sense in modern day Nigeria. Some people work very hard than you can think of, but things dont turn out the way they expect. Its a matter of planning and opportunity. If one is missing, the other is useless

cyrexx:

true talk, i fully agree. there is a saying that " when opportunity meets preparedness(planning), they give birth to success". thats why its easier to succeed in a place like America, because opportunity is already there, one would only need to prepare himself to seize it and make the best use of it. i hope our country will one day be a land of equal opportunity for everyone and not just for a few privileged.

cyrexx:

you are not being realistic, you can sit down in your comfortable house and say anything sweet to the ears, but if you have been in a situation where you tried everything you know to do and you dont have the favourable circumstance and opportunities to actualise what you know, then maybe you'll understand life better. i work among some remote villagers who are farmers, so i understand the situation i'm talking about. if its easy to make one's way prosperous, then why are so many religious people still poor in Nigeria. cant they simply apply the knowledge and make themselves prosperous. its more than knowledge, my dear brother, it has more to do with opportunities, without which little can be done, no matter the knowledge you acquire. so one should just thank God for his opportunities and stop saying its because of his knowledge and efforts that he's not poor. i'm not jusifying poverty; i'm just strongly against the prosperity pastors that says poverty is a poor man's choice, ITS A BIG LIE.
they just want to blame the victim for his predicament and make people feel like they can control everything as if they are God.

cyrexx:

you are not being realistic, you can sit down in your comfortable house and say anything sweet to the ears, but if you have been in a situation where you tried everything you know to do and you dont have the favourable circumstance and opportunities to actualise what you know, then maybe you'll understand life better. i work among some remote villagers who are farmers, so i understand the situation i'm talking about. if its easy to make one's way prosperous, then why are so many religious people still poor in Nigeria. cant they simply apply the knowledge and make themselves prosperous. its more than knowledge, my dear brother, it has more to do with opportunities, without which little can be done, no matter the knowledge you acquire. so one should just thank God for his opportunities and stop saying its because of his knowledge and efforts that he's not poor. i'm not jusifying poverty; i'm just strongly against the prosperity pastors that says poverty is a poor man's choice, ITS A BIG LIE.

they just want to blame the victim for his predicament and make people feel like they can control everything as if they are God.

fizzyshoes: if you take your time and discover your potentials than you will know that poverty is a choice. Many people are wasting there time beating around the bush instead of looking means by which the can unfold there hidden potentials. Believe me or not what you need in life to succeed is in you, any battle you can not win in your heart you will never win it fiscal.

2good:

All your post are based on theory and make no sense in modern day Nigeria. Some people work very hard than you can think of, but things dont turn out the way they expect. Its a matter of planning and opportunity. If one is missing, the other is useless

Youngsage:
you are still getting it wrong bro. Dont fall prey to poverty, stop exhibiting symptoms of the deadly disease! Poverty is a wicked monster/master, he wants pple to keep defending him/taking sides with him. This is where the issue of choice comes in.
Like i said before, getting rid of poverty starts from THE MIND, then the TONGUE/WHAT U PROFESS.
It all boys down to IGNORANCE, another killer disease. When you have the right KNOWLEDGE, you will be able to LOCATE exactly where your opportunities are and you will be able to track them down, then you will also use them to favour you, i.e after you must have done your homework very well.
But when you are still ignorant(poor in the mind), you will work yourself out searching here and there for opportunity to no avail.
Note- if u work very hard alone, in this country, u may hardly make it.
But: Hardwork+SMARTwork+ theGfactor=Success.
Cheers.

Youngsage:
Cyrexx, i'm afraid you're the one who's not being realistic. From my first post, i didn't mention anywhere that i was in support of 'prosperity preaching' neither did i try to make my post sweet to the ears.
I stated facts, you just probably misunderstood me, and i'll state them again.
Poverty stems from ignorance, a deadly disease. Now note that not academic ignorance, but ignorance of the knowledge to create wealth, potential wealth.
It all arises from the mindset, the mentality. As a man thinketh, so he is. If you think poor, in short term, you will definitely remain poor.
Do you no that wealth surrounds both the rich and the poor? But who gets it first- the rich man. Because the poor man is blinded, by his thoughts, by his friends(other poor men probably), and he probably believes his poverty is a curse, a generational curse, he thinks maybe its my destiny.
The truth is, Poverty is a curse, a wicked master, poor people are his slaves. You may not also know that poverty is a thing of the mind. If you believe you are rich, before you know it, you'll begin confessing it positively. I can go on and on, but a person who is poor mentally and financially, is very ill he needs injection. What injection? The first one will flush the poverty mentality and replace it with wealth mentality.
(wealth 101: secrets to escape poverty).
Summary: get rid of ignorance. A major barrier. Be alert. Knowledge to your geniune wealth may come anywhere, in any format. But its not easy though, pple are just in wrong places at wrong times. Mind you, you dont know where i am or what circumstances i may be /might have been, but like i said b4, it begins 4rm d mindset/thinking.
Do you know the reason why those poor farmers/villagers you mentioned are still poor?
Ignorance it is.
Cheers bro.

Yield: It depends on the situation. Some people're born into it. And when they're not given the proper aid or don't encounter opportunities to help them get out, the cycle will continue.