MikeCZAR:


Like how they won't mention their defeat at the Lomba river, they were now in defence.
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Cuban teenagers pose for photos with captured SADF Olifant tanks, question is, where are your soldiers that drove the tank ?

SADF ran Olympic race and abandoned main battle tanks

Seleka war Gecko vehicle abandonment style and Olympic foot/car race to airport did not just start yesterday o !

[img]http://www.urrib2000.narod.ru/Olifant3.jpg[/img]
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agaugust:


Ingwe missile gets defeated by T-72 smoke launch.

Nigeria has new anti-tank missiles with 10 km range , that is double your Ingwe 5 km short range

You just get your SANDF roasted for Easter dinner, better go fight Lesotho or Burundi.....avoid Nigeria o !
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It is a air to ground missile so NAF can't deploy it in a contested air space.

Nigeria lacks communication systems to fire missiles on the ground out of line of sight.

MikeCZAR:
It is a air to ground missile so NAF can't deploy it in a contested air space.

Actually it's SAAF that cannot deploy in contested air space, F-7 jets have BVR missiles, Gripen has just over half our range.

NAF kills SAAF from 35 km away with PL-9C BVR missile.

We rule the air, Drones kill SANDF.

CH-3 Drones have TV guidance and CANNOT be jammed
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agaugust:


Cuban teenagers pose for photos with captured SANDF Olifant tanks, question is, where are your soldiers that drove the tank ?

They ran Olympic race and abandoned main battle tanks
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They left it under fire in a mine field.

They tasted defeat at the Lomba river and were pushed back to their starting point in Cuito.

If they attacked again regular SADF units would've gave them a hiding again.

MikeCZAR:


Nigeria lacks communication systems to fire missiles on the ground out of line of sight.

Bwahhahahaha

Nigeria now has long range battlefield surveillance and target acquisition Video-TV-Cameras....plenty of them.

Likely another first in Africa by Nigerian army !

NA will see SANDF for real, not radar lines and dots, real video images of your army far away.....Then we send artillery to cremate you !

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agaugust:


Actually it's SAAF that cannot deploy in contested air space, F-7 jets have BVR missiles, Gripen has just over half our range.

NAF kills SAAF from 35 km away with PL-9C BVR missile.

We rule the air, Drones kill SANDF.

CH-3 Drones have TV guidance and CANNOT be jammed
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All your air frames will be destroyed on the ground.

All your F-7 will attacked out of their radar angular coverage, as your radar range is around 40km.

NAF can't deploy in a contested air space, you want the Komatoga scenario again?

MikeCZAR:


They left it under fire in a mine field.

.....SANDF troops ran away and abandoned tank....Cuban teenagers take over your Olifant tank
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agaugust:


Bwahhahahaha

Nigeria now has long range battlefield surveillance and target acquisition Video-TV-Cameras....plenty of them.

Likely another first in Africa by Nigerian army !

NA will see SANDF for real, not radar lines and dots, real video images of your army far away.....Then we send artillery to cremate you !

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Surveillance isn't guidance.

Nigeria Lacks communications systems and cannot guide ground missiles out of line of sight.

agaugust:


.....SANDF troops ran away and abandoned tank....Cuban teenagers take over your Olifant tank
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Left it in a mine field.

How many tanks did the enemy lose?

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MikeCZAR:
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All your F-7 will attacked out of their radar angular coverage, as your radar range is around 40km.

Gripen missile range is only 25 km, so how do you attack F-7 jet from 40 km away ?

You drank Easter holiday beer directly from the brewery ?
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MikeCZAR:
Surveillance isn't guidance.

Nigeria Lacks communications systems and cannot guide ground missiles out of line of sight.

NA has wire guided ATGM....Swingfire missiles.

SANDF or SAAF has NO SINGLE air to surface guided missile, NAF has plenty
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agaugust:


Ordinary T-72 main gun will demolish your Olifant tanks, not to even talk of Nigerian AR-1 anti-tank missiles
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And so?

patches689:


And so?

....SANDF is dead

agaugust:


Same way SANDF OLifant tanks will be wrecked by the same Tow Missile

T-72 has combat experience 100 times more than Olifant or Centurion tanks.

Cuban teenage boys demolished SANDF Olifant tanks and captured some for photograph display...

Cry baby cry SANDF.....teenage Cuban boys jolly ride your Olifant tanks in battle

"On February 14, 1988 the SADF and the UNITA begin the second heavy attack to the Cuito Cuanavale defenses, with forces sized in three SADF and six UNITA battalions, supported by more of 100 armored vehicles of various types, among them 40 Olifants Tanks. By this superiority of forces, they achieve to break the defense of the 59° Angolan Brigade. To cover this place were urgently thrown the unique 8 T-55 Cubans in movement in Cuito, by the command of the lieutenant colonel Héctor Aguilar. They stop the South African, destroying 10 Olifants. The remainder of the Olifants retires behind march."

http://www.urrib2000.narod.ru/Tanques3-e.html

[img]http://www.urrib2000.narod.ru/Olifant3.jpg[/img]
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Ridiculous claims.

Only 3 Olifants were ever lost in combat - all 3 drove into a mine feild and had to be abandoned.

The Olifant tore through Cuban tanks like a hot knife through butter

"If defeat for South Africa meant the loss of 31 men, three tanks, five armoured vehicles and three aircraft, then we'd lost. If victory for Fapla and the Cubans meant the loss of 4,600 men, 94 tanks, 100 armoured vehicles, 9 aircraft and other Soviet equiptment valued at more than a billion Rands, then they'd won."
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=18633.5;wap2

And in anycase - why are you comparing your brand new T-72's to our Olifant?

Your brand new tanks are obsolete death traps. Olifant is awaiting replacement with the rest of the SANDF's heavy arms after 2022

agaugust:


Every good missile is resistant to counter measure, yet smoke will kill laser guidance. Fact of science !

T-72 smoke defence will block off Ingwe laser guidance and your ATGM goes blind.

AR-1 range 10 km

Ingwe range 5 km

Yes, our ATGM drones will kill your Ratels and their Ingwe will be used to add fuel to their flames for roasting
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T-72 has no laser warning so it will only know to pop smoke when most of them have been destroyed in the first wave of ATGM attacks

Your drones will be shot down by the Starstreak systems.

You cannot defeat us

agaugust:


Cuban teenagers pose for photos with captured SADF Olifant tanks, question is, where are your soldiers that drove the tank ?

SADF ran Olympic race and abandoned main battle tanks

Seleka war Gecko vehicle abandonment style and Olympic foot/car race to airport did not just start yesterday o !

[img]http://www.urrib2000.narod.ru/Olifant3.jpg[/img]
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We rap.ed their armor

Pics related.

3:94

For every one Olifant we lost the Cubans and Angolans lost 30 of their own tanks.

But why are we talking to you about this - what do Nigerians know about tank warfare?

agaugust:


Actually it's SAAF that cannot deploy in contested air space, F-7 jets have BVR missiles, Gripen has just over half our range.

NAF kills SAAF from 35 km away with PL-9C BVR missile.

We rule the air, Drones kill SANDF.

CH-3 Drones have TV guidance and CANNOT be jammed
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You have no BVR missiles.

OR

You have BVR missiles that cannot go above 6km alititude - meaning Gripens can fly at 6.5km in safety.

This is an old argument that has been put to bed.

agaugust:


Actually it's SAAF that cannot deploy in contested air space, F-7 jets have BVR missiles, Gripen has just over half our range.

NAF kills SAAF from 35 km away with PL-9C BVR missile.

We rule the air, Drones kill SANDF.

CH-3 Drones have TV guidance and CANNOT be jammed
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You have no BVR missiles.

OR

You have BVR missiles that cannot go above 6km alititude - meaning Gripens can fly at 6.5km in safety.

You also have no forward radar systems or data-link for effective airspace management.

This is an old argument that has been put to bed.

agaugust:


....SANDF is dead

ZT3's fired from Ratels and Rooivalk and JDAM's dropped from Gripen and Milan 3's used by SF and regular army tank hunter teams as well as artillery that can use LinkZA to hit moving targets say you are dead.

MikeCZAR:
Yes, in all Southern hemisphere.
And No installations like in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOzs0mQeoU4

umh umh....wrong.
http://mg.rsasouthmilitary.com/

Henry120:


the Medical Research Council's statistics reveal that 89 murders are committed, on average, every day in South Africa.


32, 485 people are murdered every year in South-Africa.

the "easiest way for the police to reduce the crime rate is simply to do nothing but record only those crimes where a case number is absolutely mandatory ." Numerous experts are quoted as suspecting "serious under reporting"; "perhaps these figures are concealed for political reasons '; "the reason for this under reporting could be the desire to change the ongoing reputation of South Africa as the crime capital of the world."

Your source is dated June 2003, thus totally outdated and irrelevant.

patches689:


We rap.ed their armor

Pics related.

3:94

For every one Olifant we lost the Cubans and Angolans lost 30 of their own tanks.

But why are we talking to you about this - what do Nigerians know about tank warfare?

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Cuban Teenage Army R.aped South African Armoured Brigades In Broad Day Light

"On February 14, 1988 the SADF and the UNITA begin the second heavy attack to the Cuito Cuanavale defenses, with forces sized in three SADF and six UNITA battalions, supported by more of 100 armored vehicles of various types, among them 40 Olifants Tanks. By this superiority of forces, they achieve to break the defense of the 59° Angolan Brigade. To cover this place were urgently thrown the unique 8 T-55 Cubans in movement in Cuito, by the command of the lieutenant colonel Héctor Aguilar. They stop the South African, destroying 10 Olifants tanks in one day. The remainder of the Olifants retires behind march."

http://www.urrib2000.narod.ru/Tanques3-e.html

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agaugust:


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Cuban Teenage Army R.aped South African Armoured Brigades In Broad Day Light

"On February 14, 1988 the SADF and the UNITA begin the second heavy attack to the Cuito Cuanavale defenses, with forces sized in three SADF and six UNITA battalions, supported by more of 100 armored vehicles of various types, among them 40 Olifants Tanks. By this superiority of forces, they achieve to break the defense of the 59° Angolan Brigade. To cover this place were urgently thrown the unique 8 T-55 Cubans in movement in Cuito, by the command of the lieutenant colonel Héctor Aguilar. They stop the South African, destroying 10 Olifants tanks in one day. The remainder of the Olifants retires behind march."

http://www.urrib2000.narod.ru/Tanques3-e.html

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"If defeat for South Africa meant the loss of 31 men, three tanks, five armoured vehicles and three aircraft, then we'd lost. If victory for Fapla and the Cubans meant the loss of 4,600 men, 94 tanks, 100 armoured vehicles, 9 aircraft and other Soviet equiptment valued at more than a billion Rands, then they'd won."
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=18633.5;wap2


For every one Olifant we lost the Cubans and Angolans lost 30 of their own tanks.

patches689:


"If defeat for South Africa meant the loss of 31 men, three tanks, five armoured vehicles and three aircraft, then we'd lost. If victory for Fapla and the Cubans meant the loss of 4,600 men, 94 tanks, 100 armoured vehicles, 9 aircraft and other Soviet equiptment valued at more than a billion Rands, then they'd won."
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=18633.5;wap2


For every one Olifant we lost the Cubans and Angolans lost 30 of their own tanks.

Propaganda.

Truth is Cuba wrecked SADF tanks, 10 demolished in one day alone, other tanks abandoned in Olympic race

http://www.urrib2000.narod.ru/Tanques3-e.html

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patches689:


ZT3's fired from Ratels and Rooivalk and JDAM's dropped from Gripen and Milan 3's used by SF and regular army tank hunter teams as well as artillery that can use LinkZA to hit moving targets say you are dead.

Gripens get killed by F-7 jet BVR missiles 35 km away. You lose air war.

No SAAF aircraft dares to fly after that.

SANDF on ground is a sitting duck....Alpha jets destroy all G-5 and G-5 artillery.

The rest of SANDF is target practice for Bofors and Palmaria

GAME OVER.....this is 100 times worse than fighting Cuba !
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patches689:


Video related - what happens when a modern ATGM meets a fully armed T-72

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04Q-ieBnPEo

Photo related - what happens when Olifant tank meets Cuban teenage boys, not even an ATGM, just Cuban boys army


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Henry120:


No independent, on the ground source corollates your fabrication.

Fact is = SANDF was decisively dealt with.

Fact is = Seleka took the capital

Fact is = French and Fomac drove Seleka off bangui.

"Fact is = French and Fomac drove Seleka off bangui"

If the French and Fomac drove Seleka off Bangui, then WHY did Seleka Govern CAR when they over ran Bangui in March 2013?

So according to you Seleka defeated the French too when they took the capital in march 2013?

agaugust:


Cuban teenagers pose for photos with captured SADF Olifant tanks, question is, where are your soldiers that drove the tank ?

SADF ran Olympic race and abandoned main battle tanks

Seleka war Gecko vehicle abandonment style and Olympic foot/car race to airport did not just start yesterday o !

[img]http://www.urrib2000.narod.ru/Olifant3.jpg[/img]
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Cute!

agaugust:


Bwahhahahaha

Nigeria now has long range battlefield surveillance and target acquisition Video-TV-Cameras....plenty of them.

Likely another first in Africa by Nigerian army !

NA will see SANDF for real, not radar lines and dots, real video images of your army far away.....Then we send artillery to cremate you !

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Cute

Pity SANDF is allready one step ahead

EVarn:
lohatla is just one of the two training facilitie for all types of warfare located in the southern hemisphere,where does it say that SA has the 2nd biggest training field in the southern hemisphere?.
my use of the word "installation" was figurative.
how can you mistake a fishing boat for the target drone{which you missed anyway}?,didnt you say that all your warships has "advanced" binoculars?.If even with advanced binoculars,your navy cannot tell the difference between a target drone and a fishing boat,then there is clearly something wrong with your military doctrine.or has HIV clouded your eyeballs?

It is not of the same type. I keep forgetting if rodewaal or the Denel site is bigger.


At night nav lights look like nav lights.

Who said it was us.

Depends on the Training some tools may not be used.

agaugust:


.....SANDF troops ran away and abandoned tank....Cuban teenagers take over your Olifant tank
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The thing about mine feilds is that when you are stuck in one and are being shelled you dont really have the chance to get out and spend all day fixing tracks

Not that Nigerians would know since they have never fought a conventional war with modern equipment

agaugust:


NA has wire guided ATGM....Swingfire missiles.

SANDF or SAAF has NO SINGLE air to surface guided missile, NAF has plenty
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NAF has 30

Which can only be used one drones

They make nice targets for Starstreak, CRAM, Gripen and Hawk

ZT3 missile can be used on the Rooivalk