agaugust:



Propaganda.

Truth is Cuba wrecked SADF tanks, 10 demolished in one day alone, other tanks abandoned in Olympic race

http://www.urrib2000.narod.ru/Tanques3-e.html

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Propaganda

"If defeat for South Africa meant the loss of 31 men, three tanks, five armoured vehicles and three aircraft, then we'd lost. If victory for Fapla and the Cubans meant the loss of 4,600 men, 94 tanks, 100 armoured vehicles, 9 aircraft and other Soviet equiptment valued at more than a billion Rands, then they'd won."
http://jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=18633.5;wap2

agaugust:


Gripens get killed by F-7 jet BVR missiles 35 km away. You lose air war.

No SAAF aircraft dares to fly after that.

SANDF on ground is a sitting duck....Alpha jets destroy all G-5 and G-5 artillery.

The rest of SANDF is target practice for Bofors and Palmaria

GAME OVER.....this is 100 times worse than fighting Cuba !
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Nigeria has no BVR missiles.

OR

If they do they cannot fly above 6km meaning Gripen at 6.5km are safe.


Here is how it will go:

South African surveilance sattelight details Nigerian positions - up to date, no way to camoflauge them

South African Gripen perform high level recon with digital surveilance pods.

Superior Gripen use stand-off munitions (glide bombs) and PGM's to destroy NAF on the Ground as well as all NA fixed AA positions, radar instilations, communications hubs, command centers, supply dumps and motor pools.

Gripen and Hawk then begin targeting Nigerian ground forces with PGM's and Glide-Bombs

South Africa Oryx with EW kits erode what is left of Nigerian communications.

South African recce's perform raids on important infastructure and positions up to 500km behind your lines, assassinating generals, blowing up vehical and aircraft storage depo's, supply and ammo dumps, training facilities etc

Now that we have destroyed your eyes, ears and brain we move onto the next phase.

Nigerian helicopters are destroyed with Starstreak, CRAM and by Hawks/Gripen

Rooivalk use ZT3's to pick off Nigerian armor

Ratels use ZT3's to pick off Nigerian armor

South African Artillery with longer range and better guidance (Link-ZA) accurately destroy all dense Nigerian formations as well as entrenched formations, communications hubs, supply dumps.

South African ELINT systems can tell every move the Nigerian army makes - up to 40km away, and calls artillery on it.

South African MRLS systems with longer range provide counter-battery fire to destroy Nigerian artillery

South African mechanized units with superior maneuverability, tactical-awareness and firepower out fox Nigerian troops and exploit space to get into their rear and cut them off, leaving them behind to be mopped up by Motorized Infantry

South African air-assault Brigade deploys troops deep in the Nigerian rear, cutting off escape

South African Parachute regiment seized bridges, airfeilds, startegic geographical positions and further cuts off escape

Your army was overwhelmed by Boko Haram... do you honestly think you stand a chance against us?

agaugust:


Photo related - what happens when Olifant tank meets Cuban teenage boys, not even an ATGM, just Cuban boys army


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Pic related is what happens when you lose 94 tanks trying to kill 3 South African tanks

andrewza:

It is not of the same type. I keep forgetting if rodewaal or the Denel site is bigger.
At night nav lights look like nav lights.
Who said it was us.
Depends on the Training some tools may not be used.

who else would be cruising a warship around cape algehes and shooting at innocent fishermen if not the SAN?

agaugust:
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Gripen missile range is only 25 km, so how do you attack F-7 jet from 40 km away ?

You drank Easter holiday beer directly from the brewery ?
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Intercept it outside its radar angular coverage.

As it has an inferior radar, all your F-7 will be ambushed in this similar way.

That's what 4 Gen jets do.

EVarn:
who else would be cruising a warship around cape algehes and shooting at innocent fishermen if not the SAN?

Germans.

agaugust:


NA has wire guided ATGM....Swingfire missiles.

SANDF or SAAF has NO SINGLE air to surface guided missile, NAF has plenty
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which are expired oh righty then.

SA still has the Milan ATGM.

Air to surface missiles are useless if you can't deploy them in a contested air space.

agaugust:


Gripens get killed by F-7 jet BVR missiles 35 km away. You lose air war.

No SAAF aircraft dares to fly after that.

SANDF on ground is a sitting duck....Alpha jets destroy all G-5 and G-5 artillery.

The rest of SANDF is target practice for Bofors and Palmaria

GAME OVER.....this is 100 times worse than fighting Cuba !
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Before going anywhere!

Show us Nigeria mobile air traffic and control capabilities.

EVarn:
who else would be cruising a warship around cape algehes and shooting at innocent fishermen if not the SAN?

Exercise between SA and German navies.

To clear this up on the boat. This is not the first or last time a civlian boat was shot at by a warship.
http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/Navy_Fires_At_Civilian_Boat_Commander_Loses_Job_130104798.html?device=phone&c=y

andrewza:
To clear this up on the boat. This is not the first or last time a civlian boat was shot at by a warship.
http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/Navy_Fires_At_Civilian_Boat_Commander_Loses_Job_130104798.html?device=phone&c=y

Nothing cleared.

Your Navy deliberately fired 3 rounds from a 76mm at a fishing boat, yet they missed.

Sheer incompetence!

andrewza:

Germans.

hehehehe....when in doubt,blame the germans?.lol,did the germans make a 8000km journey into your territorial waters just to come and start shooting at fishing boats?
Both south african and german navies were both undergoing naval exercise in the area,why blame the germans?.

Henry120:


Nothing cleared.

Your Navy deliberately fired 3 rounds from a 76mm at a fishing boat, yet they missed.

Sheer incompetence!

who said it was deliberatly taregeted?

who said it was the 76mm?

who said it was us?

EVarn:
hehehehe....when in doubt,blame the germans?.lol,did the germans make a 8000km journey into your territorial waters just to come and start shooting at fishing boats?
Both south african and german navies were both undergoing naval exercise in the area,why blame the germans?.

Of the 4 vessels present, 3 were German.

Its only a 25% chance that it was us

MikeCZAR:
Exercise between SA and German navies.

Clearly,it was the SAN that shot at the fishing boat.I refuse to believe that the germans are that incompetent.
moreover,this isnt the first time both SAN and SAAF have directly threatened the life of innocent civilians with reckless maneovers and sheer incompetence.

Henry120:


Nothing cleared.

Your Navy deliberately fired 3 rounds from a 76mm at a fishing boat, yet they missed.

Sheer incompetence!

"Your Navy deliberately fired 3 rounds from a 76mm at a fishing boat, yet they missed."

Were you there?

How do you now it was the SAN, when all the evidence suggests it was the Germans.

patches689:

Of the 4 vessels present, 3 were German.
Its only a 25% chance that it was us

It is almost certain that it was the SAN that fired deadly rounds of munitions at the innocent fishermen.afterall,it was the germans leading the exercise,while it was the job of the south africans to secure and lockdown the area to enable the procession of the naval exercise{which they clearly failed in doing}.

EVarn:
hehehehe....when in doubt,blame the germans?.lol,did the germans make a 8000km journey into your territorial waters just to come and start shooting at fishing boats?
Both south african and german navies were both undergoing naval exercise in the area,why blame the germans?.

2 Germans vs 1 SAN. Odds are German.

EVarn:
It is almost certain that it was the SAN that fired deadly rounds of munitions at the innocent fishermen.afterall,it was the germans leading the exercise,while it was the job of the south africans to secure and lockdown the area to enable the procession of the naval exercise{which they clearly failed in doing}.

And you know this how?

jln115:

"Your Navy deliberately fired 3 rounds from a 76mm at a fishing boat, yet they missed."

Were you there?

How do you now it was the SAN, when all the evidence suggests it was the Germans.

Citation needed.

andrewza:


Citation needed.

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patches689:


Of the 4 vessels present, 3 were German.

Its only a 25% chance that it was us

It is 100 percent confirmed. It was you r3tards who took the shots, however your incompetence saved the life of Anthony day.


And you pitiful liar!!! There were only 2 German Ships participating in that particular round, as the 3rd ship had since sailed to Ghana for exercise Obangame.

You terrible terrible liar!

andrewza:


2 Germans vs 1 SAN. Odds are German.

why was it only one vessel that fired at the fishing boat?,there were about 3 or 4 vessels in the exercise,only 1 vessel was south african,and only 1 vessel shot at the civilian target,therefore,wouldnt it be accurate to conclude that the ship which fired at the fishing boat was SAN?

Henry120:


It is 100 percent confirmed. It was you r3tards who took the shots, however your incompetence saved the life of Anthony day.


And you pitiful liar!!! There were only 2 German Ships participating in that particular round, as the 3rd ship had since sailed to Ghana for exercise Obangame.

You terrible terrible liar!

"It is 100 percent confirmed"

Just sucking things out of your thumb doesnt confirm it, i want facts,quotes,citations........you know what dont even bother because your not going to be able to, nowhere has it been confirmed that it was the SAN that fired those shots.

andrewza:

And you know this how?

through a systematic analysis of the event.isnt the area of cape algehes under the south african territorial maritime authority?,then whose job is it to secure and lockdown the area for a naval exercise?,do you expect the germans to do that for you?

EVarn:
through a systematic analysis of the event.isnt the area of cape algehes under the south african territorial maritime authority?,then whose job is it to secure and lockdown the area for a naval exercise?,do you expect the germans to do that for you?

Have you ever tried to lock down a piece of ocean. I have. Fishing boats ignore radio commands and nav warnings.

EVarn:
why was it only one vessel that fired at the fishing boat?,there were about 3 or 4 vessels in the exercise,only 1 vessel was south african,and only 1 vessel shot at the civilian target,therefore,wouldnt it be accurate to conclude that the ship which fired at the fishing boat was SAN?

Nope. If they thought it was a target drone then the fireing order does not go by country.

patches689:


NAF has 30

Which can only be used one drones

They make nice targets for Starstreak, CRAM, Gripen and Hawk

ZT3 missile can be used on the Rooivalk

AR-1 missile can be used by land based Nigerian infantry, range is 10 km.

30 units is enough to make SANDF cry.

SANDF has no CRAM ammunition yet, SIPRI did NOT say so. You have nothing like that.

F-7 BVR AAM has killed Gripen from 35 km away, Hawk jets don't even dare to fly, they are captured on ground by Nigerian army.

Rooivalk is a nice breakfast meal for Roland SAM with 8 km range, Alpha jets are too much for Rooivalk.

SANDF is dëad
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agaugust:


AR-1 missile can be used by land based infantry, range is 10 km.

Rooivalk is a nice breakfast meal for Roland SAM with 8 km range .

SANDF is dëad
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Which land based vehicle can fire AR-1 missile? You and your fake engineering...just making sh*t up. Show us which vehicle fires AR-1?

andrewza:
Have you ever tried to lock down a piece of ocean. I have. Fishing boats ignore radio commands and nav warnings.

And the best thing to do is to shoot at them?,jesus,these people pay tax!,they are citizens who should be protected at all cost.
The SAN clearly failed to properly secure the area for the naval exercise,and it would be sensible to conclude that the SAN,in a fit of unholy rage,opened fire on the fishing boat.But they ended up missing the target due to incompetence.

patches689:


The thing about mine feilds is that when you are stuck in one and are being shelled you dont really have the chance to get out and spend all day fixing tracks

Not that Nigerians would know since they have never fought a conventional war with modern equipment

Nigeria clears land mines, and we have T-55 mine clearing tanks plus infantry mine detectors. We cleared over 1,500 Boko Haram mines.

Your current SANDF has not even seen a land mine in modern day battle, because Seleka has none I guess
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andrewza:

Nope. If they thought it was a target drone then the fireing order does not go by country.

Surely 3 military vessels can identify the difference between a target drone and a fishing boat.
clearly,it was the dubious handiwork of the SAN.Afterall,the german warships have the capability to spot and identify any seacraft or aircraft in a 10km radius,also they wouldnt have fired without properly confirming what exactly it was that they were shooting at.