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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:02am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: Global firepower is now out-dated. Nigeria has got 200 T-72 tanks and air to surface missile drones, plus PGM enabled Alpha jets from America and BVR missiles on F-7 jets. Balance of power has changed all over Africa .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:04am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust:" very rare to find full information" thus revert to wikipedia for further information! Yes that makes sens. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:07am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust:"Nigeria has got 200 T-72 tanks" :Citation needed "BVR missiles on F-7 jets." : Citation needed South Africa has 200 leo2A6 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:08am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust:Nigeria only has 3 land cruiser, until you show more! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 1:13am On Apr 04, 2015 |
jln115: My pleasure.... Battlefield surveillance aplenty in Nigeria Now show me more of your Ratels with battlefield surveillance, equal to that number ![]() ![]() .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 1:14am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust:How do i know the vehicles in top pic aren't the same vehicles as in the bottom pic? 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:13am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: So you are saying Wiki is better than Janes? Wiki knows more than Janes? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:20am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Sources say what you are saying is a lie. We use the information we carrently have You cannot claim something - and then say "oh actually we dont know what it can do" |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:21am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: No - they are cutters by design. Made without CIWS or Missiles And who says they shoot better than a Valour Class |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 2:22am On Apr 04, 2015 |
EVarn: 1 frigate and 1 submarine |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:22am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: You dont have 200 T-72's - you have less than 12 Drones dont count for sh1t Wow - you have 2-3 PGM capable jets We have over 50 You dont have BVR - you know this, i know this, we all know this. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:24am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Thats the same 3. You really want to compare? Our superior ground search radar + armored observation platforms are things you could only dream of. Now, do you wish to compare stats? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 2:33am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: [size=20pt]I challenge you to provide specifications for your peasant equipment!! Watch and see as I make you cry! [/size] |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:00am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: Nope, 5 different vehicles in different locations and different clour or camouflage, also different army units/regiments. SANDF has only one field surveillance Ratel. Ground radar, Nigeria has Rasit vehicle. 10 PGM armed drones is way above the ZERO that SANDF records, you have NONE. All Nigerian military arsenal is NOT yet known by public, we see them little by litte....Like the American Alpha jets able to fire PGM sold to NAF. . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:03am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: I see you crying already ! New equipment ? How will the public know? Even the new NAF Alpha jets from America, nobody has details. Your challenge clearly display your envy, anger, and frustration !.....5 Vs 1 Nigeria leads in battlefield surveillance ![]() ![]() . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:06am On Apr 04, 2015 |
andrewza: That is the full operational arsenal and battle fleet of South African navy....nice confession . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:14am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: Bwhahahaha ![]() ![]() Nigeria ordered 200 units of T-72. Many have arrived, close to 100 maybe. The others are coming by sea shipment, not by air anymore. A full shipload just arrived some days ago .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 3:46am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust:"Nope, 5 different vehicles in different locations and different clour or camouflage, also different army units/regiments." Hold that thought: Pic4: Prototype version 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 3:53am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Look at you running like a little b*tch. Which other info is missing? 7 years is still a new missile? Janes went to IDEX, manufacturers went to IDEX. Hence Janes Defence knew about the helicopter launches and your useless Wikipedia could only say "other platforms". Dont you dare even pretend to know as much as Janes Defence regarding this weapon. Again you have been caught out in a lie...simple. If you say China hasnt released all data, who gave you the balls to publicly state on here that it can be fired by land platforms? Let alone Nigerian land platforms? Damn fraud. Useless. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:39am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Who says we have only one? Project klooster equipped an entire Regiment You have only posted pictures of 3 - and then one after it has been painted. Nigerian military arsenal is well known. You only have 2 Alpha jets that can fire PGM's. The project was done by Air USA and is well documented http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38540:nigerian-air-force-receiving-additional-alpha-jets&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107 Your missile armed drones pose no risk to us. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:48am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Your equipment is well documented: - 10 Streit Cougar armoured personnel carriers - 120 Poly Technologies CS/VP3 armoured personnel carriers - 10 Spartan Mk 3 armoured vehicles - 20 Inkas Light Armoured Patrol Vehicles (LAPVs) - 4 BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicles - 6 RM-70 122 mm self-propelled multiple rocket launcher - 4 T-72M1 tanks - 48 Springbuck armoured personnel carriers (Police) - 4 BTR-3E APCs (Police) - 5 BTR-4 infantry fighting vehicles. - 50 light machineguns (Bulgeria) - 1 500 pistols, 2 270 light machineguns and eight mortars (Serbia) - 1 000 Beryl assault rifles - 30 AR-1 anti-tank missiles and five CASC CH-3 unmanned aerial vehicles - 3 Mi-35M/Hind Es in 2014, 6 armed Mi-171Sh transport helicopters in 2012, 6 Mi-35M combat helicopters in 2013 and 12 Mi-171Sh helicopters in 2014. (total of 9 Hind's and 18 Mi-171's - NOT 40!!) http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38580:recent-nigerian-military-acquisitions&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105 Its a truly pathetic round of acquisitions. The only half decent thing you did was put in a decent order for CS/C3's |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:48am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: Who said that? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:49am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: August 2014 Hungary announced it had sold 58 T-72s to Excalibur Defence Limited, which transferred them to the Czech Republic which in turn began transferring some to Nigeria. http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38580:recent-nigerian-military-acquisitions&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105 Yeah - you only ordered 58 at most. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 4:52am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: How many? Do you now wish to compare capabilities? You are 66 years behind the SANDF is ground surveillance technology! |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by patches689: 5:05am On Apr 04, 2015 |
[size=15pt]How SANDF is 66 years ahead of Nigeria in ground surveilance!! Ratel EAOS Other elements of the system include a portable target acquisition system for dismounted artillery observers, a target acquisition RPV, datalinks between these systems and regimental and battery fire-control posts, ballistic software that runs on IBM-compatible PCs, a gun management system, a muzzle velocity analyser, a meteorological system and a rugged computer and data communication system. This is a rebuild of an existing Ratel with its turret removed and a raised superstructure added to the rear of the driver's position. Pivoted either side of the hull is a hydraulically operated mast on top of which is a multisensor head which contains a day/night observation payload consisting of a three-in-one video camera for daytime acquisition, a long-range zoom and FLIR TV cueing, an Eloptro-developed FLIR and an Eloptro LH-31 laser range-finder with a video channel. This system provides accurate daytime observation to 20 km and night observation to 3.5 km. http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product1128.html Project Cytoon will see the gain 14 Thales Squire ground surveillance radars, 65 Thales Sophie thermal imagers, processors and communications equipment as part of a battlefield surveillance and mobile intelligence processing system. Thales Squire man-portable system, which was ordered for Cytoon, can plot a pedestrian at 10km, a vehicle at 21km, a tank at 28km, a helicopter at 21km, a boat at 12km and a ship at 48km, Thales avers. Because it uses a frequency modulated continuous wave Doppler radar, t[b]he Squire is also virtually undetectable to hostile electronic warfare experts, it adds.[/b] The Thales Sophie can spot humans at over 4km, tanks at 10km, helicopters at 12km and jet fighters at 16km, Thales says. http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=25861:cytoon-handed-to-the-army&catid=50:Land&Itemid=105 The radar is integrated with automatic target classification facilities for persons, wheeled vehicles, tracked vehicles and helicopters, and cannot be detected by hostile electronic support measures (ESM) equipment and radar warning receivers. http://www.army-technology.com/news/newssouth-african-army-receives-new-tactical-intelligence-system [/size]
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 6:07am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: One um boat in PE one strike craft in Mozambique and a second frigate was at sea the same time. So please cry me a river no navy is 100% ready not even the a navy at war. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:10am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: [size=16pt] Nope, you have ONLY ONE Ratel IFV mounted battlefield surveillance TV. Come back to us when you have 5 like Nigeria....we even have more than the 5 in photos. All those radars you list there wasting your time, are short range toys....a 10 km radar is new to you? Village man. We don't need long story, radar is all about detection and range, long story of it's electronic wiring and engineering construction is none of our business. Long range ground search radar, Nigeria has mobile land and air RASIT with 40 km range. Then our Shilkas are over 30 units, their radar tracks both ground and air targets with range 20 km . Roland we have another 16 units with radar range up to 18 km . 50 radars already for Nigerian army, all mobile, all on armoured vehicles. 66 years ? SANDF and about on par in battlefield ground surveillance. Then our own mobile TVs are latest models, your are old "The ground surveillance radar DR PT 2 “Rasit” was introduced on the armoured personnel carrier. It has a maximum detection range of about 8 km for pedestrians with military equipment, to about 40 km for vehicles and helicopters. Maximum speed: approx. 90 km/h Operating range: approx. 800 km Radar coverage: to 40 km Crew: 4 Armament 1 Machine Gun 7.62 mm" http://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/karte414.en.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RASIT Sorry man, I think you are confusing Nigerian army with Chad's rag tag obsolete army outdated to 1966 level. [/size] . 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 6:24am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: This was a death blow. Im sure he's on the kitchen floor, holding himself in a ball and crying. He came here posting Nigeria's system strapped to the back of a Hilux, thinking it would impress people. He was never ready. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:27am On Apr 04, 2015 |
saengine: Nope, look up at my post before your headless reply....you spoke too soon ![]() ![]() By the way, world class armies uses Nigeria's type of field TV strapped on Hilux type of 4x4....fast , mobile, helicopter portable. You don't know what a real life modern day battlefield looks like in South Africa, your army never deploys in big battle space...cowards ![]() ![]() OIL RICH ARMY OF DUBAI/UAE SHOW; NIGERIA'S TYPE OF TV FOR BATTLEFIELD SURVEILLANCE TV @saengine....photo below is death blow to your already battered ugly face ![]() ![]() http://www.sat-comm.com/products-from-sat-comm-broadcast/wilburt-pneumatic-masts/ . 1 Like
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:56am On Apr 04, 2015 |
patches689: Fool, that is Czech republic order alone, Ukraine sold more T-72 tanks to Nigeria, even before the Czech order came, this forum has been flooded with many photos of Nigerian T-72 tanks from Ukraine. You always said last year that Nigeria has NO SINGLE T-72 tanks....Ignorant mumu ![]() ![]() .
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by saengine: 7:00am On Apr 04, 2015 |
agaugust: GTFOH with that outdated cra.p. I'm sure not one single soldier has seen that system since 30 years ago. Please don't use the phrase "world class" anywhere near the word Nigeria. What is that UAE system used for? If its used to patrol borders for smugglers and illegal immigrants, then its not for "battlefield surveillence". Why isnt that truck in a military scheme? Your mounting is of concern because your soft skin Hiluxes will be opened like a can of sardines. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:06am On Apr 04, 2015 |
saengine: Bwahahhaha ![]() ![]() I shocked you. That 4x4 was at a city demo show, in war, they repaint to camo colour....Fool of Soweto, better shuut up before I cut more scars on your face....don't spoil your Easter party my friend ! I hear you say it's for immigration border patrol, LOL....the photo boldly says "ARMY-RECOGNITION." Soweto blocked-brain ![]() ![]() Did you say out-dated ? Dubai/UAE is just buying it ! New technology for year 2015 modern day armies all over the world....like Nigeria. See more, they are all over the world for modern armies, SANDF does NOT have it ![]() ![]() SANDF does not know how modern war is fought ! "The Desert Wolf surveillance canopy has been developed so that it can be fitted to most 4x4 double cab vehicles. The Command and Control operator console boasts two 22” LED screens with single worktop and two seated operators." http://www.desert-wolf.com/dw/products/surveillance-comms-4x4/surveillance-vehicles/scorpion-surveillance-canopy-on-standard-4x4-double-cab.html PHOTO : SCORPION DESERT WOLF VERSION....ARMY COMMAND AND CONTROL / SURVEILLANCE ON TOYOTA HILUX 4x4 . 1 Like
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