agaugust:


Do you read world news at all ?

Nigeria was the first country in the world to land an army in Sudan Dafur, Nigerian soldiers stopped the Sudanese supporter of APC militia from continuous mass räpe and murder of black Sudanese girls and women .

Other countries were watching the Arab on Black genocide and did NOTHING to stop it, until Nigeria forced the UN to mandate our gallant troops to fight in Sudan and we lost almost a platoon of troops in a night attack on our camp by supporter of APC militia during our peace enforcement mission.

Where was South Africa when no country wanted to stop the genocide in Dafur?

ECOWAS was led by Nigeria to deploy troops in Mali, but the new Malian military government refused Nigeria's offer of help, they chose France instead. We had to wait and observe. France then called in Nigerian army to deploy in recce and garrison role in Mali.

Nigeria did it's part well in Mali and Sudan.

South Africa refused to save the people of C.A.R from the hands of Seleka rebels, all because SANDF saw 15 coffins of parabats and refused to ever return to Bangui and save their helpless and weak African brothers and sisters suffering there.

It's a dark history of betrayal that cannot be erased from South African military history.

Cowards for ever !!!
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agaugust:


SANDF has a 50,000 man army, regular troops, 95% of whom have ZERO war experience. Your reserve force is crap...plastic toy soldiers !

No full kit for SANDF, your army has NEVER deployed more than 3,000 troops into real war zone, and your training ops for 3,000 men showed poor kit, including many troops with missing gloves, missing helmets, missing knee pads, missing body armour....ya gat NO full kits in South African army !

FACT !

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agaugust:


SANDF has a small 50,000 man army with only one type of camo , so one sweater or jacket is easy. Try raise a large 130,000 man army like Nigeria and 3 different camos plus 3 different sweaters then multiply the money cost of production.

The 4 guys in the photo are not fighting at that time, they were posing for leisure photos likely inside their base, they even removed their helmets, the way you have obviously removed your brain and I have to do your thinking for you
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agaugust:


Dude stop spewing garbage, South Africa has NEVER put SANDF into war with 3,000 troops so stop comparing your army to the level of battle hardened and big war tested armies like America and Nigeria.

See photo below American, British, and Australian troops in battle with jackets of colours different from their combat camo uniform, top flak jacket of different colour from their pants/trousers, and also body armour colours different from camo uniform colour, then troops with different uniforms in same teams.

So stop saying rubbish about Nigerian army.....when South Africa goes to big wars like Nigeria, come back and argue....
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agaugust:


Grifo -7 was never designed for those heavy jets you mentioned, it's for light jet fighters you dummy!

The modern air forces of today like Brazil have all rejected SAAF's type of 20 year old obsolete Doppler radar on Gripen, SAAB has changed to Phased Array radar for Gripen jet. South Africa is flying 20 years ago obsolete Gripen technology
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MikeCZAR:
Nope, it was the French who saved Mali cause there was no Leadership in ECOWAS.

jpphilips:


Internet Jesus attend to the issues name calling will not save you this time;




@Lezz




As someone who knows a lot, I guess this is a promise that you wish to solemnly give us facts and nothing but facts so help you God!!





ECOWAS actually begged UN security council to sanction Ivory coast, I have that on good authority, any reasonable country will see it as a sign of weakness on a regional power broker, what I don't know is the fallacy in bold, can you prove to this honorable house that ECOWAS blacklisted Ivory coast in 2011? Let me remind you that you claim to know too much as such, to get the evidence won't be a problem, please do not tactically maneuver out of this for any reason whatsoever, it is either you are proving or you are shutting up completely.
I will neither read nor respond to any other gibberish that doesn't have the proof i asked for.






Nigeria said they are not interested in a United states of Africa likewise Most successful economies in Africa at the time, SA, Morocco, Egypt Kenya etc, Nigeria never posed a threat to his plan in any visible way, why did Ghadaffi not propose the break up of Egypt, SA, Kenya, morocco and other uninterested African nations?

The USA equally made same prediction, is Ghaddafi the president of the US? instead of fixing culpability where it belongs, you are deluding yourself, have you bothered to find out why two nations with superior intelligence gathering capabilities gave Nigeria a tough verdict?

Nigeria wasn't the only country that rejected Ghaddafi's plan there were other countries, so why was Nigeria the only bulls eye? based on the above facts, Ghadafi's unfortunate prediction had nothing to do with his failed plan, only a beer parlor political analyst will make such naive connection.

To be fair if you believe that Ghaddafi proposed the break up of Nigeria because we refused United states of Africa, table your proof here, you saw how I proved mine, prove yours that same way, keep it concise and brief, any strenuous analogies and unverifiable claims will NOT be read.







Naa, it was an oversight not a blackmail, you are no where near people I may be tempted to blackmail.





That you exported your professionals because the institutions in your country has collapsed, does it mean you are a power broker?
Majority of our doctors who left for Saudi Arabia in the 80's went to make money because they were earning less in Nigeria nothing more, can you in clear conscience assume that Nigeria is a lord over Saudi Arabia because our doctors took refuge there??

I expect an answer here too.





Who was the first chairperson of the AU? one single answer of a name and probably date, any other strenuous crap will not be read.




Nigeria had no intention of handing over Bakassi even after the ICJ verdict, here is my proof;
According to obasanjo's book titled "Presidential legacy" published in 2013 and reviewed by Donald duke whose land was taken had this to say;




Now, you see how i put forward facts to disprove your diplomatic concoction on why we obeyed the ICJ order, we obeyed because a superior fire power who finds it morally right to honor the defence pact she has with cameroon by putting a gun to our head.
After this clear act of cowardice and chicken heart, who does Nigeria have a defence pact with at the time? is that how you want to be a "regional power broker"? Power broker that ordinary Cameroon can muscle away anytime? self delusion is not a crime though, enjoy your buffoonery.

Any time you are not ready to articulate facts the way i am doing it, I will not read it, the proof above is evident that you don't follow the news, after work, you sit with iya basare to take ogogoro and discuss kitchen politics, now tell me, who is an Embarassment?






From what you explained though you are too lazy or bereft of any fact to support your claim, I can only deduce that Nigeria was a softer target, a walk in the park rightly put, I don't know the date of the Chadian invasion by Libya, never mind that you are too drunk not to present that, however, if I had the information, I would ascertain their military capabilities by credible ranking, that way, we will know who is really a threat to the other, in the absence of that, both of us are merely speculating and I don't engage in such unintelligent theatrics.





Please dont give us half baked education gotten from Oshogbo roofless classrooms, when you say France is uncomfortable with Nigeria's hegemony in Africa, you should be able to prove that with verifiable events. I continue to warn you, this place is not your village meeting where anybody can make any blank statement and feel cool





What are they? Green/Jewish? Morocco used to be a member and the rest remained members so what exactly is your point here?




If you know how much I hate this kai-kai statements you make here, I wish I can extend an e slap to that your gorilla face. I presented to you events in my penultimate post where i itemized clearly why AU is an unserious organisation not suitable for serious countries like Egypt housing the best military in Africa, I went a step further to juxtapose their Arab league campaigns and more complex successes they have achieved, and you have this nonsense!! to reply me?

Where are the facts that support all these speculations, show me in the news, tell me events, for gods sake i am not your dumb wife neither am I your fat girlfriend, talk to me with facts not conjectures, I hate it





Now that you have managed to speak of an event/events, I am obliged to respond, what is the likelihood of Nigeria (in west Africa by the way) to get Ebola compared to the USA? who should have a tougher contingency plan? Nigeria or the USA?

It is only a goat brain like you will liken a scenario where a symptomatic, diarrhea Ebola patient, walks through your biggest international airport unchecked from an Ebola epicenter a few miles from home, with a controlled medevac of a volunteer health worker.
That comparism can only occur in a failed grey matter like yours, if you really think like this, please DO NOT PROCREATE, we dont need a generation of pure r@trads, we are ok! having you alone.




Edited**

Did you notice that you provided no evidence to support everything you wrote, how do you expect me to take you seriously?
It took me a year to reply a dullard, you should be grateful you managed to get my attention. regional power broker

GreenandGold:


We have been to war a gazillion times.... our war veterans are helping your lazy cowards in fighting BH... as usual, Nigeria without South Africa is useless.

MikeCZAR:
The only thing that would take time is the delivery device.

lezz:
you mean your mechanics and delivery boys.

South Africa hasn't even begin defining its role in Africa. She is just as pretentious as she is confused. Well Angola is the darling in the south and south Africa is a military confusion.

All your fake war involvements are soaked in the depths of controversy and you cannot even begin to stand in the level of Nigeria, Egypt, Algeria and Ethiopia.

You are just wannabes, an ignorant fraud who cannot see herself as she really is, as the world sees her.
Stupidity redefined!!!

MikeCZAR:
Nope, it was the French who saved Mali cause there was no Leadership in ECOWAS.

Msauza:



Mechanics and delivery boys who earn 3X more than your President for just doing odd jobs. There is something fishy in your statement.

By the way the wife of the dead SA mercenary already confessed that her husband was never a mechanic but a fighter who fought for defenceless at a cost. That's how he was making a living.

patches689:


You dont know anything about mobility or logistics. Thats why you think either is relevant in Africa

Doctrine? Your army does not have a cohesive doctrine!!

Ours won us over 35 major battles in a 25 year war where our enemy modern equipment and systems (including amphibious and tracked vehicals)

You have never fought against a well armed and trained enemy. Our war history speaks for itself

patches689:


Those units you listed are SF
MRS is SOF
(do you know the difference?)

They will never deploy in a desert its not theor job

patches689:


I have posted pictures that show that it works in all terrain types

Ask Uk, France, USA about using one cammp type in multiple terrains - they do it as well

patches689:


Last source cited by me was that 5 are fully operational and the remeaining 5 are undergoing maintenance or upgrade

As usual you ignored it because it destroyed yout argument

lezz:
your quote itself is a long distraction and takes up an entire page. Events have overtaken you. Stop fighting a drowning man's battle. You got whooped, ridiculed and reduced to a standing pack of debris.

Now stop recyclind questions which have been dealt with last month here. Move along with the issue at hand and I promise you more e-blows to your thick skull.

Does it change the fact that you are mentally incapacitated to address the questions there in?

Bros, address the questions you bloody coward, name calling will not save you this time, I AM BACK FOR YOU!! (thank God for elections),In case your brain could not sieve out the questions, I will help your dumb soul

The questions are;

1)can you prove to this honorable house that ECOWAS blacklisted Ivory coast in 2011? Let me remind you that you claim to know too much as such, to get the evidence won't be a problem, please do not tactically maneuver out of this for any reason whatsoever, it is either you are proving or you are shutting up completely.
I will neither read nor respond to any other gibberish that doesn't have the proof i asked for.

2) Prove that Ghaddafi predicted Nigeria's disintegration because Nigeria and other countries rejected the United States of Africa, any strenuous analogies and unverifiable claims will NOT be read.,

3) can you in clear conscience assume that Nigeria is a lord over Saudi Arabia because our doctors took refuge there??

4) Who was the first chairperson of the AU? one single answer of a name and probably date, any other strenuous crap will not be read.

5) Do you agree that Nigeria was threatened by France before we agreed to hand over Bakassi?

6) Prove that France is uncomfortable with Nigeria hegemony in Africa, and what are those Hegemonies?

7) Prove that the African Union is more organised than the Arab league.

Compare the Nigerian first Ebola case with the United states first Ebola case.

Remember that name calling is just an attitude, answers to questions shows your intelligence, all the questions up there were all your claims hence we implore you to do justice to them, dont let your brain down this time.

jln115:

All of the above are SFs and are equal to our SFs regarding the operations they conduct!
Also our SFs have their standard Soldier2000 camo they received when they first joined the SANDF before they were selected for the SFs regiment.They are also trained for Land and Sea operations and thus are more or less the same in terms of the operations they conduct to the Navy Seals,were as the Brits have a separate SBS that conduct Sea operations.

jln115:

They are also issued different camo depending on the requirement of their mission, for example dessert camo for operations in SWA during the Border War.

Our MRS are strictly for Maritime operations and nothing else, they are basically trained for anti piracy operations, they are however parachute trained and can preform other missions if needed!

Henry120:


Nope, MARSOC is SOF.

All the above listed SF and SOF forces have and still till today conduct operations in the desert.

EVarn:
A dog will always bark,even if you shove a gagg down its throat.jpphilips is not only a dog but also a cockroach.
He deludes himself by thinking of himself as a genuine outspoken Nigerian who is advocating for transformation,he thinks that spouting treason makes him a true citizen who isnt blinded by patriotism.
But in the end,he is just another psycologically constrained barbarian.

Henry120:


It is because I know a lot about mobility, that's why I said the SANDF has a primitive doctrine. No country except a completely naïve one develops a doctrine based on single variant or type of vehicle. Not even the Americans have a single variant of APC or type.


The SANDF has shown it self to be a primarily incompetent fighting force lacking in skill, concept and ethos to effectively prosecute missions.

MikeCZAR:
1 AK-47 and 31 rounds.

Henry120:


Your single camo simplifies all that is inefficient with the SANDF. Your single camo proves the SANDF can only deploy forces in your terrain.

You would stand out like guinea pigs in the swampy wet lands of the Niger-Delta, in the desert region of the N.E and rainforest of the SOuth-west and South-east. A colossal bloodbath waiting to happen.

The Americans do not use one Camo type in multiple terrains. The Americans have multiple camos from woodland, desert to winter. Same as the british.

Patchesagain:


First, their classification is irrelevant. But MARSOC is 100% SF - they are trained to conduct irregular warfare leading small groups of insurgents. By definition they are SF - you could also argue they have SOF elements to their role. But whatever.


Fact is that MRS is not SF and that the MRS only conducts maritime or riverine operations - thus they will never be anywhere near a desert.

Patchesagain:


American Army has one cammo type - UCP
Ameircna Marines have one cammo type - MARPAT
Canada has one cammo type - CAPDAT
UK has one cammo type - MTP
France has one cammo - FELIN

Your argument has been destroyed by simple facts. Modern professional armies are all switching to one multi-use cammo pattern. The only time you need special cammo is if you are planning on fighting in Snow.

jpphilips:


Does it change the fact that you are mentally incapacitated to address the questions there in?

Bros, address the questions you bloody coward, name calling will not save you this time, I AM BACK FOR YOU!! (thank God for elections),In case your brain could not sieve out the questions, I will help your dumb soul

The questions are;

1)can you prove to this honorable house that ECOWAS blacklisted Ivory coast in 2011? Let me remind you that you claim to know too much as such, to get the evidence won't be a problem, please do not tactically maneuver out of this for any reason whatsoever, it is either you are proving or you are shutting up completely.
I will neither read nor respond to any other gibberish that doesn't have the proof i asked for.

2) Prove that Ghaddafi predicted Nigeria's disintegration because Nigeria and other countries rejected the United States of Africa, any strenuous analogies and unverifiable claims will NOT be read.,

3) can you in clear conscience assume that Nigeria is a lord over Saudi Arabia because our doctors took refuge there??

4) Who was the first chairperson of the AU? one single answer of a name and probably date, any other strenuous crap will not be read.

5) Do you agree that Nigeria was threatened by France before we agreed to hand over Bakassi?

6) Prove that France is uncomfortable with Nigeria hegemony in Africa, and what are those Hegemonies?

7) Prove that the African Union is more organised than the Arab league.

Compare the Nigerian first Ebola case with the United states first Ebola case.

Remember that name calling is just an attitude, answers to questions shows your intelligence, all the questions up there were all your claims hence we implore you to do justice to them, dont let your brain down this time.

Henry120:


You only have 3. I've posted this evidence multiple times.

Let me assure you, if you have above 3 functional C-130's, the SANDF wouldn't have to depend so much on leasing Transport planes.

The SANDF is an inherently corrupt, under-resourced, under-effective force.

Henry120:


Your argument is DoA, dead on arrival. This photo kills it.

Henry120:


MARSOC is primarily an SOF force.

Your MRS is a boarding team, nothing spectacular. Even Gambia has a boarding team.