Henry120:


They are not all SF forces, and they do not have a single camo like the inefficient SANDF. Every SF/SOF conducts land and sea trainings. Everyone of those listed SF/S0F teams, it is nothing unheard of. I didn't mention the british SBS, I only mentioned SAS.



No, all "SANDF" forces are issued a single camo. Your S.F wear green.

Your MRS is simply a boarding team, even small nations like togo , Seychelles and mauritius all have boarding teams.

Nothing fantastic about them.

So what excatly is your argument now?

I cant keep up with your dislocated ramblings

Henry120:


Your argument is DoA, dead on arrival. This photo kills it.

Those are US marines, Special forces, and ordinary US army.

Henry120:


1 AKM/AK-47/AK-74/AKMS with 5 rounds each. And enough, enough, enough rounds of Ammo in the truck/APC.

What you gunna do when your truck is blown up?

Or you get pinned down?


Or you have to go where your truck cannot?

Or if you have to dismount in a rush and counter-attack - how will you conduct a sustained fire fight? Gunna give up your cover to run back to the truck for more mags?

What if a man gets hit? You gunna say "hold on igbo, im just gunna run back to the truck and dig around for the med kit, try not to bleed to death in the meantime"?

Patchesagain:


Ancient photo mate

Its not 2004 anymore

Facts are facts. Modern militaries are adopting single multi-use cammo pattern.s

That's a 2015 photo.

Henry120:


That's a 2015 photo.

Prove it.

Those men are wearing a cammo the US military got rid of around 2005.

So, either they are SF/SOF (which usually means they wear whatever they want) or its been taken around the time of the Gulf War Invasion or Pre-Surge Occupation.

The M249 Para leads me to suspect SF

Msauza:



Those are US marines, Special forces, and ordinary US army.

Thats also an old photo

The ghetto-rigged gun-truck in the background gives it away.

Looks like its early occuption.

Patchesagain:


Outdated information not based on facts.

[size=20pt]SAAF has 5 operational.


[color=#006600]The South African Air Force is operating five of its nine Lockheed Martin C-130 Hercules transport aircraft, as the others are either being serviced or are awaiting inspections.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=30177:five-of-nine-saaf-hercules-serviceable&catid=111:sa-defence[/color]

This is the umpteenth time i have posted this - stop pretending you havent seen this before.
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Leasing is due to the fact that we have 3000 troops deployed outside our borders, as well as heavy demands from internal operations and training.

You only have 3 operational C-130's. Evidence has been provided, go search the archives. I provided that information in december of 2014.

If you have enough Operational C-130's you won't need leased planes to support stranded troops in the CAR.

Henry120:


You only have 3 operational C-130's. Evidence has been provided, go search the archives. I provided that information in december of 2014.

If you have enough Operational C-130's you won't need leased planes to support stranded troops in the CAR.

I have just provided evidence that clearly says otherwise. We have 5 you have 3 - end of story

I have told you why we lease

I am sorry that it does not suit your opinion - but facts are facts

Feel free to repost your citation if you wish to continue your argument

Patchesagain:


Prove it.

Those men are wearing a cammo the US military got rid of around 2005.

So, either they are SF/SOF (which usually means they wear whatever they want) or its been taken around the time of the Gulf War Invasion or Pre-Surge Occupation.

The M249 Para leads me to suspect SF

Again, prove has been provided that U.S forces wear multiple Camos. That's a 2015 photo.

They are regular U.S forces. R3tard regular U.S forces use the M249 as a basic fire support for regular squads.

Patchesagain:


So what excatly is your argument now?

I cant keep up with your dislocated ramblings

My point is, stop passing your regular VBSS team for some "special squad" as they aren't.

Henry120:


Again, prove has been provided that U.S forces wear multiple Camos. That's a 2015 photo.

They are regular U.S forces. R3tard regular U.S forces use the M249 as a basic fire support for regular squads.

Prove its from 2015

US Army now wears one type of cammo in all environments - UCP

Just like marines with CAPDAT

Just like France and the UK and Canada

The M249 they have is not a standard issue version - look at the buttstock. Its either a MK49 0 or M249 Para.

This is pure fact. I am sorry if it doesnt suit your world veiw - but i cant change reality for you, so put on your big boy pants and deal with it.

Henry120:


My point is, stop passing your regular VBSS team for some "special squad" as they aren't.

They are low-teir SOF.

Pure and simple

Patchesagain:


American Army has one cammo type - UCP
Ameircna Marines have one cammo type - MARPAT
Canada has one cammo type - CAPDAT
UK has one cammo type - MTP
France has one cammo - FELIN

Your argument has been destroyed by simple facts. Modern professional armies are all switching to one multi-use cammo pattern. The only time you need special cammo is if you are planning on fighting in Snow.

I got 18 mentions from this thread alone

Cammo:

I got 18 mentions from this thread alone

Hahaha

Sorry mate

Patchesagain:


What you gunna do when your truck is blown up?

Or you get pinned down?


Or you have to go where your truck cannot?

Or if you have to dismount in a rush and counter-attack - how will you conduct a sustained fire fight? Gunna give up your cover to run back to the truck for more mags?

What if a man gets hit? You gunna say[b]
"hold on igbo, im just gunna run back to the truck and dig around for the med kit, try not to bleed to death in the meantime" [/b]
?

You do realise your 400 men in the CAR had only 1 medic.

U.S forces carry 7 mags per man.
Nigerian forces carry 5 mags per man
I've seen NATO forces with only 4 Mags, some 3.

There is always enough rounds in the truck or APC for re-supply.

Henry120:


You do realise your 400 men in the CAR had only 1 medic.

U.S forces carry 7 mags per man.
Nigerian forces carry 5 mags per man
I've seen NATO forces with only 4 Mags, some 3.

There is always enough rounds in the truck or APC for re-supply.

Who said they only had one medic? You making things up again?

400 men? Really?

So you have less than NATO? And by defeault us?

Dont post anecdotal evidence - no one cares

And answer my question- what happens if it gets hit? Are you going to constantly expose yourself to run back and get more?

patches689:


They are low-teir SOF.

Pure and simple

They are nothing more than a VBSS team.

Henry120:


They are nothing more than a VBSS team.

Because YOU say so?

Henry120:


Again, prove has been provided that U.S forces wear multiple Camos. That's a 2015 photo.

They are regular U.S forces. R3tard regular U.S forces use the M249 as a basic fire support for regular squads.

Yet not the same as Nigerian military. US army has its uniform, so is the marines and special forces. NA is just a confused rats when it comes to uniform. They are no different to rebels at all.

patches689:


Prove its from 2015

US Army now wears one type of cammo in all environments - UCP

Just like marines with CAPDAT

Just like France and the UK and Canada

The M249 they have is not a standard issue version - look at the buttstock. Its either a MK49 0 or M249 Para.

This is pure fact. I am sorry if it doesnt suit your world veiw - but i cant change reality for you, so put on your big boy pants and deal with it.

US forces in Afghanistan, multiple cammo and a basic fire-support rifle.

patches689:


Because YOU say so?

That's what they are.

Henry120:


US forces in Afghanistan, multiple cammo and a basic fire-support rifle.

Well, I guess you dont know what a basic M249 looks like the

If they are in afghanistan why do they have blank adaptors on their rifles? Do yoh usually fire blanks in battle?

So now its gon from "us army" to "us forces"?

Henry120:


That's what they are.

Because YOU say so?

Henry120:


US forces in Afghanistan, multiple cammo and a basic fire-support rifle.

Multiple cammo yet different divisions, dummy.

patches689:


Who said they only had one medic? You making things up again?

400 men? Really?

So you have less than NATO? And by defeault us?

Dont post anecdotal evidence - no one cares

And answer my question- what happens if it gets hit? Are you going to constantly expose yourself to run back and get more?

1 medic for 400 troops. That's the SANDF way.

A pathetic excuse for a military.

We have a proportionate number of Mags per man, plus more. And who says 5 Mags won't be enough to neutralise an enemy, you?

Unlike the SANDF, the NA can pretty well shoot.

Henry120:


1 medic for 400 troops. That's the SANDF way.

A pathetic excuse for a military.

We have a proportionate number of Mags per man, plus more. And who says 5 Mags won't be enough to neutralise an enemy, you?

Unlike the SANDF, the NA can pretty well shoot.

Again, who says one medic for 400 men?

Who says 400 men?

Proportionate? NATO and SANDF carry an extra 90 rounds per man!! Thats an extra 1800 rounds per platoon!! An extra 72 000 rounds per battalion!

Henry120:


1 medic for 400 troops. That's the SANDF way.

A pathetic excuse for a military.

We have a proportionate number of Mags per man, plus more. And who says 5 Mags won't be enough to neutralise an enemy, you?

Unlike the SANDF, the NA can pretty well shoot.

Our records have been written on the wall for all to see that we can kill a target more than two kilometres away. What have you achieved?

MikeCZAR:
SA has weapons grade enriched uranium guarded by IAEA people.

Do you know how long it takes for that to decay?

Msauza:



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!


THERE YOU GO AGAIN. I TOLD YOU TO LEAVE THIS SUBJECT BECAUSE YOU HARDLY KNOW ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT RADIOACTIVE ISOTOPES AND DECAY MATERIALS THAT ARE USEFUL FOR NUCLEAR MEDICINE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HIGHLY ENRICHED NUCLEAR WEAPON FUEL.

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHY DOES IT WORRY BARRACK OBAMA? IT IS BECAUSE THE FUEL IS READY TO MAKE BOMBS AND NOW THEY WANT US TO COVERT IT INTO REACTORS WITH LEU. DUMMMMMMMMMMMY!!!

GO AND LEARN YOUR PHYSICS WELL AND DONT FORGET TO PAY YOUR TUITION FEES OR ALTERNATIVELY YOU CAN PAY WITH YOUR SISTER.

Nuclear weapons have shelf life and EXPIRY DATE....Fool !

"The nation's nuclear weapons were originally designed to last for 20 to 25 years. Each year, the directors of the Department of Energy's three nuclear weapons labs must certify that the stockpile weapons will perform as designed. If the performance of an older weapon becomes questionable, lab scientists must decide how to replace its aging parts in order to restore its peak performance.

Aging weapon parts are a major topic for materials scientists are working to extend the lifetimes of stockpile weapons in two of Los Alamos' highest-priority programs. The goal of one of these programs is to extend the lifetime of a 25-year-old weapon system. These scientists must determine how the materials are changing so they can predict when a part will fail.

Uranium alloys also change their crystal structures, or phases, over time, which also presents aging problems, over time, change the phase, thereby degrading a part's properties."

http://www.lanl.gov/quarterly/q_w03/shelf_life.shtml

South Africa's Nuclear weapons are NOT maintained for war and have all EXPIRED under UN ban/treaty


Now send your junior sister to me in lieu of school fees payment , I will make her 'know me better'
.

agaugust:



Nuclear weapons have shelf life and EXPIRY DATE....Fool !

"The nation's nuclear weapons were originally designed to last for 20 to 25 years. Each year, the directors of the Department of Energy's three nuclear weapons labs must certify that the stockpile weapons will perform as designed. If the performance of an older weapon becomes questionable, lab scientists must decide how to replace its aging parts in order to restore its peak performance.

Aging weapon parts are a major topic for materials scientists are working to extend the lifetimes of stockpile weapons in two of Los Alamos' highest-priority programs. The goal of one of these programs is to extend the lifetime of a 25-year-old weapon system. These scientists must determine how the materials are changing so they can predict when a part will fail.

Uranium alloys also change their crystal structures, or phases, over time, which also presents aging problems, over time, change the phase, thereby degrading a part's properties."

http://www.lanl.gov/quarterly/q_w03/shelf_life.shtml

South Africa's Nuclear weapons are NOT maintained for war and have all EXPIRED under UN ban/treaty


Now send your junior sister to me in lieu of school fees payment , I will make her 'know me better'
.

The weapons grade fissionable material is still 100% ready to be turned into a bomb

Hence why the americans want to buy it from us and hence why we wont sell it - its our ace up our sleeve

patches689:


The weapons grade fissionable material is still 100% ready to be turned into a bomb

Hence why the americans want to buy it from us and hence why we wont sell it - its our ace up our sleeve

Citation needed.

Average self life of nuclear weapons is about 25 years, especially the out-dated old technology types South Africa got.

They also need regular maintenance in those years during life time, poor maintenance means you can just b.low up your own country.

Southie nuclear weapons have expired long time ago !
.

agaugust:


Citation needed.

Southie nuclear weapons have expired long time ago !
.

So why do the americans desperatly want to buy it?

We arent talking weapons

We are talking weapons grade plutonium

agaugust:





Nuclear weapons have shelf life and EXPIRY DATE....Fool !

"The nation's nuclear weapons were originally designed to last for 20 to 25 years. Each year, the directors of the Department of Energy's three nuclear weapons labs must certify that the stockpile weapons will perform as designed. If the performance of an older weapon becomes questionable, lab scientists must decide how to replace its aging parts in order to restore its peak performance.

Aging weapon parts are a major topic for materials scientists are working to extend the lifetimes of stockpile weapons in two of Los Alamos' highest-priority programs. The goal of one of these programs is to extend the lifetime of a 25-year-old weapon system. These scientists must determine how the materials are changing so they can predict when a part will fail.

Uranium alloys also change their crystal structures, or phases, over time, which also presents aging problems, over time, change the phase, thereby degrading a part's properties."

http://www.lanl.gov/quarterly/q_w03/shelf_life.shtml

South Africa's Nuclear weapons are NOT maintained for war and have all EXPIRED under UN ban/treaty


Now send your junior sister to me in lieu of school fees payment , I will make her 'know me better'
.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! SOUTH AFRICAS HEU NUCLEAR WEAPON FUEL IS PRESERVED AND CURRENTLY NOT IN USE. IT IS PRESERVED FOR FUTURE USE AND CAN ALWAYS BE ACTIVATED WITH ISOTOPES ANYTIME FOR REACTIVATION AND FILLING.


YOU ARE ILLITERATE WITH ASPECTS OF NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY.