rka1:
Gosh! This navy shooting, or lack of, really riled the Southies on this forum. It is like they have been searching for days in order to dump the blame on the Germans

rka1:
Gosh! This navy shooting, or lack of, really riled the Southies on this forum. It is like they have been searching for days in order to dump the blame on the Germans

andrewza:



Absence of a response is a response. Aka defencweb a news site would loose all credablety if it said a embassy said something it did not.

Admiral16:
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38765:german-vessel-responsible-for-firing-on-fisherman-during-ex-good-hope&catid=51:Sea&Itemid=106

The German navy’s frigate FGS Hessen was responsible for accidentally targeting a fishing vessel during Exercise Good Hope last month.

The German embassy said that the captain of the Hessen used practice ammunition rather than live ammunition when his frigate accidentally targeted a ski boat whilst carrying out a live fire exercise on 25 March in southern Cape waters.

Commercial fisherman and skipper Anthony Day, with nine crew members, launched from Struisbaai harbour at about 02h30 in his 28-foot boat, the Arctic. They intended heading to Twelve Mile Bank, south-southwest of Struisbaai, to fish for Geelbeck.
Day said that while he was waiting for his crew before launching, a charter boat operator arrived, towing the black-painted boat with a radar reflector. Day spoke to them and was informed that the boat was going to be used as a target at the Denel Overberg Test Range, approximately 20 nautical miles to the northeast.

Day launched his boat whilst the target boat was still tied up alongside the quay. He headed in a south-south-westerly direction opposite to that of the Denel test range. In the early hours of the morning, the Hessen mistakenly identified the fishing vessel as the 14 foot radio controlled ‘Hammerhead’ boat that was to be used for target practice as both the target and the ski boat had very similar profiles.

The German embassy said five rounds were fired at the boat, landing around 20 metres from their target, after being mistakenly identified by the Hessen’s commander and firing supervisor. After being shot at, Day immediately put on his bright deck lights so that the people on the boat could be seen, and headed west at full speed.

The German military said South Africa was responsible for closing off the area for training, according to Netwerk24.

At the time of the incident, German and South African forces were conducting live fire exercises off the coast of the Overberg Test Range, a declared live firing area, as part of Exercise Good Hope VI. Both tactical phases and missile firing were done using RIM-7 Sea Sparrow short range anti-aircraft and anti-missile weapons and RIM-116 rolling airframe missiles as well as Umkhonto infrared homing missiles, 76 mm guns and smaller weapons.

The German frigates Karlsruhe and Hessen together with the support ship Berlin were involved in the tactical exercise, with Hessen tasked with shooting the target vessel.

agaugust:


BBC and CNN have posted many lies about Nigerian army on Boko Haram war many times, have they lost credibility?

News media can always claim that another source feeds them with wrong information and they may not even apologize.

The Germans may not be interested in trading allegations about who fired wrongly, it's South Africa now struggling to refute what your own country's newspapers said and your own citizens blamed the SANDF Frigate for the incident.

We need official publication from German navy itself to confirm, or else it's your word against theirs and still a trade of allegations and blame
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agaugust:


BBC and CNN have posted many lies about Nigerian army on Boko Haram war many times, have they lost credibility?

News media can always claim that another source feeds them with wrong information and they may not even apologize.

The Germans may not be interested in trading allegations about who fired wrongly, it's South Africa now struggling to refute what your own country's newspapers said and your own citizens blamed the SANDF Frigate for the incident.

We need official publication from German navy itself to confirm, or else it's your word against theirs and still a trade of allegations and blame
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agaugust:


Show us official report from German navy NOT South African defenceweb private news magazine.
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Patchesagain:


Show us an official report from the South African navy, not private news magizines

Patchesagain:
[size=16pt]GERMANS CONFIRM THAT THEY FIRED ON THE FISHING BOAT

The German navy’s frigate FGS Hessen was responsible for accidentally targeting a fishing vessel during Exercise Good Hope last month.

The German embassy said that the captain of the Hessen used practice ammunition rather than live ammunition when his frigate accidentally targeted a ski boat whilst carrying out a live fire exercise on 25 March in southern Cape waters.

The German embassy said five rounds were fired at the boat, landing around 20 metres from their target, after being mistakenly identified by the Hessen’s commander and firing supervisor. After being shot at, Day immediately put on his bright deck lights so that the people on the boat could be seen, and headed west at full speed.

- DefenceWeb

We await a full apology from Nigerians for accusing the SANDF of such actions without any fact or substance to their allegations[/size]

Patchesagain:


Nowhere has the SAN once said it was them.

The German Embassy expressly said it was them.

This is over.

agaugust:


The blame still hangs on both navies until both navies make official publications to conclude who was shooting.

Defenceweb is NOT a reliable source, it's a mere news media organization with no responsibility for errors coming from it's journalists/sources/informants.

I don't trust private news media when a matter is controversial.

I don't swallow everything news media write on controversial matters.

agaugust:


Post the German embassy press release for us to confirm.

This matter is still on
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agaugust:



Ethiopia and Eritrea just fought a year 2000 air to air war with BVR missiles.

There is threat of air to air war in Ukraine today as NATO jets fly along Russian borders and Russian lonjg range jet bombers fly around North American borders and shadow 'intercepted' by NATO jet fighters as at today 2015.

Fact is, no navy vs navy threat has existed in the last 30 years.

Nigerian navy reserves NNS Aradu for such purpose if it happens
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agaugust:


Show us official report from German navy NOT South African defenceweb private news magazine.
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agaugust:


Show us official report from German navy NOT South African defenceweb private news magazine.
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Patchesagain:


We dont have to do anything anymore.

As my legal friends would say "the burden of proof now rests on your shoulders"

agaugust:


The blame still hangs on both navies until both navies make official publications to conclude who was shooting.

Defenceweb is NOT a reliable source, it's a mere news media organization with no responsibility for errors coming from it's journalists/sources/informants.

I don't trust private news media when a matter is controversial.

I don't swallow everything news media write on controversial matters.

osystein:
Naija is going nuclear

Michael Eboh Nigeria has signed an agreement with a Russian firm, Rosatom, to build four nuclear power plants in the country valued at $80 billion, about N16 trillion. The power plants which will have a combined capacity of 4,800 megawatts, are expected to come on stream between 2025 and 2035. Speaking at a forum in Kenya Tuesday, Mr. Franklin Erepamo Osaisai, Chairman/Chief Executive Officer, Nigeria Atomic Energy Commission, said the building of the nuclear plants would be financed by Rosatom, which will then build, own, operate and transfer the plants to the government and people of Nigeria after a number of years. www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/nigeria-russian-firm-stake-n16trn-to-build-four-nuclear-plants/

MikeCZAR:
1. Maritime threat: China and Japan over those Senkaku islands.

Ethiopia and Eritrea did what now?

agaugust:


[size=25pt] A Ugandan newspaper published ' confirmed ' news saying a battalion of Ugandan army soldiers were already assembled to fly to Nigeria in 10 days to help fight Boko Haram, you Southies were happy posting it here many times repeatedly, just because a source said it. Then 20 days later the Ugandan army HQ denied the story, did you South Africans apologize to us Nigerians ?
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agaugust:


Ethiopia and Eritrea fired BVR missiles on each others jet fighters and shot themselves down !

Has China and Japan fired anti-ship missile on each other?
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agaugust:


Nope, you are the one quoting German embassy, so show us the official press release from German embassy itself.

Defenceweb Magazine is NOT = German Embassy Public Information Department.

Burden of proof is on your coconut head
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agaugust:


Ethiopia and Eritrea fired BVR missiles on each others jet fighters and shot themselves down !

Has China and Japan fired anti-ship missile on each other?
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agaugust:


Show us official report from German navy NOT South African defenceweb private news magazine.
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