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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 1:37pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Agaugust shouldn't be crying this much, to a point of pouring his anger on the most credible defence media, Defence web.
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 1:50pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
rka1: no searching needed The clarification popped up on Defenceweb as I expected it would. What allot of the armchair generals in this forum fail to realize is that a cold-bore (guns arent sighted and the targeting computer cannot take atmospheric effects into account when formulating a firing solution) salvo of just 3 rounds fired at a vessel with such a small radar signature landing that close is good gunnery. The 76mm Otomalara gun is capable of 85 round per minute, once they had seen the shots go astray the rounds would have been walked onto target, either by the targeting computer or manually by the gunner. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 2:00pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Congratulations!!! Nigeria and SA have signed the same nuke deal with the same company. The two African giants are heading forward with the deal. http://m.news24.com/fin24/Companies/Industrial/Russians-go-for-R1-trillion-Nigerian-nuclear-deal-20150414 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 2:17pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
rka1: Wrong, it never bothered us for an inch. We just only wanted to crack a Nigerian thick skull and take from you the only consolation you resorted on. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Admiral16: 2:37pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38765:german-vessel-responsible-for-firing-on-fisherman-during-ex-good-hope&catid=51:Sea&Itemid=106 The German navy’s frigate FGS Hessen was responsible for accidentally targeting a fishing vessel during Exercise Good Hope last month. The German embassy said that the captain of the Hessen used practice ammunition rather than live ammunition when his frigate accidentally targeted a ski boat whilst carrying out a live fire exercise on 25 March in southern Cape waters. Commercial fisherman and skipper Anthony Day, with nine crew members, launched from Struisbaai harbour at about 02h30 in his 28-foot boat, the Arctic. They intended heading to Twelve Mile Bank, south-southwest of Struisbaai, to fish for Geelbeck. Day said that while he was waiting for his crew before launching, a charter boat operator arrived, towing the black-painted boat with a radar reflector. Day spoke to them and was informed that the boat was going to be used as a target at the Denel Overberg Test Range, approximately 20 nautical miles to the northeast. Day launched his boat whilst the target boat was still tied up alongside the quay. He headed in a south-south-westerly direction opposite to that of the Denel test range. In the early hours of the morning, the Hessen mistakenly identified the fishing vessel as the 14 foot radio controlled ‘Hammerhead’ boat that was to be used for target practice as both the target and the ski boat had very similar profiles. The German embassy said five rounds were fired at the boat, landing around 20 metres from their target, after being mistakenly identified by the Hessen’s commander and firing supervisor. After being shot at, Day immediately put on his bright deck lights so that the people on the boat could be seen, and headed west at full speed. The German military said South Africa was responsible for closing off the area for training, according to Netwerk24. At the time of the incident, German and South African forces were conducting live fire exercises off the coast of the Overberg Test Range, a declared live firing area, as part of Exercise Good Hope VI. Both tactical phases and missile firing were done using RIM-7 Sea Sparrow short range anti-aircraft and anti-missile weapons and RIM-116 rolling airframe missiles as well as Umkhonto infrared homing missiles, 76 mm guns and smaller weapons. The German frigates Karlsruhe and Hessen together with the support ship Berlin were involved in the tactical exercise, with Hessen tasked with shooting the target vessel. 5 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:20pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
andrewza: BBC and CNN have posted many lies about Nigerian army on Boko Haram war many times, have they lost credibility? News media can always claim that another source feeds them with wrong information and they may not even apologize. The Germans may not be interested in trading allegations about who fired wrongly, it's South Africa now struggling to refute what your own country's newspapers said and your own citizens blamed the SANDF Frigate for the incident. We need official publication from German navy itself to confirm, or else it's your word against theirs and still a trade of allegations and blame . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:22pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Admiral16: Show us official report from German navy NOT South African defenceweb private news magazine. . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:23pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust: Nowhere has the SAN once said it was them. The German Embassy expressly said it was them. This is over. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 3:26pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust: If CNN or BBC say any thing wrong about Nigeria even if it is true every one in Nigeria says they lying. Not one German as said any thing. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 3:27pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust: Show us an official report from the South African navy, not private news magizines 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 3:59pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Patchesagain: The blame still hangs on both navies until both navies make official publications to conclude who was shooting. Defenceweb is NOT a reliable source, it's a mere news media organization with no responsibility for errors coming from it's journalists/sources/informants. I don't trust private news media when a matter is controversial. I don't swallow everything news media write on controversial matters. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:02pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Patchesagain: [size=25pt] A Ugandan newspaper published ' confirmed ' news saying a battalion of Ugandan army soldiers were already assembled to fly to Nigeria in 10 days to help fight Boko Haram, you Southies were happy posting it here many times repeatedly, just because a source said it. Then 20 days later the Ugandan army HQ denied the story, did you South Africans apologize to us Nigerians ? . [/size] 2 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:06pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Post the German embassy press release for us to confirm. This matter is still on . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:08pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust: The German embassy said it was them. DefenceWeb is an online free source that relies on advertisments from arms manufacturers. If they publish false information they lose advertisments. If they say the embassy said it, then the embassy said it. Sorry for you, but you went off half cocked. We warned you to wait, but you were to eager to score cheap points. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:08pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust: We dont have to do anything anymore. As my legal friends would say "the burden of proof now rests on your shoulders" |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:10pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust:1. Maritime threat: China and Japan over those Senkaku islands. Ethiopia and Eritrea did what now? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:18pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust:Just email the embassy if you further information. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:18pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust:Just email the embassy if you need further information. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:19pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Patchesagain: Nope, you are the one quoting German embassy, so show us the official press release from German embassy itself. Defenceweb Magazine is NOT = German Embassy Public Information Department. Burden of proof is on your coconut head . 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:20pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust:Finish your slice of humble pie mate. Now you're claiming "both navies"? 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by osystein(m): 4:21pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Naija is going nuclear Michael Eboh Nigeria has signed an agreement with a Russian firm, Rosatom, to build four nuclear power plants in the country valued at $80 billion, about N16 trillion. The power plants which will have a combined capacity of 4,800 megawatts, are expected to come on stream between 2025 and 2035. Speaking at a forum in Kenya Tuesday, Mr. Franklin Erepamo Osaisai, Chairman/Chief Executive Officer, Nigeria Atomic Energy Commission, said the building of the nuclear plants would be financed by Rosatom, which will then build, own, operate and transfer the plants to the government and people of Nigeria after a number of years. www.vanguardngr.com/2015/04/nigeria-russian-firm-stake-n16trn-to-build-four-nuclear-plants/ [/quote] 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 4:24pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
osystein:This is a lies thread oh sorry I meant military thread. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 4:25pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
MikeCZAR: Ethiopia and Eritrea fired BVR missiles on each others jet fighters and shot themselves down ! Has China and Japan fired anti-ship missile on each other? . |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 4:31pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust: Agaugust just pull yourself up and brace for the news that you don't want to accept. The truth remains, the captain of German warship accidentally shot the fisherman. |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 4:40pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust: But, F7 jet cannot fire BVR, it will be a waste of the missile. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:45pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust: Nope. You used a simple newspaper artical to say that it was us. Well now, another news article says it was the Germans, and cites the German Embassy as confirming it. Burden of proof is now on you - find a source citing a member of SAN who says it was us. 1 Like |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 4:45pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust: You said that the threat of naval war was enough. When did Ethiopia and Eriteria fire BVR's? |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 4:51pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
agaugust:Show us official report from SAN that it was them! 4 Likes |
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 6:02pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
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