cococandy:
Women are not happy. That's the argument

bukatyne:
@babygirlfl,

The Bible is not sexist. It took me years to get to This point too.

I could cope more with sexist men than a sexist God. I mean the men met it (can't fault them), But the person that actually put me There and then claims to love me?

Tuah!

Read and studied and put everything in context.
P.S.: I do not use KJV though. I use NLT.

Stillfire:


Jesus was for equal opportunity. He told us to treat ourselves as one, love your neighbor as yourself, no be equality be that? , so yes He was and is a feminist.

BABE3:

Abi o? Not once in the bible did jesus, peter and paul carry placards to demonstrate.
If jesus was not okay with the gender status quo then, won't he have said or done something---- something miraculous?
not once did jesus say the woman's place is not in the kitchen.

Pdizzle:

The bible is sexist, 1st Cor 14:34-35 according to your NLT says:
Women should be silent during the church meetings. It is not proper for them to speak. They should be submissive, just as the law says.
If they have any questions, they should ask their husbands at home, for it is improper for women to speak in church meetings.

Stillfire:


Jesus was for equal opportunity. He told us to treat ourselves as one, love your neighbor as yourself, no be equality be that? , so yes He was and is a feminist.

pickabeau1:


You could have made your points without the drama and histrionics
You have your moment of fame




lol

Shollypopzz:

BTW, what do you think would have happened if Eve ate the fruit and Adam didn't?? Do you think God showing up only after Adam ate the "fruit" is significant? Like, is it sending a bigger message??

Also, what do you think would have happened if Adam ate the fruit and Eve didn't??

cococandy:
conspiracy theorist.

coogar:


equal opportunity between men.
women were always in the back seat. how come Jesus never hand picked a female as one of his disciples? was there a scarcity of righteous women?



Jesus was very ok with the status quo. the things he hated, He spoke about them with vigour & sometimes with violence. he scattered the main temple in jerusalem when he saw people trading there......Jesus wasn't tongue-tied. there was never a time he tasked the sadducees to review the rights of women. He was happy with the fact that women were covered from head to feet!



they blame apostle paul & timothy for those scriptures. i have heard someone telling me paul would be in hell cos he was a misogynist.

lezz:
lol, her truth-absorber is awfully thin.
your words were sharpened by facts and truth; it cut her deep.

coogar:


equal opportunity between men.
women were always in the back seat. how come Jesus never hand picked a female as one of his disciples? was there a scarcity of righteous women?

BABE3:

...and not once did he preach against slavery. Slaves were actually part of his sermons. He taught his followers to treat their slaves well. You can have slaves but treat them well.
... same applies to women/feminism. "Treat each other well but there's an hierarchy. Men are men. Women are women. Slaves are slaves. "
He made man the head in marriage? Marraige: arguably the most important institution. how? Why?

Stillfire:


Maybe we can borrow a smile from these women that respected their husbands and were very happy then.

njokusboy:


True feminists consider any teaching that stands at variance with theirs to be sexist...
Most religious teachings stand in contrast with what they preach and am still talking about Christianity, They prolly consider ALLAH to be not only sexist but a misogynist as well...
Religion and feminism are like water and oil, they cannot mix

Stillfire:

Equal opportunity between men? Lol. Look below.

The New Testament presupposes a fundamental equality because all humans are created in God’s image (James 3:9). Yet, an even deeper unity in Christ transcends human boundaries and social structures: no Jew or Greek, slave or free, no male and female, as all believers are all “one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28; cp. Colossians 3:11).

pickabeau1:


why do u think its a conspiracy theory

Im sure you know the family is the bedrock of any community and a dysfunctional family has effects that are perverse

cococandy:


Yes the family is the bedrock of any society.

Too bad if you feel women empowerment destroys your idea of a family.
It doesn't destroy my idea of a family and many people who I know that share such POV.

That's why it is a conspiracy theory.

BABE3:


1) so?

2) so Mary being a single mum means jesus isn't sexist?

3) that was all women were good for to jesus; good for amebo and reporting. Plus, did jesus have control over who saw him first? C'mon now..

4) his job was to perform miracles on earth, innit? Whoever commanded the miracle is irrelevant.

5) Duh! The woman has the womb. That's biology
That's a woman playing her natural role. Who should have given birth to jesus before? Joseph? ??

How about you address the fact that the 12 most important people to jesus were MEN. He had control over who he chose to be his discipline. He decided to go with men, why?

coogar:


after what eve did to adam, Jesus wouldn't let any female have that kinda access. it's not impossible for satan to have possessed a woman to seduce Jesus.........and we all know women of those days had a good understanding with satan.

Stillfire:


Equal opportunity between men? Lol. Look below.



The New Testament presupposes a fundamental equality because all humans are created in God’s image (James 3:9). Yet, an even deeper unity in Christ transcends human boundaries and social structures: no Jew or Greek, slave or free, no male and female, as all believers are all “one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28; cp. Colossians 3:11).

BlackLeopard:
Dude stop equating homosexuality with pedophilia, it's tiring. Child abuse is, I think we can agree on, wrong. Regardless of who does it to children.

BlackLeopard:
Legitimising homosexuality? Let me see. For one, most of the civilized world respecting human rights moved on. Homosexuality isn't harming anyone, and legitimizing it doesn't really increase sexual abuse cases because plain, abusers aren't by majority homosexuals.

BlackLeopard:
And in fact, I wasn't calling you either of these. I was just saying it's a thing each should consider on their own when being so strongly against at least one of those issues (homosexuality, the pedophilia is I think we can agree a different basket of fruits.)

JoeCutie:
How do you, Veekey, define feminism?

Vickybee:

Judas and Eve who was worse?

Mind you, Jesus was perfect and no man or woman can deceive or lure him.

coogar:
they blame apostle paul & timothy for those scriptures. i have heard someone telling me paul would be in hell cos he was a misogynist.

Why blame uncle Paul, Christains both men and women believe the bible was written under the influence of the holy spirit. Oh wait the spirit is sexist too

cococandy:
@bold, all thanks to feminists.

Even little is too bad And the few remaining countries where women are still in chains will keep breathing the air of feminism blowing their way until they are liberated.

Pdizzle:


Why blame uncle Paul, Christains both men and women believe the bible was written under the influence of the holy spirit. Oh wait the spirit is sexist too

bukatyne:


The Bible is not sexist. It took me years to get to This point too.

I could cope more with sexist men than a sexist God. I mean the men met it (can't fault them), But the person that actually put me There and then claims to love me?

Tuah!

Read and studied and put everything in context.

P.S.: I do not use KJV though. I use NLT.

Vickybee:

12 disciples weren't the most important people to him.

He, working with men doesn't make him a sexist or anything. Maybe it's people he felt convienent with.

By the way, he has to make a demeaning words about women before he can be called a sexist/misogynist.
What is it, then?

Pdizzle:

Why blame uncle Paul, Christains both men and women believe the bible was written under the influence of the holy spirit. Oh wait the spirit is sexist too

crackhaus:

Lol, why does it matter if you use KJV or not?

Stillfire:


Jesus was for equal opportunity. He told us to treat ourselves as one, love your neighbor as yourself, no be equality be that? , so yes He was and is a feminist.

BABE3:


Who was as important to jesus as the 12 disciples?
Beyoncé johanna? Johanna was so important to christ that there is a gospel according to st'johanna in the bible. The book is right after Mathew.

So a man has to say "woman are useless or half-useless" before he can be considered sexist?

Pdizzle:
Christianity and feminism don't mix, stop twisting words, even the new testament says women shouldn't head a church. For those saying the bible doesn't support adultery and there are lots of adulterous Christian, that doesn't make it right, the standard has been set, it's left for you to meet up.

pickabeau1:


Now you are leaping

No one ever said female empowerment destroys family

What I have said is simple
That is the message everyone else has been saying

A True Feminist will not recognize male headship in her marriage - that is if she even bothers to marry at all

crackhaus:

LOL.. easy now princess.

I simply didn't see what the fuss was about if a grandpa still wants to get his freak on.
Would it be better I judged him and ended up breaking the 'judge not' commandment?

You need to understand that feminism and Christianity are like two parallel lines, never the twain shall meet... - especially when it comes to marriage and leadership.

crackhaus:

Love your neighbor as yourself is not equality, it's equity.

Equality aims to promote fairness and justice, but
it can only work if everyone starts from the same place and needs the same things.

Equity aims to promote fairness and justice, despite our obvious differences and needs.