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Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by MuttleyLaff: 8:18pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
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Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by Kenny4lyfe(m): 8:30pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
WinsomeX: That thread must've been one of the worst nightmares you've had in while uh? Funny enough you brought it into your thread all by yourself. Call it hero-worship or whatever; why else is Paul and other apostles relevant today if not their gospel-feat. If you cannot state a feat you achieved for the gospel then shame on you for publishing falsehood against those who have. Meanwhile, keep complaining while we keep spreading the gospel till the Lord comes. A closer look at that scripture you quoted there... hmnn... That must hurt 'cus you've just shot yourself in the foot! Kpele! @Gombs - who's the cry baby now uh? 1 Like |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by WinsomeX: 9:28pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Kenny4lyfe: I expected this and it's just in keeping with your style. But, just one favour I beg: What School awarded Chris Oyakhilome a PHD and what year was it? When did Oga collect Prof?? Das'all! 2 Likes |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by WinsomeX: 9:51pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
A CLOSER LOOK AT PAUL'S "PROSPERITY" Paul: This is the reason why whoever wrote that about Chris Oyakhilome goofed big time. ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE A MAN TRUE. Most who give the impression of bring some mighty man of God are usually the least in God's sight. Only at the end shall we know who is truly mighty. I dare to even say that many who give the impression of being true are false, inside and out. Paul: Hidden things of darkness... We should fear God. All these anointed man of God, greatest teacher ever. We will be shocked at the end when the true nature of men are revealed. And God is so kind revealing bits to us but alas some are too blind to see. Paul: Learn not to think of men above what is written. May God grant Kenny4life understanding. Paul: Tell them Paul. Except your anointing is of the devil but if it of God, you should be truly humble. Paul: Prosperity Christians... Una dey hear? Paul: These are Jesus apostles, reeling out their achievements. There is no largest anything anywhere. No largest technology. Largest TV, telephone, car... mundane believers. True apostolic ministry was suicidal - appointed to death; not prosperity seeking. Paul: Mr GO... see yourself. Working with our own hands. Not sifted in AC, living off people's tithes. Paul: Being defamed... This is what Kenny wishes to identify with Oyakhilome. Only that as much as they defamed Paul, no one, talk less his wife, ever accused him of "inappropriate relations" with women. If you should suffer, suffer for righteousness sake and not for sin. That's what scripture says. They defamed and called them deragotary names like "Christians"; "Nazarenes"; "SU"; etc. 2 Likes |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by Kenny4lyfe(m): 10:06pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
WinsomeX: Good to to know someone here digs my style. Oh common don't tell me you're interested in Pneumatology? That's our cult stuff. I shouldn't share with a non-member, unless you wanna be a part of the house! |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by seedgreen(m): 10:38pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Kenny4lyfe:I was thinking with the way he thinks he know Rev Chris, he should know where and when he got the Phd..... tell him to ask Google.com |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by WinsomeX: 3:40am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Kenny4lyfe: seedgreen: It was a simple question that could have been answered with a simple answer. But thanks to seedgreen for the suggestion to go to Google. the truth is that so far, I have not contacted that resource since this thread started and this was a nice reminder. Consider what a former editor on Charisma magazine wrote on CE. Note, I'm not Pentecostal and do not subscribe to all Charisma teaching but this is very insightful: www.charismamag.com/blogs/fire-in-my-bones/15366-false-prophets-foreign-charlatans-and-global-deception Courtesy of Google. From now I will contact Google a lot more. BTW, Google has no record of Oyakhilome PHD. 2 Likes |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by sammied(m): 7:37am On Apr 15, 2015 |
WinsomeX: Please can you correct the error of quoting me wrongly. I didn't suggest anything about Google. Please confirm it again. I hate to be drawn into character assassination of personalities. Thank you. |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by WinsomeX: 9:01am On Apr 15, 2015 |
^^^ Corrected. Thank you. |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by WinsomeX: 9:22am On Apr 15, 2015 |
FALSE PROPHETS, FOREIGN CHARLATANS AND GLOBAL DECEPTION Chris Oyakhilome, a popular African preacher with questionable credentials, is sparking international concern. When I arrived in eastern Europe a few days ago I learned that Romanian Christians have quite a spiritual battle on their hands. Believers here struggled for years under communism. But now that they are free, they face an equally sinister struggle against cults, New Age teachings and—worst of all—charlatans who claim to be powerful Christian prophets. One of the most controversial figures in Romania today is Chris Oyakhilome, a Nigerian broadcaster and faith healer who lives in South Africa. Although this smooth-talking preacher has never been to Romania, his influence has grown through his TV programs and books. Meanwhile, some gullible Romanian church leaders have visited his ministry base in Johannesburg and then returned to impart his miracle power to their congregations. But Oyakhilome’s “power” is questionable—and it is spreading not only in eastern Europe but in many other parts of the world, including the United States. You may have never heard of Oyakhilome, but don’t be surprised if his programs soon appear on a Christian television station near you. The founder of a movement called Christ Embassy, which began in Lagos, Nigeria, Oyakhilome already has 16 churches in the U.S., mostly attracting African immigrants in cities such as Dallas, Houston, Washington, D.C., and Atlanta. He has 39 churches in the United Kingdom (where many Nigerians live) and 18 in Canada, and his daily devotional books called Rhapsody of Realities are supposedly available in 70 languages. Why is he so controversial? Consider a few facts: Nigerian Christians have long complained that Christ Embassy is a cult—mainly because members reportedly are forced to give money in offerings and are pressured to marry only within their church. Oyakhilome was accused of engineering a money laundering scheme in Nigeria in 2010, and questions swirl around his finances because of his glamorous lifestyle. Theologians and cult-monitoring groups have documented their concerns about Oyakhilome’s “New Creation” doctrine— a form of gnosticism that says after a person becomes a Christian, any sin they commit is only in the body and will not affect the spirit. Oyakhilome mixes this doctrine with a hybrid version of the American prosperity gospel, claiming that God wants all people to be rich. Oyakhilome’s reputation as a faith healer was tarnished badly in 2008 in Johannesburg when a man told a Soweto newspaper that Christ Embassy offered him more than $1,200 (U.S.) to sit in a wheelchair and pretend to be crippled until Oyakhilome prayed for him. The man went to the media instead of taking the money, sparking concerns that healings were being faked to impress growing crowds. Perhaps most disturbing is Oyakhilome’s connection with T.B. Joshua, a Nigerian occult healer who leads a mysterious group called The Synagogue, Church of All Nations. Joshua, who claims his mother carried him in her womb for 15 months because he was a special prophet, mixes Pentecostal fervor with pagan spirituality. After coming under Joshua’s influence a few years ago, Oyakhilome began copying some of his bizarre mannerisms. When I came to Romania last week I was surprised to learn how many Christians here had come under Oyakhilome’s influence. But as I did further research I found that Oyakhilome’s popularity is growing far beyond eastern Europe. Thanks to YouTube, Internet TV channels and a public that is often biblically illiterate, Christians today are as vulnerable as ever to religious impostors and deceptive con-artists. Jude, the brother of Jesus, warned us 2,000 years ago about such false prophets. “For certain persons have crept in unnoticed … ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ” (Jude 4, NASB). Paul also warned that people will demand false teachers to fulfill their lusts, and that those teachers will “turn away their ears from the truth” (2 Tim. 4:3-4). Those ancient words are painfully relevant today. Some Romanian church leaders have sounded an alarm. One of them, Ioan Peia, released a public warning in 2011 listing various false doctrines promoted by Oyakhilome. Peia urged Romanian church leaders to “repent and ask God’s forgiveness, and ask the forgiveness of our brothers, because we allowed a part of these teachings to be spread among us and through us.” I feel I must sound an alarm as well. As much as I want to see healing miracles restored to the church today, I’m not willing to fling open the door to deception. The devil can fake miracles, and if we don’t apply discernment in this vulnerable hour, impostors will sneak into the church and unleash their doctrines—with deadly results. Please don’t be duped by counterfeits. J. Lee Grady is the former editor of Charisma and the director of The Mordecai Project. You can follow him on Twitter @leegrady. www.charismamag.com/blogs/fire-in-my-bones/15366-false-prophets-foreign-charlatans-and-global-deception |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by WinsomeX: 9:27am On Apr 15, 2015 |
I did not see this article until this morning when someone suggested Google. This is a fellow Pentecostal calling Chris Oyakhilome's religion a cult. A fine summary of all I have been saying since I'm this thread. What do we have to say about this? CC: Joagbaje, Gombs, kenny4life, sammied, seedgreen and vooks. 1 Like |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by sammied(m): 10:17am On Apr 15, 2015 |
WinsomeX: I have known Lee Grady since I was 15years old.. And I have met him the last time he was in Nigeria. So... I am very familiar with him and I have read that article since last year. Am at work now. I will respond later since you have copied me. 1 Like |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by Gombs(m): 11:50am On Apr 15, 2015 |
WinsomeX: Well, that bloke wrote what he did in 2012, ROR was just about 70 languages, could you write him and say as of today, ROR is 565 languages and will be almost 650 by December. Could you write also that the churches in UK, US and Canada has increased by almost 300% since he wrote that piece? Tell him in fact, my friend is the head pastor CE Belgium (Yes, The whole Belgium). For your information, he is less than 30, and started the CE church in Belgium in 2013. You're almost 50 o...think about it. Keep writing and criticising, continue, while others take over nations for Christ. You're yet to win NL with your message self. Also write to him that Romania has more pastors under the tutelage of Pastor Chris, and that CE Romania is flourishing. Tell him this year alone, 10,000 ROR was distributed in Iraq, winning 3,000 to the Lord. Worthy of note was it was done with the partnership of 4 other churches; the apostolic, the Baptist, the Evangelical and the Nazareth Churches. Tell him, like you, Pastor Chris don't care what you write or will write or are writing... He's set on a course he wants to finish. Tell him, like you, his fellowship will suffer same fate as yours, solely because God will resist who ever speaks against His servants. Tell him Chris and Hinn he wrote about are waxing strong and great, doing the Lord's biddings. Tell him, I know he's almost bankrupt. All church critics end up broke... He's broke now, and like you'd say "there's nothing wrong in being poor, after all Jesus was poor and sick at a time" "it's God's will" etc. Have a great day. |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by Gombs(m): 12:34pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
PastorKun: Well, bet your life, and I'd gladly mail you copies of more than 50 of other languages, including IBO, Hausa, Yoruba, tiv, French,Spanish etc You think CE is a bunch of jokers who cannot make an anti tithe tract in 10months? Talkatives and underachievers are Pastor Chris' and other Men of God'smajor accusers, from WinsomeX and his band of misfits on NL to Lee Gardy to you etc. Watch them. |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by Gombs(m): 12:45pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
PastorKun: Is this the bet of your life? If yes, send me your address to mail them, or I will send pics of those using it in the country where the language is spoken. If you bet your life, let me know. Or better still... $3,000? Quote me if you're up for this. |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by vooks: 12:47pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
If only numbers=truth Gombs: |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by Gombs(m): 12:55pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
vooks: It's ok to disbelieve. Folks didn't believe Jesus even after he rose folks from the dead. |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by WinsomeX: 1:18pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
Gombs: I believe Gombs. Only that Jehovah Witnesses have done better you guys and it has not changed their status as cults. Like. vooks rightly said: numbers do not equal to truth. In fact by Jesus' premise, truth will walk a narrow road. 1 Like |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by Gombs(m): 1:52pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
WinsomeX: *Gently Humming [size=28pt]All Over the World[/size] [size=18pt]by Roy Turner[/size] All over the world the Spirit is moving All over the world as the prophet said it would be All over the world there's a mighty revelation Of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea *continues Humming i want to start a thread about miracles... i will uplod videos of amazing mircles by Pastor Chris. Stay tuned 1 Like |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by vooks: 2:06pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
Am agnostic about your numbers. What I mean is, numbers don't equal Truth; you could be the largest in EVERYTHING, including the mundane such as watching the least TV,having the longest urinals and the most toilets in your washrooms as CEC, but that don't mean you have the Truth. Gombs: |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by Gombs(m): 2:40pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
vooks: Have ye the truth? if 'Yes', what have you done with it? Jesus will ask you this someday. |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by Gombs(m): 3:08pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
PastorKun: and the bet?.. i didnt ask for your email... read again what i posted. |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by WinsomeX: 3:09pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
Gombs: As you work on that please tell us where Pastor Chris got his PHD from. Year, etc. When and how he became a Prof. |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by Kenny4lyfe(m): 3:21pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
WinsomeX: Your obsession if far beyond critical, it's chronic!
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Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by Gombs(m): 3:34pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
WinsomeX: to what end? I won't do that. You are free to reach whatever conclusions you want to. |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by Kenny4lyfe(m): 3:35pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
Gombs: Seconded 1 Like |
Re: The Christ Embassy Church Is A Cult by trustman: 4:08pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
Gombs:"28 Then they said to him, "What must we do, to be doing the works of God?" 29 Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent." (John 6) |
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