Only one of my numerous questions biko. Is that fair? All I am saying is simple, like IJ said in her piece, all tribes in Nigeria are tribalistic. Take it or leave it.

...Accept it or not. You are innately tribalistic.
So am I

Ngokafor:






...Oga what am i supposed to accept please?? ....you asked some questions about whether a non Igbo can win any elected position in the SE..which i simply responded to..so i am wondering what i am suppose to accept according to you..

Sunnybobo3:


Isn't it an indictment on you that all the places you mentioned are countries and not cities in those countries. Nigeria belongs to all Nigerians and therefore Lagos is for all Nigerians just as Onitsha is for all Nigerians. The Igbos who own properties in Lagos bought the land on which they built their properties and paid exorbitant prices at that. If a Yoruba man refuses or cannot afford to buy or build properties in the East, how is that the Igbo man's business?

If its a no mans land, why was the land paid for and who was the money paid to, an animal?

BTW, Dubai is not a country.

I read.
A paragraph should have been enough to make her point.

dafuturis:


If its a no mans land, why was the land paid for and who was the money paid to, an animal?

BTW, Dubai is not a country.

The saying Lagos is no man's land doesn't mean that nobody originally owns Lagos. That saying is as old as I can remember and was originally used to refer to Lagos as home for all.

Yes Dubai is not a country but an autonomous emirate.

This doesn't make sense. Is just like saying everybody steals so thief shouldn't be reprimanded. What the oba did was wrong because he has a large influence over people and should be more responsible.

disumusa:
pls tell me any tribe that igbos love

EXACTLY! Sorry to say they're just too self absorbed...... always thinking they work harder than every other tribe just because they dominate the commerce industry. As far as I am concerned this attitude of disrespecting other people's homeland did not start in lagos... that's a FACT#

Sometimes I wonder if the same hospitality they get in other parts of the country is reciprocated to other tribes in their region.

I love SOME of them cause they're blessed but I also don't hesitate to put them straight when they start displaying attitudes.

TS2:


Nice one my sister. You are deep. Waaaaay deeper than Chimamanda sef.

I had this discussion with someone on my way to work today but hey, you have put it in proper perspective.

Im not Yoruba but you know I think people have over exagerrated this issue and acted like there is no human angle to the story. The Oba or Obi or Emir of a land is also human and is fallible. Many of us that are not from Lagos have taken the acceptance and the general freedom we have to live and stay in Lagos for granted. But we need to give kudos to the Lagosians because if they want to be nuisances to us they can. It is not fair to call someone else's home no man's land.

You and the girl, who typed a thesis, missed the crux of Chimamanda's article.

Because of the Oba's position in society, he cannot afford to be fallible.

He's no longer a man, so to speak, but an institution.

It is said that a disease of the mind, no man can control it

homirefacuny:


Tribalism runs in your blood bro.....cos your sister married a Yoruba now....you refer to her wt all sort of acronyms? Grow up and get a life!!!

Point of correction, am not your bro and another point of correction, she is not my sister. Abi i dey owe u? Fu-ck off and the earlier we divide this country, the better we know where we all belong and stand. Imagine this bigot talking. Who u dey follow talk? If i get u, na machete I go take be your brother. bas-tard.

All because you are married to onye ofe mmanu, you've decided to 'spew rubbish' (borrowed from Governor-minister-elect Amechi).
Time will tell.

disumusa:
pls tell me any tribe that igbos love

They love all tribes.

PassingShot:


With due respect, I disagree with the bolded part of your post.

Tell me Igbos are industrious, I will agree. Tell me they are adventurous, I will agree. But tell me they're relatively peaceful, it is a hell "NO".

If they are not peaceful then which tribe is peaceful. Which tribe is saint here!

angelawoko:



https://blogs.premiumtimesng.com/?p=167322

THE MOST SENSIBLE THING I HAVE READ ON THIS TOPIC SO FAR. I AM A YORUBA PERSON AND HAVE GREAT IGBO FRIENDS. WE ARE HAPPY TO BE TOGETHER AND WE LOVE EACH OTHER. I HAVE EMPLOYED MANY IGBOS AND I LOVE THEIR TENACITY AND PASSION. I WOULD HOWEVER NOT AGREE WITH THAT ASSERTION THAT LAGOS IS 'NO MAN'S LAND'. THAT IS A TERRIBLE THING TO SAY. WHILE I DO NOT SUPPORT THE OBA, I STILL THINK THAT THE ORIGINATORS OF THAT ASSERTION STARTED IT ALL.

GOOD A THING, MANY REASONABLE IGBOS HAVE ATTEMPTED TO MAKE THEIR KINSMEN REASON AND TO TELL THEM THEY HAVE NO REASONS TO TAKE A QUARREL AGAINST YORUBAS.

I MUST SAY THAT I FELT A BIT DISAPPOINTED READING FROM CHINAMANDA AND IT SEEMS SHE ALSO TRIED TO RE-WRITE THE SOUTH WEST STORY. ALL TRIBES WILL LIVE AND PLAY TOGETHER IN LAGOS, BUT LET NO ONE TALK ABOUT 'TAKING OVER'. THAT WONT AUGUR WELL.

I ALSO THINK THAT IT IS AN INSULT ON YORUBAS FOR ANY GROUP TO HAVE ACCUSED THEM OF TEAMING UP WITH 'NOTHERNERS' TO WIN THE ELECTION FOR BUHARI. FIRST, YORUBAS WILL NEVER TALK ABOUT BLOCK VOTES ON TRIBAL LINES. IF YOU DOUBT THAT, JUST SEE THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTIONS. SECOND, WHY SHOULD YOU BLAME A PERSON FOR HIS OWN CHOICES? THE WINNER TAKES ALL MENTALITY IN NIGERIA NOW MAKES IT LOOK LIKE SW AND NORTH HAVE WON! THE REACTION FROM SE (NOT SO MUCH EVEN FROM SS WHERE GEJ COMES FROM) NOW SEEMS TO HAVE PUT PEPPER ON THE WHOLE THING. WHY NOT PUT THAT BEHIND AND MOVE ON? WHY ARE SOME PEOPLE BENT ON SPREADING HATRED AND DIVISION AS IF THAT WILL PUT FOOD ON YOUR TABLE?

THE TRUTH THEN IS, IGBOS NEED TO LOOK AWAY FROM OBA OF LAGOS, AND FIND A WAY TO SPEAK TO THEMSELVES. THAT IS WHAT I THINK. I MAY BE WRONG. I LOVE MY IGBO BROTHERS. I LOVE ONE NIGERIA. WHEN I START TO FEEL, SOME OF MY BROTHERS DO NOT LOVE ME, I AM AT A LOSS ON WHAT TO DO.

DEAR SISTER, THANKS AGAIN FOR WRITING THIS. I AM A LOVER OF IGBO CULTURE. IGBOS ARE GOOD PEOPLE. LET US NOT ALLOW HATERS TO SPEAK FOR US!

omoharry:
Then I believe Anambra, Onisha , Enugu,Abia and some other Igbo commercial State are no mans land too, since All Nigerians from all ethnic group reside there.... I am from the Niger Delta....I will not support what is bad... please... do not do in another man land what you know you would never stand or tolerate in your own land... please. You are free to travel to Lagos since you are a Nigerian, work and pay to your tax since you reside there... build your house there since you are equally a citizen of the country and other right given to us as a citizens to leave freely in all state of the federation but that should not give you the right tell the indigenes of Lagos that its a no man land... by doing that you are bound to steer up bitterness among Locals of the state...election is over stop all this madness please

Nice one!

waternogetemeny:



Point of correction, am not your bro and another point of correction, she is not my sister. Abi i dey owe u? Fu-ck off and the earlier we divide this country, the better we know where we all belong and stand. Imagine this bigot talking. Who u dey follow talk? If i get u, na machete I go take be your brother. bas-tard.

If you look closely......you are the only one on this thread ranting and bluffing....Your forefathers tried their best to divide this country .....what is the result? Ask yourself and be mentally stable when posting a comment as to which one make sense......Retard.

When did tribalism become a bad thing Why do these delusional folks like to spew nonsense? Do you wish cultures to die, heritage to be lost, history to be forgotten, traditions to be displaced for some imaginary "One Nigerian Identity"

I am Yoruba by what my creator made me, the British made me Nigerian...so it's Yoruba all the way and Nigeria comes second

We must safeguard our identity, does a typical Hausa man want to lose the Hausa language and adopt some imaginary "Nigerian language"

Unless all ethnicities are willing to stop being different ethnicities and become "One Nigeria" there would always be tribalism...Ethnic Bigotry is the problem but tribalism

Unless All Languages spoken within this Nigerian boarder can go extinct and all does speak "Nigerian" there would always be tribalism

Unless we all forget our history and remember only what we have from 1914, there would always be tribalism


Stop Deceiving yourselves!

homirefacuny:


If you look closely......you are the only one on this thread ranting and bluffing....Your forefathers tried their best to divide this country .....what is the result? Ask yourself and be mentally stable when posting a comment as to which one make sense......Retard.

Again, u need to stop quoting as u are totally empty and devoid of reason. If not for the good heart of my fore fathers their wouldnt be a Nigeria in the first place.

1) Igbos fought with the colonialist to liberate Nigeria even wen the Northerners wanted to remain under colonial rule.


2) They believed so much in the black african brotherhood that whilst the north wanted to leave, it was Nnamdi Azikiwe that offered them a majority in the parliament of the first republic that enabled them not to go and create a Northerrn Republic of Nigeria.



3) The 1950 masacre of Igbos in Kaduna even before Independence was done by Northerners without any provocation.


4) Nnamdi Azikiwe won an election free and square but your yoruba people and the North started cross carpeting, prompting the first coup in Nigeria history that featured igbos and yoruba officers.

5) Hatred in Nigeria for other tribes was started by The Sadaruna and Awolowo go view the videos on youtube and recently Oba of Lagos


6) Even after the coup carried out by the North, they wanted t leave but was persuaded to stay by the oil in the East.


7)The pogrom of Ndiigbo and mutiny in the Army followed by attack on Cross River led to Ojukwu invasion of the midwest


The Abori Accord was a compromise to create confederation that Gowon agreed but did not enforce.


9) Awolowo policy of starvation killed 3million people during the biafra war.


10) Instead of a marshal plan, Awolowo gave Ndiigbo #20 from all the money in their bank account. Wat did he do with the rest?


11) Igbos invest and explore all regions in this country but are threatened with death and eviction in the so called one Nigeria


I can go on and the list is endless. My point here is that Igbos are actually far more Nigerian than u all. Dont disturb me again.I dont like your kind for very good reason and u will do well to avoid everything that comes from me or that belongs to me including my sisters.


I have warned u, dont quote me again.

Someone was trying to reply Chimamanda? She should have understood Adichie's reasons. Her point was that such a remark carries serious meaning coming from a revered stool.
The write up was boring

You don't get it miss whatever is your name?

waternogetemeny:



Again, u need to stop quoting as u are totally empty and devoid of reason. If not for the good heart of my fore fathers their wouldnt be a Nigeria in the first place.

1) Igbos fought with the colonialist to liberate Nigeria even wen the Northerners wanted to remain under colonial rule.


2) They believed so much in the black african brotherhood that whilst the north wanted to leave, it was Nnamdi Azikiwe that offered them a majority in the parliament of the first republic that enabled them not to go and create a Northerrn Republic of Nigeria.



3) The 1950 masacre of Igbos in Kaduna even before Independence was done by Northerners without any provocation.


4) Nnamdi Azikiwe won an election free and square but your yoruba people and the North started cross carpeting.

5) Hatred in Nigeria for other tribes was started by The Sadaruna and Awolowo go view the videos on youtube and recently Oba of Lagos


6) Even after the coup carried out by the North, they wanted t leave but was persuaded to stay by the oil in the East.


7)The pogrom of Ndiigbo and mutiny in the Army followed by attack on Cross River led to Ojukwu invasion of the midwest


The Abori Accord was a compromise to create confederation that Gowon agreed but did not enforce.


9Awo policy killed 3million people during the biafra war.


10) Instead of a marshal plan, they gave Ndiigbo #20 from all the money in their account.


11) Igbos invest and explore all regions in this country but are threatened with death and eviction in the so called one Nigeria


I can go on and the list is endless. My point here is that Igbos are actually far more Nigerian than u all. Dont disturb me again.I dont like your kind for very good reason and u will do well to avoid everything that comes from me or that belongs to me including my sister.


I have warned u, dont quote me again.

Lols.....I can understand how you feel. As long as there is 'Nigeria'.....admit it or not, you are my bro irrespective of where you hail from. Why can't you erase all the division and separation thoughts off your mind and move on. I never meant to abuse you in anyway ....but you calling your sister's husband bigot is somehow appalling to me. Don't wanna exchange words wt you on the basis of ethnicity. Sorry for quoting you.

PassingShot:


With due respect, I disagree with the bolded part of your post.

Tell me Igbos are industrious, I will agree. Tell me they are adventurous, I will agree. But tell me they're relatively peaceful, it is a hell "NO".

You are very wrong. Igbos are peaceful, they only shun intimmidation irrespective of where they found themselves. An average Igbo man wouldn't want you to intimmidate him whether he is in your living room. And of course, Yorubas would always want to oppress you owing to the fact that he/she "accommodates"(in their word) you. So since an Igbo man wil always resist the intimmidation with every living of his being, Igbos are labelled "problem child".

We believe that nothing whatsover, not even your so called accommodation is cost our right as Nigerians.

I am however not a party to Lagos being no man's land. Of course I won't be happy if a Yoruba man tells me that in Igboland. But then, staying in any part of Nigeria SHOULD NOT reduce an inch, my legitimate right.

IGBOS ARE "PROBLEM CHILD" CAUSE THEY SHUN INTIMMIDATION!

Jk210:

Probably. It appears bragging and chest-beating are a way of life amongst Igbo's.

I was watching an Igbo movie the other day. Uche Ogbodo insulting a guy who was chyking her. Burú carton gi'a puo m nuzo (referring to the guys Honda hala) damn hilarious. Out of the 10 sentences she made 9 were laced with insults. Igbo to Igbo its cool (Ima njakiri) But to other tribes its offensive.

The other day it was Igbo's protesting in an Indian suburb. Same thing in South Africa. I think its time our Eastern brothers did a soul search. There must be something fundamentally wrong.

This is not to paint the whole tribe with the same brush though. There are well meaning people amongst them

LOL

Where are you from?

My sister here, Ijeoma did not read Chimamanda's take on the Oba's unparatable dish to Igbos with good understanding. Like she pointed out rightly, there is this tribal mentality in every Nigerian. So obviously, she went through that write up from Chimamanda with the Igbo-Yoruba mentality(the both put together), which of course is deadlier. And that denied her the massage imbeded in that piece.

Chimamanda in that write up condemned the oba for cooking out such an inciteful statement, and she also kicked against those who dismiss the Oba's killer-massage on the ground that we are all tribalistic. She sited similar actions and reactions preceding the 70s genocide on Igboland, and expressed fear of the danger the Oba threat potends. So y u say she no talk well nah!

angelawoko:



https://blogs.premiumtimesng.com/?p=167322

Truce! but I agree partly with macof, Tribalism will still be a thorn in the flesh of Nigerians except we speak and uphold a unifying language...more like what we have in modern day Europe,Asia and the Americas

EUROBOMBER:


Very wrong!

Very right! I can't stand that bitch. Justifying gayism just to be accepted among Americans

haibe:


don't you still get the point? So because he is popular you then put what is said on your head? When several Igbo masses threaten yorubas in igbo land and nothing is said about it; simply because they are not popular.

It's in the Nigeria blood.. TRIBALISM... igbos hausas, yourubas are guilty. Let's stop the hypocrisy of accusing just the oba and forgetting what our own house does

I honestly think that you are the one not getting the point here.
The Oba is not just popular but a royal father whose words should be law. I respect him and respect his office but when he untactfully makes a mistake that affects the peace of millions, he should come off his high horse and pacify the people so affected SIMPLE.

I don't get it though.

FFK says something, Igbo men reply him.


The Oba of Lagos says something, Igbo women respond.

Am I missing things here?

waternogetemeny:



Again, u need to stop quoting as u are totally empty and devoid of reason. If not for the good heart of my fore fathers their wouldnt be a Nigeria in the first place.

1) Igbos fought with the colonialist to liberate Nigeria even wen the Northerners wanted to remain under colonial rule.


2) They believed so much in the black african brotherhood that whilst the north wanted to leave, it was Nnamdi Azikiwe that offered them a majority in the parliament of the first republic that enabled them not to go and create a Northerrn Republic of Nigeria.



3) The 1950 masacre of Igbos in Kaduna even before Independence was done by Northerners without any provocation.


4) Nnamdi Azikiwe won an election free and square but your yoruba people and the North started cross carpeting, prompting the first coup in Nigeria history that featured igbos and yoruba officers.

5) Hatred in Nigeria for other tribes was started by The Sadaruna and Awolowo go view the videos on youtube and recently Oba of Lagos


6) Even after the coup carried out by the North, they wanted t leave but was persuaded to stay by the oil in the East.


7)The pogrom of Ndiigbo and mutiny in the Army followed by attack on Cross River led to Ojukwu invasion of the midwest


The Abori Accord was a compromise to create confederation that Gowon agreed but did not enforce.


9) Awolowo policy of starvation killed 3million people during the biafra war.


10) Instead of a marshal plan, Awolowo gave Ndiigbo #20 from all the money in their bank account. Wat did he do with the rest?


11) Igbos invest and explore all regions in this country but are threatened with death and eviction in the so called one Nigeria


I can go on and the list is endless. My point here is that Igbos are actually far more Nigerian than u all. Dont disturb me again.I dont like your kind for very good reason and u will do well to avoid everything that comes from me or that belongs to me including my sisters.


I have warned u, dont quote me again.

You too much bro. Your argument is based on facts, not some sort of bling argument.

Ximenes45:

Truce! but I agree partly with macof, Tribalism will still be a thorn in the flesh of Nigerians except we speak and uphold a unifying language...more like what we have in modern day Europe,Asia and the Americas

How many are willing to let go of their ethnic identity and adopt something imaginary

Except the fact that he didn't remember to write that Awolowo didn't interfere in said war until Dim invaded Ore and was matching towards Lagos.

CORRECTMAN78:


You too much bro. Your argument is based on facts, not some sort of bling argument.

angelawoko:



https://blogs.premiumtimesng.com/?p=167322

Igbo's are fond of wanting to dominate everywhere and when they are denied they cry foul. Pls how many non-indigenes are Local government councillors in any south east state. Pls tell me. I support the Oba's statement. I live in Enugu, am from the South South and I know I have to tread softly and respect the culture of the Enugu people and that has brought mutual coexistence. How can u call people's ancestral home a no man's land?

toprealman:
All because you are married to onye Yoruba

you should know there is more involved than that.

Sunnybobo3:


The saying Lagos is no man's land doesn't mean that nobody originally owns Lagos. That saying is as old as I can remember and was originally used to refer to Lagos as home for all.

Yes Dubai is not a country but an autonomous emirate.

Good!!

So help tell your brothers(Igbos) that Lagos has original owner just as Calabar, Abuja, Onitsha et al has Original owners.

God bless our coexistence