MikeCZAR:
Nothing wrong with being trained by them.

The point was that a US News Network was trying to make a connection between the NN-SBS and a great US institution (the Navy SEALs.)

NN-SBS has trained with many different nations and forces including the US, the Brits, the Pakistanis and of cause, the Nigerian Army.

Nigerian Air Force

Senegalese Army commandos

Henry120:
army

Are these guys troops of d NA? If yes,pls what unit n what r d details of d training?

Henry120:
army

I love this
That is what an African army in the 21st century looks like.....
#Salutes

horlams:

Are these guys troops of d NA? If yes,pls what unit n what r d details of d training?

Nope. Senegalese Army commandos.

gottfried21:

I love this
That is what an African army in the 21st century looks like.....
#Salutes

Sadly, that's not the case. Spending 20,000 dollars per soldier is just not feasible.

Henry120:


Nope. Senegalese Army commandos.

Thanks.

rooivalk

Rooivalk, in its war guise.

Pic 1: The hills and jungles of the DRC hold some interesting things;

Pic 2: Hard to believe the Ukrainians are still here, with everything going on in their country.

Tanzanian Army S.F in the eastern DRC with a Negev LMG.

Along with Tanzania, Kenya and Cameroun also use the Negev LMG.

frumentius:
Pic 1: The hills and jungles of the DRC hold some interesting things;

Pic 2: Hard to believe the Ukrainians are still here, with everything going on in their country.

The Ukrainians badly need that money, so they can afford to have their pilots and Helicopters on UN missions.

Besides, why send Helicopters and Pilots to a conflict, when you know they are going to get shot down anyway......... They are safer in the DRC, Sudan and Liberia.

Nigeria COIN N.E

Henry120:


The Ukrainians badly need that money, so they can afford to have their pilots and Helicopters on UN missions.

Besides, why send Helicopters and Pilots to a conflict, when you know they are going to get shot down anyway......... They are safer in the DRC, Sudan and Liberia.

Actually, the Ukrainian heli pilots in the DRC were the first to be recalled home - they had the most combat experience in their airforce when the conflict erupted. I don't know about Liberia, but with people shooting at you, DRC and Sudan are no sinecure.

You're aware that the UN re-imburses after the deployment - which is no longer 6 months but a full year? Which means contributing countries commit troops and materiel for a full year out of their own budgets, and only get funds back later. And only after certain conditions are met, for example, all your equipment must be 85% operationally functional at all times, else you incur penalties.

frumentius:
Rooivalk, in its war guise.

Beautiful,but jst too expensive...$40M,damn!

frumentius:


Actually, the Ukrainian heli pilots in the DRC were the first to be recalled home - they had the most combat experience in their airforce when the conflict erupted. I don't know about Liberia, but with people shooting at you, DRC and Sudan are no sinecure.

You're aware that the UN re-imburses after the deployment - which is no longer 6 months but a full year? Which means contributing countries commit troops and materiel for a full year out of their own budgets, and only get funds back later. And only after certain conditions are met, for example, all your equipment must be 85% operationally functional at all times, else you incur penalties.

The Rule on deployment of assets can be bent. I remember South-Africa wanted/negotiated down payments before the Rooivalk and medium lifts were deployed in the DRC.

Henry120:


The Rule on deployment of assets can be bent. I remember South-Africa wanted/negotiated down payments before the Rooivalk and medium lifts were deployed in the DRC.

You're mistaken. UN DPKO specifically requested Rooivalk after Battle of Kibati because they were dissatisfied with the performance of the Ukrainian and Congolese Hinds. SA then correctly, insisted on payment up-front as this was a post-deployment request which hadn't been budgeted for.

Don't know where you get the medium airlift part as the C-130s are always part of any SA deployment. How else do you think supply runs are conducted?

horlams:

Beautiful,but jst too expensive...$40M,damn!

True. But that price reflects the cost of the 12 that were ordered. A sizeable order would bring the price down drastically and with Denel saying 100 to re-open production, I seriously doubt future airframes.

Henry120:
Tanzanian Army S.F in the eastern DRC with a Negev LMG.

Nope. Regular Tanzo infrantry.

frumentius:


You're mistaken. UN DPKO specifically requested Rooivalk after Battle of Kibati because they were dissatisfied with the performance of the Ukrainian and Congolese Hinds. SA then correctly, insisted on payment up-front as this was a post-deployment request which hadn't been budgeted for.

Don't know where you get the medium airlift part as the C-130s are always part of any SA deployment. How else do you think supply runs are conducted?

I was referring to the medium lift oryx Helicopter, not C-130s.

On the Rooivalk deployment, that's now clear.

frumentius:

Nope. Regular Tanzo infrantry.

Regular Tanzanians Infantry now field Negev and Galil ACE?

I know regular troops use the AK-47 and RPK.

Tanzanian Army

Henry120:


I was referring to the medium lift oryx Helicopter, not C-130s.

Still mistaken. SA has always had 5-6 Oryx in the DRC right from the first deployment in the peace-keeping MONUC.

Henry120:


Regular Tanzanians Infantry now field Negev and Galil ACE?

I know regular troops use the AK-47 and RPK.

In your original pic, the guy with the LMG is regular infantry; his mate on the right with the Galil ACE is SF.

sorry for derailing...

But south africans are the most lazy and annoying people..
how i wish aparthied days can return to that cursed god forsaken mix raced country.

can you imagine what they did to a Nigerian citizen.

Nigerian Air Force

frumentius:


Actually, the Ukrainian heli pilots in the DRC were the first to be recalled home - they had the most combat experience in their airforce when the conflict erupted. I don't know about Liberia, but with people shooting at you, DRC and Sudan are no sinecure.

You're aware that the UN re-imburses after the deployment - which is no longer 6 months but a full year? Which means contributing countries commit troops and materiel for a full year out of their own budgets, and only get funds back later. And only after certain conditions are met, for example, all your equipment must be 85% operationally functional at all times, else you incur penalties.

I remember when Kenya joined AMISOM, during the negotiation, the UN had refused to include Naval assets to the Somali mission, kenya had spent 10million dollars in 1year for the navy alone http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1615192/-/xatqbez/-/index.html I still don't know if the current re-reimbursements include the navy. for the rest of air and ground troops KDF spends on average 43 million dollars per six months

frumentius:

True. But that price reflects the cost of the 12 that were ordered. A sizeable order would bring the price down drastically and with Denel saying 100 to re-open production, I seriously doubt future airframes.

I suspect a further development of the current MK 1 airframes.

denisfidha:


I remember when Kenya joined AMISOM, during the negotiation, the UN had refused to include Naval assets to the Somali mission, kenya had spent 10million dollars in 1year for the navy alone http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/1615192/-/xatqbez/-/index.html I still don't know if the current re-reimbursements include the navy. for the rest of air and ground troops KDF spends on average 43 million dollars per six months

Depends on the naval ship. If you bring a few patrol boats(think armerd speed boats) think the organization should cover them. But any naval ship bigger enough for a name should be a separate issue. They cost a lot to keep at 85% readiness and a simple issue can render them non opernal.

south africa : Anti immigrant violence

I all ways run in to issues when posting pics from defenceweb. Here is the source so others can maybe do it.
http://defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_joomgallery&func=viewcategory&catid=126&Itemid=136