Claims of jews and reasons they don't believe in Jesus



Bea Malyeke
xtians n muslims - know your god & your holy prophet
& read txt below if you love this piece of shit jewish
bastard named jesus. do not just worship this bastard or
revere him
at 12, already a murderer, killing his own playmate.
jesus, esau , yahesua, isa, as what he is known.
the jews say he is a bastard. his mother is jewish
LovePeddler, according to the jews in their holy book talmud
his father is an unknown jewish roman centurion.
not much was known abt him until he appeared to the
multitudes when he turned 30, accompanied by his 13
faithful followers. his ritual circumcision was recorded
in the bible. his step father was a carpenter where he
learned the trade. when he was around 12 years, he
killed his own friend by pushing him off a tree branch
but this event was not recorded in the bible. his life
event was recorded when he appeared at the age of 30
his teen years was never recorded. in his early 20s he
met a jewish prostitute named maria magdalina @ mary
magdalene. both of them used to escape the crowd's
eyes by hiding in the caves in the country side in the
wildernest. their relationship resulted in the birth of an
illegitimate son, judah.
john the baptist, who was also his cousin, knew about
his secret relationship with that prostitute but kept the
knowledge to himself. he often visited them in the
wilderness. that explained why john used to stay in the
wilderness.
he never claimed he was god, not even in the bible. it
was the xtians who claim him as god.
the jews despise him - as a bastard
the muslims revere him -as a prophet
the xtians worship him - as a god, but associate him
with the god of abraham. the association of jesus & the
god of abraham with the addtion of the holy spirit
turned into the most complex & absurd making him both
the son & father of himself! not only that, he become
the creator of his own mother - that's total madness.
xtians justify this madness & absurdity with the
introduction of faith. they argue with the most stupid
circular reasoning that god is so powerful he can be
anything!
madness in xtianity:
#1 jesus is god in human flesh. first of all why would
god needs to be in human flesh? he could have mixed
and lived among human without having to be a parasite,
living in the flesh of his own creation. after all he could
do or be anything. what's his reason to be among his
creation?
#2 jesus died for the sins of mankind. if god is so
powerful, why can't he just forgive without having to let
this poor bastard to suffer and died a painful death? if
for the sake of arguement, this poor bastard died for
the sins of mankind, why must xtians especially, need to
repent again? since someone had died for their sins,
they need not worry anymore . they have license to
commit all kind of sins since this poor bastard had
already died in advance for their sins. take for example
a man had paid a hotel room in advance for his family,
does his family need to pay for the room again? of
course his family can stay in the room for free since it
had been paid in advance.
#3 xtians claim there is only 1 god & jesus is god & he
is the son of god.
no xtian in the whole planet for the past 2000 years can
explain this madness. they will just simply say jesus is
god manifested in him - in other word god is in human
form. ok, for argument sake, god really comes in human
form, but why did jesus pray to god since god in him.
secondly if god turned himself as jesus or lived in jesus
flesh, then who was the one that jesus prayed to ?
put it in a simpler way - if a monkey decides to live in
the flesh of a donkey, surely this monkey will not exist
as a monkey since he is in the flesh of this donkey. this
donkey & monkey are one . if u see a donkey means u
already see the monkey
these are just a few example of madness in xtianity.
another interesting and funny characteristic of the xtians
which is very hilarious. anyone who argues with the
xtians, they will start blaming the muslims even if the
person is not a muslim. so, if i want to curse islam, all
i need to do is tell a xtian jesus is a bastard!!!
moral of the story - make the xtians angry, they will
curse the muslim & islam ! isnt that hilarious.
whatever it is, i fully believe jesus is a bastard
note: a bastard accordingly means anyone who is borned
out of wedlock. another meaning is a woman who is
pregnant before marrying the child's father.
why are the xtians taking offense if jesus is a bastard
or not. afterall most of us are bastards, especially
among the xtians themselves
in jesus case, he should be better known as a piece of
shit
i challenge all the xtians & muslims to refute me this
piece of shit named jesus is a bastard.
for those muslims who think jesus of the bible is the
same as isa in their koran, its time that you and the
xtians coorperate and refute me.

Jesus christ that was good lol well put together "rock on" .

What would you expect to happen? These people were the ones that were influenced by Pharisees who hated and envied Jesus. They manifested this to Him calling Him an agent of Beelzebub, One born of fornication etc. It's all over the Gospels and Acts. These same people are the ones that bribed the soldiers and established a lie which the Jews still hold today! This is still done by those who hate Him today! Besides, these were the same people that claimed that , as for this Fellow (referring to Jesus) we know not from whence He is John 9:29 and then turn around to write His life's story! The Jesus I know is the One that astonished doctors of the law with His understanding at age 12.

Op,


I thought you're a follower of Muhammad's?

simple write up, you no understand... that write up is a jew view of Jesus.





what am trying to say is that that's the same way you Christians hate Prophet Muhammad


jews hate jesus and tell lies about him
Christians hate Prophet Muhammad and tell lies about him


Muslims never insult Jesus nor moses nor Prophet Muhammad




you guys are making the same mistake the jews made about Jesus with Prophet Muhammad

You need to realize that no real Christian hates simply because he has been transformed by Grace! Not all who comments with expletives against your religion or it's founder is a Christian. Personally I'm yet to see any command in the New testament encouraging such. The best is to declare the truth as I know it or write a balanced , factual apologetics where I believe you or any other are raising issues which I believe contradicts the view given by the Bible from a holistic perspective.

you Muslims always claims to love Jesus... which Jesus? the Christ or Barnabas the criminal?

Scholar8200:
You need to realize that no real Christian hates simply because he has been transformed by Grace! Not all who comments with expletives against your religion or it's founder is a Christian. Personally I'm yet to see any command in the New testament encouraging such. The best is to declare the truth as I know it or write a balanced , factual apologetics where I believe you or any other are raising issues which I believe contradicts the view given by the Bible from a holistic perspective.

you want to tell me Christians don't hate muslims and Islam? you can say you don't hate.. many i have had dialogue with never understand Islam and Muslim and even they intentionally lie against Quran and even Prophet Muhammad

RapLawd:
you Muslims always claims to love Jesus... which Jesus? the Christ or Barnabas the criminal?

you think we are playing here?

shahydbinaliyu:



you want to tell me Christians don't hate muslims and Islam? you can say you don't hate.. many i have had dialogue with never understand Islam and Muslim and even they intentionally lie against Quran and even Prophet Muhammad

Note that I said - real Christian.

See first century Christians loved even their persecutors (the Jews and others) eg Paul who was stoned, scourged, misrepresented by the Jews etc still expressed his burden of heart to see these same people saved and even expressed the desire to be sent to hell for their sake Romans 9:1,2; Romans 10:1,2 (Consider that this was coming from one who was once the 'Shekau' of his time till he met Christ and was transformed!) !!!

Stephen while being stoned to death called upon the Lord to forgive his executors Acts 7:58 - 60 etc

Brother these, and many more which cant be here mentioned, are real Christians!

Sorry for the digression above. Like I said before, the best a Christian can do is to declare the truth from a biblical, holistic perspective. Insults and vitriolic vituperations against people or their religion are alien to the true Christian faith I know.

believe whatever works for you.

as for me;

prophet Muhammad is a fúcking pervert.

moses is a fúcking murderer and a sadist.


Jesus on the other hand is perfect.


these statements are valid if and only if the stories in the Jewish manuscripts, new testament bible and the Arab piece of shít are true.

Scholar8200:
Note that I said - real Christian.

See first century Christians loved even their persecutors (the Jews and others) eg Paul who was stoned, scourged, misrepresented by the Jews etc still expressed his burden of heart to see these same people saved and even expressed the desire to be sent to hell for their sake Romans 9:1,2; Romans 10:1,2 (Consider that this was coming from one who was once the 'Shekau' of his time till he met Christ and was transformed!) !!!

Stephen while being stoned to death called upon the Lord to forgive his executors Acts 7:58 - 60 etc

Brother these, and many more which cant be here mentioned, are real Christians!

Sorry for the digression above. Like I said before, the best a Christian can do is to declare the truth from a biblical, holistic perspective. Insults and vitriolic vituperations against people or their religion are alien to the true Christian faith I know.

atlast.. i. met a sane reasonable Christian... drop your number let me add you to whatsapp religious group

shahydbinaliyu:
atlast.. i. met a sane reasonable Christian... drop your number let me add you to whatsapp religious group

I'd have loved to but I'm not on Whatsapp: nokia c1 does not work with the app.

Scholar8200:
I'd have loved to but I'm not on Whatsapp: nokia c1 does not work with the app.

oohk... have you ever read Aramaic Bible?

shahydbinaliyu:



oohk... have you ever read Aramaic Bible?

No.

Scholar8200:
No.

do your research on it and find the truth.. may Allah help you see the truth

When last did this child of terrorists visit his psychiatrist? !

shahydbinaliyu:



do your research on it and find the truth.. may Allah help you see the truth

I have found The Truth already! Jesus said,"I Am The WAY, The TRUTH and The LIFE, no man comes to the Father but by ME" John 14:6 Of course this happened by the leading of The Spirit of Truth Whom Jesus said will come after His Ascension and urged the disciples to wait for in Jerusalem John 15:26, Luke 24:49, Acts 1:8

Scholar8200:
I have found The Truth already! Jesus said,"I Am The WAY, The TRUTH and The LIFE, no man comes to the Father but by ME" John 14:6 Of course this happened by the leading of The Spirit of Truth Whom Jesus said will come after His Ascension and urged the disciples to wait for in Jerusalem John 15:26, Luke 24:49, Acts 1:8

i don't dispute that... Jesus is prophet of Allah.

Am The WAY, The TRUTH and The LIFE, no man comes to the Father but by ME" John 14:6 Of course this happened by the leading of The Spirit of Truth Whom Jesus said will come after His Ascension and urged the disciples to wait for in Jerusalem John 15:26, Luke 24:49, Acts 1:8

just like Jesus is the way, truth and the life is every other prophet too.. that verse acclaim every Prophet.

or do you want to say moses isn't the way, truth and the life?

Jesus himself said he's a Prophet of Allah


bro.. read Aramaic Bible... know the original scripture in which bible In English was intentionally misinterpreted...

there by yourself knowing the truth

kay1one2:
When last did this child of terrorists visit his psychiatrist? !

talking to me?

shahydbinaliyu:



i don't dispute that... Jesus is prophet of Allah.

Am The WAY, The TRUTH and The LIFE, no man comes to the Father but by ME" John 14:6 Of course this happened by the leading of The Spirit of Truth Whom Jesus said will come after His Ascension and urged the disciples to wait for in Jerusalem John 15:26, Luke 24:49, Acts 1:8

just like Jesus is the way, truth and the life is every other prophet too.. that verse acclaim every Prophet.

or do you want to say moses isn't the way, truth and the life?

Jesus himself said he's a Prophet of Allah


bro.. read Aramaic Bible... know the original scripture in which bible In English was intentionally misinterpreted...

there by yourself knowing the truth

Do you have scriptural quotes to back these affirmations? Neither Moses or any other prophet ever said so!

Even John the baptist declared John 1:30," This is He of Whom I said, After me comes a Man which is preferred before me ; for He was before me." John 3:30,31,36"He must increase but I must decrease. He that comes from above is above ALL . . . he that believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life"

In fact, Moses and the prophets prophesied of Him.

Scholar8200:

Do you have scriptural quotes to back these affirmations? Neither Moses or any other prophet ever said so!

Even John the baptist declared John 1:30," This is He of Whom I said, After me comes a Man which is preferred before me ; for He was before me." John 3:30,31,36"He must increase but I must decrease. He that comes from above is above ALL . . . he that believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life"

In fact, Moses and the prophets prophesied of Him.

Matthew 13:57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.
Luke 24:19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:
Matthew 21:11 And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.
Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Jesus called himself Prophet and servant of God.. in those verses..


yeah.. moses and other prophets prophesied him just like Prophet Muhammad was prophesied In Bible... abi you want me to quote more Bible verses for you about Prophet Muhammad?

shahydbinaliyu:

Matthew 13:57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.

This was just like quoting a common saying/proverb applicable to Him at that time. Of course we wont say He was also a Physician because He said Luke4:23,"you will surely say unto Me, Physician heal your self" Both are proverbs.

Luke 24:19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:

opinion of the two men discussing after His Resurrection.

Matthew 21:11 And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.

note that the multitude said this- their opinion,

Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

This verse does not say He is a prophet! Rev 19:11,13"and I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True . . .and His Name is called the Word of God" Revelation 1:5,8,"and from Jesus Christ,...the Prince of the Kings of the earth. Unto Him that loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood" John 13: 13 " If I then your Master and Lord..."

No prophet shares any of those. Note that the initial post on John the baptist was used because He was the greatest of the prophets and Moses was the lawgiver.

Scholar8200:
This was just like quoting a common saying/proverb applicable to Him at that time. Of course we wont say He was also a Physician because He said Luke4:23,"you will surely say unto Me, Physician heal your self" Both are proverbs.

opinion of the two men discussing after His Resurrection.

note that the multitude said this- their opinion,

This verse does not say He is a prophet! Rev 19:11,13"and I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True . . .and His Name is called the Word of God" Revelation 1:5,8,"and from Jesus Christ,...the Prince of the Kings of the earth. Unto Him that loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood" John 13: 13 " If I then your Master and Lord..."

No prophet shares any of those. Note that the initial post on John the baptist was used because He was the greatest of the prophets and Moses was the lawgiver.

so your point is that Jesus is not a prophet of God abi

Jesus said it himself that he's fellow servant like us .... and you insist he's not

Revelation 19:10-11 from Aramaic Bible (Original Bible)


10. And I fell at his feet to worship him, and he said to me,
"Look! No! I am your companion [in service] and of your
brothers, those who possess* the testimony of Eashoa.
Worship Allaha, for that testimony of Eashoa is the spirit*
of prophecy."

Eashoa is Jesus real name... bible translators translate his name as Jesus


11. And I saw heaven opened
...and behold the white horse,
And the one seated on it,
...[who is] called: "Faithful and True,"
And [who] judges and wages war
...through his righteousness.


faithful and true.. that's Prophet Muhammad...

White Horse and one seated on it.. is synonymous with the burak stead (white creature that look like horse but it got wings) prophet Muhammad sat on when he was invited to heaven by God.

shahydbinaliyu:




so your point is that Jesus is not a prophet of God abi

Yes. He was more than a prophet (Jeremiah, Isaiah, Jonah,Ezekiel etc)

Although Moses in Deuteronomy 18:18 prophesied of Him as a Prophet ( Who God will raise up from among the Israelites), Isaiah prophesied of Him Isaiah 9:6,7 Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God and also as the Branch Isaiah 11:1,2 etc He was more than just another prophet. See this discourse in Matthew 16:13-17," Whom do men say that I the Son of Man am? and they said that . . . Jeremiah or one of the prophets...but Whom say you that I Am?, Peter...said, Thou Art the Christ the Son of The Living GOD... and Jesus answered, Blessed art thou . .. for flesh and blood has not revealed it unto Thee, but My Father Which is in Heaven." meaning this was not Peter' opinion but a revelation from the Father to Peter.

Scholar8200:
Yes. He was more than a prophet (Jeremiah, Isaiah, Jonah,Ezekiel etc)

Although Moses in Deuteronomy 18:18 prophesied of Him as a Prophet ( Who God will raise up from among the Israelites), Isaiah prophesied of Him Isaiah 9:6,7 Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God and also as the Branch Isaiah 11:1,2 etc He was more than just another prophet. See this discourse in Matthew 16:13-17," Whom do men say that I the Son of Man am? and they said that . . . Jeremiah or one of the prophets...but Whom say you that I Am?, Peter...said, Thou Art the Christ the Son of The Living GOD... and Jesus answered, Blessed art thou . .. for flesh and blood has not revealed it unto Thee, but My Father Which is in Heaven." meaning this was not Peter' opinion but a revelation from the Father to Peter.

despite Jesus telling us In Bible that he's a Prophet.. yet you don't believe in him... if Jesus isn't a Prophet, what is he according to Jesus himself.. quote with Bible

shahydbinaliyu:



despite Jesus telling us In Bible that he's a Prophet.. yet you don't believe in him... if Jesus isn't a Prophet, what is he according to Jesus himself.. quote with Bible

He is the Christ, The Son of God John 11:4,"... that the Son of God might be glorified thereby" Luke 24:44,46,"...that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning Me....thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead..."
John 17 records a remarkable prayer of Jesus' before His death and resurrection. Do patiently read through:
17 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.

8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.


Now, no prophet would or has prayed with similar words. None would say these in prayer to God if they were not true! Moses called Him a Prophet in the sense that the Spirit will be upon Him just like He was on Moses (see Numbers 11:25), though Jesus' was superior- without measure (see John 3:34), and that by the inspiration of the Spirit He will speak the very Mind of God.

Scholar8200:
He is the Christ, The Son of God John 11:4,"... that the Son of God might be glorified thereby" Luke 24:44,46,"...that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning Me....thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead..."
John 17 records a remarkable prayer of Jesus' before His death and resurrection. Do patiently read through:
17 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.

7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.

8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.

14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.


Now, no prophet would or has prayed with similar words. None would say these in prayer to God if they were not true! Moses called Him a Prophet in the sense that the Spirit will be upon Him just like He was on Moses (see Numbers 11:25), though Jesus' was superior- without measure (see John 3:34), and that by the inspiration of the Spirit He will speak the very Mind of God.

if you saying Jesus is son of God, he's not the only son of God In Bible... he's not even the only begotten son of God In Bible... satisfied?

Scholar8200:
Yes. He was more than a prophet (Jeremiah, Isaiah, Jonah,Ezekiel etc)

Although Moses in Deuteronomy 18:18 prophesied of Him as a Prophet ( Who God will raise up from among the Israelites), Isaiah prophesied of Him Isaiah 9:6,7 Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God and also as the Branch Isaiah 11:1,2 etc He was more than just another prophet. See this discourse in Matthew 16:13-17," Whom do men say that I the Son of Man am? and they said that . . . Jeremiah or one of the prophets...but Whom say you that I Am?, Peter...said, Thou Art the Christ the Son of The Living GOD... and Jesus answered, Blessed art thou . .. for flesh and blood has not revealed it unto Thee, but My Father Which is in Heaven." meaning this was not Peter' opinion but a revelation from the Father to Peter.

if he's more than a prophet, then what is he... did Jesus himself said he's more than a prophet?

The "ones" who do these parables of "mine" will see the "father" "understand or standunder" with "them" for "they" did not "put" "ear" to "hear" these "parables" of "mine" , oh a "men" of "little faith"