The Age of Miracles
QUESTION: -- Most of the older members
of the church tell me that the age of
miracles has ended. But I can't find anyone
who can give me the passage of Scripture
that teaches that. Can you provide me with
the Scriptures?
ANSWER: -- In order to answer this, we
must first define "miracle" and then
determine the purpose of the miracles. Many
people are willing to call anything they
cannot explain a miracle: the birth of a
baby, a close escape from an automobile
accident, etc. But a miracle is not just an
unusual incident; it is a "supernatural"
event. An event that not only does not act in
accord with natural law, but even
contradictsthe laws of nature. Jesus healed
the sick -- completely and instantaneously
-- contrary to the laws of medicine and
nature. As He told the disciples of John,
"Go and tell John the things which ye hear
and see: the blind receive their sight, and
the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and
the deaf hear, and the dead are raised up,
and the poor have good tidings preached to
them" (Matthew 1:4,5). Miraculous powers
were also given to the apostles. Peter
healed a lame man (Acts 3:1-6), a paralytic
(Acts 9:32-35), and raised the dead (Acts
5:12-16), and Peter was miraculously
released from prison (Acts 12:1-11).
The apostle Paul writes of the "gifts of the
Holy Spirit" (I Corinthians 12:7-11): "But
to each one is given the manifestation of the
Spirit to profit withal. For to one is given
through the Spirit the word of wisdom; and
to another the word of knowledge, according
to the same Spirit: to another faith, in the
same Spirit; and to another gifts of
healings, in the one Spirit; and to another
workings of miracles; and to another
prophecy; and to another discernings of
spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues;
an to another the interpretation of tongues;
but all these worketh the one and the same
Spirit, dividing to such one severally even as
He will." Let us notice these nine gifts, and
what they were.
The nine gifts named were: "Wisdom,
Knowledge, Faith, Healing, Miracles,
Prophecy, Discerning of spirits, Tongues,
Interpretation of tongues." These were all
"gifts." That is, they were not acquired
through natural means, but given directly by
the Holy Spirit. With us, we acquire wisdom
by experience and observation, knowledge by
study, faith by hearing the Word of God
(Roman 10:17), etc. But the apostles, and
other inspired people of the early church,
had no New Testament Scriptures to turn to
for guidance, so they had to have guidance
from God in some other way. That way was
by the direct inspiration by the Holy Spirit,
those gifts from the spirit are listed above.
There are numerous examples in the Bible of
miraculous healings, miracles of various
kinds and prophecy (speaking from God).
This was all made possible by the gifts of
the Holy Spirit. The gift of prophecy
enabled one to "speak from God" -- as the
apostles did on Pentecost, they "Spoke as
the Spirit gave them utterance" (Acts 2:4).
And when the apostles went "into all the
world and preached the gospel" (Mark
16:15), "They went forth, and preached
everywhere, the Lord working with them,
and confirming the word by the signs that
followed" (Mark 16:20). That clearly shows
the purpose of thsoe miraculous gifts: to
deliver the Word of God and confirm It by
signs (miracles). This is stated also in
(Hebrews 2:4), "God also bearing witness
with them, both by signs and wonders, and
by manifold powers, and by gifts of the
Holy Spirit, according to His own Will." And
it is said of the miracles of Jesus: "Thse are
written that ye might believe that Jesus is
the Christ, the Son of God, and that,
believing, ye might have life in His
name" (John 20:31).
God tells us clearly that these "gifts of the
Holy Spirit" were to cease. In (I Corinthians
12), the apostle Paul lists those gifts
(above). Then in the next chapter, he wrote:
"Love never faileth: but whether there by
prophecies, they shall be done away;
whether there be tongues, they shall cease;
whether there be knowledge, it shall be
done away. For we know in part, and we
prophesy in part; but when that which is
perfect is come, that whcih is in part shall
be done away. When I was a child, I spoke
as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a
child: now that I am become a man, I hae
put away childish things. For now we see in
a mirror, darkly but then face to face; now
I know in part; but then shall I know fully
even as also I was fully known" (I
Corinthians 13:8-12).
Notice that each gift was a "part". But
when "the perfect" was come, the parts
were to cease. The expression "the perfect"
is from the Greek "to telion" which literally
means: "complete, full-grown, fully
developed." So, when the revelation of
God's Word was completed, and confirmed,
then the "parts" were done away. Note that
Paul says, "For now we see in a mirror,
darkly; but then face to face; now I know in
part; but then shall I know fully even also
I was fully known" (I Corinthians 13:12).
This is explained by James, "But be ye
doers of the Word, and not hearers only,
deluding your own selves. For if any one is
a hearer of the Word and not a doer, he is
like unto a man beholding his natural face
in a mirror; for he beholdeth himself, and
goeth away, and straightway forgetteth
what manner of man he was. But he that
looketh into the perfect law, the law of
liberty, and so continueth, being not a
hearer that forgetteth but a doer that
worketh, this man shall be blessed in his
doing" (James 1:22-25).
Some contend that these "gifts of the
Spirit" were to continue until Christ comes,
and we then see Him and the Father "face
to face." But look at the passage again:
"Now we see in a mirror, darkly, but then
face to face" (I Corinthians 13:12). No one
looks into a mirror to see God, or anyone
else. We look into a mirror to see ourselves.
To shave, to put on makeup, etc., we need
to see "face to face." That is the purpose of
the mirror. And the Word of God is "the
perfect law of liberty" (James 1:25), a
spiritual mirror, into which we look to see
our spiritual condition as God reveals it in
His Word. That is what Paul says in I
Corinthians 13.
Because we have the revealed and written
Word of God, confirmed (proved) by the
miracles which the apostles did, we no
longer need those "parts" which brought it
into existence. So they have ceased, been
done away. And that includes all the
miracles -- healing, raising the dead, etc.
So, yes, the age and purpose of miracles
have ended. Because we have the completed
Word of God confirmed by these miracles and
therefore there is no more need for such
miracles.

upros:

And when the apostles went "into all the
world and preached the gospel" (Mark
16:15), "They went forth, and preached
everywhere, the Lord working with them,
and confirming the word by the signs that
followed" (Mark 16:20). That clearly shows
the purpose of thsoe miraculous gifts: to
deliver the Word of God and confirm It by
signs (miracles). This is stated also in
(Hebrews 2:4), "God also bearing witness
with them, both by signs and wonders, and
by manifold powers, and by gifts of the
Holy Spirit, according to His own Will." And
it is said of the miracles of Jesus: "Thse are
written that ye might believe that Jesus is
the Christ, the Son of God, and that,
believing, ye might have life in His
name" (John 20:31).
God tells us clearly that these "gifts of the
Holy Spirit" were to cease. In (I Corinthians
12), the apostle Paul lists those gifts
(above). Then in the next chapter, he wrote:
"Love never faileth: but whether there by
prophecies, they shall be done away;
whether there be tongues, they shall cease;
whether there be knowledge, it shall be
done away. For we know in part, and we
prophesy in part; but when that which is
perfect is come, that whcih is in part shall
be done away. When I was a child, I spoke
as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a
child: now that I am become a man, I hae
put away childish things. For now we see in
a mirror, darkly but then face to face; now
I know in part; but then shall I know fully
even as also I was fully known" (I
Corinthians 13:8-12).
Notice that each gift was a "part". But
when "the perfect" was come, the parts
were to cease. The expression "the perfect"
is from the Greek "to telion" which literally
means: "complete, full-grown, fully
developed." So, when the revelation of
God's Word was completed, and confirmed,
then the "parts" were done away. Note that
Paul says, "For now we see in a mirror,
darkly; but then face to face; now I know in
part; but then shall I know fully even also
I was fully known" (I Corinthians 13:12).
This is explained by James, "But be ye
doers of the Word, and not hearers only,
deluding your own selves. For if any one is
a hearer of the Word and not a doer, he is
like unto a man beholding his natural face
in a mirror; for he beholdeth himself, and
goeth away, and straightway forgetteth
what manner of man he was. But he that
looketh into the perfect law, the law of
liberty, and so continueth, being not a
hearer that forgetteth but a doer that
worketh, this man shall be blessed in his
doing" (James 1:22-25).
Some contend that these "gifts of the
Spirit" were to continue until Christ comes,
and we then see Him and the Father "face
to face." But look at the passage again:
"Now we see in a mirror, darkly, but then
face to face" (I Corinthians 13:12). No one
looks into a mirror to see God, or anyone
else. We look into a mirror to see ourselves.
To shave, to put on makeup, etc., we need
to see "face to face." That is the purpose of
the mirror. And the Word of God is "the
perfect law of liberty" (James 1:25), a
spiritual mirror, into which we look to see
our spiritual condition as God reveals it in
His Word. That is what Paul says in I
Corinthians 13.
Because we have the revealed and written
Word of God, confirmed (proved) by the
miracles which the apostles did, we no
longer need those "parts" which brought it
into existence. So they have ceased, been
done away. And that includes all the
miracles -- healing, raising the dead, etc.
So, yes, the age and purpose of miracles
have ended. Because we have the completed
Word of God confirmed by these miracles and
therefore there is no more need for such
miracles.

You are greatly contradicting yourself with the quotes you are making, let's first off all start from somewhere first.

Are we in the last days?

If yes, When did the bible say Gods spirit would be poured on all flesh in Acts 2:17?

What was the bible talking about when it said Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever? Heb 13:8

In mark 16:15 which you quoted it said:

"This signs shall follow them that believe..." (Past continous tense)

NOT believ ed (perfect past tense) as you implied in the op.

Can you now deduce that present belivers can also walk in power like the apostles?

Its actually age of magics , modern magics by pastorpreneurs are termed "miracle" by their brainwashed followers.

paulGrundy:


You are greatly contradicting yourself with the quotes you are making, let's first off all start from somewhere first.

Are we in the last days?

If yes, When did the bible say Gods spirit would be poured on all flesh in Acts 2:17?

What was the bible talking about when it said Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever? Heb 13:8

In mark 16:15 which you quoted it said:

"This signs shall follow them that [b]believe..." (Past continous tense) [/b]

NOT believ ed (perfect past tense) as you implied in the op.

Can you now deduce that present belivers can also walk in power like the apostles?

'This sign shall follow them that believe, they shall drink poison and carry serpents' , why are you people not doing this?

MizJanet:


'This sign shall follow them that believe, they shall drink poison and carry serpents' , why are you people not doing this?

Lemme correct an error in your reasoning, picking up serpents and drinking poison is not delibrate, you don't go about looking for poison to drink same way you don't go about harming people and expecting to heal them.

Apostle Paul picked up a viper and it didn't harm him. And just because you haven't heard about it, doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Charles Parham the father of pentecostalism was poisoned at a revival meeting by his enemies. Him and his team were in great pain, they sought the face of the lord, the pain disappeared. A forensic examination of the water they drank from, showed that the cup contained poison, infact the poison in his drink alone, was enough to kill 5 men at once. The national dailes in america rang this miracle in their headline news.

Now that's what I call a sign!

paulGrundy:


Lemme correct an error in your reasoning, picking up serpents and drinking poison is not delibrate, you don't go about looking for poison to drink same way you don't go about harming people and expecting to heal them.

But speakin in tongues which is uphold tightly by the church is deliberate and encouraged right ?

But the other signs like handlin snakes and drinking poison is not deliberate and encouraged ?

You are clueless.

Apostle Paul picked up a viper and it didn't harm him. And just because you haven't heard about it, doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Charles Parham the father of pentecostalism was poisoned at a revival meeting by his enemies. Him and his team were in great pain, they sought the face of the lord, the pain disappeared. A forensic examination of the water they drank from, showed that the cup contained poison, infact the poison in his drink alone, was enough to kill 5 men at once. The national dailes in america rang this miracle in their headline news.

Now that's what I call a sign!

Is this your sign ,

Do u even know that a typical muslim will tell you that Mohammed also survives poison when a jewish woman poisoned him , do u also bliv this ?

The xample u gave reveal that other millions of christians that hav died of poison dont have enough faith and cant be called belivers (mark 16:15) . Thats very INTERESTING .

MizJanet:


But speakin in tongues which is uphold tightly by the church is deliberate and encouraged right ?

It seems to me that you are not a christain. The bible says in Acts 2:4 that the SPIRIT gives the utterances (languages, tongues) that a beliver speaks. A spirit filled beliver does not think of gibberish to say, he looses his tongue and the spirit bids him speech. If you don't understand how things are done, I would rather you ask questions for clarification, than making ignorant insinuations.

But the other signs like handlin snakes and drinking poison is not deliberate and encouraged ?

You are clueless

I take an exception to insults! If you want any other reply from me, I demand you delete the bolded from your post! Right now!

I have been polite in my replies to you, I expect you to do the same.

Is this your sign ,

Do u even know that a typical muslim will tell you that Mohammed also survives poison when a jewish woman poisoned him , do u also bliv this ?

The xample u gave reveal that other millions of christians that hav died of poison dont have enough faith and cant be called belivers (mark 16:15) . Thats very INTERESTING .

Am tempted to make some conclusions from your post, this now brings me back to the initail question.

Are you a christain?


And no I don't believe everything unless its based on facts. Charles parhams account I gave to you was carried by michigan dailies during the early 1900's.
I came across it in the book- Gods Generals by Roberts Liardon.

nice plagiarism, may you find joy in the following hallowed verses ; EX 17:13 With the Lord's approval, Joshua mows down Amalek and his people. EX 21:20-21 With the Lord's approval, a slave may be beaten to death with no punishment for the perpetrator as long as the slave doesn't die too quickly. EX 32:27 "Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbor. EX 32:27-29 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay 3000 men. LE 26:7-8 The Lord promises the Israelites that, if they are obedient, their enemies will "fall before your sword." LE 26:22 "I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children." LE 26:29 , DT 28:53 , JE 19:9 , EZ 5:8-10 As a punishment, the Lord will cause people to eat the flesh of their own sons and daughters and fathers and friends. LE 27:29 Human sacrifice is condoned. (Note: An example is given in JG 11:30-39 ) NU 11:33 The Lord smites the people with a great plague. NU 12:1-10 God makes Miriam a leper for seven days because she and Aaron had spoken against Moses. NU 15:32-36 A Sabbath breaker (who had gathered sticks for a fire) is stoned to death at the Lord's command. NU 16:27-33 The Lord causes the earth to open and swallow up the men and their households (including wives and children) because the men had been rebellious. NU 16:35 A fire from the Lord consumes 250 men. NU 16:49 A plague from the Lord kills 14,700 people. NU 21:3 The Israelites utterly destroy the Canaanites. NU 21:6 Fiery serpents, sent by the Lord, kill many Israelites. NU 21:35 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites slay Og "... and his sons and all his people, until there was not one survivor left ...." NU 25:4 (KJV) "And the Lord said unto Moses, take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun ...." NU 25:8 "He went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly." NU 25:9 24,000 people die in a plague from the Lord. NU 31:9 The Israelites capture Midianite women and children. NU 31:17-18 Moses, following the Lord's command, orders the Israelites to kill all the Midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (Note: How would it be determined which women had known men? One can only speculate.) NU 31:31-40 32,000 virgins are taken by the Israelites as booty. Thirty-two are set aside (to be sacrificed?) as a tribute for the Lord. DT 2:33-34 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Sihon. DT 3:6 The Israelites utterly destroy the men, women, and children of Og. DT 7:2 The Lord commands the Israelites to "utterly destroy" and show "no mercy" to those whom he gives them for defeat. DT 20:13-14 "When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves." DT 20:16 "In the cities of the nations the Lord is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes." DT 21:10-13 With the Lord's approval, the Israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives. If, after sexual relations, the husband has "no delight" in his wife, he can simply let her go. DT 28:53 "You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you." JS 1:1-9 , 18 Joshua receives the Lord's blessing for all the bloody endeavors to follow. JS 6:21-27 With the Lord's approval, Joshua destroys the city of Jericho--men, women, and children--with the edge of the sword. JS 7:19-26 Achan, his children and his cattle are stoned to death because Achan had taken a taboo thing. JS 8:22-25 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly smites the people of Ai, killing 12,000 men and women, so that there were none who escaped. JS 10:10-27 With the help of the Lord, Joshua utterly destroys the Gibeonites. JS 10:28 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Makkedah. JS 10:30 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Libnahites. JS 10:32-33 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the people of Lachish. JS 10:34-35 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Eglonites. JS 10:36-37 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Hebronites. JS 10:38-39 With the Lord's approval, Joshua utterly destroys the Debirites. JS 10:40 (A summary statement.) "So Joshua defeated the whole land ...; he left none remaining, but destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded." JS 11:6 The Lord orders horses to be hamstrung. (Exceedingly cruel.) JS 11:8-15 "And the lord gave them into the hand of Israel, ...utterly destroying them; there was none left that breathed ...." JS 11:20 "For it was the Lord's doing to harden their hearts that they should come against Israel in battle, in order that they should be utterly destroyed, and should receive no mercy but be exterminated, as the Lord commanded Moses." JS 11:21-23 Joshua utterly destroys the Anakim. JG 1:4 With the Lord's support, Judah defeats 10,000 Canaanites at Bezek. JG 1:6 With the Lord's approval, Judah pursues Adoni-bezek, catches him, and cuts off his thumbs and big toes. JG 1:8 With the Lord's approval, Judah smites Jerusalem. JG 1:17 With the Lord's approval, Judah and Simeon utterly destroy the Canaanites who inhabited Zephath. JG 3:29 The Israelites kill about 10,000 Moabites. JG 3:31 (A restatement.) Shamgar killed 600 Philistines with an oxgoad. JG 4:21 Jael takes a tent stake and hammers it through the head of Sisera, fastening it to the ground. JG 7:19-25 The Gideons defeat the Midianites, slay their princes, cut off their heads, and bring the heads back to Gideon. JG 8:15-21 The Gideons slaughter the men of Penuel. JG 9:5 Abimalech murders his brothers. JG 9:45 Abimalech and his men kill all the people in the city. JG 9:53-54 "A woman dropped a stone on his head and cracked his skull. Hurriedly he called to his armor-bearer, 'Draw your sword and kill me, so that they can't say a woman killed me.' So his servant ran him through, and he died." JG 11:29-39 Jepthah sacrifices his beloved daughter, his only child, according to a vow he has made with the Lord. JG 14:19 The Spirit of the Lord comes upon a man and causes him to slay thirty men. JG 15:15 Samson slays 1000 men with the jawbone of an ass. JG 16:21 The Philistines gouge out Samson's eyes. JG 16:27-30 Samson, with the help of the Lord, pulls down the pillars of the Philistine house and causes his own death and that of 3000 other men and women. JG 18:27 The Danites slay the quiet and unsuspecting people of Laish. JG 19:22-29 A group of sexual depraved men beat on the door of an old man's house demanding that he turn over to them a male house guest. Instead, the old man offers his virgin daughter and his guest's concubine (or wife): "Behold, here are my virgin daughter and his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish them and do with them what seems good to you; but against this man do not do so vile a thing." The man's concubine is ravished and dies. The man then cuts her body into twelve pieces and sends one piece to each of the twelve tribes of Israel. JG 20:43-48 The Israelites smite 25,000+ "men of valor" from amongst the Benjamites, "men and beasts and all that they found," and set their towns on fire. JG 21:10-12 "... Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and; also the women and little ones.... every male and every woman that has lain with a male you shall utterly destroy." They do so and find four hundred young virgins whom they bring back for their own use. 1SA 4:10 The Philistines slay 30,000 Israelite foot soldiers. 1SA 5:6-9 The Lord afflicts the Philistines with tumors in their "secret parts," presumably for having stolen the Ark. 1SA 6:19 God kills seventy men (or so) for looking into the Ark (at him?). (Note: The early Israelites apparently thought the Ark to be God's abode.) 1SA 7:7-11 Samuel and his men smite the Philistines. 1SA 11:11 With the Lord's blessing, Saul and his men cut down the Ammonites. 1SA 14:31 Jonathan and his men strike down the Philistines. 1SA 14:48 Saul smites the Amalekites. 1SA 15:3 , 7-8 "This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass ....' And Saul ... utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword." 1SA 15:33 "Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the Lord ...." 1SA 18:7 The women sing as they make merry: "Saul has slain his thousands and David his ten thousands." 1SA 27:8-11 "David left neither man nor woman alive ....". (Note: This implies that children and infants were included in the slaughter.) 1SA 30:17 David smites the Amalekites. 2SA 2:23 Abner kills Asahel. 2SA 3:30 Joab and Abishai kill Abner. 2SA 4:7-8 Rechan and Baanah kill Ish-bosheth, behead him, and take his head to David. 2SA 4:12 David has Rechan and Baanah killed, their hands and feet cut off, and their bodies hanged by the pool at Hebron. 2SA 5:25 "And David did as the Lord commanded him, and smote the Philistines ...." 2SA 6:2-23 Because she rebuked him for having exposed himself, Michal (David's wife) was barren throughout her life. 2SA 8:1-18 (A listing of some of David's murderous conquests.) 2SA 8:4 David hamstrung all but a few of the horses. 2SA 8:5 David slew 22,000 Syrians. 2SA 8:6 , 14 "The Lord gave victory to David wherever he went." 2SA 8:13 David slew 18,000 Edomites in the valley of salt and made the rest slaves. 2SA 10:18 David slew 47,000+ Syrians. 2SA 11:14-27 David has Uriah killed so that he can marry Uriah's wife, Bathsheba. 2SA 12:1 , 19 The Lord strikes David's child dead for the sin that David has committed. 2SA 13:1-15 Amnon loves his sister Tamar, rapes her, then hates her. 2SA 13:28-29 Absalom has Amnon murdered. 2SA 18:6 -7 20,000 men are slaughtered at the battle in the forest of Ephraim. 2SA 18:15 Joab's men murder Absalom. 2SA 20:10-12 Joab's men murder Amasa and leave him "... wallowing in his own blood in the highway. And anyone who came by, seeing him, stopped." 2SA 24:15 The Lord sends a pestilence on Israel that kills 70,000 men. 1KI 2:24-25 Solomon has Adonijah murdered. 1KI 2:29-34 Solomon has Joab murdered. 1KI 2:46 Solomon has Shime-i murdered. 1KI 13:15-24 A man is killed by a lion for eating bread and drinking water in a place where the Lord had previously told him not to. This is in spite of the fact that the man had subsequently been lied to by a prophet who told the man that an angel of the Lord said that it would be alright to eat and drink there. 1KI 20:29-30 The Israelites smite 100,000 Syrian soldiers in one day. A wall falls on 27,000 remaining Syrians. 2KI 1:10-12 Fire from heaven comes down and consumes fifty men. 2KI 2:23-24 Forty-two children are mauled and killed, presumably according to the will of God, for having jeered at a man of God. 2KI 5:27 Elisha curses Gehazi and his descendants forever with leprosy. 2KI 6:18-19 The Lord answers Elisha's prayer and strikes the Syrians with blindness. Elisha tricks the blind Syrians and leads them to Samaria. 2KI 6:29 "So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her, 'Give up your son so we may eat him,' but she had hidden him." 2KI 9:24 Jehu tricks and murders Joram. 2KI 9:27 Jehu has Ahaziah killed. 2KI 9:30-37 Jehu has Jezebel killed. Her body is trampled by horses. Dogs eat her flesh so that only her skull, feet, and the palms of her hands remain. 2KI 10:7 Jehu has Ahab's seventy sons beheaded, then sends the heads to their father. 2KI 10:14 Jehu has forty-two of Ahab's kin killed. 2KI 10:17 "And when he came to Samaria, he slew all that remained to Ahab in Samaria, till he had wiped them out, according to the word of the Lord ...." 2KI 10:19-27 Jehu uses trickery to massacre the Baal worshippers. 2KI 11:1 Athaliah destroys all the royal family. 2KI 14:5 , 7 Amaziah kills his servants and then 10,000 Edomites. 2KI 15:3-5 Even though he did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, the Lord smites Azariah with leprosy for not having removed the "high places." 2KI 15:16 Menahem ripped open all the women who were pregnant. 2KI 19:35 An angel of the Lord kills 185,000 men. 1CH 20:3 (KJV) "And he brought out the people that were in it, and cut them with saws, and with harrows of iron, and with axes." 2CH 13:17 500,000 Israelites are slaughtered. 2CH 21:4 Jehoram slays all his brothers. PS 137:9 Happy will be the man who dashes your little ones against the stones. PS 144:1 God is praised as the one who trains hands for war and fingers for battle. IS 13:15 "Everyone who is captured will be thrust through; all who are caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their ... wives will be ravished." IS 13:18 "Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eye shall not spare children." IS 14:21-22 "Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers." IS 49:26 The Lord will cause the oppressors of the Israelite's to eat their own flesh and to become drunk on their own blood as with wine. JE 16:4 "They shall die grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth." LA 4:9-10 "Those slain by the sword are better off than those who die of famine; racked with hunger, they waste away for lack of food. ... pitiful women have cooked their own children, who became their food ..." EZ 6:12-13 The Lord says: "... they will fall by the sword, famine and plague. He that is far away will die of the plague, and he that is near will fall by the sword, and he that survives and is spared will die of famine. So will I spend my wrath upon them. And they will know I am the Lord, when the people lie slain among their idols around their altars, on every high hill and on all the mountaintops, under every spreading tree and every leafy oak ...." EZ 9:4-6 The Lord commands: "... slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women ...." EZ 20:26 In order that he might horrify them, the Lord allowed the Israelites to defile themselves through, amongst other things, the sacrifice of their first-born children. EZ 21:3-4 The Lord says that he will cut off both the righteous and the wicked that his sword shall go against all flesh. EZ 23:25 , 47 God is going to slay the sons and daughters of those who were whores. EZ 23:34 "You shall ... pluck out your hair, and tear your breasts." HO 13:16 "They shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." MI 3:2-3 "... who pluck off their skin ..., and their flesh from off their bones; Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron." MT 3:12 , 8:12 , 10:21 , 13:30 , 42, 22:13 , 24:51 , 25:30 , LK 13:28 , JN 5:24 Some will spend eternity burning in Hell. There will be weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth. MT 10:21 "... the brother shall deliver up his brother to death, and the father his child, ... children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death." MT 10:35-36 "For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law a man's enemies will be the members of his own family." MT 11:21-24 Jesus curses [the inhabitants of] three cities who were not sufficiently impressed with his great works. AC 13:11 Paul purposefully blinds a man

paulGrundy:


It seems to me that you are not a christain. The bible says in Acts 2:4 that the SPIRIT gives the utterances (languages, tongues) that a beliver speaks. A spirit filled beliver does not think of [size=25]gibberish [/size] to say, he looses his tongue and the spirit bids him speech . If you don't understand how things are done, I would rather you ask questions for clarification, than making ignorant insinuations.

Lolssss , am happy u also call it "gibberish" , meanwhile you are not speakin wit an 8 year old girl . Do u thinkk we dont see your spirit filled blivers , practising beforehand the gibberish they will utter from the pulpit ?

And no I don't believe everything unless its based on facts. Charles parhams account I gave to you was carried by michigan dailies during the early 1900's.
I came across it in the book- Gods Generals by Roberts Liardon.

Really ! And did that book u read tell u that Charles parhams doesnt belive in medicine but practice faith healin alone, thats why he didnt seek d help of physicians to the heart disease that later killed him. do u follow his footsteps or u part ways with him on this ? mayb you are those confuse type of religious beings that just quote people when it suits them. Lol

MizJanet:



Lolssss , am happy u also call it "gibberish" , meanwhile you are not speakin wit an 8 year old girl . Do u thinkk we dont see your spirit filled blivers , practising beforehand the gibberish they will utter from the pulpit ?

I called it gibberish because it is not comprehensive to the human man, its a spiritual codex. By Gods grace, am filled with the spirit and I speak in tongues I do not practise the tongue I speak. Anyone who practices tongues is a fake.

Really ! And did that book u read tell u that Charles parhams doesnt belive in medicine but practice faith healin alone, thats why he didnt seek d help of physicians to the heart disease that later killed him. do u follow his footsteps or u part ways with him on this ? mayb you are those confuse type of religious beings that just quote people when it suits them. Lol

Don't derail the topic, its not if parham died of heart attack or not. It is if, the pentecostal power is still as much potent today as it was in the days of apostle paul.

You sound very bitter. Is there something of a personal nature you might want to tell me?

paulGrundy:


I called it gibberish because it is not comprehensive to the human man, its a spiritual codex. By Gods grace, am filled with the spirit and I speak in tongues I do not practise the tongue I speak. Anyone who practices tongues is a fake.

What is the meaning of gibberish?


why dont you also practice serpent handling and poison drinking , y'all dont trust ur god . If you trust him u will follow d advice and confidently belive that " if u drank anything posionous , it wont harm you' , hav u tried dat stuff ? Are u scared ? U dont trust god ? U dont want to die ? I thought u ar goin to heaven , so why fear ?

MizJanet:


What is the meaning of gibberish?

Refer back to my initail post I explained it there.

why dont you also practice serpent handling and poison drinking , y'all dont trust ur god . If you trust him u will follow d advice and confidently belive that " if u drank anything posionous , it wont harm you' , hav u tried dat stuff ? Are u scared ? U dont trust god ? U dont want to die ? I thought u ar goin to heaven , so why fear ?

It seems to me that you don't understand my posts. I said you don't go about picking up snakes to test God, or inflict pain on someone and expect to heal the person, or delibrately drink poison. These gifts: tongues, miracles, healing are PRIVILEDGE's not ONE's RIGHT. The spirit gives them as he wills, that's why mark 16:15. Called them a SIGN. They are meant to confirm evangelistic truth, not for personal use.

paulGrundy:


Refer back to my initail post I explained it there.

Just whyning u , gibberish means not intelligent , Total Nonsense .

It seems to me that you don't understand my posts. I said you don't go about picking up snakes to test God, or inflict pain on someone and expect to heal the person, or delibrately drink poison. These gifts: tongues, miracles, healing are PRIVILEDGE's not ONE's RIGHT. The spirit gives them as he wills, that's why mark 16:15. Called them a SIGN. They are meant to confirm evangelistic truth, not for personal use.

Churchman, to confirm which evangelical truth exactly ? Do u know how many of ur fellows who are beliving christians that have died of posion and snake bites even though its not deliberate ? your religion is a scam

MizJanet:


Just whyning u , gibberish means not intelligent , Total Nonsense

Yes I used gibberish because there are two nature of tongues: comprehensible tongues, and fluent nonsense, which is the common one, that's why I called it gibberish.

Churchman, to confirm which evangelical truth exactly ?

@bolded is that a label or something ??

The truth is that Jesus died for sinful men, and ressurected on the third day, for our redemption, justification, healing and freedom. Remember heb 13:8

"Jesus the same yesterday, today and [size=17pt]forever[/size]"

Do u know how many of ur fellows who are beliving christians that have died of posion and snake bites even though its not deliberate ? your religion is a scam

Do you also know how many believing christains who have taken up poison, and they didn't die. Bitten by snakes, but it couldn't harm them. Healed by faith through the laying on of hands. Spoke in tongues.

My religion is not a scam, my religion is the light.

paulGrundy:


You are greatly contradicting yourself with the quotes you are making, let's first off all start from somewhere first.

Are we in the last days?

If yes, When did the bible say Gods spirit would be poured on all flesh in Acts 2:17?

What was the bible talking about when it said Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever? Heb 13:8

In mark 16:15 which you quoted it said:

"This signs shall follow them that believe..." (Past continous tense)

NOT believ ed (perfect past tense) as you implied in the op.

Can you now deduce that present belivers can also walk in power like the apostles?

u re nt getting it. ..read again with the cool mindset.

paulGrundy:


Yes I used gibberish because there are two nature of tongues: comprehensible tongues, and fluent nonsense, which is the common one, that's why I called it gibberish.

Dumb ! Hope you know the meaning of non-sense ? NO SENSE , uv just described yourself

@bolded is that a label or something ??

The truth is that Jesus died for sinful men, and ressurected on the third day, for our redemption, justification, healing and freedom. Remember heb 13:8

Scam, Jesus didnt die for you . ONLY the flesh he put on died . Start using your brain

Do you also know how many believing christains who have taken up poison, and they didn't die. Bitten by snakes, but it couldn't harm them. Healed by faith through the laying on of hands. Spoke in tongues.

My religion is not a scam, my religion is the light.

Same shit that a muslim, a hindu , a buddhist , shinto worshipper and others will say .