dmcdad:

Let me ask you this and know if you really do know football. Who was the master, king and Lord of step-overs? Mention the person's name, and tell me if he is tall or short.

Hint: He is a Brazilian.

if not robinho who else.

dmcdad:

You are the most confused person on earth! Sorry to say. Are we talking about team trophies (Barca) or we still talk about Neymar?

Depends on how you measure a player's success.Moreover 13 goals with the way neymar was hyped last season was poor.Especially with nothing reasonable to show for it.

Krasid:
Has messi attempted a rabona, a 40 yarder, a bicycle kick, a backheel goal 12 yard out, or even a common step-over?

Jeez!
is today your own stupidity day?

Krasid:
Don't deviate from the topic please.No one is talking about great players.We are talking about what one player can do that the other can't.Messi does not possess the shot power that Nani has to score a 40 yard, likewise Nani the technique to score a finesse.Messi does not possess the skill to attempt a touchline rabona, likewise Quaresma the balance to dribble 5 players and score.

Your inability to decipher my line of argument, is sufficient reason for me not to sustain this dialogue with you.

taiocol:
if not robinho who else.

logica:
When Hazard comes to La Liga, then you can compare to Neymar. For now, he's king in a league where the likes of Bale and even Penaldo were the best dribblers.

wicked!!

Krasid:
Which of these sounds more painful to the ear, Saying Neymar is better than Ronaldo or saying Hazard might be better than Neymar.

I know I never said Neymar is better than Ronaldo..
What I did was bring up 2015 statistics and say that Neymar and Ronaldo are on the same level..If I said otherwise, bring up the post!!

dmcdad:

Let me ask you this and know if you really do know football. Who was the master, king and Lord of step-overs? Mention the person's name, and tell me if he is tall or short.

Hint: He is a Brazilian.

He? they are always Brazilians or South Americans!! Step overs are not a European thing!!
Denilson,Robinho,Da Lima,Ronaldinho,etc!!

bykebyke:



It's wa for you o..


So we bought a dozen of under age players from black market just to get banned?

There is no European or Spanish football against it bro..
Even the FIFA rule that they brought up wasn't clear on the issue!!

dmcdad:

Let me ask you this and know if you really do know football. Who was the master, king and Lord of step-overs? Mention the person's name, and tell me if he is tall or short.

Hint: He is a Brazilian.

Denilson? Of course there are a few exceptions.Although Denilson was not entirely a midget(5ft 10in) compared to Messi(5ft 6in)

bykebyke:



It's wa for you o..


So we bought a dozen of under age players from black market just to get banned?

There is no European or Spanish football against it bro..
Even the FIFA rule that they brought up wasn't clear on the issue!!

philfearon:

I know I never said Neymar is better than Ronaldo..
What I did was bring up 2015 statistics and say that Neymar and Ronaldo are on the same level..If I said otherwise, bring up the post!!

No, but you found somebody who said Neymar was better than CR funny and also found it disappointing that i said Hazard might be better than Neymar.Moreover both don't have the same number of assists and are not in the same level.

Krasid:
Tell me 5 other matches apart from the getafe one where messi beat 5+ defenders to score and i would give you 6 where Ronaldo scored from over 30yrds then we would decide which is the fluke.Saying Ronaldo's 40 yarders are flukes is like saying Messi's dribbling of 5 players to score is a fluke.The players must possess the skill or power then luck to pull such moves.I have watched messi dribble 2/3 then the ball is intercepted.

its funny that you,A real Madrid Fan opened your teeth and asked this silly question..
Do you remember 2011 UCL UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE semifinals?
Venue:Santiago Bernabeu
Teams: Real Madrid v Fc Barcelona
..Ring a bell?

Krasid:
No, but you found somebody who said Neymar was better than CR funny and also found it disappointing that i said Hazard might be better than Neymar.Moreover both don't have the same number of assists and are not in the same level.

is it not funny?of course it is..

Mcleo007:



Your inability to decipher my line of argument, is sufficient reason for me not to sustain this dialogue with you.

No, you are the one that failed to understand my line of argument.

philfearon:

is it not funny?of course it is..

Then it is funny that despite scoring 32 goals this season, he has a laughable 6 assists.Less than James Rodriguez(who was injured for a month), Bale(who is having a poor season), not forgetting Eden hazard.

philfearon:

There is no European or Spanish football against it bro..
Even the FIFA rule that they brought up wasn't clear on the issue!!

No rule against it yet we were banned from two transfer windows?


http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2221035/barcelona-understanding-cas-ruling-and-the-violations-of-article-19-jake-cohen

philfearon:

its funny that you,A real Madrid Fan opened your teeth and asked this silly question..
Do you remember 2011 UCL UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE semifinals?
Venue:Santiago Bernabeu
Teams: Real Madrid v Fc Barcelona
..Ring a bell?

Great.1 down, 4 more to go.Bottom line is not all of Messi's attempt to dribble 4\5 players were successful.Some were intercepted after beating a couple of players, some were saved by the GK.So saying CR's long rangers are flukes is saying the same for Messi's.

Krasid:
Then it is funny that despite scoring 32 goals this season, he has a laughable 6 assists.Less than James Rodriguez(who was injured for a month), Bale(who is having a poor season), not forgetting Eden hazard.

Why should Neymar bother much about assists when he has assist masters in Messi,Suarez,Xavi,Rakitic,Iniesta,Alves,all in his team?
That he still managed 6 assists is still good...It doesn't mean that he won't improve on it,does it?

philfearon:

Jeez!
is today your own stupidity day?

Prove me wrong by showing me a messi step over or rabona clip.

Krasid:
Tell me 5 other matches apart from the getafe one where messi beat 5+ defenders to score and i would give you 6 where Ronaldo scored from over 30yrds then we would decide which is the fluke.Saying Ronaldo's 40 yarders are flukes is like saying Messi's dribbling of 5 players to score is a fluke.The players must possess the skill or power then luck to pull such moves.I have watched messi dribble 2/3 then the ball is intercepted.

please always read my comments carefully so you don't misquote me, or perhaps I need to make my responses shorter. I never said Ronaldo 's long ranges AZ flukes, I only said 50% of long range goals are flukes without specifying Ronaldo but definitely a good number of his are flukes. Season after season Ronaldo takes the highest number of shots on goal with a very low conversion rate. But naturally people only remember the ones he scores. Sometimes he takes 16 shots and scores 1. Why? Most long range efforts require luck somewhere along the way either from the fault of the wind, the goalie or the defenders. And o yes Messi has scored from beating 3,4,5 defenders. It must not be 5. Sometimes he ends up missing, sometimes an assist, sometimes he scores. Many many times, I don't have the time to begin listing them. Phil just refreshed you on what he did to Alonso, Ramos, Marcelo, Casillas, and I think pepe in one swoop. He used a stone to kill 5 birds.

Krasid:
Then it is funny that despite scoring 32 goals this season, he has a laughable 6 assists.Less than James Rodriguez(who was injured for a month), Bale(who is having a poor season), not forgetting Eden hazard.

Nolito of Celia Vigo has 11assists...going by your logic,it's safe to say he is better than Neymar?

Krasid:
Prove me wrong by showing me a messi step over or rabona clip.

What shall it profit a man if he does 10step overs,yet can't pass his marker?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78dYqBOo9TA

philfearon:

Why should Neymar bother much about assists when he has assist masters in Messi,Suarez,Xavi,Rakitic,Iniesta,Alves,all in his team?
That he still managed 6 assists is still good...It doesn't mean that he won't improve on it,does it?

I see you mentioned all barca attacking line-up except Neymar.Why can't Neymar be an assist master like the rest of his teammates.

Krasid:
Great.1 down, 4 more to go.Bottom line is not all of Messi's attempt to dribble 4\5 players were successful.Some were intercepted after beating a couple of players, some were saved by the GK.So saying CR's long rangers are flukes is saying the same for Messi's.

All can never be successful!!

ddippset:
please always read my comments carefully so you don't misquote me, or perhaps I need to make my responses shorter. I never said Ronaldo 's long ranges AZ flukes, I only said 50%

Doesn't change a thing.It also applies to Messi dribbling 3/4 players to score.

Krasid:
I see you mentioned all barca attacking line-up except Neymar.Why can't Neymar be an assist master like the rest of his teammates.

Remember that last season he was third in the ranking behind only Messi and Fabregas!!

Krasid:
Prove me wrong by showing me a messi step over or rabona clip.

You hardly see left footed Players doing step overs bro....
it is not their thing!!

bykebyke:

Nolito of Celia Vigo has 11assists...going by your logic,it's safe to say he is better than Neymar?

In terms of assisting his teammates, YES.Moreover i didn't say those players are better, just pointing out how mediocre he has been in terms of settin up teammates.

philfearon:

Remember that last season he was third in the ranking behind only Messi and Fabregas!!

No wonder barca ended up trophyless.

bykebyke:

No rule against it yet we were banned from two transfer windows?


http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2221035/barcelona-understanding-cas-ruling-and-the-violations-of-article-19-jake-cohen

I can't force you to understand something you don't want to..
Barcelona were banned from signing players right? Yes!
Yet same FIFA told you that barca can still sign players,but they can't register the person while the ban lasts...Is that what a real banning should be?
What of the players involved? did FIFA cancel the contract? are they not still in our youth set up(even though not playing)..
Will the ban stop Xavi or Alves or Pedro from leaving the club if they want to?

Krasid:
No wonder barca ended up trophyless.

Thank you...
And now who are the outsiders?